Reginald Hargreeves Origin - Manipulative Interdimensional Father Of Umbrella Academy's Gifted Kids
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2022
- All of you who watch The Umbrella Academy must be aware by now that season three has hit Netflix and everyone is busy binge-watching it. The Umbrellas are back, and there is a new group of heroes, called The Sparrows - there is a lot going on in this time-travel science fiction fantasy series. Everyone is clamoring to know all about the new heroes and their powers and how the old gang is doing, but there is another extremely important character in this show. One without whom neither of these superhero groups would ever exist - you guessed it, Sir Reginald Hargreeves. Ever wondered where he came from, why he adopted those children and what his role is in the show? Well, this video is all about him - The Father of The Umbrellas! (Caution: Spoilers Ahead!)
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He restarted the universe to save the person he loves. This is why killing anyone didn't matter to him since those people will come back.
You meant nox from wakfu ?
Without powers
And his save everyone
@@gdevache7693 lol good ref
@@gdevache7693 FR
Best written character on the show. Cant believe he had me convinced that he turned good, specially with all the cute moments he had with Klaus. Jumped out my bed when he killed Luther
oh my god same! i actually felt bad for him when luther didnt want him to be invited to the wedding
Really? I new he was an alien from the first episode.
Then there's several hints to his alien body in a few episodes spread throughout
Omg, i can't believe anyone could be fooled by him, it was so obvious he was pretending to yet again get what he wants 🙄
@@unvaccinatedstraightguy5327 im not talking about him being an alien, they showed that in the first pages of the comic
@@lishan4657 not everyone is sherlock like you dude no reason to have an attitude lol
Reg had never bonded with the Umbrellas or Sparrows because they were raised to be sacrifices. The children were just a means to get the outcome he wanted!
That and both he and his wife were alien, so they don't understand the human concept of affection very well
Even if all the children die in attaining his goal, the universe would restart so they would all come back to life
To describe Reginald, it would be, "He can't save humanity, not because he's not a human, but because he doesn't understand humanity itself." One of the reason why I found Reginald's character interesting because of how despite him being one of the most smartest beings in the universe AND despite having some emotions aside from cold calculated logic, such as anger, grief, and love for his girlfriend Grace, he lacked the most important emotion: Empathy. He failed both the Umbrellas and the Sparrows because of his lack of empathy toward his adoptive children. Had he possessed empathy to have Vanya control her powers instead of having Allison erasing her memories, or console his children to properly grieve Ben when he died instead of blaming them of their failures, had he just simply be more understanding of his children's emotions, the Umbrella Academy could've been the world's greatest superheroes, and possibly have prevented the apocalypse.
He has emotions like anger, frustration, irritation, he also loves and griefs his partner.
@@katybee3891 My mistake, I meant empathy and parental love.
@@katybee3891 Of course, being alien, we don't really know how he felt about his partner. It could be that she was just the one he most respected and admired as his intellectual equal or something rather than true love.
@@eugenestevenkong9430 I think it's more along the line of he only ever really saw them as tools for his ultimate goal. He knew the dofficult task they would ultimately have to face and the pain they would experience (possibly even death) to reset the universe. He's extremely well written since we never truly know how he feels, some moments it feels like he does have some form of love or admiration for his children and other moments he has shown himself to be cold and calculated and will kill anyone if necessary to achieve his ultimate goal
Nah he does have feelings most are for personal concerns.
All timelines show that Reginald is a cold father, a user and manipulator. He doesn’t care if many die to reach his own goal. The children finds it weird he is cold and distant.. and the answer is .. he can’t bond with the children because he isn’t human. He doesn’t understand what a human is.. that’s why Reggie is more close to an animal Pogo and the robot Grace.
I started piecing it together he wasn’t really human and was super cold towards his children. Now I know they aren’t like his real own kids and all that he simply took them. Dudes a straight ass!
I can't say that he doesn't really has a human kind that capable to "LOVE" because as you can see at the end he is with his wife holding hands..he might just use his children just to be with his wife....but the conclusion is he still has a human kind after all...
Sounds like a certain people. 🤨🤔
His kill himself for unity ...you forget????
Extremeeeelyyyyy moronic statement. He LITERALLY reset the universe to save his wife, because he loved her. Thats not animalistic behavior. He isnt inhuman in his emotions, he isnt a robot or an animal. He indeed did not emotionally invest in his children but not because he is incapable, but he was already burden with heavier attatchments. All these are human qualities.
*It's about time, we just admit how good a dad, Professor Xavier truly is!*
After what Klaus uncovered, Prof X, is one of the Best
Most definitely.
You must not know how bad prof x was
@@jermaineharvey7754 I know how bad, bad writers want us to believe he is..... Or was.
Reggie didn't want to stop the apocalypse in season 1 to save the world he just wanted to keep his wife's body intact and his access to the machine
Don't skirt around the point The reason he had them change time was because there wasn't enough children to activate the universe altering machine. The reason he didn't in the second version of the timeline besides being drugged was that there was more children coming so he didn't have to worry about micromanaging them.
You trying to make it sound like there was some level of altruism here but in the end the only reason a version of him died was because his goal was out of reach in that reality. At least as far as the Netflix version goes
Why didnt he try and find the other 41 children
Yes. Also we don’t know if he was truly dead in that reality either. Question is. This end of worlds that happens. Was they planned by him with end goal to ge able to access the machine where he could reset the universe. Not really because it was about to end but to set it as he wanted it.
@@notme8652 they needed to be strong enough to kill the guardians. He probably would have just used them sacrifices if the mercenaries had worked out unfortunately that wasn't the case.
That said they're so nebulous about the other children that they probably were either disappeared by governments or or taken out by the umbrellas since it never seems to be an option at least as far the show is concerned.
Wrong
I’m seriously confused as to why Alphonso, Jayme and Christopher essentially bullied Reginald, whereas Ben and Fei appeared to respect him. Was he faking being weak, or did he conduct this mastermind plan after he got off the meds?
I feel like the plan was always there. What went "off script" was Pogo getting attached to the sparrows to a point of standing up to Reggie. Pogo knew about the plan, because we've seen Reggie trust him and like him more than his kids. So Pogo gave the sparrows the pills to keep them safe. Once Klaus got him off the pills and educated him about his mistakes, he simply adjusted his plan to work with whatever members were left. I feel like the angle of sparrows "bullying" Reggie feels much more menacing without the context we just didn't have at that point in the show
I believe the meds were used to keep him from remembering Project Oblivion. That’s why Sloane was shocked when they took him off the meds.
@@_moegreen5770 so the medicine is all about to forget his project?
I think the pills clouded his mind and kept him from his ability to manipulate, probably his strongest power in regards to them. They had to sneak them in on him because they never could have confronted him to his face, regardless of their powers. He would have just talked them out of it. As soon as he was off them, they were right back to doing what he wanted.
@@zeusbmasalunga9455 I believe it was. Because Pogo gave them some type of meds before he was fired
bro i feel fucking bad that i actually got pissed at five for thinking that reggie being nice was shady 😭 then he was actually right and i felt like i was stabbed in the back during that luther moment in the room
I think you made a mistake. He came to the America’s much before 1928 as was literally there when New York was made. He found a portal to another dimension on earth in 1918. Not sure when he arrived on earth but he must’ve been there before 1928.
Well season 4 can’t come fast enough
Literally
@@DAWAXFAX oh especially with what happened and number 3
@@ZephyrBW ikr sad betrayed her fam for her daughter basically fam over fam but the thing that got me is the Dr. Killed Luther like that and it's sad how they showed him on the moon stranded alone all for his father to kill him 😤
@@DAWAXFAX he know everything would be fine, when his Plan succssed
@@cdoc1388 I guess Luther did come back in the end but where is Sloane 's family(sparrows)
Old number 5 was right when he was talking to himself. "Whatever you do, don't save the world!"
This is where I find a lot of mystery. In what timeline did he find the time agency, will he still do so, and if so, why did he play it all like he played it--working to ensure that the apocalypse happened, waiting so long to recruit himself, etc. He'll definitely have an interesting arc in season 4.
@@NekoMouser yeah i agree. I hope season 4 will come very soon.
Out of time
This season has been a curious beast for me. As always I enjoy the spectacle, the visual ideas, the moment-to-moment sibling interactions, and each episode in itself is as sparky and fun as ever. But taken as a whole I felt the back half dragged. And had I not binged, I'm not sure I'd have found the finale much of a payoff for sticking with things. As it is I'm in it for the long haul, I just hope the series makes it all the way. I'm more concerned about those prospects than I was after series 2.
Season 3 was indeed the weakest season. Hopefully season 4 will show the origins of Reginald Hargreeves
The episode with Klaus training was the best though.
@@IvoryOasis I don't like Klauss but his training was indeed the best moment in season 3. It was truly great like you said.
I’m kind of tired of every season being an apocalypse caused by the umbrellas story. I’m not into the comics but the hotel storing super villains would’ve been a nice change in the general plot
I think Reginald is 20 steps ahead. Everything is planned, even when it seems like it's against his interest. They stopped 2 apocalypses... I won't talk about season 3.
As in Reginalds actions DID save the world.
Yeah he does seem to be incredibly smart, I highly doubt we've seen the last of him and his schemes.
What’s wrong with season 3 besides Viktor?
@@schoolofdank5736 It felt very much unlike the first 2 seasons...at least tonally and the sub plots were very all over the place...only five's arc was good (as always) and the season got stable again in the last few episodes
@@sampritmukhopadhyay3002 i would argue Klaus's arc was also very good. But i agree season 3 was all over the place. They needed to split it into two seasons and add some more events/drama to give real reasons behind actions. Both families were making conflicting decisions every other epsiode. Luther marriage could have even worked if it were a two-season long romance.
love all the seasons' stories... but i hate the constant unanswered questions. No full context is ever given. Always more questions arise for each taste of an answer given. Always a huge cliffhanger. Never any sort of resolution; never any time to breathe. Them breaking up and going their separate ways AGAIN at the end of S3 is so dumb because they write these characters as if they never learn that the best option is to stick together and learn the secrets faster, instead of separately learning the new timeline's mysteries in pieces and putting them together when it's too late. They've done the whole "go our separate ways"/"split up" motif that now it's getting old and annoying. Just give us some real answers and resolution for once.
exactly!!!
Very well put
Right I'm tired of the theories just give us the answers and end the damn show already they are just dragging it now
Also in the reset timeline they don't have their powers. Why would they lose their powers?
best way to sum up how i feel
It's really hard to explain to children why you're telling them to do what they have to do. The path of least resistance (which is what you would take if you had an apocalyptic time limit) is to manipulate them. And if he thought he needed them to be selfless heroes, he wouldn't want them to identify as an individual. People who do evil shit almost always convince themselves that it's for a good reason
A great character, you have to remember when thinking about the things he does and the reasons behind them that the first person he killed in this series in pursuit of these goals was himself.
season 3 clearly shows he only adopted the sven to activate the room
A uncaring father who only cares about resetting the Universe just to bring back his dead wife. Now who that reminds me of… Hawkmoth.
Hawk Moth, Gendo Ikari, Viego (though he wasn't a father). The same archetype of a desperate man who can unmake all the universe to resurrect his wife.
I’m the end, it was a love story. Hargreeves unmade and remade the world to get his wife back
He kills himself in one timeline in order to bring about the end of the world to force his adoptive children to go on a time travel adventure that will ultimately lead him to his ultimate goal of resetting the universe to bring back his dead wife.
There are definitely some stretches of plausibility there, but eh, handwave because he's a super smart alien dude (who couldn't save his own homeworld for some unexplained reason...)
Reginald is hundreds of years old and saw countless apocalypses. Plus, he told why he sent No.1 to the Moon, so I believe he remembers his timeline.
My theory is that Redgy is stuck in some kind of time loop, where the world ends in horrible events every time.
He doesnt rember he just knows why he would have sent him to the moon.
@@kaarthuisplus Idk about that one. He is lying and manipulating all the time.
Maybe, as you pointed out, he doesn't remember, but assume and explain why he send #1. Or, he is lying again.
@@spacedavid I have to agree with Ambidextrous voter. When Sparrow Academy's Reginald told Luther he understands why Luther was sent to the moon despite being an alternate timeline Reginald, shows that the moon is important to Reginald way before the any of the seven children were even born. Plus with Abigail Hargreeves on the moon as well, that just might be his main reason.
the importance of the moon to reginald happen prior to the events of the special children birth/creation and why he was trying to have the space race even occur so he can reach the moon.
His dead wife was on the moon. Thats why he sent #1 up there. It shows in one of the scenes.
Reginald Hargreeves will never change in any timeline.
I don't understand why he has a human appearance when they even show his origin. Surely if that was his home planet they'd all be bug people. Guess it's not his original planet.
I have the same question
What I haven’t understood is when we have the Flashback of Hargreaves in his home world we see them as humans even though we know they look very different. Why is that?
No cgi required it was cheaper probably
It might not have been his home world, in season 3 he said he’s seen many worlds end, so it may have been just another timeline on earth that he was escaping from
@@ethancaffey3268 great point but when he released the orbs how did it cross into another timeline?
I still gotta watch the rest of season 3 and I think I missed a couple episodes from the last season aswell so I'm just gonna rewatch the whole series probably but ya...if I was to make a guess I'd say it was just cheaper the show them as humans rather than do cgi for a whole planet full of people or...maybe he traveled to more than just earth maybe that's not even his home planet who knows
Production $$$. But yeah, it didn't make much sense. It also didn't make much sense for him to release the orange light thingies on his world and what?, just hope they'd eventually meander to Earth decades later where he also happened to go? Why not wait until he got here? I think they just wanted to imply he caused the super-powers, but didn't really think through the logic of how that all worked because it was a "cool" looking scene to have him release them with rocket ships taking off in the background and whatnot.
The one thing I like is Luther is like “oh shit he’s an alien” like they didn’t notice him in 1960 and him in 2019 are exactly the same age
Still, alien may be a stretch. They all have weird powers and their brother is like 70yo in the body of a 13yo. They're probably used to just weird s**t happening, but didn't think of any of that as being alien, so dad being alien may still be shocking.
@@NekoMouser yeah but from their point of view the kids are the only one with powers, so if you dad grows a tentacle from his arm and proceeds to stab you I think it’s kinda a hint that something is up lol
@@liluziintrovert Maybe, but they also had a talking chimpanzee mentor, the world's most realistic robot, personal moon travel, and gorilla body grafts. Their version of reality was always skewed on fronts beyond just their powers.
He made the world end by trying to prevent it.
No by trying to reset it to get his wife back
That's how most prophecies end up working out.
I was very dissapointed by how the children got to know that Reginal is an alien. It was teased as this big thing in S02 and yes it might come into the picture big way later on but this season they got to know the truth and it was from everyone basically ok dad's an alien we need to move on with the plot. It was so stupid.
But I didn't really care because Allisons arc in the season was written the most frustrating and infuriating way. That's a prime example how to make someone hate a character and the big problem in it was that she was the big key for the second half overall plot-wise.
I can find enough to enjoy in the series but it's becoming to the point where bad outmatches the good.
Have you ever seen the show lost???
@@shailonnoelle7175 yeah but atleast they were doing something new, aages ago 😅 You can give them that room for not everything going as smoothly. Lindeloff's show The Leftovers is like tight plotted Lost in many ways, S02 and S03 are some of the best series all around ever made. The first season starts things bit slowly but is interesting enough.
They kinda made Allison fit more with her comic version, but yeah I wasn't the biggest fan of her this season. I hope in season 4 (if or when it happens) we see some consequences for her. Also I don't think the other siblings noticed (I need to rewatch the episode again) and even if they did they had bigger things to worry about so maybe we'll see them react more in season 4
@@popump2617 I think they don't go into it but continues the Allison/Viktor drama that is so overdone already. Luther didn't seem really even mad that she blue balled him for ages and then when he finds someone she abuses him sexually and mocks of choosing Sloan over her. The whole scene was made in annoying way, when they kissed there was this soothing love music and then when she got scared because he is so big and on top of her the horror music starts and we see her running away from him. It was shot totally like he would have been going over the limits when it was clearly Allison, so yeah they tried everything to gaslight audience to feel sorry for her. Other thing is that she killed Harlan because of she was mad and not because it helped the situation of tackling the end of the world, so she just killed him because she wanted to. That was also shot so we don't see her doing it so she would be more redeemable after she on top of all betrays her all family by making the deal with a devil (their father) that got Luther and Klaus killed (but offffcourse Luther doesn't really die) and then comes her big redembtion moment of killing the father and pressing the button and that's it. She didn't even know what the button will do. Then in the end she got everything she had cried moaned and assaulted for the season and propably was the only one not even losing her powers. It was stupid, great way of making a character horrible. There was this "but she got traumas angle".... well who from the siblings doesn't got some major traumas and they are not whining the whole season.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 My dislike of Allison was already simmering but hit boiling point after than scene and never came back down. She effectively committed a sexual assault, yet the scene still seemed to imply that she was somehow a potential victim of Luther's compelled lust and brute strength. And then Luther's acting all "shucks, ain't no biggie fam". It seems her actions overall might be intended to act as a sort of foreshadowing of Reg's own motives - that they're both willing to go to any length to alleviate emotional pain. Luther is certainly the most direct sacrificial victim of them both.
The kids numbers corresponded to how obedient they were to him.
I’d say Sloane was more obedient than Alphonso, she actually called him dad
@@luke8801 don’t think he cared about being called dad the same way he cared about them following orders
@@wolfdog3226 well Alphonso bullied him with Jayme and Christopher, Sloane didn’t
@@wolfdog3226 He might not have cared but being called Dad still means she was loyal to him
actually the kids number were corresponded to what reggie thought was the most powerful to least! except case differs in while the sparrows were in ascending order (1 to 7) the brellie siblings were in a descending one (7 to 1)
Season three is the best season yet. Loved everything about it including the Sparrow academy. Still wondering what happened to #1”s wife but great series
in the comics, he is an alien
and that's the way it should stay
He did Luther and Sloane super dirty. Luther had every right not to trust Reginald.
I just don't like how in the start of season 3 when they were fighting I hate hate hate the fact that number 5 couldn't hold his own, he is the best assassin in the whole time line and he couldn't handle a girl that spits 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Im pretty sure there isn't any assassin's training that'll prepare you for a girl who can spit hallucination acid
Because netflix. It is not allowed to have stronger or better men than women.
The Reginald season 1 “error” is not really a confusing point anymore after season 3 - he clearly wanted to bring them back together so they could get back into the hotel, since his prep for those events still would have happened in the original timeline. How he would have gotten that to the finish line is a mystery (I guess them rebooting time could have been his goal?) but I don’t think anyone can question how his death actually caused the season 1 apocalypse anymore - that was a misdirect for him just as killing Luther was in season 3
I think the s1 and s3 Reginald have two different goals, if we consider the s1 time line the alpha timeline or true timeline Reginald’s goal had nothing to do with hotel oblivion but after they save victor and jump back in time they in a beta timeline which has a different Reginald a more manipulative and evil with not so no noble intentions. This is probably due to events which happen in the future where they changed the timeline. Now in the beta timeline they still would have be born etc but just replaced with the sparrows but cause of their influence on this timeline they again change it to beta 2.0 where Reginald doesn’t want to adopt them due to seeing them be a failure and cause victor created a power user that shouldn’t exist yet who then goes onto kill their parents. This creates the beta 2.0 timeline where it’s the sparrows instead so when they jump back to present day they create the grandfather paradox since they shouldn’t exist creating a new dooms day which is destroying all of time instead causing Reginald to act and put his plan oblivion into action resetting the universe technically making the new one the alpha timeline. So that’s why future five says to not save the world cause he was the future version of beta 2.0 5 who knew what happened this also means before universe reset there was another timeline beta 3.0 in which they beat it another way or at least 5 survives and creates the commission. He told his younger self not to save the world cause that’s how the universe doesn’t get reset and everything should end up ultimately getting fixed properly cause by not saving the world it also means they shouldn’t do that in the original s1 time but instead just let it happen. This would mean the s1 5 would arrive in the apocalypse go back to fix it the problem is everything will just loop. So I think what he really means is don’t save the world let and possibly reset it themselves but to copy the season 1 events which means the only way to stop it all from happening is to kill the cause of it viktor. That’s my understanding of it anyway
True. But I the comic he was around in some time before 1830. So he arrived in America in 1920s. He arrived in England before the 1830s.
Still think the guy with sunglasses and hat in majestic twelve was based off of Sam Giancana. Looks very similar and had connections to JFK in real life. He was boss of Chicago outfit and was theorized to have had a part in the death of JFK as well. They had same gf at the same time at one point.
5 is my favorite
I love 5 and Klaus ❤️
why was he wearing his human suit in the alien world? and why is his wife human or wearing a human suit? 4:55
Given he was wearing his human suit in the after life, it could just be a memory projection.
Its crazy that I've been watching this for three seasons, and JUST at the end, realized that Hargreaves is Colm Feore. Till Underverse Come!
...wait WHAT!? *checks internet* HOREE SHIII
“ Humans will be able to travel to the moon before the Russians” haha are Russians not human in Umbrella Academy?
I wonder, if the Golden Seeds... Are the Way Sir Reginald Hargreaves... reproduces
Alien cum
The thing about Reginald Hargreaves is: when he said to 5 in season 3 "you once ruined your life because you didn't listen to me." Even though the "me" is one who committed suicide...added to which if he really was an alien then "the coroner" would have found out...personally I wonder if Reginald was really the same Reginald all throughout the show through different timelines and that he can go into the dimension of the afterlife and back and to and from timelines at will.
Good because I’m defiantly confused about the dad.
i love that they're keeping the mystery. 3 seasons in and we still have no idea what he really is
We'll never get season 4 unless netflix sells the rights to another production company. The mix of similar story lines, political correct issues within the community and the fact netflix is hemorrhaging subscribers and investors. This unfortunately may be the last season we'll ever get to witness :(. I myself really enjoyed season 3 every last bit of it
@@pvmchrisy okay party pooper, can you at least let us enjoy this season in peace instead of whining about a hypothetical ?
@@pvmchrisy i don't think it's official on whether or not we're getting a s4. Tua can basically pull a marvel and transfer the content from netflix to amazon too but i don't think netflix will let that happen. Tua and stranger things is what keeping netflix afloat atp
@@pvmchrisy there’s a renewal but ok.
Thanks for saving me from watching that dog sh!+ 3rd season…..
I love how Ellen Page decided they were a man so of course the character they play (7) had to be trans too. Apparently you can't "act" as a character unless its exactly like you.
Tom Holland can not longer play as spiderman because he does not identify as a spider. You can not use logic when it is about the alphabet gang especially netflix productions.
If you're going to make the difference between the narrators volume and the series clip so massively different then please add subtitles.
Please look for future videos that the mic audio is at the same level with the serie audio. Other than that I loved the video.
Yessir!! I can't wait for more scream they should have been brought the show back season 3 was completely different but it'll be nice if the lakewood story had Ghostface
Very informative
Why did you edit out the text in the comic pages?
Reginald Hargreaves was definitely a terrible father 💯
He wasn’t a real father he just wanted to reset the time to get his wife back
Eh I don’t think he was a terrible father, he was hard on his kids for sure, but he provided them with a home, and tried his best to help them learn and control there powers, and made sure they were provided for. Could he have been a more caring father and more empathetic and understanding, for sure he definitely could’ve, but I think with the situation being what it was and what was coming he had to be tough on them imo. It was either success or failure and they were super powered kids so a normal childhood was already out of the question but he did try to let them have as normal of a childhood as they could’ve had.
@@leviuzumaki3903 are y’all dumb. He gave them the super powers to do the mission so he can reset the world and be with his wife he didn’t care about them!!! Did y’all not watch the show
@@bobharris7447 he’s manipulative yes, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t care about them lol, he’s shown empathy to many of them like clause and trusted Luther to be on the moon to protect his wife and more, he’s definitely shown that he cared about them in some way and shown that he does care and love them
@@leviuzumaki3903 he abused them and ruined them. He only adopted them so he could sacrifice them later.
Interesting videos but the VO sounds too close to TTS for some reason..
This show balances real human interaction and thinking with super powers and surreal technology.
To me Umbrella season 3 is on par with Heros season one.
Great story that isn't spoon fed. Love it!
Also their powers allow the kugleblitz to have no effect on them. Those lights that gave them powers are the same material the failsafe is made of.
It feels quite on point for Hargreeves to "unite" his kids through unclear and convoluted means
Either the 40k writers took a peak into the Umbrella Academy (have no clue how old it is) or wise-versa. Reginald Hargreeves is almost 1 to 1 the Emperor of mankind.
If you ask me the Hargreaves from the original time line cared more for his children before they changed time he was willing to kill him self to bring his children back together, even if that meant he’d never see his wife again.
In the other timeline he was fine to kill his kids and use them to reboot the universe
Even if that was the intention of the original Hargreaves at first, he still put his life on the line so that the umbrella academy could save the world
Not say he wasn’t a nut job
What if he knew his timeline lacked the essentials for triggering the return of his wife, and reunited them. He did try to tell klaus about something but got cut off because klaus is about as stable as a fucking jenga set, he probably was gonna send them to the oblivion motel.
That's because he knows the apocalylse will happen, and the only way the world can be saved is to bring them back together, and which is why he killed himself. He also knows Klaus can conjure him. If the universe is restarted he knows he can still be with his wife. Not because he cares for the children
0:16 which Episode is this?
5:10 and especially this one
I need that monocle
Great season but could’ve done with less “wholesome” moments and more about him.
Really I mean it was nice to see a slightly good side of Reginald but he was still a complete tool. And jeez those sibling are annoying and dumb as hell.
A writing choice meant to hook the audience
The less you know the more you want to learn
The wholesome moments were great though
Bruh that Allison x Luther (Non consent) scene made me throw up
I'm pretty sure Reginald crafted his own medications knowing ultimately, no matter what timeline, him taking the pills or not is a failsafe which without makes him remember his original mission.
I only learned about this show, just now.
Terrific show. Hoping we get alien form Reggie in season 4
"humans will be able to travel to the moon before Russians" lool they are also human
Americans only think themselves as humans lmao
😂😂😂
9:21 "As he has just returned from the future."
You mean the past.
"Exactly."
Y’all need to try the nazi zombies story cuz it has this very same math, doesn’t matter he killed himself because he knew his kids would go back in time which would trigger the new events of the sparrows which would etc etc etc homeboy had a plan
You guys should do All Black the necro sword, and Gorr the god butcher
He said he's seen many worlds perish, and just so happened to have the particles that not only have the Academies their powers but also power the machine for rewriting reality. Do we really think this is the first time he's used this machine?
All the kids are his but different mothers
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It sounds like your saying the Russians aren’t human. Is there something I missed or did you mean to say Americans (instead of humans)?
Im pretty sure being the one that was restarting everyone he would be the constant. Even the robots, would be of his design. If he explained better, he could have just told them you will start over they wouldnt have fought as much.
the foundation could use a man like him
Cold, calculating and manipulative he's absolutely perfect
Commission*
my question is: the hargrevees of the first timeline would have done the same thing (reseting the world) if the umbrellas would not have broken apart? Or something in that timeline made him change his mind like the relantioship with his children or the death of ben?
Probably (depending how far the showrunners were looking ahead) the reason why he probably didn't do it was because he was down two kids (5 and Ben) making it so the machine wouldn't run (that and the team broke up before they could possibly reach a level of skill he was comfortable with to deal with those hotel beasties.)
@@popump2617 ohhhh that makes a lot of sense, thanks dude
@@joakinzz no problem
Yeah remember they said that when Ben and 5 were gone the team was never rhe same and they didn't train anymore hargreeves probably thought it was useless
@@popump2617 BUT, there were 43 babies born. He had 7. There were 36 others out there he could have gone out to recruit to fill the holes. For that matter, why not just grab 20 straight up at the beginning and then take your top 7 when the time comes?
the clips of Reggie in the past with his lover have him in his human form so that means even that apocalypse was on earth? which means that he had already infiltrated earth for a long time even before that. which means that's how he has witnessed the world ending a lot of times before and he keeps travelling through space and time to avoid the end of the world
if he fled his home planet tell me where did he get the money to buy that umbrella manufacturing company because it just looked like the only things he had was the suitcases and a violin also his new name but i don't know where he got the money he needed to buy the the umbrella company in the first place unless he had valuable minerals such as gold or something in which case i don't know so where do you think he got the money to buy his umbrella company.
Its called an investor. That's how most people start companies. In fact, starting a company with a loan is considered stupid.
It is so annoying hearing you call Vanya Victor in occurrences where he was still actually Vanya. He wasn't Victor growing up, and he wasn't Victor in the first season, and he wasn't Victor in the second season. He was still Vanya and still a girl as far as everyone knew and maybe even as far as he knew at the time. Reginald didn't hand Victor the violin he handed Vanya the violin. Just because he's Victor now doesn't mean he was never Vanya. It doesn't mean he was never a girl. He even said in the third season that he felt like he always knew but it was Sissy that really made him understand it fully. My point is simple though, for most of his life and for most of the series he was Vanya. If you're talking about a past occurrence when he was still known as Vanya, he should be called Vanya.
My and my gf started watching this show this past weekend. Gotta say, the first EP was awesome but thats it... we are on episode 4 and its been painfuly boring... I legit need to know if it gets better. What say you?
It is pretty drawn out. it's typical of fantasy series in that it would be an awesome 2 hour film but they pad it out with melodrama and petty fallings out to make it a series.
@@cookeymonster83 and dance numbers, don't you forget those dance numbers!
@@davindamico1759 fo da black community brather. They have to dance no matter what they do. It is in their blood lol.
One thing I didn’t understand is how did he know when to kill himself? He had no way of knowing when Vanya would lose control
Maybe he just knew that sooner or later, her pill supply would dry up without him?
Time travel?
Bad writing
I only started season 2 before I got rid of my Netflix account.
Wait... So when he released the glowing things, did he know 'Oblivion' was there? Is Oblivion his ship or part or his wife? Could his wife be a super being that created Oblivion? He called Oblivion 'the machine' and knew that the kids would power it...meaning he very well knew about it somehow. Could his people have created it and left it on earth?
Is he an alien from a far off future of Earth or an alternate timeline?
If that's so...how did he know the particles would be spontaneously born humans?
And why did he just get 7...twice??
Looking at the glowing lights he initially released, they weren't much. They seem to have multiplied with the children growing up. Maybe he came from a world where humans were used as fuel? So could be a far far future.
I wonder how he got away from the destruction of the world with his wife's body
Soooooo many questions! This show is a wild ride. I really really hope we get some answers from the next season. 🥺
Don't put spoilers on the title and/or in the thumbnail plz
still hoping s4 decides to fully reveal the alien form since s2 and 3 gave us a good glimpse
Awesome
But Vanya isn't the one responsible for the apocalypse it was actually Luther's fault for not listening to Allison. They were in attack mode and came in hot. when Allison took the Gun and Shot next to Vanya's ear causing the Energy surge to happen Knocking her Out.
I would also question, how Reginald looked like a human, when he was dead.
This shows main character was never the kids. All this time is was Reggie🤯
what one does not realize, he did not restart the universe. He restarted A simulation with their own programs intact into a new "Simulation".
I really want to know what happened to sloane
what i dont get is he assigned their numbers as babies before he even saw them use powers so how could he gauge whivh are strongest as babies
this guy heavily gives me the god emperor of mankind and his Primarks from Warhammer 40K
I believe all the kids that were born with powers are from his blood literally Reginald has the same powers thats y he knew what kids to pick think abt he picked Ben 2x
i came out of this with less info than i came into this video.
What was the point of him killing Klaus and Luther? He could have easily let them come into oblivion to assist 5 in defeating those guardians. Once the world started crumbling, the world have gone through the corridor.
He needed seven ppl to serve as sacrifices for the bells, the only ppl that agreed was Klaus, Lila, Ben, and Allison so he didn’t have enough for the sacrifices and definitely didn’t have enough manpower to beat the guardians, hence why he killed Luther to give them all an excuse to go.
Thing I don't get is why does he look human and in love with another human (Abigail) in another dimension / planet when he's supposed to be an alien and obviously doesn't care for any human... On his homeland everyone would look like fish, no?
Reggie is a member of the Mythic Dawn
Did nobody else notice that the old man five in season 3 in the tube. Only had 1 hand!
Oh wait really damn 5s not gonna have a fun couple of seasons ahead 😅
Okay, so I was good with how everything else in the show was reasonable and believable up until now. An alien, come on!
i personaly believe in season 2 they didnt go back in time they just went to another dimension
"Mom" said he was obsessed with metatron's cube, who is reg exactly? Just an alien? Aliens/ El-Aeons can be demons or angels too, aka archons.
Wait, who's the guy in the Turban?!