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I’ve been thinking these past couple years about a possible reintroduction of Scrappy into the franchise. Change up his body a bit so he looks like an ACTUAL DOG instead of “head with tiny body” design going on here. More importantly, make him even more scared of monsters and spooky stuff than his uncle. Make him a character who actually looks up to his uncle’s courage to make himself be courageous. It’s the most relatable and wholesome thing you can have for the character.
Did you ever read "Meddling Kids" by Edgar Cantero? Might be good for a video if you need an idea. Thank you so much for making Scooby interesting to me. Your videos are always worth a watch. Take care, drink water, take meds, sleep, eat, wash, and watch for deer.
Hey there, Scrappy Doo non-hater here. So what you're telling me is that there's an easy rewrite to make it so Scrappy isn't actually the villain of the first Scooby movie? That it's: Instead of writing Scrappy being an annoying little twerp in that flash back, you could have it so instead he becomes disillusioned with Scooby, tries to set out on his own, heads towards the spookiest mystery he can get his paws on (because it's something that his cowardly uncle WOULDN'T doo), gets in way over his head with the Daemon Riteous, feels fear for the first time, gets overtaken AND THEN the whole island demon story wouldn't have to change? And that this would be the motivation for Scooby to want to come along, as it'd be the last known location of his now years long lost nephew? Damn, that's crazy. EDIT: just wanted to specify that I was referring to the live action Scooby Doo movie
Now that makes since to me! I think we all should try for some scrappy doo Fanfiction involving rewriting Scrappy do into a charecter we personaly would like better. I always thought that made more since. it's certainly better than blind stupid hate.
Scrappy Doo’s personality traits are basically identical to every puppy or small dog I’ve ever met. Enthusiastic, oddly clever, and will pick a fight with anything regardless of its size.
@saltygibus5746 Scrappy's behavior can best be described as "wanting to throw hands with the bad guys," not exactly anything that would be considered "bad"
@@dittomaster2141 he really wasn't that bad...he was just a puppy. I mean we do see that by New Scrappy Mysteries however, that he cooled his jets...probably because he realized something....like maybe on a visit once or twice...Daphne had a chat with him about toning it down?
If you asked me Scrappy Doo's personality, I would sum it up in one word... scrappy. Yeah, he idolizes his uncle, but his main trait is the same one that kinda ticks alot of people off. He acts first, questions later. He's quick to act and in all honesty, I gotta respect that.
It might interest you to know there was a follow-up series that brings Daphne into the mix. In that show, she balances out Scrappy's gung-ho attitude and she's able to hold him back better than the cowardly Scooby and Shaggy, as well as get him to listen when she has a plan. He's also had moments where he gets scared and runs away like everyone else.
He never really pissed people off though. Like maybe Scrappy and Shaggy most by running towards rather than away from the villains, but he's otherwise pretty nice and looks up to the gang. They mostly just recognise and treat him like a child.
He could easily be an antagonistic force within the team, causing more trouble for the rest of the gang than its worth, then you could make him go through an arc
Scrappy wasn’t even really evil in Velma. He only killed a bunch of corrupt government agents and scientists who experimented on and tortured him, and Velma
Paused at 10:33 Scrappy is Brave, Just and lacks foresight. He's a YOUNG, HOT-BLOODED, DOG. He got as excided about mysteries as the other 3 missing characters put together (from his debut) and wore his heart on his sleeve. To be honest, Scrappy's biggest failings can be placed squarely on Scooby and Shaggy. Shaggy offered no real training for him, and Scooby does very little to impart any practical wisdom aside from "be scared of everything" which was counter to his core personality. I liked Scrappy as a kid because he was a good foil for Scooby. Scooby tries to be scared or run away, Scrappy would mess that plan up and FORCE him to overcome his fear to protect his nephew. I really liked this dynamic because it highlighted how Scooby could be brave not just for food, but for family. It also showed more of the wacky world that Scooby and Shaggy lived in and helped make Scooby stand out less as the only talking animal. I never understood the Scrappy hate, and I am so glad he got a partial redemption in the apocalypse comic. (Thank you Comics Explained for the awesome review!)
I feel ya bro I loved scrappy as a kid... I was a scooby in real life during my elementary years so I loved ❤ that scrappy who literally had no chance was so brave... I never knew he wasn't a beloved character he was my favorite character
I never understood the scrappy hate either. aLL i EHAR IS PEOPLE blame sCRAPPY for the failure of scooby doo and double down to die on that hill. But as you said it makes more since Scrappy was good for Scooby cause he gave scooby a reason to do mroe than just run but actualy stand up for something other than food but those he cared about and loved. It generaly makes more since to look elsewhere for the cause of the fall. If people are gonna blame the scrappy hate then that technicaly means it's their own fault don't you think? They just stop on scooby because of one little charecter? I don't think Scrappy was ever that annoying and I don't think he squarely can be blamed for stuff like that. because that' justmaking him a scape goat and that's a lazy way of looking at things. I fully believe Scrappy deserves to be rewritten in ways that is loyal to the scrappy of the orgianal show but make him less annoying but still honor his charecter.
So, as a kid I watched the original episodes when they first came out. Scrappy Doo was a part of the flanderization* of the characters. Some network executive decided "Hey, let's put kids in kid shows." And that's how we got the various Cousin Olivers. To make Scrappy a believable villain have him age into becoming a cynical teenager rather than a gullible child. Have him set up mysteries to prove to the world that the idealized version of Scooby he'd had as a child was a complete fake. Disillusionment works as a villain origin story. *Shaggy started off as a varsity athlete in gymnastics. Freddy started off as a competent leader who let other people shine. Velma had emotional intelligence as well as education and smarts. Daphne was kind as well as brave.
I feel like these days people flanderize them even more now than ever. They make Fred a himbo, Velma insufferable, Daphne gets made to be either shallow or a fighter (things she wasn’t in the original), and they stoop to stoner jokes with Shaggy. I miss the Zombie Island/real monsters quadrilogy era characterization cause they had the same characteristics of the classic stories without dumbing them down.
Okay, Scrappy was energetic, fearless, naive, loud, stubborn, a bit clueless. I also remember loving the character when he came out. I wasn't alone, he actually wasn't hated till much later on.
@@Maniac4Bricks don't pile it too high or you lose your points and have to start over...especially with all the rotten food mixed in with the good stuff when the fridge gets suspended from the ceiling in that game!
Nah, this era is boring. I'm hoping he returns to proper comic videos again, but I like Scott as a person, so I'll continue to stay subbed for that reason.
@@LuxBellator92I must say I'm a bit mystified that you are bored by this story of Scrappy Doo, the science experiment attack dog turned apocalyptic wasteland crusader. Of all the videos to leave that kind of comment on, this seems the least appropriate
@@LuxBellator92 I get it. I like Scooby Doo and I like Scott, but when every video is about Scooby Doo it's just not as interesting. Comics and super heroes just have a lot more to cover. I did really enjoy this video though. And I really liked the video covering color theory. But I do wish he'd branch out more often. Even if it isn't back to comics. He's made some really good videos that weren't about comics or Scooby Doo. So more of that would be good too.
When I was a kid in the 80s I liked scrappy.. I was a scaredy-cat and it was funny and refreshing to see a character so small yet so brave... I never realized back then that ppl found him annoying.. my favorite episode were the ones with him in it becuase he was so brave...
@@vernonherb I don't even think most people found Scrappy annoying. It was just a few people, who held onto that grudge. And then just happened to be in a position to make official Scooby Doo adaptations. In turn retroactively coloring peoples' memories of Scrappy, and creating this _meme_ that he was supremely annoying, and should be villanized because "it would be funny". It's this hatedom for the character that turned it into a fixture. And the execs at Warner Bros don't know or care about their own intellectual properties. All they know is this meme that Scrappy is hated, and so give a blanket ban on him appearing in a real, sympathetic fashion. It's why, when the Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo finally got a wrap-up, Scrappy's absence was a mean-spirited punchline.
@@Bluecho4 Someone did a video talking about the fall of Scrappy (don’t remember who, and don’t feel like looking for the video currently). The reason for Scrappy’s downfall is that, after he saved the franchise from getting stale, the executives kept giving him bigger and bigger roles with less and less of the rest of the cast, eventually culminating with him going around with a knock-off Scooby and Shaggy. Scrappy wasn’t the problem, the execs trying to float the entire Scooby franchise off of Scrappy was the problem, but they conveniently forget the cause of the problem and blame one of the symptoms instead.
I’d rather they redeem Scrappy instead of constantly playing off the “everybody hates Scrappy” memes. Honestly, he’s only annoying in the first Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo show (the one where they did the Three Stooges like stories with Scooby, Shaggy and Scrappy.). The 3 tv specials, and the subsequent shows with Scrappy, he’s actually fine.
That's what I've always thought. I never understood the Scrappy hate when I was a kid, because his early shows weren't being rerun then. I only had him in 13 Ghosts and those (awesome and icon) tv movies. And he was great in those! After finally seeing his early work, with that annoying Brooklyn accent, and a lot less brains...yeah, I get it. But his character was quickly rewritten to be better. It's so odd that the hate from those early, mostly forgotten shows has stuck around, even though, at this point, I think most people have only really seen him in those three movies.
It would have made more sense to have the live action movie's villian be Scoobi-Dum. You could totally see him trying to help the gang out by proving monsters are real, by making monsters real without realizing the problems that would cause
@@BlUsKrEEm you know what, that would have actually been hilarious. It’s fun because they do set up that idea in the film, Scrappy wants to fight the monsters and the gang keep telling him that they don’t exist. So maybe that’s his motivation, he just wants to prove that they are real, but he’s got in over his head and realises that he’s too small to actually fight them so needs to perform the ritual to make himself big enough to actually fight them. His motive is noble, but he’s an idiot so he doesn’t realise he's just making things worse.
I always forget that Scooby Dum exists. Do they even bring him up anymore? I could imagine someone writing a decent villain story about him feeling left out.
true. Plus remember that the villian ofthis move was kind of planning to sort of change people;s personalities to be more chill. Conisdering that Scrappy was kicked out and mistreated by the mytory gang, especialy afteer the uninating incident, it made since he felt not only abandoned but would desire to change the world for delusional reasons. Scooby Dumb however I could picture him also having good ententions that are greatly misguided. Making him more of an ironic villian and having the cast be more sympathetic for the villian would also gave them more of a personal class rather than being stereotypes.
Your description of Scrappy gave me another good way to make him the villian more based in the series "lore". Simply have scrappy realize that scooby isn't as brave as he thought he was. This could have been the gang's last case where Scrappy gets captured or put in danger, he's not afraid because his uncle scoob is there to save him. However Scoob's own cawardice gets the better of him and he fails to save him. The gang think they lost scrappy and break things off. Years later they are brought together again my a mysterious figure, we slowly find out what happened to drive them apart as they face new dangers and again Scrappy is revealed as the antagonist fueled by abondonment by the gang. The gang has no choice but to defeat him as scrappy's plans fall apart and he once again is put in a similiar dangerous scenario. This time Scoob has learned to overcome his fear and save him, the two have a moment where they both awknowledge their faults and come to a better understanding, maybe scrappy did all this to help scooby become brave or just realizes he has gone too far. We end with the gang fully reunited Scrappy in toe, maybe Scrappy needs some time before he can be back fully with the mystery gang but in this moment; they are a family again.
When I think of Scrappy's main traits, he is a kid whose not afraid of the monsters like his Uncle Scoob is, but yet he still admires his uncle like a young child would if they heard the tales of their relative going on these grand mysteries. Also, he is always wants to help out those with trouble as seen in the Shaggy and Scooby Meet movies series. The kid is a bit much in his personality, but that is just how some young kids are and while I think there wasn't anything plan for this character from the start, I think at most he is someone who wants to have and fun and go on adventure with his hero Scooby Doo and become who he thinks Scooby can be, even at his most cowardly. Hopefully one day, there can be a series that can showcase the good of Scrappy and not just some old shame that really wasn't the worst of what Scooby did back in the day.
Part of why kid me loved the Ghoul School special so much was because of Scrappy. Hes excited about the mysteries and forces Scooby to face the threats instead of running. Hes acts like a puppy and saved the franchise back in the day
I have always always thought that an animated stylized Scooby Doo apocalypse film would be incredible, and could finally serve as a solution to Scrappy’s reputation problem
Scrappy is hardheaded. Dude tries to take on monsters 3 times his size no matter how many people tell him to sit down. Sometimes it is about the size of the dog and not just about the size of the fight in him.
Basically, if an executive told me to make Scrappy an antagonist or villain in my Scooby series. I’d tell that guy to go EFF themselves. Scrappy did NOTHING WRONG. He is a precious pup and must be protected at all costs. He’s everything you just mentioned him as. At the heart of it all, he’s a kid who is learning what it takes to be a great sleuth and solve spooky mysteries. It’s Scrappy that needs to learn when to be brave and when to retreat, it’s him who needs to learn that not every problem can be solved by picking fights and looking for trouble. My ideal Scrappy would be sort of a reoccurring friendly rival for the Mystery gang. Solving mysteries by himself or with them. He’d be a bit older, roughly around the age of a pre-teen, 12 years old (which is odd when his uncle is supposed to be 7 in human years) to be exact. And he’d also be seen around in Coolsville, writing stories as an undercover supernatural/paranormal journalist for his blog that focuses on spooky supernatural mysteries, legends, and recent mysteries that are going on and need to be solved or have been solved.
Before even digesting thumbnails or anything just the statement "There's a better way to make Scrappy evil" immediately made me go to the Scooby Apocalypse comic and Im glad I was on the same page as you. Its a shame some people I know wrote it off as being Too Edgy at a glance.
Stopped at 10:34, question "What do you think the character of Scrappy Doo is like?" When I was a kid thirty years ago, I loved Scrappy. I never saw the gang as "kids" proper, (even 16 year olds were like adults to a little kid) so I liked there being an actual little kid. And Scrappy wasn't just a little kid in distress the adults had to save; he was useful, even essential! I didn't see him as that much more reckless those meddling kids who couldn't wait to go into clearly haunted houses. Scrappy was brave, intelligent, quick-witted, and he always supported his Uncle Scooby. I loved their relationship; even when Scoob was freaking out, he remembered to take care of Scrappy first. I guess the whole Scrappy Doo hate went over my head or something, or maybe the people who hated Scrappy weren't the ones intended to sympathize with him.
The people behind "Be cool scooby doo" had plans to bring Scrappy back and they were gonna write him in a way that would probably make people like him more
I feel like so many people are unaware of Scooby Apocolypse, but I'm glad it was part of this video. Personally, I feel like it's a very different vibe, but it understands scooby doo as a whole, which is what makes it so good for diehard scooby doo fans like myself. I appreciate all the nuance brought into this discussion! Great video!
A better way to make Scrappy a villian is to use his admiration of Scooby... Scrappy knows Scooby's cowardly so he gives him opportunities to be brave... he's been behind every villian all along because he loves his uncle scooby and wants him to see himself the way Scrappy sees him.
Ppl who dismiss Scrappy as just an annoying little dog clearly never owned one themselves. My puppy is a hyper protective emotive playful Husky… and I love her for it! She’s the real life Scrappy Dooby Doo!
10:00 Scrappy Do's personality before the movie was always that he was Scrappy and itching to fight (Its his name) he admires his uncle Scooby. He is energetic and always trying to solve problems.
10:29 Writing for the Pop Quiz before watching the rest of the vid: From memory, Scrappy is seemingly oblivious to danger(makes sense, he’s a puppy), eager and brave(bordering on overconfident) for his small size compared to Scooby, and is mostly friendly to those he meets. He’s basically an excitable kid that would be way in over his head in any other show.
Paused the video at Pup Quiz. Scrappy character traits. 1. Loud. 2. Over confident. 3. Takes on challenges he could never win. Though I feel that is just over confident. 4. Energetic.
As far as the original cartoon? (Responding to the pause) Scrappy was: Brave Energetic Enthusiastic Encouraging Naive Stubborn Foolish He literally filled the void that the rest of the gang left when the show moved away from them. If Shaggy and Scooby were on their own, as they were after Where Are You, they wouldn't get anything done. Scrappy was there to push them to do things.
Now I just want a scooby doo show where scrappy has all the weird johnny test spy thriller stuff they made up for get a clue. Making him some weird bio experiment by shaggys rich inventor uncle that has this goofy rogues gallery which is why the more grounded stuff flys over his head
When I was young I actually dug Scrappy. Basically anytime they visited Scooby's extended family I enjoyed it. As an adult I don't feel strongly towards Scrappy either way, but I was surprised by the hatred against him.
I was a fan of Scooby Doo since it started, but I wouldn't call him a coward. Sure he, (and Shaggy) let fear get the better of him (them), but when push came to shove he was there. It reminds me of Bob Hope in his movie "Ghost Breakers". He called it one of his favorites, because even though his character seemed cowardly, when danger threatened, he didn't hide behind the damsel, but rather stood between her and it. As always thank you so very much for the videos. And Scott, I really appreciate you. You are NOT annoying. Plus I sympathize with your frustration with wires and tech. In hindsight I laugh: I remember when the VHS was the size of a dresser. Then later on I had to help my dad figure out the connections: Which was weird because the big VHS was at his work in the 60s, a company called Ampex. And now I call on my kids to help me with the wiring, and watch Scooby Doo videos (original cartoon series) with my grands.
At the part where you asked about what Scrappy's character traits are, and -- not knowing where you might take this yet -- I had a thought: There might be a way to make Scrappy a villain, by way of having him discover how scared and bumbling Scooby is and feeling completely betrayed by it ("you let me believe you were different" "everyone needs to know you're a liar" or "did everyone know but me? I need to prove I don't need to be like him." Etc.) Though, even this seems like a TV movie/extended episode, at best. Scrappy learns it's okay to be scared and okay to look up to Scooby, nobody's perfect, that's not a reflection on you, and everyone just needs to try their best, etc., etc. Not theatrical, nostalgia IP movie release material. ... I always viewed Scrappy as being the "Carlton" of the group. Annoying, relatively harmless, well-meaning, sidekick. Never worth a full villain treatment.
Also while I’m here, i just wanted to say that I see that fucking “purple is a fall color” meme EVERY YEAR SINCE ITS BEEN POSTED and ive also been subscribed to this channel for years and somehow i never knew you were behind that so i literally lost my shit when I watched ur other video 😭
I had an idea where you could go a Jason Tod/d/ Winter Soldier route where Scrappy himself, but survived. He ends up getting amnesia and forgot who he was. Some evil dude or whatever gets a hold of him, and brainwashed him into hating the gang, and youd have an emotional arc where Scooby would have to remind Scrabby who he is
The most "annoying" thing about Scrappy, I think, is the recent tendency in the Scooby-Doo franchise to try and reinvent him as a villain. Even Scooby Apocalypse, while I agree it's the best attempt, had me rolling my eyes at being yet another attempt to turn one of my favorite Scooby-Doo characters into an antagonist. And it still ticks me off that Curse of the 13th Ghost, the _one_ recent Scooby-Doo work which tried to bring him back, as a good guy... ended up needing to cut him so the story/cast wouldn't be so overly cluttered. But hey, on the bright side, at least we got a Flim-Flam redemption?
scrappy doo always felt like that classic cartoon character that's always ready to throw a punch "Let me at em!" and his fists are flying kinda thing. XD
For Pup Quiz, as someone who watched a lot of the series with him as a cast member I would say 3 traits he has was Loyal to his friends. Brave beyond his means. Positive to a fault.
Scrappy I always that was a just a kid and he was surrounded by role models who didn't know how to raise him (When it was Shaggy and Scooby), but he got better when Daphne came into the picture. I feel like people need to watch 13 Ghosts or the Ghouls School to see Scrappy in a positive light.
Or, we could just not make Scrappy evil and rework him so that he fits as part of Mystery Inc.? Pair him up with Velma as the intellectuals, make Fred and Daphne the romantic adventurers, and keep Shaggy and Scooby the comedic relief. It’ll work.
I think one of the most grating things about Scrappy is that he sounds like a fully grown man doing a cutesy voice. I feel like if they actually made him sound like a kid he'd be a lot more bearable.
I'd say the first season (Lennie Weinrib) was lke that (and yes, it was ill fitting. The same thing happened later when he tried to voice young Fred Flintstone), but the Don Messick voice did sound more like a kid (identical to Snap of Rice Krispies).
Honestly, I love Scrappy-Doo!❤ I was never on the bandwagon with all the hate he's been getting and how he's been dragged to be in a villain. If anything, I don't blame him for snapping at people for all this backlash he's received! (Anybody remember that cartoon Network commercial where he told off all the new stars and called out Dexter "You are a genius! How'd to figure that out?!"😂😂 I feel that I frustrated hate, Scrap!) Always preffered a brave, confident little puppy with more courage than his cowardly Great Dane uncle any day! This may add why I prefferred A pup named Scooby-Doo so much over his original!😂
I remember reading the comic when it finished, scrappy was one of my favorite character in the series, he had a lot good moments with Daphne and that kid with one arm (forgot his name)that made him feel endearing by the end.
Scrappy Was the first time I realise cartoons could have elements people didn't like. I genuinely thought if it was part of the show it must be good. Kinda blew my mind.
The last person I talked to who blindly hated Scrappy Doo was a big believer in eugenics. So I just use "So how do you feel about Scrappy Doo?" and other commonly villainized and victim blamed characters just to get an idea if I should not interact with these people.
I love scrappy doo so much. He was a huge part of my childhood, and to see him done wrong time and time again hurts. Same with one of my other favorite characters, Hank pym, who was also turned into a villain. Both can't catch a break and are treated unfairly.
when u were like "he was still, at the end of the day..." and paused for dramatic effect i accidentally leaned on my keyboard and so the dramatic pause just lingered and lingered and lingered and honestly i just want you to know i was captivated enough to wait like 20 whole seconds for you to drop the hardest line in youtube history
who ever was responsible for the ret con trilogy needs to be fired! out of a cannon! Vincent using PROPS?! No Weer and Bogle?! but a grown up FlimFlam?! whose the only one who even mentions mah boy Scrappy?!
@@foolserrand-lu7ym that was meddling execs. Sheridan was fully wanting to play by the 13 Ghosts rules...but WB has a "If Velma isn't right, we don't want it" mentality.
Pup Quiz Answer: Scrappy Doo is A Child. Not just in the sense that he's a puppy, but that the behaviours that define him; the fact that he thinks he's invincible and his blind idolisation of his elders, are traits most strongly associated with childhood. The gang more or less treat him as they would a young child and when he does mess things up (which I don't recall even happening as often as people say) they just explain why that was the wrong thing to do, and he listens to them. There's no "Scrappy tries to prove that he's not just a kid" episode, since Scrappy isn't really written as old enough to even recognise that. I think Billiam made a good point in his reviews that the 'Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo' era where Scrappy is at his most objectionable, makes Shaggy and Scooby look just as bad since they come off as careless guardians, behaving irresponsibly around him and not treating him as the child he's still otherwise written as. When Daphne returns into the dynamic, it smoothens out again, since Scrappy is split up with her much more and becomes like, her little sidekick. Even in the Red Shirt Trilogy where Shaggy and Scooby are much less jerkish than their gangless episodes, Scrappy is written at some of his most level headedness. P.S I liked how in Apocalypse, Daphne and Scrappy have a significant dynamic, and she's the one he respects most. It feels like a cute callout to those episodes of the show.
I'm going to be honest, if Scrappy's appearance in HBO's Velma ends up triggering a great redemption of the character, that would be the funniest thing to ever come out of that disaster of a show. XD
This was a fun video; thanks for reminding me of that comic. Yeah, I never really bought into the Scrappy hate, so seeing it analyzed this way was interesting. Speaking of analyzing things, the bit starting at 20:07 about how he isn't very successful at fighting the monsters has me thinking. The largest reason he doesn't is because he's pulled back from attacking, but what if he wasn't? He does have a few feats of strength and most of the monsters he threatened to splat are just normal humans so--could he have taken them? Given what abilities they see the monsters display, is there really reason to fear Scrappy losing the fight? Yeah, I *do* get them pulling him back: on a watsonian level he's a little kid and they're worried he'll get hurt even if he wins and on a doylist level this was the era of cartoons where you couldn't show someone getting punched. Still, interesting to consider what his win-loss ratio would've been if he'd been allowed to actually unleash the puppy power.
13:58 haha comedic gold. That time period was around the time I found your content. Was nostalgic so see you talking about comics again. Hope you're doing well man! love to see it 😄
I feel like Scrappy could possibly be a 5th dimensional imp, like Mxyzptlk, and is just a huge fan of Scooby. So he’s self inserted himself into Scooby’s life. Cuz he calls him Uncle Scooby, but who’s his parent? Scooby never mentions his brother or sister that is Scrappy’s parent, as far as I can remember.
If you want to do Scrappy as the villain and stay true to his character, there's a very simple way to go about it. Have him be the main bad guy with good intentions at heart. He's idolizes Scooby-Doo, his uncle. He views him as brave and fearless and gives him personally all the credit for Mystery Inc's numerous solved monster cases. Let's say that someone at some point who knows about Scooby tells Scrappy that his uncle is actually a coward who runs away from monsters rather than how Scrappy views him. Scrappy doesn't believe them. He's adamant about it. He knows throughout every fiber of his being that the pedestal he puts his uncle up onto is deserved, and he's determined to prove it. There's your motivation. He hatches up a scheme and does something to lure Mystery Inc in so that he can prove once and for all that Scooby-Doo is every bit as brave and fearless as he thinks he is.
Honestly, I do give the film credit for getting at least one thing right about Scrappy. He's a child prodigy in later incarnations, so he would absolutely have the knowledge to build a realistic animatronic suit that he could hide in.
Seeing as how Velma tried to mimic the greatness of other media like Spiderverse while completely failing to understand why it worked, I wouldn't be too surprised if that version of Scrappy doo was influenced by Big Jack Horner. It makes more sense the more you think about it.
Frankly, much like with the deluge of "Evil Supermen," villifying Scrappy Doo is overdone... The most subversive thing you can do now is play him straight...
Already watched the video, here's his summary: > Scrappy becomes animator > Makes scooba-gang into inflation art. > Pops them. > That's it. That's the whole video essay.
Theres a reason you're one of my favorite content creators on this platform and this video perfectly shows off why, you're able to look at things in such and interesting and nuanced way and show off how expertly certain aspects of a franchise you clearly care about a ton are capable of telling some of the most interesting stories, I'd never heard of Scooby Apocalypse before this video, but the way you explained it and showed how Scrappy is portrayed made me want to actively go and buy a copy of it to read it for myself
When I was a kid, Scrappy was actually my favorite 😂 Probably had more to do with my age and when I started watching Scooby Doo than anything else. I think I just naturally liked him because he was a puppy, and my toddler brain really liked puppies. Still wild to me how much everyone else hates him though.
I feel like making Scrappy the villain is done more for the meme rather than an interesting narrative decision, which is frustrating. I do like what the comic adaptation did though, it made him believable (well as believable as a genetic modified monster eating dog can get lol)
So glad to see you bring Scooby Apocalypse into the limelight! I was visiting this girl that I was dating at the time. While in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet, I noticed the first issue of Scooby Apocalypse lying on the sink with other reading material. I can't call myself a big Scooby Doo fan considering the amount of Scooby Doo content there is that I haven't gotten the chance to consume yet, but I really do love the character. I grew up with "What's New Scooby Doo", the TV Show with a rocking intro, and that too had its own comic series that I used to buy at the store. I even still have a Scooby Doo toothbrush that I got from one of the issues (I'm not still using it of course). I love Mystery Inc and rewatches it from time to time. I watched the original show whenever it had re-runs, usually late at night for some reason and I had to watch it with subtitles as it wasn't dubbed to Norwegian. I feel like I'm the only one who remembers "The 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo". My mom knew how much I loved Scooby that she bought the James Gunn movie on VHS, but then she noticed that it had an 11 age rating so I couldn't watch it for years. When I turned 11, it was the first movie I watched and I loved that too even though I was mainly confused. All of those memories came back as I saw that comic issue. Scooby Doo, reimagined as something more adult, futuristic and apocalyptic? The gang facing genuine monsters that could kill them? I was intrigued and thus I ended up reading that entire issue while in the bathroom. It wasn't until I finished that I realized that I've now spent 30-40 minutes in the bathroom when I'm supposed to be on a date. While she and me didn't last long, my love for this comic series did. I bought the issues shortly after reading the first issue and I'm so grateful for this comic series to remind me why I love Scooby Doo so much. Because despite being reimagined in a completely different world with a completely different tone, it still felt so genuinely true to Scooby Doo in a lot of ways. You can tell the writers understood the source material and just wanted to see what unique fun things they could do with it. Very good read, I recommend it to everyone.
I just want to preface by saying that as a kid Scrappy and Yabba (in the, like, two episodes I saw he was in) were my favorites, mainly because they were the ones to run towards potential danger rather than away from it. But what I actually want to mention is that in the original, it shows that it's actually SCOOBY who's the outlier in human-ness in his family, and even other dogs. In that he seems to be one of the few with speech issues (Scrappy's friends are just as articulate as him, the siblings and cousins can speak perfectly but all with different accents (yes, even Scooby Dum, who has a 'hillbilly' accent)) until "What's New, Scooby Doo?". And it always seems bipedal vs. quadruped to be by choice, or as they grow it just becomes too hard for a Great Dane to maintain being bipedal outside of short times (I forget the name of the episode, but it's the one with a magician dressed as a classic ghost that can walk through walls via pepper's ghost where Fred tells Scooby to think 'John Wayne' and he spends the next scene completely bipedal. I know there's others but I'm not about to watch every episode of a 50-year-old cartoon).
Scrappy's motivation for taking over the world might be ill-explained, but I don't quite agree that the army of monsters are unjustified in the final film. They capture people to harvest the souls that Scrappy needs, and get human bodies that protect them from the sun as a result. Mutually beneficial.
yeah can we just STOP making Scrappy the villain because a few incel like Gen Xers didn’t like him. it’s so tiresome at this point. he’s the reason, Scooby Doo is still around and not a fad of the 70s like The Six Million Dollar Man
I’ve been thinking these past couple years about a possible reintroduction of Scrappy into the franchise. Change up his body a bit so he looks like an ACTUAL DOG instead of “head with tiny body” design going on here. More importantly, make him even more scared of monsters and spooky stuff than his uncle. Make him a character who actually looks up to his uncle’s courage to make himself be courageous. It’s the most relatable and wholesome thing you can have for the character.
While I do think it would be awesome to see Scrappy Doo return and be given a good faith writer that will make him endearing for new people, I HAVE to disagree with your idea on the grounds that I think it sounds like making Scrappy Doo not be, well, Scrappy Doo. I disagree with the idea that the same character couldn't work even if they wrote him with the same exact traits but just given better writing. I mean, most of the actual reason people hate Scrappy is because of the times where he was literally written out of character on purpose by people who despised the character. If he was written by someone who had some degree of appreciation for his character, the same traits could be given a lot of consideration instead of constant mockery and him acting like an asshole for no reason other than the writers hate him.
@@friendbreakfast Maybe you’re right, but the Scrappy well has been so thoroughly poisoned now that trying to stay super faithful to his “original character” might just not be received by audiences that well. It should, but I guess I just don’t see the writers going that route.
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I’ve been thinking these past couple years about a possible reintroduction of Scrappy into the franchise.
Change up his body a bit so he looks like an ACTUAL DOG instead of “head with tiny body” design going on here. More importantly, make him even more scared of monsters and spooky stuff than his uncle. Make him a character who actually looks up to his uncle’s courage to make himself be courageous.
It’s the most relatable and wholesome thing you can have for the character.
Did you ever read "Meddling Kids" by Edgar Cantero? Might be good for a video if you need an idea.
Thank you so much for making Scooby interesting to me. Your videos are always worth a watch.
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Thanks for talking about the Netflix thing it was bothering me so much WB is crazy! BTW what do you think about the anime adaptation of Scooby doo?
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Hey there, Scrappy Doo non-hater here. So what you're telling me is that there's an easy rewrite to make it so Scrappy isn't actually the villain of the first Scooby movie?
That it's:
Instead of writing Scrappy being an annoying little twerp in that flash back, you could have it so instead he becomes disillusioned with Scooby, tries to set out on his own, heads towards the spookiest mystery he can get his paws on (because it's something that his cowardly uncle WOULDN'T doo), gets in way over his head with the Daemon Riteous, feels fear for the first time, gets overtaken AND THEN the whole island demon story wouldn't have to change? And that this would be the motivation for Scooby to want to come along, as it'd be the last known location of his now years long lost nephew?
Damn, that's crazy.
EDIT: just wanted to specify that I was referring to the live action Scooby Doo movie
Now that makes since to me!
I think we all should try for some scrappy doo Fanfiction involving rewriting Scrappy do into a charecter we personaly would like better.
I always thought that made more since. it's certainly better than blind stupid hate.
That would've made it so much better!
Scrappy Doo’s personality traits are basically identical to every puppy or small dog I’ve ever met. Enthusiastic, oddly clever, and will pick a fight with anything regardless of its size.
Exactly!
There is a huge difference. Scrappy has won. The small dogs would lose the fights if they came down to it.
Puppies have cute barks and Scrappy’s voice does not help lol
@@user-pj1ec5om5g As an owner of a puppy, the cuteness turns to nails-on-chalkboard pretty quick
Yeah but add on the fact that he’s a bit oblivious to his uncle scoob being a cowered and can be a bit arrogant at times but that’s rare
I'll always remember Billiam's assessment of Scrappy-Doo
It wasn't that he was bad in any way... it was the show that he was in that dragged him down.
Scrappy *a child* was bad because his *adult caretakers* never tried to tell him why his behavior was wrong.
@@dittomaster2141Tbf, was his behavior really that bad in-universe? I don't think so.
@@saltygibus5746It was not
@saltygibus5746 Scrappy's behavior can best be described as "wanting to throw hands with the bad guys," not exactly anything that would be considered "bad"
@@dittomaster2141 he really wasn't that bad...he was just a puppy. I mean we do see that by New Scrappy Mysteries however, that he cooled his jets...probably because he realized something....like maybe on a visit once or twice...Daphne had a chat with him about toning it down?
Scrappy didn't DOO anything wrong
Tell that to all the victims of Scrappy-nomics
scrappyitalism
Yeah he killed HBO Velma.
❤❤ nice
Scrappy Doo secret character class when???
If you asked me Scrappy Doo's personality, I would sum it up in one word... scrappy.
Yeah, he idolizes his uncle, but his main trait is the same one that kinda ticks alot of people off. He acts first, questions later. He's quick to act and in all honesty, I gotta respect that.
It might interest you to know there was a follow-up series that brings Daphne into the mix. In that show, she balances out Scrappy's gung-ho attitude and she's able to hold him back better than the cowardly Scooby and Shaggy, as well as get him to listen when she has a plan. He's also had moments where he gets scared and runs away like everyone else.
He never really pissed people off though. Like maybe Scrappy and Shaggy most by running towards rather than away from the villains, but he's otherwise pretty nice and looks up to the gang. They mostly just recognise and treat him like a child.
@@gota7738 I think they mean audiences. Not in-universe
@@dragon1130 So is Scooby doo’s main personality trait being scooby?
He could easily be an antagonistic force within the team, causing more trouble for the rest of the gang than its worth, then you could make him go through an arc
i talked about a comic book again!
There are Barbie comics. Just saying.
watch the barbie movies because the comment above me reminded me those exist
Bless you
good for you (you are getting more views than the Average comics sells)
Yay 😁
Scrappy wasn’t even really evil in Velma. He only killed a bunch of corrupt government agents and scientists who experimented on and tortured him, and Velma
He also killed the worlds Velma and that’s not a crime he should be praised as a hero
Exactly!
When there's darkness there's light
As quoted from Megamind(the first movie, not the monstrosity that came after it)
Where there is evil, good will prevail.
Velma in that universe is living torture
Paused at 10:33
Scrappy is Brave, Just and lacks foresight. He's a YOUNG, HOT-BLOODED, DOG. He got as excided about mysteries as the other 3 missing characters put together (from his debut) and wore his heart on his sleeve. To be honest, Scrappy's biggest failings can be placed squarely on Scooby and Shaggy. Shaggy offered no real training for him, and Scooby does very little to impart any practical wisdom aside from "be scared of everything" which was counter to his core personality.
I liked Scrappy as a kid because he was a good foil for Scooby. Scooby tries to be scared or run away, Scrappy would mess that plan up and FORCE him to overcome his fear to protect his nephew. I really liked this dynamic because it highlighted how Scooby could be brave not just for food, but for family. It also showed more of the wacky world that Scooby and Shaggy lived in and helped make Scooby stand out less as the only talking animal.
I never understood the Scrappy hate, and I am so glad he got a partial redemption in the apocalypse comic. (Thank you Comics Explained for the awesome review!)
I feel ya bro I loved scrappy as a kid... I was a scooby in real life during my elementary years so I loved ❤ that scrappy who literally had no chance was so brave...
I never knew he wasn't a beloved character he was my favorite character
@@vernonherb Yeah. The joke has run it's course. Let's put some scrappy love back into the franchise!
@@NutronicAtomic Absolutely! I don’t know if it’ll be dealt with in the big vid but I keep thinking it’s what HIMYM explained with the Ewok Line
You guys like him too? Freakin' awesome!
I never understood the scrappy hate either. aLL i EHAR IS PEOPLE blame sCRAPPY for the failure of scooby doo and double down to die on that hill. But as you said it makes more since Scrappy was good for Scooby cause he gave scooby a reason to do mroe than just run but actualy stand up for something other than food but those he cared about and loved. It generaly makes more since to look elsewhere for the cause of the fall. If people are gonna blame the scrappy hate then that technicaly means it's their own fault don't you think? They just stop on scooby because of one little charecter? I don't think Scrappy was ever that annoying and I don't think he squarely can be blamed for stuff like that. because that' justmaking him a scape goat and that's a lazy way of looking at things.
I fully believe Scrappy deserves to be rewritten in ways that is loyal to the scrappy of the orgianal show but make him less annoying but still honor his charecter.
So, as a kid I watched the original episodes when they first came out.
Scrappy Doo was a part of the flanderization* of the characters. Some network executive decided "Hey, let's put kids in kid shows." And that's how we got the various Cousin Olivers.
To make Scrappy a believable villain have him age into becoming a cynical teenager rather than a gullible child. Have him set up mysteries to prove to the world that the idealized version of Scooby he'd had as a child was a complete fake. Disillusionment works as a villain origin story.
*Shaggy started off as a varsity athlete in gymnastics. Freddy started off as a competent leader who let other people shine. Velma had emotional intelligence as well as education and smarts. Daphne was kind as well as brave.
I feel like these days people flanderize them even more now than ever. They make Fred a himbo, Velma insufferable, Daphne gets made to be either shallow or a fighter (things she wasn’t in the original), and they stoop to stoner jokes with Shaggy. I miss the Zombie Island/real monsters quadrilogy era characterization cause they had the same characteristics of the classic stories without dumbing them down.
The idea of aging Scrappy to a teenager just made me think it would be a Scooby version of Quack Pack lmao
Okay, Scrappy was energetic, fearless, naive, loud, stubborn, a bit clueless. I also remember loving the character when he came out. I wasn't alone, he actually wasn't hated till much later on.
@@Kitsunekun2 true. As a kid, I loved him
It was the the dumb Scooby Doo variety hour that did it
It isn't even October and he's still giving us all these Scooby snacks, I will graciously eat this meal, thank you
HOW MANY LETTERS IN OCTOBER ‼️‼️
We're getting to a super sandwich by this point
@@Maniac4Bricks don't pile it too high or you lose your points and have to start over...especially with all the rotten food mixed in with the good stuff when the fridge gets suspended from the ceiling in that game!
NerdSync going from superheroes to Scooby-Doo is my favourite content creator evolution on this platform
Nah, this era is boring. I'm hoping he returns to proper comic videos again, but I like Scott as a person, so I'll continue to stay subbed for that reason.
@@LuxBellator92I must say I'm a bit mystified that you are bored by this story of Scrappy Doo, the science experiment attack dog turned apocalyptic wasteland crusader.
Of all the videos to leave that kind of comment on, this seems the least appropriate
@@noahblack914 I just don't find Scooby Doo or its world interesting, personally.
@@LuxBellator92 I get it. I like Scooby Doo and I like Scott, but when every video is about Scooby Doo it's just not as interesting. Comics and super heroes just have a lot more to cover. I did really enjoy this video though. And I really liked the video covering color theory. But I do wish he'd branch out more often. Even if it isn't back to comics. He's made some really good videos that weren't about comics or Scooby Doo. So more of that would be good too.
After Scoopytopia was cancelled Nerdsync is best Scoobytuber right now
Stop 👏 Making 👏 Scrappy 👏 Doo 👏 The villain
When I was a kid in the 80s I liked scrappy.. I was a scaredy-cat and it was funny and refreshing to see a character so small yet so brave... I never realized back then that ppl found him annoying.. my favorite episode were the ones with him in it becuase he was so brave...
@@vernonherb I don't even think most people found Scrappy annoying. It was just a few people, who held onto that grudge. And then just happened to be in a position to make official Scooby Doo adaptations. In turn retroactively coloring peoples' memories of Scrappy, and creating this _meme_ that he was supremely annoying, and should be villanized because "it would be funny".
It's this hatedom for the character that turned it into a fixture.
And the execs at Warner Bros don't know or care about their own intellectual properties. All they know is this meme that Scrappy is hated, and so give a blanket ban on him appearing in a real, sympathetic fashion. It's why, when the Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo finally got a wrap-up, Scrappy's absence was a mean-spirited punchline.
@@Bluecho4 Someone did a video talking about the fall of Scrappy (don’t remember who, and don’t feel like looking for the video currently).
The reason for Scrappy’s downfall is that, after he saved the franchise from getting stale, the executives kept giving him bigger and bigger roles with less and less of the rest of the cast, eventually culminating with him going around with a knock-off Scooby and Shaggy. Scrappy wasn’t the problem, the execs trying to float the entire Scooby franchise off of Scrappy was the problem, but they conveniently forget the cause of the problem and blame one of the symptoms instead.
@@Bluecho4 Scrolled down a little further in the comments and found the answer on who made the video: Billiam.
@@aqwkingchampion13 I am familiar with Billiam and his dissertation on Scrappy Doo, yes. Good stuff.
I’d rather they redeem Scrappy instead of constantly playing off the “everybody hates Scrappy” memes. Honestly, he’s only annoying in the first Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo show (the one where they did the Three Stooges like stories with Scooby, Shaggy and Scrappy.). The 3 tv specials, and the subsequent shows with Scrappy, he’s actually fine.
That's what I've always thought. I never understood the Scrappy hate when I was a kid, because his early shows weren't being rerun then. I only had him in 13 Ghosts and those (awesome and icon) tv movies. And he was great in those! After finally seeing his early work, with that annoying Brooklyn accent, and a lot less brains...yeah, I get it. But his character was quickly rewritten to be better. It's so odd that the hate from those early, mostly forgotten shows has stuck around, even though, at this point, I think most people have only really seen him in those three movies.
It would have made more sense to have the live action movie's villian be Scoobi-Dum. You could totally see him trying to help the gang out by proving monsters are real, by making monsters real without realizing the problems that would cause
@@BlUsKrEEm you know what, that would have actually been hilarious. It’s fun because they do set up that idea in the film, Scrappy wants to fight the monsters and the gang keep telling him that they don’t exist. So maybe that’s his motivation, he just wants to prove that they are real, but he’s got in over his head and realises that he’s too small to actually fight them so needs to perform the ritual to make himself big enough to actually fight them. His motive is noble, but he’s an idiot so he doesn’t realise he's just making things worse.
I always forget that Scooby Dum exists. Do they even bring him up anymore? I could imagine someone writing a decent villain story about him feeling left out.
true. Plus remember that the villian ofthis move was kind of planning to sort of change people;s personalities to be more chill. Conisdering that Scrappy was kicked out and mistreated by the mytory gang, especialy afteer the uninating incident, it made since he felt not only abandoned but would desire to change the world for delusional reasons. Scooby Dumb however I could picture him also having good ententions that are greatly misguided. Making him more of an ironic villian and having the cast be more sympathetic for the villian would also gave them more of a personal class rather than being stereotypes.
@@intergalactic92 Don't say stupid things.
Your description of Scrappy gave me another good way to make him the villian more based in the series "lore". Simply have scrappy realize that scooby isn't as brave as he thought he was. This could have been the gang's last case where Scrappy gets captured or put in danger, he's not afraid because his uncle scoob is there to save him. However Scoob's own cawardice gets the better of him and he fails to save him. The gang think they lost scrappy and break things off. Years later they are brought together again my a mysterious figure, we slowly find out what happened to drive them apart as they face new dangers and again Scrappy is revealed as the antagonist fueled by abondonment by the gang. The gang has no choice but to defeat him as scrappy's plans fall apart and he once again is put in a similiar dangerous scenario. This time Scoob has learned to overcome his fear and save him, the two have a moment where they both awknowledge their faults and come to a better understanding, maybe scrappy did all this to help scooby become brave or just realizes he has gone too far. We end with the gang fully reunited Scrappy in toe, maybe Scrappy needs some time before he can be back fully with the mystery gang but in this moment; they are a family again.
When I think of Scrappy's main traits, he is a kid whose not afraid of the monsters like his Uncle Scoob is, but yet he still admires his uncle like a young child would if they heard the tales of their relative going on these grand mysteries. Also, he is always wants to help out those with trouble as seen in the Shaggy and Scooby Meet movies series.
The kid is a bit much in his personality, but that is just how some young kids are and while I think there wasn't anything plan for this character from the start, I think at most he is someone who wants to have and fun and go on adventure with his hero Scooby Doo and become who he thinks Scooby can be, even at his most cowardly.
Hopefully one day, there can be a series that can showcase the good of Scrappy and not just some old shame that really wasn't the worst of what Scooby did back in the day.
Scooby Apocalypse is the adult version of Scooby-Doo we need to see in film or on TV
I'm surprised no one has tried to adapt it yet.
@@MegaMagicdog problably because is too different from what the franchise normally looks
Yup.
Part of why kid me loved the Ghoul School special so much was because of Scrappy. Hes excited about the mysteries and forces Scooby to face the threats instead of running. Hes acts like a puppy and saved the franchise back in the day
I have always always thought that an animated stylized Scooby Doo apocalypse film would be incredible, and could finally serve as a solution to Scrappy’s reputation problem
Scrappy is hardheaded. Dude tries to take on monsters 3 times his size no matter how many people tell him to sit down. Sometimes it is about the size of the dog and not just about the size of the fight in him.
Scrappys traits?
Confident, Courageous and Loyal!
Love this Pup!❤
Basically, if an executive told me to make Scrappy an antagonist or villain in my Scooby series. I’d tell that guy to go EFF themselves. Scrappy did NOTHING WRONG. He is a precious pup and must be protected at all costs. He’s everything you just mentioned him as. At the heart of it all, he’s a kid who is learning what it takes to be a great sleuth and solve spooky mysteries. It’s Scrappy that needs to learn when to be brave and when to retreat, it’s him who needs to learn that not every problem can be solved by picking fights and looking for trouble. My ideal Scrappy would be sort of a reoccurring friendly rival for the Mystery gang. Solving mysteries by himself or with them. He’d be a bit older, roughly around the age of a pre-teen, 12 years old (which is odd when his uncle is supposed to be 7 in human years) to be exact. And he’d also be seen around in Coolsville, writing stories as an undercover supernatural/paranormal journalist for his blog that focuses on spooky supernatural mysteries, legends, and recent mysteries that are going on and need to be solved or have been solved.
Agreed 💯 percent
Before even digesting thumbnails or anything just the statement "There's a better way to make Scrappy evil" immediately made me go to the Scooby Apocalypse comic and Im glad I was on the same page as you. Its a shame some people I know wrote it off as being Too Edgy at a glance.
Stopped at 10:34, question "What do you think the character of Scrappy Doo is like?"
When I was a kid thirty years ago, I loved Scrappy. I never saw the gang as "kids" proper, (even 16 year olds were like adults to a little kid) so I liked there being an actual little kid. And Scrappy wasn't just a little kid in distress the adults had to save; he was useful, even essential! I didn't see him as that much more reckless those meddling kids who couldn't wait to go into clearly haunted houses. Scrappy was brave, intelligent, quick-witted, and he always supported his Uncle Scooby. I loved their relationship; even when Scoob was freaking out, he remembered to take care of Scrappy first. I guess the whole Scrappy Doo hate went over my head or something, or maybe the people who hated Scrappy weren't the ones intended to sympathize with him.
The people behind "Be cool scooby doo" had plans to bring Scrappy back and they were gonna write him in a way that would probably make people like him more
That would have been so cool. I want to see Scrappy get adapted in earnest with positive characterization.
It sucks that in most recent media Scrappy is usually the villain. I remember really enjoying Scrappy the first time I saw him.
I feel like so many people are unaware of Scooby Apocolypse, but I'm glad it was part of this video. Personally, I feel like it's a very different vibe, but it understands scooby doo as a whole, which is what makes it so good for diehard scooby doo fans like myself. I appreciate all the nuance brought into this discussion! Great video!
I never felt Scrappy was annoying, and personally, I like Scrappy. Justice for Scrappy-Doo!
Scrappy is a HERO. Plain and simple.
Scrappy doesn’t need to be Evil 😭😭😭😭
Scrappy-Doo deserves redemption!
You cannot change my mind!
A better way to make Scrappy a villian is to use his admiration of Scooby... Scrappy knows Scooby's cowardly so he gives him opportunities to be brave... he's been behind every villian all along because he loves his uncle scooby and wants him to see himself the way Scrappy sees him.
Ppl who dismiss Scrappy as just an annoying little dog clearly never owned one themselves. My puppy is a hyper protective emotive playful Husky… and I love her for it! She’s the real life Scrappy Dooby Doo!
10:00 Scrappy Do's personality before the movie was always that he was Scrappy and itching to fight (Its his name) he admires his uncle Scooby. He is energetic and always trying to solve problems.
I like Scrappy. He was never the core of the issue.
10:29 Writing for the Pop Quiz before watching the rest of the vid:
From memory, Scrappy is seemingly oblivious to danger(makes sense, he’s a puppy), eager and brave(bordering on overconfident) for his small size compared to Scooby, and is mostly friendly to those he meets. He’s basically an excitable kid that would be way in over his head in any other show.
scrappy is tenacious, fearless, loyal, he was a good dog for a long time
Paused the video at Pup Quiz.
Scrappy character traits.
1. Loud.
2. Over confident.
3. Takes on challenges he could never win. Though I feel that is just over confident.
4. Energetic.
As far as the original cartoon? (Responding to the pause) Scrappy was:
Brave
Energetic
Enthusiastic
Encouraging
Naive
Stubborn
Foolish
He literally filled the void that the rest of the gang left when the show moved away from them.
If Shaggy and Scooby were on their own, as they were after Where Are You, they wouldn't get anything done.
Scrappy was there to push them to do things.
Now I just want a scooby doo show where scrappy has all the weird johnny test spy thriller stuff they made up for get a clue. Making him some weird bio experiment by shaggys rich inventor uncle that has this goofy rogues gallery which is why the more grounded stuff flys over his head
When I was young I actually dug Scrappy. Basically anytime they visited Scooby's extended family I enjoyed it. As an adult I don't feel strongly towards Scrappy either way, but I was surprised by the hatred against him.
Same, as a kid I kinda liked him. He wasn’t my favorite, from what i can remember, but I didn’t get it when my cousins said they hated him
I'm doing that new CZcams thumbnail testing, so if you see this let me know what thumbnail you saw. I'm curious lol
I saw the red eyed scrappy that says “fine”
I got the red eye Scrappy with 'fine.' on it!
I saw the same one [red-eyed scrappy with 'fine.'] but imo you could get a better thumbnail for the video.
@@NerdSyncProductions “we can stop now”
I didn't even see a thumbnail I just clicked the notif when I saw it 😭😭😭
I was a fan of Scooby Doo since it started, but I wouldn't call him a coward. Sure he, (and Shaggy) let fear get the better of him (them), but when push came to shove he was there. It reminds me of Bob Hope in his movie "Ghost Breakers". He called it one of his favorites, because even though his character seemed cowardly, when danger threatened, he didn't hide behind the damsel, but rather stood between her and it.
As always thank you so very much for the videos.
And Scott, I really appreciate you. You are NOT annoying.
Plus I sympathize with your frustration with wires and tech. In hindsight I laugh: I remember when the VHS was the size of a dresser. Then later on I had to help my dad figure out the connections: Which was weird because the big VHS was at his work in the 60s, a company called Ampex. And now I call on my kids to help me with the wiring, and watch Scooby Doo videos (original cartoon series) with my grands.
At the part where you asked about what Scrappy's character traits are, and -- not knowing where you might take this yet -- I had a thought:
There might be a way to make Scrappy a villain, by way of having him discover how scared and bumbling Scooby is and feeling completely betrayed by it ("you let me believe you were different" "everyone needs to know you're a liar" or "did everyone know but me? I need to prove I don't need to be like him." Etc.)
Though, even this seems like a TV movie/extended episode, at best.
Scrappy learns it's okay to be scared and okay to look up to Scooby, nobody's perfect, that's not a reflection on you, and everyone just needs to try their best, etc., etc.
Not theatrical, nostalgia IP movie release material.
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I always viewed Scrappy as being the "Carlton" of the group. Annoying, relatively harmless, well-meaning, sidekick.
Never worth a full villain treatment.
Also while I’m here, i just wanted to say that I see that fucking “purple is a fall color” meme EVERY YEAR SINCE ITS BEEN POSTED and ive also been subscribed to this channel for years and somehow i never knew you were behind that so i literally lost my shit when I watched ur other video 😭
I had an idea where you could go a Jason Tod/d/ Winter Soldier route where Scrappy himself, but survived. He ends up getting amnesia and forgot who he was.
Some evil dude or whatever gets a hold of him, and brainwashed him into hating the gang, and youd have an emotional arc where Scooby would have to remind Scrabby who he is
Scrappy-Doo doesn't deserve it be evil. He should be redeemed.
The most "annoying" thing about Scrappy, I think, is the recent tendency in the Scooby-Doo franchise to try and reinvent him as a villain. Even Scooby Apocalypse, while I agree it's the best attempt, had me rolling my eyes at being yet another attempt to turn one of my favorite Scooby-Doo characters into an antagonist. And it still ticks me off that Curse of the 13th Ghost, the _one_ recent Scooby-Doo work which tried to bring him back, as a good guy... ended up needing to cut him so the story/cast wouldn't be so overly cluttered. But hey, on the bright side, at least we got a Flim-Flam redemption?
scrappy doo always felt like that classic cartoon character that's always ready to throw a punch "Let me at em!" and his fists are flying kinda thing. XD
Back in the day when no cartoon could throw a punch (not even the super heroes!), Scrappy was making the gestures!
For Pup Quiz, as someone who watched a lot of the series with him as a cast member I would say 3 traits he has was Loyal to his friends. Brave beyond his means. Positive to a fault.
I remember being so angry when I first saw the live action Scooby Doo movie as a kid because I was like "SCRAPPY WOULD NEVER HURT HIS UNCLE SCOOBY!"
If Zaslav came onto my set and told me to make Scrappy the villain, I’d tell him to piss off
@@Raichous If Zaslav came anywhere within my field of vision, I would tell him to piss off no matter what.
Scrappy I always that was a just a kid and he was surrounded by role models who didn't know how to raise him (When it was Shaggy and Scooby), but he got better when Daphne came into the picture. I feel like people need to watch 13 Ghosts or the Ghouls School to see Scrappy in a positive light.
scrappy has the personality of every adorably bitey puppy ive seen in my life. scrappy's my boy, and he's the best boy!
Or, we could just not make Scrappy evil and rework him so that he fits as part of Mystery Inc.? Pair him up with Velma as the intellectuals, make Fred and Daphne the romantic adventurers, and keep Shaggy and Scooby the comedic relief. It’ll work.
I think one of the most grating things about Scrappy is that he sounds like a fully grown man doing a cutesy voice. I feel like if they actually made him sound like a kid he'd be a lot more bearable.
I'd say the first season (Lennie Weinrib) was lke that (and yes, it was ill fitting. The same thing happened later when he tried to voice young Fred Flintstone), but the Don Messick voice did sound more like a kid (identical to Snap of Rice Krispies).
Honestly, I love Scrappy-Doo!❤ I was never on the bandwagon with all the hate he's been getting and how he's been dragged to be in a villain. If anything, I don't blame him for snapping at people for all this backlash he's received! (Anybody remember that cartoon Network commercial where he told off all the new stars and called out Dexter "You are a genius! How'd to figure that out?!"😂😂 I feel that I frustrated hate, Scrap!) Always preffered a brave, confident little puppy with more courage than his cowardly Great Dane uncle any day! This may add why I prefferred A pup named Scooby-Doo so much over his original!😂
I remember reading the comic when it finished, scrappy was one of my favorite character in the series, he had a lot good moments with Daphne and that kid with one arm (forgot his name)that made him feel endearing by the end.
But why Scott?! Why does he need to be evil?! WHY?!?
Scrappy Was the first time I realise cartoons could have elements people didn't like. I genuinely thought if it was part of the show it must be good. Kinda blew my mind.
scrappy was my favorite scooby-doo character from like 1999-2003ish
The last person I talked to who blindly hated Scrappy Doo was a big believer in eugenics. So I just use "So how do you feel about Scrappy Doo?" and other commonly villainized and victim blamed characters just to get an idea if I should not interact with these people.
Technically you’d think he’d like Scrappy since he’s more evolved than Scooby. Walks on two legs, speaks more competently, is a tough guard dog.
I didnt even know people hated Scrappy
I love scrappy doo so much. He was a huge part of my childhood, and to see him done wrong time and time again hurts. Same with one of my other favorite characters, Hank pym, who was also turned into a villain. Both can't catch a break and are treated unfairly.
Scrappy’s main character trait is organizing arms deals
24:20 Of course it's from Clownfish TV... That's the kind of headline I can see them writing for one of their CZcams videos.
when u were like "he was still, at the end of the day..." and paused for dramatic effect i accidentally leaned on my keyboard and so the dramatic pause just lingered and lingered and lingered and honestly i just want you to know i was captivated enough to wait like 20 whole seconds for you to drop the hardest line in youtube history
Flim Flam is a far worse character (and was more hated during his initial run) and he got a redemption arc
who ever was responsible for the ret con trilogy needs to be fired! out of a cannon! Vincent using PROPS?! No Weer and Bogle?! but a grown up FlimFlam?! whose the only one who even mentions mah boy Scrappy?!
@@foolserrand-lu7ym that was meddling execs. Sheridan was fully wanting to play by the 13 Ghosts rules...but WB has a "If Velma isn't right, we don't want it" mentality.
5:04 Man that…makes so much sense when you think about the film in hindsight.
Lot of build up that goes fcking nowhere…😅😅😅
Pup Quiz Answer: Scrappy Doo is A Child.
Not just in the sense that he's a puppy, but that the behaviours that define him; the fact that he thinks he's invincible and his blind idolisation of his elders, are traits most strongly associated with childhood.
The gang more or less treat him as they would a young child and when he does mess things up (which I don't recall even happening as often as people say) they just explain why that was the wrong thing to do, and he listens to them. There's no "Scrappy tries to prove that he's not just a kid" episode, since Scrappy isn't really written as old enough to even recognise that.
I think Billiam made a good point in his reviews that the 'Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo' era where Scrappy is at his most objectionable, makes Shaggy and Scooby look just as bad since they come off as careless guardians, behaving irresponsibly around him and not treating him as the child he's still otherwise written as.
When Daphne returns into the dynamic, it smoothens out again, since Scrappy is split up with her much more and becomes like, her little sidekick. Even in the Red Shirt Trilogy where Shaggy and Scooby are much less jerkish than their gangless episodes, Scrappy is written at some of his most level headedness.
P.S I liked how in Apocalypse, Daphne and Scrappy have a significant dynamic, and she's the one he respects most. It feels like a cute callout to those episodes of the show.
I'm so tired of Scrappy being a villain. Problem is that people seem to be stuck in this mindset of Scrappy being annoying...
I'm going to be honest, if Scrappy's appearance in HBO's Velma ends up triggering a great redemption of the character, that would be the funniest thing to ever come out of that disaster of a show. XD
James Gunn at 3:19 looks older than he does now
This was a fun video; thanks for reminding me of that comic. Yeah, I never really bought into the Scrappy hate, so seeing it analyzed this way was interesting.
Speaking of analyzing things, the bit starting at 20:07 about how he isn't very successful at fighting the monsters has me thinking. The largest reason he doesn't is because he's pulled back from attacking, but what if he wasn't? He does have a few feats of strength and most of the monsters he threatened to splat are just normal humans so--could he have taken them? Given what abilities they see the monsters display, is there really reason to fear Scrappy losing the fight? Yeah, I *do* get them pulling him back: on a watsonian level he's a little kid and they're worried he'll get hurt even if he wins and on a doylist level this was the era of cartoons where you couldn't show someone getting punched. Still, interesting to consider what his win-loss ratio would've been if he'd been allowed to actually unleash the puppy power.
13:58 haha comedic gold. That time period was around the time I found your content. Was nostalgic so see you talking about comics again. Hope you're doing well man! love to see it 😄
I feel like Scrappy could possibly be a 5th dimensional imp, like Mxyzptlk, and is just a huge fan of Scooby. So he’s self inserted himself into Scooby’s life. Cuz he calls him Uncle Scooby, but who’s his parent? Scooby never mentions his brother or sister that is Scrappy’s parent, as far as I can remember.
We do get to see his mother, Ruby Doo. I think in an episode of The Scooby Doo Show?
*correct answer to a trivia question noises*
That's the approach that Mystery Inc should have taken, since talking animals are connected to interdimensional beings.
So, really the Bat-Mite of the Scoobiverse. (Of course, they've met Batman so probably Bat-Mite also exists!)
We see Scrappy’s mom. She’s Scooby’s sister. There’s a flashback to baby Scrappy.
If you want to do Scrappy as the villain and stay true to his character, there's a very simple way to go about it. Have him be the main bad guy with good intentions at heart. He's idolizes Scooby-Doo, his uncle. He views him as brave and fearless and gives him personally all the credit for Mystery Inc's numerous solved monster cases. Let's say that someone at some point who knows about Scooby tells Scrappy that his uncle is actually a coward who runs away from monsters rather than how Scrappy views him. Scrappy doesn't believe them. He's adamant about it. He knows throughout every fiber of his being that the pedestal he puts his uncle up onto is deserved, and he's determined to prove it. There's your motivation. He hatches up a scheme and does something to lure Mystery Inc in so that he can prove once and for all that Scooby-Doo is every bit as brave and fearless as he thinks he is.
Honestly, I do give the film credit for getting at least one thing right about Scrappy. He's a child prodigy in later incarnations, so he would absolutely have the knowledge to build a realistic animatronic suit that he could hide in.
Scrappy is definitely overly brave, confident to a point of stupidity, aggressive
Seeing as how Velma tried to mimic the greatness of other media like Spiderverse while completely failing to understand why it worked, I wouldn't be too surprised if that version of Scrappy doo was influenced by Big Jack Horner. It makes more sense the more you think about it.
You never know what to expect, rather it makes sense or not
I remembered scrappy being a cute quirky sidekick growing up I didn’t know he was a villain until more recently
I genuinely love that this has become The Scooby Doo Channel now.
*Reads title, slowly puts down my IDW Scooby Doo I was refreshing myself on* I'm listening 👂🏾👂🏾
Frankly, much like with the deluge of "Evil Supermen," villifying Scrappy Doo is overdone... The most subversive thing you can do now is play him straight...
Already watched the video, here's his summary:
> Scrappy becomes animator
> Makes scooba-gang into inflation art.
> Pops them.
> That's it. That's the whole video essay.
Theres a reason you're one of my favorite content creators on this platform and this video perfectly shows off why, you're able to look at things in such and interesting and nuanced way and show off how expertly certain aspects of a franchise you clearly care about a ton are capable of telling some of the most interesting stories, I'd never heard of Scooby Apocalypse before this video, but the way you explained it and showed how Scrappy is portrayed made me want to actively go and buy a copy of it to read it for myself
When I was a kid, Scrappy was actually my favorite 😂 Probably had more to do with my age and when I started watching Scooby Doo than anything else. I think I just naturally liked him because he was a puppy, and my toddler brain really liked puppies. Still wild to me how much everyone else hates him though.
I feel like making Scrappy the villain is done more for the meme rather than an interesting narrative decision, which is frustrating. I do like what the comic adaptation did though, it made him believable (well as believable as a genetic modified monster eating dog can get lol)
So glad to see you bring Scooby Apocalypse into the limelight!
I was visiting this girl that I was dating at the time. While in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet, I noticed the first issue of Scooby Apocalypse lying on the sink with other reading material. I can't call myself a big Scooby Doo fan considering the amount of Scooby Doo content there is that I haven't gotten the chance to consume yet, but I really do love the character.
I grew up with "What's New Scooby Doo", the TV Show with a rocking intro, and that too had its own comic series that I used to buy at the store. I even still have a Scooby Doo toothbrush that I got from one of the issues (I'm not still using it of course). I love Mystery Inc and rewatches it from time to time. I watched the original show whenever it had re-runs, usually late at night for some reason and I had to watch it with subtitles as it wasn't dubbed to Norwegian. I feel like I'm the only one who remembers "The 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo". My mom knew how much I loved Scooby that she bought the James Gunn movie on VHS, but then she noticed that it had an 11 age rating so I couldn't watch it for years. When I turned 11, it was the first movie I watched and I loved that too even though I was mainly confused.
All of those memories came back as I saw that comic issue. Scooby Doo, reimagined as something more adult, futuristic and apocalyptic? The gang facing genuine monsters that could kill them? I was intrigued and thus I ended up reading that entire issue while in the bathroom. It wasn't until I finished that I realized that I've now spent 30-40 minutes in the bathroom when I'm supposed to be on a date.
While she and me didn't last long, my love for this comic series did. I bought the issues shortly after reading the first issue and I'm so grateful for this comic series to remind me why I love Scooby Doo so much. Because despite being reimagined in a completely different world with a completely different tone, it still felt so genuinely true to Scooby Doo in a lot of ways. You can tell the writers understood the source material and just wanted to see what unique fun things they could do with it. Very good read, I recommend it to everyone.
I just want to preface by saying that as a kid Scrappy and Yabba (in the, like, two episodes I saw he was in) were my favorites, mainly because they were the ones to run towards potential danger rather than away from it. But what I actually want to mention is that in the original, it shows that it's actually SCOOBY who's the outlier in human-ness in his family, and even other dogs. In that he seems to be one of the few with speech issues (Scrappy's friends are just as articulate as him, the siblings and cousins can speak perfectly but all with different accents (yes, even Scooby Dum, who has a 'hillbilly' accent)) until "What's New, Scooby Doo?". And it always seems bipedal vs. quadruped to be by choice, or as they grow it just becomes too hard for a Great Dane to maintain being bipedal outside of short times (I forget the name of the episode, but it's the one with a magician dressed as a classic ghost that can walk through walls via pepper's ghost where Fred tells Scooby to think 'John Wayne' and he spends the next scene completely bipedal. I know there's others but I'm not about to watch every episode of a 50-year-old cartoon).
Scrappy's motivation for taking over the world might be ill-explained, but I don't quite agree that the army of monsters are unjustified in the final film.
They capture people to harvest the souls that Scrappy needs, and get human bodies that protect them from the sun as a result. Mutually beneficial.
yeah can we just STOP making Scrappy the villain because a few incel like Gen Xers didn’t like him. it’s so tiresome at this point. he’s the reason, Scooby Doo is still around and not a fad of the 70s like The Six Million Dollar Man
A hill I will die on, give the pup a second chance. He's suffered enough.
He starts by hero worshiped his uncle. And then adds on elements of the other characters when they disappear.
I’ve been thinking these past couple years about a possible reintroduction of Scrappy into the franchise.
Change up his body a bit so he looks like an ACTUAL DOG instead of “head with tiny body” design going on here. More importantly, make him even more scared of monsters and spooky stuff than his uncle. Make him a character who actually looks up to his uncle’s courage to make himself be courageous.
It’s the most relatable and wholesome thing you can have for the character.
It's the Pokemon problem.... The mammal based ones that go bipedal are always kinda weird
While I do think it would be awesome to see Scrappy Doo return and be given a good faith writer that will make him endearing for new people, I HAVE to disagree with your idea on the grounds that I think it sounds like making Scrappy Doo not be, well, Scrappy Doo. I disagree with the idea that the same character couldn't work even if they wrote him with the same exact traits but just given better writing. I mean, most of the actual reason people hate Scrappy is because of the times where he was literally written out of character on purpose by people who despised the character. If he was written by someone who had some degree of appreciation for his character, the same traits could be given a lot of consideration instead of constant mockery and him acting like an asshole for no reason other than the writers hate him.
@@friendbreakfast Maybe you’re right, but the Scrappy well has been so thoroughly poisoned now that trying to stay super faithful to his “original character” might just not be received by audiences that well.
It should, but I guess I just don’t see the writers going that route.
That kind of misses the point of Scrappy. He was always being to be the opposite of Scooby in every way possible.
@@matti.8465 And how well did that work out in the long run??? 😅😅😅
Scott, I have commented this on a few of your videos, but I want to reiterate : thank you so much for the videos you create. They get me through so much, my genuine comfort channel. My fiancé just lost her job but once she starts working I will be paying for your NEBULA.
Hell yah ive been waiting for a Scooby Apoclypse vid!!