👀 LEGACY TALK 👀 Stephen A. & Shannon Sharpe DISSECT Kevin Durant’s legacy | First Take
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- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharpe join Molly Qerim to assess the Phoenix Suns getting ousted from the NBA Playoffs by the Minnesota Timberwolves.
0:00 Devin Booker and Kevin Durant’s comments
1:30 Stephen A.’s response
4:30 Shannon Sharpe makes THIS point
6:30 Damaging to KD’s legacy?
9:30 If KD were to leave Phoenix…
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We gotta stop comparing Devin Booker to Kobe Bryant period.
Straight facts
We?
Big facts
THANK YOU
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"Bradley Beal ended up looking like a Washington Wizard" 😂
He went out sad hoped better for them
Bradley Beal played like a terrorist
This was it, this was the comment 😂
that was too funny
Beal deserves it, ski mask hall of fame with that contract he has. Only 30 but already past his prime.
Shannon just dropped a bar “Happiness is something you can’t find, Happiness is something you create”. That line is true💯
He stole that from a Katarina Blom TED talk.
@@SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk It's a well-known concept that's been around for donkey's years. Just because you heard it somewhere first doesn't mean they own it
FACTS
Start a family
@@kijja Till he starts his my grandma said this rant.
Shannon:All greats have been swept Steph :🗿☕
He one upped them he blew a 3-1 lead in the finals 😂🤣😅
@@WestCoastStyleSports Still wasn’t swept. Kobe choked a 3-1 lead too. And let’s not forget to mention the NBA extended that 2016 Finals by suspending Draymond. By extending that series, Bogut and Andre got hurt and were compromised by game 7. Either way; Steph 3-1 over Bron in Finals.
@@dominicsalazar4731 still crying about a suspension when your team choked 💀
Even LeBron fans don't make excuses for 2011, but everyone who discredits him never keeps that same energy.
Btw, Finals are part of the playoffs. But since you want to seperate them, LeBron is 1-0 vs Curry in the Playoffs and undefeated vs Curry in the Play-In. Without KD, ya boy Curry is lunch food 😂😂😂
Not 0-4 please
Curry got rings without kd and kd wouldn't have anything without curry so to say curry is lunch is crazy. Curry never ring shopping kd does curry stayed with his same team no matter what 😂
KD is never dodging those “Bus Rider” allegations
then why blame a passenger after a crash? make it make sense
@@srdepr9186that was a bar fr
Fr fr...😊😊
@@srdepr9186 That's the whole point. When he wins titles, he's just a bus-rider. But when he loses titles/playoff series, it's because he was driving.
@@srdepr9186that comment was weaker than KD joining the warriors
If it wasn’t for GSW KD has 0 rings
If it wasn’t for KD the warriors would only have 2 rings. They helped each other
@@thatsgame9085will still have rings…..KD would have ZERO
also Lebron will have 6 rings and might retired now
Facts
Agreed 100%
How KD can be held in such high reguard is surprising.
Good player, scored some points.
But you would think he is Jordan the way they talk.
He is a complimentary player, not "the guy".
People don't have similar expectations for complimentary players, to get wins versus possibly the best team in the league, 10 years after their prime.
Yes sir complimentary is the exact word for him 😂replace him for Andrew Wiggins boom another chip 🙌🙌🙌
@@coolbeans3414yes for bron😂 hell naw wiggins could go h2h against prime bron, casual.
Facts
@@anidehcs222 what 💀🤣🤣I’m So confused did u say Wiggins can go head to head with prime bron lol u do know Wiggins couldn’t make the playoffs with the timberwovles 🤣🤣he also had kat only time he made it was when he was the 3rd best option YOU CASUAL
“You got Bradley Beal from the Washington Wizards…and he ended up looking like a Washington Wizard when it counted most 🧙🏾♂️”
-Stephen A Smith 😂😭☠️
That comment is the ultimate insult.... LOL
kd, just a reminder youre not bron
cook
Preach
NEVER WAS!
We knew this when he bent a knee to the Warriors who smacked him and OKC
Bron got swept last year relax and is about to lose 4-1
KD is the ultimate "hired gun," an amazing player that boosts EXISTING teams but you can't build around him.
He is a plug-and-play player, you ADD him to teams that already have structure.
Yeah, ultimate death machine.
KD is 35, past the age you build around...
everyone knew that the second he won his first fake chip with Homeless State --- thanks for bringing up the obvious, genius SMH
They just did that here in Phoenix 😅
Fair assessment
That New Edition/Johnny Gill analogy was GOLD !! 🔥
But Johnny saved new edition and will always be embraced by the fans and the group. Heartbreak was their best album. And Johnny had success solo outside of NE before and after joining and he had success with another group LSG later on. So I don’t know why Shannon would compare the two. The Warriors won before and After Durant but Durant did nothing before or after the warriors.
"He came from the Washington wizards and ended up looking like one from wahington wizards" Lmao STephen A on Fire
Don't worry he's fine in the West
He played like from the Washington generals 😂😂
If Kevin didn’t run to the Warriors he’d still be in the same boat as Harden and Westbrook. Ringless!
And if LeBron didn't have 918237123 superstars to play with him in Miami, he would be like that too lol u have no point stfu
Nah I dont buy it. That 2016 OKC team SHOULD have beat the warriors, if they had stayed together and added a piece or two I think they would have beaten the Warriors (sans KD) or the Cavs in 2017. KD is a coward, full stop
I give Westbrook & Harden the nod because they tried to do it themselves and atleast got to the playoffs and didn’t get swept.
@@natedogg890 The Warriors....maybe. The Cavs....STOP IT!
@@xXLilSmurthXx Nah bro, you aren't a real fan if you don't ponder the what ifs
Why Stephen A. Got Charles Barkley makeup on😂😂😂
That Johnny Gill analogy was golden
Barkley already summed up his legacy in two words. Bus rider.
I still think Barkley better then kd anyday
@@user-rr7pk4er5z career for career your smoking
he would know huh, since was also a bus rider
A bus rider can’t win two finals MVPs and back to back years. Get off Barkley nuts he didn’t win anything.
Barkley is HATER cause Kenny Smith kicked his out of playoffs in '94 Playoffs LMFAO. KENNY DID THAT
The grass is always greener where you water it.
You reap what you sow. Fair or not, KD being a coward and joining the Warriors for 2 easy rings will always be what we remember him by.
I agree you never join the team that beat you
Johnny Gil new edition analogy was spot on 🎯
💯💯💯
KD doesn’t have a legacy beyond great scorer and hasn’t been relevant to championship basketball since the day he left the Warriors.
Agreed. Hes just a notch above a Melo.
@@pepesilvia3573when has melo been an mvp😂the season kd just had at year 17 was better than melo in his prime years😂
@@keandregreen5628 except thats not true. Lol Melo’s season carryin the Nuggets to the WCF was better than this year by KD.
I said KD is better than Melo. KD’s peak was better and his longevity is better. But both were perceived as the best pure scorers in the league at their prime. But neither offered much else.
@@pepesilvia3573Melo can’t sniff KD as a player
@@RetroNBA42 you guys keep thinking I'm saying they are on the same pedestal. KD is better. Hence me saying "KD is a notch above Melo." But there are similarities in their legacies. If KD doesn't hop on Warriors in what is objectively the worst decision any "all time great" has ever made optics wise, they are similar.
That Johnny Gill reference was fire lol
“Happiness is not something that you find, happiness is something you create” that’s a life gem right there unc 💯
KD = just a scorer, he won with GS, because all he had to do was score, KD all around game is very limited, and the TV talking heads will NEVER point this out
His all around game got him a top 5 NBA player his whole career. KD need some dog in his heart.
Guess what, Kobe all around game was also limited and he got 5 rings, I think KD lacks passion or sum, he seems heartless, he is definitely clutch because of that but it hurts to be too cold you know what I mean
@@DamianJens-ik3qy He's just never been put in a situation to where he had to be the clear leader or he just never put himself forward in that manner tbh. He always wants to blend in with the other stars, he did it at OKC, BK, here, GS was literally the only place where he seemed to be comfortable stepping up as the clear best player and wasn't worried about stepping on anyones toes.
This is a fact! 💯
"happiness is something u create" 💯
Delete your account
@@hulk6452 how's my D taste 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The new edition analogy for kd in golden state is perfect
I’m sensing Johnny Gill on Club Shay Shay this week
He been using dat analogy fa a while
for the youngsters & those not in the know, Unc is dropping jewels here --- the New Edition analogy is better & way more accurate than the Jackson 5 analogy, easy!
@@thebestever160Tito wasn’t no Johnny. Thats why SAS is corny 😂
Lol not really
Curry has never been swept
He's at home sweeping RN
With 4 championships in his legendary career with GS.
Harden never got swept, Westbrook never got swept.
@@ShangosAxbut they don't have rings either.
Shannon with the New Edition analogy is too funny😂
6:25 The new Edition analogy was on point.
Facts!!
If KD never went to the Warriors … he’d be another Melo
He is already better than Melo. If he never went to the Warriors, he still would be.
@urbaindelva7869… fine a slightly better Melo …
Melo should had stayed and retired in Denver but instead he chased the bag and retired with 0 ring 🤭
KD and LeBron are the softest all star players I've ever seen. No killer instinct whatsoever
@@lionpaw9118you’re a casual with an opinion like that. They are pros, winning is just legitimately very difficult.
KD never had a legacy so no damage done. 💪
Weird thing to say given his résumé lol
Yea ok Most of these NBA players would disagree with you. 7 footer that plays like a guard and influenced future Goats like Wemby.
Most scoring titles in NBA history:
1. MJ - 10
2. Wilt - 7
3. KD - 4, tied with George Gervin and A.I..
That new edition reference was perfect lol
Bradley Beal “came from the wizards looking like a wizard” is cruel af 😂
Beal signed a contract to be the 3rd scorer on the depth-chart. That was cruel a year ago. Not so much today.
@@penkima4923$50 million for your 3rd option is wild
Trading CP3 was definitely crucial to the Phoenix Suns
Biggest mistake they ever made
Im telling u, they jumped the gun on the facilitator
Cp3 is washed, he averaging 9 points this year 😂😂😂. The suns dodged a bullet with him.
trading cp3 & firing the coach after not having enough time to build chemistry together was stupid
@@donnie876if they were gonna trade him at least trade him for younger playmaking PG
“Ray & Claud on Life.”😂
This tv studio and background looks really nice! To those who created this, great job! Produces a really nice atmosphere
KD keeps building teams with offense only. He needs to realize that he needs to put defenders around him to be successful
he needs to do this not the team 🤷🏿♂️
@@brazy6191 KD is the one who wants to follow Lebron in being a player/GM. So yeah, not the the team. (Lebron's only real bad move was Westbrook. And accepting Pelinka as a GM and going to a team who won't go over the cap.)
KD has been swept twice, and neither one of his teams had a point guard. If KD takes part in building his team, his teams lack playmaking.
Tired of this man getting flowers, KD the definition of over hyped.
Kd was SWEPT twice in the last THREE years
Always been over rated. Ppl think great scoring means great basketball player....
AGREED they keep talking about he’s this great player etc like nah call him out for his let downs
@@ucheakusobi6281facts
How can u be overrated when majority of idiots think like u? Hes the most hated superstar but he’s overrated? Stfu kid
“I think it’s devastating “ lmfaoooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love the new edition reference at 6: 30
Correction. STEPH helped KD to two of his ONKY tittles. This latest team KD has failed with is proof or you’re just blind.
True, but let's face it...Steph ain't beating LeBron in the playoffs unless LeBron loses Kyrie and Love or he has a super-stacked team.
😂 cap @@tonywong8134
@@tonywong8134 That narrative is so dead, they didn’t need KD they just needed to upgrade from harrison barnes who scored 0 points in game 7.
@@vakmireSteph hasn't beat LeBron in the playoffs without KD since 2015 and even then LeBron had 2 of his Best players missing
@@vakmire Ok, so what about game 6? The Warriors could've closed it out game 6 but didn't. Look at 2016 and 2021,2023: these are all years LeBron and Steph's teams were on a pretty even level and all 3 years LeBron knocked Steph out of the play in or playoffs.
WOW!!! A New Edition comparison on First Take! Love it1
Happiness is not something you find it's something you create 🔥🔥🔥
KD a bus rider.
His lanky as gonna throw Frank vogel under the same bus
He piggybacked off Steph Curry
Curry piggybacked off KD. Without KD curry has 2 rings and Isn't considered a top 3 point guard.
@@arigatogyro260better two than none if he didn’t join 😂🤡
KD carried CurCuck to those rings. Hence the two Finals MVPs
@@FunnyBaseballStadium-cc5dk cry
He came from the Washington wizards and ended up LOOKING like a Washington wizard 😂😂😂😂😂
“They ended up settling on Frank Vogel…” is an insane sentence 😂 he’s a championship coach
Its coming from a bronsexual remember bron was the coach 🤦
Dude sucks as a coach he deserves most of the blame dude lineup management has been trash all season
@@Icanthearyouatall You can say that. Im just pointing out the inconsistencies of SAS. That man has been caping for Coach Doc Rivers for years because he’s “a Championship coach” but with Vogel there’s not one mention of it. It’s just strange to me.
Because he's white
@@ivanacosta5688 don’t do that because Stephen A talks down on black players and coaches all the time please don’t try to make it about race Vogel is trash there’s no way you have KD booker Beal and bol bol and not win one game in this series. The suns looked disengaged the entire series a coaches job is to have his players ready to play and to strategize his team in the best positions for them to succeed Vogel did none of that
Yall owe Steph an apology
Bro isn't even in the playoffs lol
@@Karlog06 🏆🏆🏆🏆
@@Karlog06 who has won since they broke up tho? Cause kd only won one playoff series since he left to go to teams HE created….
100% agree with you, Steph is the greatest point guard of all time I do not care what anybody say
Steph literally has 2 rings only because of KD. He'd of had a career of getting cooked by Lebron If not for KD. Also steph/the warriors aren't even In the playoffs?
Knew it was over for them when they lost to the Spurs 3 times.
Underrated comment
The lesson you can't create a big three with same kind of players and without bench
That was why KD couldn't win as a Net. So, he didn't really learn anything new as a Sun.
@@penkima4923 well KD is just a player isn't a general manager
Great point Sharpe , he looking for happiness when he gotta look within and CREATE happiness, I love that 💎
Steph never got swept 😂
Get real kid maybe because either the other team he played was always injured or he just had KD and a stacked team.
@@jimbobfisher8904bro Steph klay dray stayed on same team you act like we just made kd come kd went to gs because that’s the only team he knew he could win warriors actually had good Bench sorta before kd got there then we fucked up after he left cause we had no rebounder that can be relied on now but will see if we make the playoffs next season I’m sure they will
Steph blew a 3-1 lead let’s make a list bout that he’ll be up there
@@Lekefrmda4 Detracting from the point being made doesn't changed him never being swept 😂
@@jimbobfisher8904 Get real yourself kid, Steph was never swept, case close.
Yall got rid of the PG that made y'all relevant
Facts
Facts
They probably thought, if OKC can get better without CP3, they can too
Partly... but what made that team win was Cam Johnson...Cameron Paine... Mikhail Bridges... Ya CP was a big plus
CP0 is literally injury prone aging point guard who doesn't play defense.
The worst part about it too is that I believe KD would’ve won a ring with OKC had he stayed. One ring with OKC would’ve been worth double the two rings he got with the warriors.
these legacy talks after each game are just funny now lol
@4:31 UNC “All the greats have been swept 🧹 “. Except Steph Curry
But yet he wasn't even in the playoffs this year... keep d riding though..
Just wanted to state that fact at least. It was basically Steph vs every other team this past season. I can't blame him missing the playoffs this year with this years horrible roster. @@qm804
Did they SPECIFICALLY say “this year” in their comment?
@@thelonewolf7443 I’m saying overall.
What have the suns did since trading cp3
@4:04 They got Frankle Vogal SAS? 🤣😂
Great quote Shannon, " happiness is not something you find, its something you create"
Players above KD all time (no order): Jordan, Bron, Kareem, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Kobe, Duncan, Curry, Shaq, Bird, Hakeem, Oscar, West, Zeke, Jokic
I'd be JUST fine with that lol
Where does he rank position wise?
@@DaVinciiTaylordefinitely behind bron and bird, arguably behind both dr j and Elgin Baylor as well. Not mad about him placed anywhere from 3-5 of his position
@@DaVinciiTaylor number 3
@@DaVinciiTaylor maybe 3rd depends if you put Dr J above him or not
BREAKING: Suns trade KD for tickets to Cancun.😂
Naw he can go to Galveston too after getting swept 😂😂😂
Y'all are just crazy in this world 😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
Brooklyn Nets might've won that trade.
“Into the sunset” 😂😂😂😂
Muhammad Ali once said, that he would welcome all challengers and he never ducked anyone. Michael Jordan said that he never thought twice about playing with Magic or Ewing or Bird because he wanted to beat those guys. I agree with Shannon. Kevin moving from team to team, he is ducking the competition.
Shannon stay dissing Jordan in front of Stephen A 😂😂😂😂😂
He's right. Bron the goat.
FACTS👑🐐💯
@@tytytyme33bro what you smoking remember this Mayne 1 michael Jordan 2 Kobe Bryant 3 LeBron 😆😆😆
@@damagicdagoatbron the goat
The Golden State Warriors thing really fucked up KD's legacy and took a toll on his mental health. He used to be this sweet guy whose mom appeared on TV at all the Thunder games. He left and became this villain but that's not for everyone. Kobe even struggled with that and really only turned the corner when he started being a friendlier teammate and having Pau on his team. I feel like Pau was the first star teammate Kobe ever liked. Idk that Durant has had a friend like that on one of his teams. He's played with awesome players but the pressure of being this villain. He needs a star that will help him just put that image to rest so he can just be a good teammate. Maybe needs to work on his mental health like Kevin Love or Demar.
Johnny gill reference 🔥
Pippen is basically my favorite player. KD is like Pippen. So so great. But not a leader. Chuck is just right, he's not a bus driver
KD is the opposite of Pippen in most ways.
KD has been swept twice in the playoffs, because he's not a playmaker. While Pippen's Bulls and the Dream Team were so dominant, because Pippen was the playmaker for them.
KD is the ultimate scorer. Pippen is the ultimate defender.
KD is among the best clutch players ever. Pippen was at best the 3rd option in the clutch for the Bulls.
KD played with elite players like Russ, Steph, Harden and Kyrie, and KD was always the alpha, the 1st option and the bus-driver. While Pippen played with MJ, Barkley and Olajuwon, and never was the 1st option, and he was the bus-rider. When MJ retired the first time, Pippen was momentarily the 1st option, but they didn't make a deep playoff run without MJ.
@@penkima4923 you missed my point entirely. Pippen is great. But he can't lead a team. He can't win on his own. KD is the same. Great. But can't do anything on his own. He's not a leader. He'll never be the first option on a championship team, exactly like Pippen. KD is the ultimate role player
@@slytherben KD wasn't only the 1st option on the Warriors, but he was the best player out of both teams. Just because KD isn't a playmaker, and he isn't a ballhog like LeBron, doesn't mean he's not a leader. Saying KD isn't a leader, is just something fake analysts like SAS say, because they don't know enough to make a real take on the subject.
Wait ... did anybody mention Beal??!! 6 fouls, 6 TOs, and like 8 pts... KD didn't cause him to play like that
He showed up in other games, Book disappeared for the first 3 and KD was inconsistent all series, the two leaders didn't perform well overall
The moment KD decided to join the Warrior, the media decided that they would never say anything positive about him. It was that decision that killed his legacy in the media's eyes ... he is still one of my favorite players
He stopped Lebron from winning so that made him enemy number 1 to the media.
That's an excuse the media don't say anything positive about him because he hasn't won anywhere in 16 years without Steph and he always lose 4-1 and 4-0 with superteams that's pathetic and had the nerve to say why he isn't in the goat conversation..lol smh
Facts
the media was crowning him best player in the league once they won😂😂
Getting swept twice in the first round didn’t do anything to his legacy?
Bradley Beal can move around - Rashad McCants 😂
I feel like this hurts Booker more than KD honestly. KD really just out there to hoop for fun. Hes not really chasing anything like Booker is
Clown take
5:14 - That "yes" from Molly when Shannon spoke to her though. She ready for you Unc 😭😭
She sounded like an undercover naughty housemaid..TOO GOOD/TOO SEXY..❤️(still music to my ears tho) lol😏
Everyone at ESPN is sleeping on Paul George and James Harden this morning, shot after shot was dropping
I’ve been saying
They pissed away a 31pt league and barely won... I feel your take, but you can't mention their shot making and not acknowledge kyrie and Luke's comeback
Ya if u watch that game u know they should have lost 💀😂sick game thoe
Love uncs take!!! One of the best!
6:31 hearing them mention exactly where I was born and raised is so surprising to me
KD is easily one of the top 5 players to ever touch a ball when talking talent but his decisions have him top 15
Yeaa and untimely injuries when he was takin over the league..jones fracture in 2014-15 comin off his best season ever in 14 his mvp yr..missed almost that whole 14-15 season no playoffs..that OKC squad woulda beat both GS or Cle that yr in 15 for 1st chip..achilles in 19 finals cost him 3rd finals 3 finals mvps in a row and then the rehab sidelines him all of 19-20 1st yr turned bubble tourney with nets..still easily top 15 but prob jus outside top 10 all time!!
It's not KD's fault. He should've joined Bron's Lake Show instead of the sloppy Suns.
First take will always be entertaining when unc shay is there… those lines were hilarious 😂
Glad to see Beal bringing that Wizards culture to Phoenix! 👏🏼
KD be like “my next chapter in Denver”
To be honest KD would be a great piece as a backup for Denver due to Jamal Murray's health and performance slumps.
@@mihirchitnis905stop talking smh
My Boi KD needs to Be in MIAMI
No way 🙅
Kd got no heart
Im a wizards fan and that had me 💀💀💀
If kd would't go to a 73-9 team that had the back to back mvp and dpoy and won nearly back to back rings he would be nothing but a tracy mc grady
Imagine KD , Bron & AD 🤯🤯🤯
You love super teams
Shut up lol
I will love too see that
At this point, just get that on 2k. They're too old as of now, they'll just miss a bunch of games together.
@@chiefmiyagi9802 Maybe not so much. I think all three men played at least 60 games this year
Lol y you only hear Molly when times up just leave her off the show lol 😂😂😂
She stopped interrupting them. This is a great improvement.
Nah I like women, unlike you.
not true she made a noise at 9:50
Shannon Sharpe is in his purpose and Stephen A. Smith found his calling in media as well. Great to see brothers win.
Great New Edition analogy Shannon
He said “Back to Back, Jack” 😂😂😂😂
Tf is Molly wearing, a bath robe!? 😂
She ready rn
She bout to hit Only Fans after the show
It usually takes 2 seasons for players to gel for almost any team. run it back if possible, only team that will trade for kd is a contending team and that will look bad for him even though the team traded him or he wants to leave it'll look bad period.
Unk always have good comparisons that Johnny gill KD and warriors comparison was too spot on
I’m just glad Stephen A finally shut his yap about saying KD is the best player in the world 😂. That take flew too close to the Sun then went up in flames 🔥
Molly looks like she just got off the bathroom in her robe. lol!
5:14 The way she said that was CHEF'S KISS🤌🤌 PERFECTLY DONE.❤️👌👌
Suns should trad KD to Heat for a boat-load of depth and pics. Works for both teams.
People acting like KD ain’t went to the finals with the thunder 😂
Did he win?
Did he win or lose?
Bro that was over 10 years ago 😂
Moving goal post I see
And got smoked in a gentleman sweep the point is his lack of success outside of the Warriors
Kupcake Deluxe's resume wouldn't be that great without those 2 fake chips & 2 fake participation Finals MVPs with Homeless State
Bradley comments get me on the floor 😅😅😅😅 . You cold for this one Stephen A
5:39 "Happiness ain't something you find. It's something you create". Woooo Shannon
So a sweep only affects KD's legacy and not Lebron's ... gotcha!
Did you miss the segment where Shannon named Shaq, Magic, Jordan, BRON as guys that also have been swept?? Or did you just listen to what you think you hear
@@NayB13 yes they have been swept but we never hear the "legacy talk" ...
@@27markohBron was never swept in the first round, KD has been swept in the first round on multiple "super teams"
@@gritsgravy3886 a sweep is a sweep regardless!
@@27markoh and many greats have been swept like Shannon said so basically you're making no point at all.... you're just making it about lebron for nothing
Kd on July 1st asking the suns ......i need a bus tranfer 😅