The Dark Side of Visual kei You haven't heard yet
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I heard about some of these facts. For the smoking and plastic surgery part, I'm ok with it. And I've heard of Tanuki too. But it disturbs a lot when you guys said most of them are hosts amd they sleep around with others for money.
I used to be on tumblr a lot and someone was translating posts from tanuki. I checked and they seem to have deleted their account/posts so i cant give a link, but theres a lot of disturbing things either of the bandmen or the fans posting. Things were also quite explicit. Also i already know the terms said in the vid because of me lurking in tumblr.
A lot of tanuki rumors I've heard do mention that a lot of guys in vk bands are hosts or have a sugar mommy ("mitsu"). I mean indie bands don't make any profits, so they either have part-time jobs or do shady stuff like prostitution.
@@lalakuma9 what are hosts.?????
@@chn3lll253 rental boyfriends/girl friends. You go to a “host club” and pay money and they will spend time with you. It’s not supposed to be sexual but things can escalate maybe if money is involved.
5:13 even if they're in their 20's or in college, sleeping with underage girls is still sick and gross and can be very traumatic for underage girls growing up. people in their 40's doing that definitely need to be arrested too.
my brother in christ, japan has A HUGE problem w pedophelia
idk, most of girls when i studying in high school prefer older guys when they was in their 16-17 and their boyfriends was around 20, they just dont find boys of same age or younger attractive at all (maybe couse of psychological dady issues or their own high expectations and high standarts for themselfs and others) and it is normal if it is consentual/mutual. Such thing happen a lot even today. and as being said girls deveped faster than guys and it is easier for them to find sex partner (and they prefer more mature figure due to bio-evolution reasons) - we cant go against nature (i am talking about 16-20 yolds not about some 20+ phedophiles)
in another way - you gona not just take freedom of 20-yo but freedom of 16-17-yo that wanted sex and did not want to have sex with guys of same age - it is sexual deprevation. When i was in my 17 i used to reject younger girls couse i was near my 18 and if i started relationships with girl in her 16 or 15 im not gona be able to have lewd staf with her and she could use it against me, so i rejected them out of fear. Now i had less attention from girls (due to work, study etc) and It would be better if I had the experience of such a relationship in my 17-18 than not to have any relationship experience at all. + in my 17 i started to date with women in her 23 (she had child with ex husband that used to live with him) i used to be confident about such experiance couse "i dated milf" BUT now i think i really did not needed it and it was better if she rejected me and stop our conversation and relationships.
I can blame her but who gona chose side of 17 yo teen boy? that out of high sex drive and hormones wanted sex with hot chick? - no one. And it was my will and mutual so there no crime at all and i cant blame her for that - and only person who i able to blame is myself. But i did not do it couse i am not done nothing wrong at all.
We did not live in ideal world of that high moral standarts - we live in world where ppl can never be in love and decided to start family out of dispair with person that they found disgusting.
Yes it is terrable , but what we gona do with that? - nothing couse we cant.
Same with underage sexuality - according to law they had right to had sex with anyone that agree had sex with em and if they themselfs agree with it
personally i only think the dark part of being a host as well as a bandman is the fact that they might not be making enough from visual kei alone and have to turn to other career paths which is sad :/ but I don't think being a host is bad on it's own though tbh
whats a host??? im kinda new and am so confused
Yes. That's true. Bands actually make you lose money rather than make more. Sometimes bands have to pay up if they don't meet the required sales target.
@@chn3lll253 Host is someone who entertains guests at clubs and bars. They pretty much flirt, complement and act like BF/GF of the host. Sex is only included if both the host and Guest want it. There are clubs just for this business.
@@daphnedas in a fucking band? U kidding
@@RicoLee27 It's true.
I remember when I first discovered Tanuki at 13 years old and I cried so hard because the perfect image I had of these random men were shattered to pieces. Yet somehow I couldn’t stop reading the tea 😂 that’s also where I learned about mitsu and tsunagari.
Thank you so much for the subtitles! Great informative video, keep up the good work!
I was not surprised really because there's a Darkside to K POP so infact sadly was not surprised to hear Darkside to Visual Kei which I love too infact I love many bands of all types of music, I love solo artists too infa t it's I guess tougher then we think being in the music Industry
That's not quite as bad as I was thinking, that may be because so much happens in black metal.
So a Mistu pays money to a bandman? My ex girlfriend was a Mitsu lol. It wasn't a serious relationship. When I met her, she was engaged to an American guy but we still dated. She told me about her past how she paid almost 15,000 USD to a bandman. She told me he was begging her for money sometimes. Lol. She listened to a lot of visual kei. I think her favorite band was called "Shellmy". She was a little bit crazy. Dated her for about 10 months. She wanted to breakup with her fiancee for me but I said no, because I didn't wanna deal with her problems. Interesting video. I learned something new today.
So, basically you were the sidebitch?
@@nattojelly8349 basically. All the benefits without the headache. She would cook for me too, and bring me over food.
Wait a minute? So for tsunagari, they’re sleeping with each other and for mitsu, it’s with fans? Cause that’s a lot going around lol. That’s bad.
Tsunagari is with fans but they just don't get paid while mitsu is for money. 😊 Real messed up either ways.
No, tsunagari is also with fans, but mitsu are basically sugar mamas
Can you guys do a video on how to get into visual kei music career and japanese record labels? Thank you 💜
I’m interested in this as well
始めるのに、ヴィジュアル系バンドを作ってw
その後人気になって。
Thank you so much for this. Much love from so cal
NO way i can rent one of my favorite boys to a shopping tour??? OH MY! I would totally!
I'm from the future and it got me laughing when both of you apologised when I alr heard of all these dark sides..... except for the "stealing other bandmen's money and equipment" XD I think the fact that VK bandmen are able to show their problematic sides is beautiful in its own way? like there's freedom in that. let's not pretend as if only Vkei has its dark sides.... even the Jpop industry too but at least in Vkei, bandmen do not need to try hard to show a clean image.
let this be a lesson to fangirls/fanboys that no matter how much you like a musician, at the end they're strangers and you'll never know their true selves ^^ be careful around strangers.
So pretty much just like musicians from any country.
The worst thing that comes to mind...
Damn I wish I could stop smoking.
Lol
Awww you guys are so cute!!! Just got back to listening to some VK bands I used to, and YT recommended this video! Loved it: the video (not the bad stuff the bandmen do!!)
This was a brilliant video. Thank you for bravely revealing the other side to vkei. The underage girls bit scares me a lot, sad that vtubers do that too. Respect for sharing this story, and wow Tanuki sounds worse than the other social media.
I need a 1 hour essay on this with receipts plz TToTT
this is such a universal experience its crazy.....
Please, do more videos with this theme 🙏🙏
Great
make more videos about V系 🖤💕
What was the band they were in? I always would like to listen to more vkei if anybody knows
Thank you for oppenings my eyes, I shall be more careful what band I follow to, greetings from México ^^/
Im a fan of 80s and 90s VKei maybe due to different genration Vkei now is probably different from before.Glad to know the dark side of new generation of vkei
ehhh, the 80s and 90s era was probably just as bad or possibly even worse as this current generation of vkei / j-rock… it was an era where a lot of musicians and performers from various parts of the world did questionable things and it was more normalised then than it is now
Me: There's a dark side? O_o
у парня на фото пурикура на щеке русская буква Я...
One of those bands in Kaneto juusei who sleeps with a lot of girls. International fans find them sweet but the reality is very different
I didnt know they also do that
how do you know this
@@amele_2 japanese anonymous boards are filled with discussion of this and on some bandman exist photo 18+
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Is this true…where did u find it
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Thank you for the video guys my name is Debbie from the UK 🇬🇧 Kinnichiwa ❤️💖
Lol what kinnichiwa means? 😅
@@asricikita I spelt it wrong Konnitchwa (still not sure of the spelling sorry) is a greeting like Hello, Hai means yes and Sianara is good day or goodnight that's all I know I'm afraid
@@debramicallef9996 Konnichiwa means good afternoon. I’m not sure what do you mean by sianara, but you probably meant to say sayonara which means good bye / farewell 😅
Japanese don’t actually have what we call as hello. They greet others according to the time of the day like good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
@@asricikita Thank you
@@debramicallef9996 arigato *
tanuki is so disgusting and terrifying
I agree…crazy fans
Is it still on? I couldn't find a site at all...
Cute, but we know all this stuff already 😂 Good luck with the channel though.
I know, right! Also, some of these are quite tame compared to other music scenes anyway. Idk what people expect.
@@CO-iz7wp the sex host is shocking
@@RicoLee27 Ya that’s pretty much being a male prostitution
IKR? There are even VK songs which talk about these things... xD
Not a lot of new fans know this
Prostitution AND they are famous.... Wth 🤣
So what you're saying is I have a chance.
……
wwww
With a date? Forget about possible relationship when u are a product for money
Weird.
LMAOOOO
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黒歴史になってそう
VKEI is the best modern Japanese music/style, yo! Ya'll had a good presentation, but it felt sooo one-sided that I started to suspect you were both kicked from your respective bands for being bland and unoriginal - or, "basic as fn@#". But I'm sure there's some truth to what you're tellin'. That stuff about railin' chicks in a seedy fashion is kinda ubiquitous in the music industry, the world over. If you'd been born in Tennessee, USA and played "country music", you'd see the same things. Or if you'd just been born a rich person in any country on the planet, you'd [certainly] have actually done these things yourself.
I appreciate the English subtitles that’s very kind, I didn’t understand some of them though but both of y’all are so cute.