nWo Elite & The End of the nWo era in WCW
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nWo Elite & The End of the nWo era in WCW
After the "Fingerpoke of Doom" incident in WCW, Kevin Nash and Hulk Hogan joined forces once again. The rivalry between the nWo Wolfpac and nWo Hollywood had come to an end, and it looked like the New World Order was going to get rebooted. Hulk Hogan, Scott Steiner, Scott Hall and Buff Bagwell became members of the Wolfpac, and this new mixture of superstars now wearing the red and black colours would become known as the "nWo Elite", or to be more specific, the "nWo Wolfpac Elite".
Naturally, if one wasn't part of the "Elite", then you're on the B-team. While the nWo was supposed to be a united force once again in WCW, there was still a split. The nWo B-team, consisting of lower card superstars, were still presented as the "black and white" nWo while the Elite (wearing red and black) were featured in bigger matches with more prominence on TV. So, while this "reboot" was supposed to bring the nWo back to it's former glory days, in reality, nothing changed.
This video follows what happened to the nWo following the Finger Poke of Doom in WCW.
00:00 - The Thunder episode after the Fingerpoke of Doom
05:15 - The Giant is kicked out of the nWo
06:32 - Problems between nWo Elite & nWo B-Team
08:56 - Hogan's title defenses while in "The Elite"
11:38 - The Elite begins to crumble
14:54 - Red and Yellow Hulk Hogan returns
16:36 - Vince Russo and Hulk Hogan
- Much More!
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It's sad that Scott Hall never stepped up to lead the company. Just imagine a motivated, in shape, completely sober Scott Hall being the #1 guy in WCW during this time.
At this point, Hall was only caring about doing his segment, collecting a fat ass check, then hitting the hotel bar asap lol
He was the most over man in the company starting with him kissing Sherri. People LOVED him. And he was a great in-ring storyteller.
@@Thor-Orion when did he kiss Sherri? Halloween havoc ‘96?
John Schneider yep. When the Outsiders first won the tag titles from Harlem Heat she was HH manager.
planescaped he’s the perfect medium between Hulk and Bret. Great in ring, crazy charisma. Have you seen my comments before? You just used an exact quote i’ve made on Scott Hall. “Never not been over and oozes charisma (and machismo)”
Paul Wight was smart. He jumped off the sinking ship just in time
Yeah but he was in a diaper before you know it and you can't begin to take that guy seriously after that....
@@SegaDream131 what do you expect. he's an entertainer. He got his money. That's all that matters
Also, diapers can be pretty serious.
In hindsight he should have had a way better career in wwf/wwe . If he would have kept his weight under control he could have been one of the best ever .
@@SegaDream131 1 mil a year though
Sting not being involved with this angle was probably for the best
Agreed.
Very good timing on that injury that kept him out.
Sting should never have joined any NwO faction. ever.
Yup.
Amen
“Unfortunately, Sting was out with an injury during all this.” - I’d say that was pretty damn fortunate Sting missed out on playing a member of Hogan/Nash’s goon squad lol
Facts
I thought they said he had some issues going on with his wife and took time off...his last match was Halloween Havoc 98 where they wrote him off with an “injury”
@@DragzFire facts
Ohhhhh that's why they helped him at wrestlemania. They didn't want to leave him out. Makes total sense 😒
Or worse being forced to job out to hogan
Hogan dressed like he lost his luggage and had to borrow clothes from Denny, just like Greg Focker on Meet the Parents.
Hogan walked into Nash's dressing room to get clothes just as Nash returned from smoking weed with Hall "Don't worry Kev, I'll keep it on the low down...no doubt"
@@CLuvTravels haHAAA🤣🤣
That finger poke really killed the respect I had for WCW. To this day I can’t believe they thought it’d be a grand idea.
You can thank the creative control clause on Hogan’s contract
@@konnorrockkonnoisseur4970 Nash was the booker.
@@mattyb567567 him too
@@mattyb567567 Nash wasnt the booker, don't talk about things you have no idea about...
I kinda liked the fingerpoke of doom, just the stories after that were strange
Everyone involved say it was a way to get Goldberg back to the title by the summer. But of course WCW messed it up. Also everyone on the booking committee points to other for the the idea.
The sad part of all this is that the NWO storyline never had a proper pay off in the end. In fact WCW in general never really had a proper payoff for most of their major storylines.
Every episode ended in a run in. The run in would be the only way to tell their story.
100%. WCW never got their heat back from the NWO. They kept the angle going well past it's expiration date and ran off the most hard-core WCW fans. The dragon needs to be slayed at some point, definitively, but that never happened.
Correct me if i'm wrong but hogan returning in red and yellow was probably the last time the WCW crowd went insane
@Steve Barnes yup, that was also the first time he hulked up since 1996 which caught me by surprise lol
That double turn was confusing to me, Ric had gotten screwed over by his son at the last PPV who had just turned heel, and then Ric himself turns heel at the very next PPV!
@@billybarnett9518 it was Flair’s idea, Flair begged Hogan to turn face so he could be the heel in the angle. Hogan didn’t want to but agreed cause Flair really wanted it.but as always people have to blame Hogan politics.
@@Bobbywoodhogan I have to question Ric on that one then.
Not true brother,
Hollywood Hogan did indeed HULK UP ...
WATCH IT AGAIN DUDE 😎
The most frustrating thing about this time in WCW: WAY too many face and heel turns. Kevin Nash had the most here, going from face to heel after the Fingerpoke of Doom in January '99, then turning face again after DDP's heel turn and World Title win in April, then back to a heel after Hogan came back in July and beat Savage for the World Title. Then there was the Hogan and Flair double-turn at Uncensored (Flair turning heel, Hogan turning face).
Also while Hogan and Nash both turned Face in April, Scott Steiner who was still on tv despite not wrestling due to his injury still was coming out with the Wolfpac music was a heel and later inducted Rick into the Wolfpac even though it was over.
I felt like during the last 18 months or so of WCW (so pretty much the time when Russo was the booker), there were far too many "tweeners".
And I felt like WCW wasn't listening to their fans at all as far as who should be a babyface and who should be a heel.
An example is Goldberg. What was accomplished by turning him heel?
Well it was for Goldberg to get revenge on the wolfpac elite basically. Sting turning heel was to get revenge on Bret and hogan screwing him in 98 just didn’t execute lol
Probably the wrost was turning Sting heel in September '99, literall nobody wanted or asked for that.
God i laughed so hard at 16:42 Sting needed a baseball bat and the help of DDP, Luger and Sid Vicious to win the title! Hogan booking at it’s finest lmao!!
I love this channel, reignited my love for wrestling because it's finished now
Hey buddy try AEW :)
@@yelnaw i think it might have to be done, i'm a huge jericho fan aswell i think he's one of the GOAT's imo but wrestling will never be the same as it was back then, especially with this society more interested in their phones than the actual wrestling going on in the ring.
@@manichohan319 find a decent-length compilation to get a bit up to speed and then just start watching Dynamite. The key is to not expect "what it was" and learn to enjoy "what it has turned in to", as IMO there isn't a weekly drama/action/comedy show better than AEW
Sad but true
So is it finished or " reignited " cmon be consistent.
I think the main problem aside from a lot of the members being essentially groupies, just sitting and walking around backstage doing really nothing, was there was no strong babyface to oppose them. Goldberg got neutered and Sting was taking time off. No one else was built to join the main event scene at the time. So they were too overpowered and it became too one sided to hold enough fans' interest. It was different when the nWo first formed in '96 and were really fresh and exciting.
Was the perfect time for a wwf star to jump ship and be that perfect babyface..
Would be confusing after he joins the nwo 3 appearances in
Fully agree with both these takes. Hart could’ve had some great matches in WCW and been a catalyst to main event storylines. Neither of those things happened.
They also had a red hot DDP, but I definitely understand what you're saying. Some of those nWo members should have actually been the opposition but it just became a giant circle jerk in the blink of an eye, brother!
@@matthewsmith5374 Yup what they should have done was had Hard run through a bunch of the lower level nWo guys through the first half of '98, eventually leading up to matches with guys like Hall and Nash, and then finally we get Hogan-Hart at Starrcade '98. In the meantime I would have held off on the Goldberg main event push until the beginning of '99. This would have given him more time to gain experience as he was still seriously green, and he could have kept the undefeated streak longer. Two birds with one stone.
@@anthonyanderson9303 well….I think I would’ve kept Bret Hart far away from Goldberg in retrospect on account of the career ending injury he got from working with him ONCE. Outside of the nWo as well Hart could’ve had some great matches and angles; Bret vs DDP, relive an old feud with Bret vs Kurt Hennig, put a stable together and have the hart foundation vs the 4 horsemen in a war games match, Bret vs Jericho and Bret vs Raven before they left. Bret vs Mysterio, Bret vs Eddie, and they never did have a proper blowoff for the storied Bret vs El Dandy feud they were hyping on the hotline so much….So many matches could’ve happened but didn’t because they made Bret a whiny heel with a broken leg. He was a good heel but a much better baby face and he came in with so much white hot heat, even if he didn’t get hurt like he did they wasted 3 years of his services they could’ve spent getting talent and the overall product over.
.Hogan is dressed like he's pretending to be homeless just to get a free bowl of soup
Damn, that's funny! 🤣 No way he was pulling off that Chollo/Gansta look!
He was. That’s why he forced the nwo to re-merge. For that free soup that he didn’t deserve.
Hogans dressed like he going as kurt cobane for holloween
Maybe a weed dealer lol
@@midnightmoon3230hahaha yes!!!
The big show jumped from the NWO to the corporation. What a freekin favor for Big Show
This should be titled The most confusing time in wrestling history
Bringing the Wolfpac & black & white back together was the beginning of the end for WCW. Also showed Hogan playing his creative control
Yeah, it's like bringing the Mongols MC (black and white) and the Hells Angels MC (red and white) together. Never will happen.
yup. The wolfpac was huge, and the wcw ended it for no reason.
I never liked Luger joining any version of NWO. Especially NWO Elite. Sting and Luger just always screamed true WCW lifers to me.
Luger wasn't cool enough to be a member of the nwo to begin with, the guy is a nerd
Luger is a legend. Sorry. Look back at 1996 and 1997!!! No one was more over.
@@chrisvietro4360 more over than sting? Maybe in 96 but no one said he wasn't a legend he just didn't fit in with the nwo
Luger and Curt Henning would of made an awesome tag team
@@money345atherley2 stfu. Dude was a hurricane when miami was top of the totem pole of college hoops. You dumb bro
To see Hogan and Scott Steiner walking together is quite funny, knowing how much they dislike each other.
They were close friend at this time. Steiner was in Hollywoowd with Hogan and setup with people. So your smark-talk is wrong. Later they didnt get along 2010. But they were very close friends at this time. Dipshit.
nWo Elite and nWo 2000 had so much potential that was squandered away.
"Hulk Hogan well was wearing this" is one of your best lines ever
I want a midlife crisis Hollywood Hogan doll this Christmas....
To go steady with my Dizzy doll...
Hogan walking around in Hip Hop Clothes with Baggy Pants - hysterical/sad - but I loved it.
Lol at "Hip-Hop Clothes"...
@@savharris5702 What was worse was watching Nash, Sting, Luger, Savage, etc coming down to the ring in The Wolf Pack to rap music. I get they were super over - but I always found it cringe worthy - old white men trying to act street. Black & White Express 4 Life baby!
You just beat me to leave that exact comment
Well ..."non-white" folks don't have a monopoly on hip-hop culture lol
I thought it made em look slick myself.
It's up to the individual to pull it off.
How about black wrestlers coming out to ...Non-Hip Hop music
... Does it make anyone cringe?
I'm a die-hard WCW fan and I completely forgot 80% of this ever happened. Great video.
Me too....
I like it better this way.....
I'm happy to have missed these years.....
Its crazy how the nWo brought WCW to the top, then it brought them to the bottom WOW just WOW
Yup. Same thing that makes you laugh will make you cry 💯
Really great content, keep it up!
Agreed great content
@n\a everything okay at home?
You get rid of Mr Perfect, and your replacement is David Flair.
I never understood that when they stated it was 'Time To Cut The Fat' and get rid of guys who weren't deserving - Hennig was a legend - he would have fit the term 'Elite' - you get rid of all the other ham & eggers
thats like losing a grand and finding a penny
I think Henning wanted out anyways
IKR
@@screamingtreefrogs3298 they should've got rid of Vincent
Mr. Perfect was B team. But Buff Bagwell was elite. I never understood that
Buff Bagwell was gifted into the nWo Eliteless . . .
Lex Luger was a sore thumb in the group . . .Scott Norton was a joke in the group . . .
Vincent was an all around EMBARRASSMENT in the group
Vincent for WCW World Heavyweight Championship 😆
Nash fixing his hair before the dude hits the ground from the powerbomb
Ddp
The NWO thing was officially dead when Hogan cried his way into the Wolfpac backstage resulting in the fingerpoke of doom. Then Hogan started wearing Jncos and trying to talk gangster "my trigger finger" while fans at home were cringing hard and laughing and then switching over to the WWF in droves!
Hogan was cringe this entire time in WCW, especially his NWO days
Hogan in JNCOs was great. He was insane and over the top just like those pants.
Hogan talking gangsta is the equivalent of Vanilla Ice growing dreads, rapping like a tough guy and acting like he is the baddest dude on the planet. Comical. WCW was a joke at this point and I continued to watch just laughing through every episode. Sad, because I was a huge fan in those days too. At that point I just watched WWF and only tuned in to WCW when WWF went to commercial.
“Hogan showed up wearing, well wearing this”. Lol
I remember I completely converted to WWE at this point.
Yup me too. This was when The Rock and Mankind rivalry was at it's height Austin vs Rock at Wrestlemania and the Ministry of Darkness Undertaker. Yet here was WCW beating the proverbial NWO angle to death and we the fans were supposed to be invested in that garbage? Lol
Hulk and his damn ego killed WCW. He always had to be on top. This why Russo embarrassed him at Bash at Beach 00. 🤣🤣. I've notice while watching these reviews, McMahon controlled where Hulkamania was heading. That's why he really left in 93. He wanted to go somewhere where he had to be in control and WCW unfortunately gave him way too much lean way. When he came back 02, the left again because of his WM pay cut but it was really because he thought he was going to be in control in a roster with the likes of The Rock and Austin. Yeah Ok! Then 05 he wanted to go over Shawn, like wtf! That's why Shawn showed his ass how comedic he really look.
Agree, I always see people blame nash, bischoff and Russo for the end of wcw, sure they all played their part, but hogan from what I've read anyway, seems like he deserves the most blame
Hogan is the wrestling GOD brothers ....
None of us would even be on here giving a damn if it weren't for the prayers and vitamins and a lil help from the hulkster upstairs....
The steroid scandal played a bigger part in Hogan leaving when he did but yes Vince didn't bow down to Hogan like Bischoff cuz he didn't need to. Yes he took his lumps in the subsequent years after Hogan, but eventually he righted the ship once Austin, Rock, DX, etc.. got big.
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Hogan looked like he was new leader of the Flock dressed like that 😂
I never understood why there was a B team. Why would anyone want to be part of that?
@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 There sure was a lot of wasted potential, you make some good points! I can't think of any other reason than what you said that would make any sense, the earning respect and climbing the ranks, but wait what Virgil?!? Lol he kicked his own ass.
96-98 were nWo's best years.
Wrestling Bios, my man, you are outta sight. You are streets ahead. You are the best of us. Thank you for these videos.
The WWF knew (usually) when it was time to end an angle.
Stone Cold vs. Mr. McMahon was THE feud of the Attitude Era. But it was running out of steam by mid-1999 especially after Vince was revealed as the "Greater Power".
So they did the smart thing and ended the feud at Fully Loaded 1999.
WCW didn't seem to understand that the nWo was passe after three years of it.
Exactly right. They kind of shifted over to the McMahon-Helmsley regime later that year with the Rock being the main protagonist, especially once Austin went out. Of course by the time you get to WM 17 and Austin shaking hands with McMahon, that was officially the end of an era.
Will you ever do japan angles? Like All Japan in the 90's ?? Id like to know more about it, but with you doing the work lol.. like Hulk Hogan in Japan... American wrestlers time in Japan
@@planescaped He could use photos rather than videos owned by TV Asahi and NTV
He did mention he would be doing a video on NWO Japan at some point
I can't wait for the coverage of the Bash at the Beach incident.
The nwo should had ended in 98 after starcade 97. Bret hart came over, Sting won the belt, and by that time NWO and the WCW really peaked. If not there, definitely after Goldberg beat Hogan
When Sting used the baseball bat to beat Hogan i find it hilarious that JJ Dillon called Stings actions despicable after everything that jj and the four horsemen spent years doing to Sting and others
After the finger poke I pretty much switched over to Raw and never looked back. My friends at school were throwing away their NWO red and black shirts the next day.
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Another great video, as always, my friend. Thank you for your work.
Dave Flair dancing as he tased someone is the funniest thing
9:25
I am once again asking for your remixes in full length buddy, I‘d even buy them on Amazon. Incredible work man.
Always love the content Wrestling Bios. Every upload brightens my day, thank you so much
Glad you enjoy it!
That wolf pack song though!!! Its a bangger
💯
Love your channel. Look forward to your videos all of the time. Especially Reliving The War. First thing I do every Thursday after work.
You did a pretty good job of sorting that mess out!
Hey man, huge fan here! I just wanted to take the time to say thank you for making all of these videos for us. This day and age I can’t seem to escape current political post and nonsense of people arguing and ALL the chaos. But with your videos there’s peace in my soul, you give us a trip back in time to better, less stressful days for a lot of us. Reliving these moments with your amazing commentary and breakdowns is something we all freakin love. Thanks homie, you da man! 🍻
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"It was revealed to be David Flair, no one cared about this" lmao
Best content man! I am glad a new episode is out
Love your videos! Thank you for all of these!
Keep up the good work. You do awesome job making these videos.
Sting was lucky to miss this. Though being injured still sucks
As a kid I was definitely confused about the NWO.... these videos always give me a “ohhh I see now” kind of feeling..... love em all!! Keep doin what u do! 💯💯🙏🏽🙏🏽
Amazing content. Thank you so much!!
Brilliant as always my man! Great watch
"This being wrestling, the retirment didn't last long!"
Correction: this being WCW, the retirment didn't last long!
Great job, as always.
Great timing w this video!
Oh as a fan I was 100% checked out by this time.
The most frustrating thing about the nWo (all of it's iterations) was that there was no obvious plan to end the angle. It was just one long regurgitated story which they tried to keep milking as long as possible.
Eric on his podcast has talked about there being a beginning, middle, and end to angles before just as their are in any story. Well there was a beginning and a middle to the nWo---but no ending. WCW should have come together and finally ended the threat of the nWo once and for all. Hogan either going away for awhile and coming back as Hulkamania for "one last run" etc. But SOMETHING should have been done to end this and move on to other things.
Eric has also admitted to being poor at match finishes---well this evident with all the run in and showed this. It's a shame because WCW NEEDED to "win" this war and they never did.
Also Hogan continuing to wear black and white while supposedly the leader of the Wolfpac Elite :P
So excited for this episode, thank you my friend
Great content as always 🙂, It was quite a small lengthed rivalry but any chance of a Kane vs. Shane McMahon 2003 video In the near future? ✌️
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Yes!!! Thank you, you’re the man!!
Even as a High Schooler I wondered what wcw would look like when the nWo storyline ended...And it went exactly how I imagined 😔
Just like ROH when they lean on BC too much and were in rough shape last year.
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WCW just couldn't let the NWO go. They made one of the best wrestling storylines and groups ever and ran it directly into the ground. Instead of elevating young up and coming talent they put all their eggs in one basket and it eventually got old.
(Seeing Hogan in his urban hip-hop gear)...He was walking down the beach looking for some action,
Had his radio set on a rappin' rock station.
Saw a girl drowning, sticking situations.
She wanted him to give her mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.
They should of had "Donuts" Dillinger as the leader of the NWO. That would of saved them...
HELL YEAH BAY BAY! another banger video.. watching now on my lunch break.
How TF was Virgil/Vincent still employed at this point? Dude got paid to do nothing
You always gotta have a black guy
He wrestled now and then on Saturday Night.. Maybe house shows?
Vincent was just a HUGE mistake in the nWo . . . He was used as a crash dummy-- getting beat up long enough to give Hogan, Nash, and Hall time to escape
Thanks, Vincent-- for making NO memories of your time in the wrestling business
Omg this NWO theme remix is awesome. I keep rewinding the video, just to listen to it again and again 😆 awesome content, as always Wrestling Bios 👍👍! !
I remember this like it was yesterday night. Running around my dads house. After giving my brother a jackknifing power bomb on the top floor of are house. Real great stuff buddy keep up the great work
One thing that always stood out during this time period and maybe a little before was that all the guys liked wearing their street clothes vs their wrestling gear. They liked showing off their Tommy Hilfiger jeans to look cool and were just there to deliver a promo. It was as if they didn't technically want to be there by not dressing in their wrestling gear. I don't know, maybe it was just me but that always felt off/odd.
The song in the beginning is dope, who ever mixed it, good job.
Keep this content up my dude
Nash and Hogan, KWAB. WCW would probably be still floating if it werent for those 2
The clips at around 03:00 Hennig is wearing Rick Rude's brown suit!
I remember him coming back out in red and yellow. His son was back stage talking to him the whole show. I FREAKED when that music came on.
I still popped in to see what Sting was doing from time to time in 99 but after the FOD and the end of hollywood vs the wolfpack I was a full on wwf fan from there on out
I remember back then I watched Raw religiously but would always tape Nitro when Cartoon Network went off the air and I vividly remember that Nitro when Stevie Ray won the battle royal and to this day I have no idea why
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Unless I'm mistaken Hogan's creative control clause gave him the ability to say whether he wins or loses the match he's booked in, not the ability to determine who he's booked with. And sure I get that he more than likely got to choose who he worked with most of the time but he was a huge star even in 1999, I doubt they'd say no.
Don't watch wrestling anymore but loved this era! Do you think wresting will ever get this good again?
Hell no it sucks now
Nope. There was a time for certain things to happen in wrestling. But in this era...they try too hard. They try too hard to make wrestling like the past instead of trying to give us straight good storylines, feuds & matches. And even in today's wrestling, they can't find that magic. That certain magic that made wrestling so good back in the day. It's sad really. Most wrestling fans are desperately holding on trying to find some good in wrestling. I mean, sure we got some good wrestlers, storylines, feuds and matches (every once in awhile) but nope, it will never be this good again.
Hell no the mystique is gone forever
No. Sorry for the novel
1. Internet has made everything accessible. Meaning storylines are leaked and so are returns
2. Every storyline has been done. Its all re-hashed three times over now
3. Wrestlers had to draw based on TV time. Now it’s just based on a brand name like WWE. Meaning, the wrestler had to buy u in with their promos and or ring storytelling not like it is where the wrestler is monotone/like a robot reading off a script word for word because they work for WWE so they don’t have to worry about having a good match or promo because they know the audience just buys in because of the WWE name
Not unless people stop being so easily offended like they are now
This whole video could have all been summed up with “that doesn’t work for me, brother.”
The finger poke of doom is when I officially jumped ship to WWF when I was a kid.
GOOD WORK GREAT VIDEOS
Hopefully like with some other bios you put em all together in one collection video :)
Wow he named a who's who in the NWA pro wrastlin hogan couldn't cary dory funk, flair, harley or dusty rhodes ring bag.
Disco Inferno deserved more. Not the heavy weight title, but he should’ve won more titles.
Hogan was such a diva. He’s probably the 2nd biggest reason the WCW folded.
Great video