How Our Farm Prepares to Make 80,000 Bales this Winter
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- čas přidán 26. 12. 2022
- The rebaling set up has made some serious progress going into the winter of 2022. Follow along as we get the barn prepared by moving tons of hay out of the way, and doing some custom modifications to the equipment to integrate nicely into our barn.
Sometimes I seem to get this discolored bale's that the sun is shining on through the door and when you cut them open nice and green inside
Yes! That’s actually a pretty good feeling
We run that same baler as well as a bale baron. We only do the baron bundles and no large rectangles. Works great for us. Interesting to see it used for rebaling!
We use to buy large round bales of straw from a grain farm and fork them into a square baler to sell to local landscapers . It was a lot of work but we made a lot of money doing it . 2 guys with 2 pitchforks 😁
Repackaging material for ease of use to the end customer can be a profitable endeavor for sure, there is just no way around it that it does take some work
Thanks for the video- great idea leaving the tractors outside
Thanks for tuning in!
Like the set up. You guys always figure out how to get things done.
We try!
Get things done twice so stupid
im-press-ive ! That bale destroyer sure makes a beautiful windrow. Nice work guys!
Thank you sir! We are releasing a video soon of the actual Rebaling process
@@FarmingInsider can’t wait. t’s def a science when it comes to setting and and operating !
Love the endings.
Haha I did just kinda stop it. I will show it in action more next video
We purchased the 3point hitch Marcrest hydralic power unit so one old 4020 will drive the Simpson unroller tables, the inline baler, and the 5250T Baron......A 5045E will take he bundle as the exit and load them directly into a 53 ft trailer......3 people is all needed to convert 40 4x5 rounds into 36 bundles in about 21/2 hours......
Very nice!
We are too far South grow Orchard grass and too far North to grow "Alfafa of The South" ( Perineal Peanuts} So we are stuck with Hybrid Bermuda grass (Tifton 44)....But 6 years ago we switched to Hay only.......But coming from you I take your comment as well meaning
30 degrees isn't that cold at all. I worked framing a house when it was 20 below F every morning in Maine for a solid week, that is what really sucks. I must be crazy!!!!!!!!!!
You carn’t beat being cautious if your product as customers always remember the one bad bale out of hundreds
Sadly true lol
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
That’s just good business sense!
Good Story , I subscribed, thank you
Thanks for the sub!
Now that you have it down pat you can implement a second destroyer and baler setup 😉 crank them bales out buddie!
That would be serious production
Box in between the wall and the hyd. Cooler on the barren so it can only suck fresh air
Nice setup. How much does your cost per bale increase in a rebale system? Looks like alot of extra handling.
Thank you! I’m gonna break into the economics a bit next video. This was a lot of handling because of storage issues at first, but a necessary evil
Good video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
We load 88 bales in México, per 2 40' semi flat Trailers on 1 trip . And 68 bales on a 53' 3 axle drop deck.
Good numbers! Are you talking about 3x3 bales?
@@FarmingInsider 3x4 bales, that's the best configuration. Arround 550 kg to 650 kg per bale.
68 on a 53? Does that end up being pretty tall?
@@FarmingInsider mm kinda but it's legal, 3 vertical bales on 3 rows on the lower bed, which is 54 bales(6*9), then 14 bales on the upper bed, which is 6 vertical on bottom and 8 horizontals on top of the 6.
That's an amazing operation. $400k or $800k in product? It's still a huge investment and a lot of labor. Feed the beast. It's a lifestyle. Oh, and it's not really cold yet!
We do our best to keep harnessing efficiencies and such with the latest technology
Awesome setup 👌 sometimes we get discoloration just from picking up some old hay that was left in the feild. It's dry matter but brown.. not saying that's what happened with you but it does happen .
You are right, it’s hard to make a perfect crop for sure
@@FarmingInsider we all do our best 👌 👍 thanks for the video . Tell Carl we'll have a slice of pizza for him
Not including additional costs to either bale small squares in the field or make then in the off-season, how much more per ton do you sell small squares vs big squares?
It can be double towards the end of the winter. I can source good quality 1st cutting grass for $180-200 and it will sell for $380-420+
Can u put motors on the outside In place of the tractors
Looks good. I think last year you had three tractors ? Plus I think you had over heating issues with at least one of them.
We made some great improvements this year!
I agree to much face time you do have good content
Nice gloves! 😉
Thanks! I had a great time interning at EY
How many acres did you collect from?
Carl is dead right. If you don't make the u-joints flex they don't self-lube the wear area and you don't get any precession in the bearings and they'll go out much sooner because of the uneven wear.
I told him about your comment at lunch, he goes “I know what I’m talking about.” haha
Hey! I was going to say that!
Maybe invest in a flir camera to inspect the bales with. Check if any hot spots are showing, they cost what 400 bucks, way cheaper than a barn full of hay.
Not a bad idea. I stick thermometers is everything. This is how I knew about the open bundle
Question, why not bale some small bales in the field along with baling big bales in the field so you don't have to handle the Hay twice to get a small bale?
With this particular batch of hay we featured moving, all the little square balers and large baler were running simultaneously. We had to fire on all cylinders to beat the rain
Did you ever weigh the large bail batch, and then the resulting small bail batch to see the difference?
I haven’t actually done that. That would be interesting to know
Where did you get the conveyor feeding the baler and 90 degree gearbox that runs the baler?
We got them from Simpco in Georgia
@@FarmingInsider nice setup. How long is the conveyor
Nice setup. What brand is the bale processor? We're looking at buying 1
messicks bale converter
2 comments on the welding job: #1. Eric O. (SMA) says never weld or solder wires on the internet. #2 My old boss, who would be 90 if he were with us, would say "That's good enough for the girls I go out with".
Haha I’ve heard that one too. Being on camera we know better than to insult the women at home haha
Why weren't they originally baled in small bales? It sounds like small bales is a nice, profitable part if your business.
It takes a lot more labor to make small Bales in the begin with and when you have a short window of weather you need to get it off the field with the big bales
Spot on! Plus, we buy other’s hay and value add by rebaling it
Only a man who’s never made small bales would ask that question 😂. No offence Terry Jones it is a legitimate question 👍
I can’t imagine if that was all one machine, as a trailer or on one solid frame.
The bale converter itself is one machine. The table that feeds the large squares into the webbing folds up and it has a hitch you can pull it around with. The yellow conveyer that feeds the baler is a separate unit, as well as the baler and the baron
@@FarmingInsider callme
That 180, was that the one you used to take the Barron off the float this summer ?
Yes! Great eye and memory
Do a longer video next time to show the bundle dropping badass setup man
Next one is going to show it in depth! Thank you
@@FarmingInsider your welcome
As a dairy farmer..... I dealt with large square bales of hay. Almost all bales have to be treated with a preservative to prevent them from heating / molding. I bought a semi load of large square bales from western Iowa. I told the seller.... I wanted to try " one " bale and if my cows would not eat it I would refuse the entire load......paying for only the bale I took off the load. I put one large square bale in my round bale feeder.......and 10 small square bales of hay that I baled myself in another bale feeder......here at home.
The cows would not touch the large square bale ! Instead the cows gathered around the round bale feeder with my small squares in it.
Bottom line....... the preservative sinks ! Cows wont touch it......thats why farmers have TMRs.....to blend the hay in so the cows will eat it.
So.......rebaling big squares........you have the same issue. Cattle will almost starve before the eat them ! Been there done that ! Beware !
JEEZ! You really love the sound of your own voice.
Good day from Ontario. Boy seems like a costly way to make small bales when they are in big bales alright.
So who gets small bales that big ones could be used. Thanks
Almost exclusively horse farms that can’t otherwise handle the large squares. The difference in selling price and demand is worth it
@@FarmingInsider Yea I talk to neighbour about it & he told me that horse fellows use them Thanks
Is the big bales double pressed
Nice idea
Thank you
Do you patch holes back in your barn or how do you keep it from getting wet in barn by bales where holes were cut
Yep. We patched them over Christmas for the massive snow storms we got
we had a great year for the hay and strew too prices are down for last year lot have them for $ 5.00 here time at the action they get 12 bucks most of the time 5 to i do reenable mine as well look great to the people and they pay more for it lol too
i have calves to sell i usually have bales the bull calves are very hard to milk lol too we get able 150, to 180 . per male calve too some to have larger calves than the other farmer around here too they do well at auction too glad to get rid of the black devils lol too
it may drop in prices if the federal government has it its way too
There is still a lot of winter left! You might see price increases soon
Do you loose alot of leaves doing this bale in the field once and be done
Not much leaf to lose in grass
How do you guys control mice and snakes ..?I got a bad problem with both
We have lots of barn cats that seem to keep the mouse population somewhat contained, we don’t have a snake issue tho
employ the snakes to take care of the mice . they work for free .
Hay I’m from Minnesota wait til it gets to 3 below,still wouldn’t trade farming for anything
Right around Christmas it was in the negatives! Good thing we didn’t have customers or our own animals to worry about.
32 degrees is shorts and T-shirt weather in Michigan!
Hahah after the Christmas freeze I would agree with you. It’s like 40 today and feels tropical
Good video, but is it not more costly to be rebaling.
More costly yes but also more profitable
Is there a Finished rebaling video?
Working on it!
I can tell by all that equipment I couldn’t afford that hay:)
The end market doesn’t care how much our equipment costs, if we are priced too high it won’t sell (hasn’t been an issue yet)
Thankfully my cows love $30 6x6 round bails of anything that smells fermented:)
@@jeffhuntley2921 that is an awesome deal and I feel for you cattle guys. The majority of our hay goes to equestrian centers where money is made independent of the animal haha
Didn't realize anybody "rebales". Can't do it that way the first time around I guess...for some reason.
It’s based on what Mother Nature allows us to do in the field. We will buy other producers product and rebale it also
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Do you have big alfalfa squares for sale? I can pick up
Yes sir
How many acres do you bale hay
Some years too much, some years not enough
Did your accounting firm give you gloves?
Not our firm, but I interned there for a semester in college
What is the purpose of rebailing?
To get the hay into a more user friendly, and profitable package
Wait - do you also work for EY?
I did an internship at EY my junior year of college
Why are you re-baling the hay ?
To meet customer demand mostly
I don’t suppose you’re in Texas for doing this? Because come out here and bale hay in the summertime you’ll instantly change your mind.
We are in northern Ohio
You'd save a lot of money running that thing with an electric motor.
So excuse me but I'm confused....isn't a large square bale made up of many small squares all tired up in a bundle?
A large square bale is made up of a bunch of flakes (just like a small square bale). A bundle is made up on many small squares. So we are taking a large square and making a bundle
Okay Farming insiders, I've watched this re-baling 2.0 and all I can say is......why?
Why do y'all even use large square balers?
Your hay is obviously much more valuable in small square bales, so what's your justification for ever baling large square bales?
Spend a little more time up front when baling, and save all of this time, and the expense of operating all of this equipment, and buy a couple more small square balers, and do it right, and do it once.
Now it's your turn to tell me what I'm missing?
I hope y'all had a blessed Christmas, and you have a prosperous New Year!
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They don't have time takes a lot longer to bail small bails and get them out the field your always fighting the weather soon as you have hay down here comes the rain....so the use big bails to get it out the field to be stored till they have time to rebail ...if you had a small operation then yes small bails from the start
@@dharrison6832 I've been square baling hay for more than 50 years, for my personal horses as well as to sell to other equine owners. I've also been round baling hay for my personal cow-calf operation, and have also used large square balers to a much smaller degree.
As a John Deere Dealer Principle I've used and sold all 3 types of balers over the years.
I typically don't put more than 20 acres of Alfalfa on the ground at a time, which normally yields a little more than 2K bales in 3 of 5 cuttings, with the other 2 yielding a little less than 2K bales, which averages a total of around 10K small square bales annually.
To bale 2K bales in one day, I use 2 John Deere 348 balers with ejectors and 5 or 6 wagons.
In my comment I said they needed a few more small balers, with ejectors and a whole lotta wagons, and they could do it faster, and much more efficiently than baling it twice.
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Ya they are prolly putting down 100s of acres at a time
That more moving parts more break downs more people they can get more done with less and wait till the have time to rebale in a controlled environment pretty simple I don't see what your missing??
It's the same amount of equipment prolly less to be honest...my grandpa had a dairy farm I grew up on it and he was always always fighting the rain and never could find the help to run more equipment that's way way easier said then done
its fair to boys yer Massey fans
WHY REBAIL???
Almost none of our customers can handle 1200lb bales, they prefer small square bales 40-50 lbs. It’s the same conceptually as to why mulch retailers offer bagged mulch as well as semi load orders. There is no one size fits all
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We are looking for more!
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I don’t understand the need to re bale hay. Seems like a lot of extra cost
it's also alot of extra value add which is profitability
You have not answered on me yet?
Too much with the music imo. Everything else so far is nice.
The 15 seconds of music in the beginning was too much? Do you think it was a bad song choice or just don’t belong at all
This entire operation though apparently serves a purpose seems illogical.
Many places can not handle large squares but they can handle individual 40-50 lb bales
The rebaling the hay when it’s all ready been balled seems a waste of money .
It’s a value add
Brown is oxidation. More than one cause, and I highly doubt I would cut a bale open based on color alone. But what do I know. When I farmed hay was NEVER a cash crop. Now you guys ship it all over the US. Short of government subidies I don't see how many farms exist. Many claims how much more efficient they are... Somebody is using different math than mine.
It needed to be cut anyway to go through the bale converter. Hay never being a cash crop is an interesting experience you had. Were there no horse owners in the area or other animal farms that needed additional forage beyond what they maybe made?
Pleas hold more still whit the camera , it's make bad videos .
I am working on that. Thank you for the review
Too much yapping not enough of showing the processing
That is too much work, labor intensive, equipment, fuel , handling.
Krone builds a large square baker that individually ties up to 9 flakes within the big square.
Just set to large square bale on the barn floor, the customer cuts the main strings, and they have up to nine small squares, all tied, as noted, individually, to feed livestock . One step from field to customer.. All this rebale procedure is simply too cost ineffective & labor intensive. I have no affiliation w/ krone,
That machine is cool but the individual flakes it produces are far heavier than our market wants.
the round bails look bad not tasty at all to cows
I still don't understand why you would want to rebail. This was the first time i have seen one of your videos and i will not be back. This looks like a make work project. Something to keep you busy in the winter. You did not answer the basic questions that people would have and most of the stuff you said did not make any sence to someone who has no idea why you would do what you are doning. Bye
Simple! With big balers you can put up a lot more hay in a much shorter amount of time! It’s MUCH faster then dealing with small bales! They have a huge demand for small square bales! Horse people like small 50-60lb bales! Baling tens of thousands of small bales is very inefficient if rain is coming! So they bale big squares then re-bale into smaller, easier to handle small squares! Horse people (many of them women) can then handle them much easier! Also horse people will pay premium prices for quality hay!
Rollin Coal, you absolutely nailed it
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Here's a thought, show what you're talking about instead of your face so much. Literally over half of the video the camera is pointed at you. You have some interesting content but your camera work sucks. You show hay bales, and you stand in front of them like you're taking a selfie.
Thanks for the review
wow...pretty aggressive. Good thing most of us like his content.
lots of face time and nose hairs...not a lot of action...for me: More machines, less full face talking head...or an action only no talking heads video as a second channel!!
Boo hoo. It’s 4 where I live
Haha that’s brutal! We were -30 windchill just a few days ago