It was not only incredibly fun playing out this combat, but also extremely interesting to see how a character's plan can go down the drain if the 'dice gods' are against them!.. If you enjoyed this episode, it would be awesome if you considered supporting the channel on Patreon! Not only will you be helping me get closer to spending much more time on this crazy endeavour, but you'll also get access to all releases 1 week early! Cheers guys - stay awesome! patreon.com/TheAIGuy10
Celestial made a key error of not making herself look like Tronald, this would’ve nullified Rawwr as a threat as he would never attack his precious Tronald
I'm so pumped for this series. As a career DM and player, I feel like this is some top-notch storytelling that highlights how fun and flexible the system can be. Thanks to the crew for everything they do.
Its such a D&D move for Saxiron to complain/point out that Tronald's Burning Hands spell shouldn't be able to effect him because he's underwater literally right after he himself cast Firebolt at Raarh from under the water...
It’s been a few days but I’ve caught up with this series and I can’t stop watching them Let’s go team Raahr and Tronald! “We shall whittle his cheese down until he has none left to churn” - Saxy “You will never diminish my 🧀” - Tronald the 🐐
Although magical fire does work underwater because there's no rules against it, all creatures submerged in water have resistance to fire damage, so Tronald shouldn't have been able to deal that much damage. Either way, great video lmao.
Was about to say this. Also, to comment on Saxiron's attempted Booming Blade on Tronald and Raarh's swing onto Saxi while he was in the water, those attacks would be made at disadvantage because of neither were using piercing weapons (i.e. spears, tridents) or have a swim speed.
@@Mrryn I noticed that as well, but some people ignore the underwater disadvantage rules, it just felt weird to make a point that fire spells can be used underwater but ignore the fact that the damage should be halved. Also, Saxiron should have been unable to swim to Tronald without dashing as he doesn't have a swim speed so he would have to use up 2 feet of movement for every 1 foot he moved, thus meaning he could only make it half the distance.
@@dweebie Also unrelated but there was the round where Celestia blast Raarh with Guiding Bolt even though she used Healing Word on herself in the same round.
The fact that Saxiron cheated with temp hps, Celestia ignored disadvantage on guiding bolt from being in melee with a hostile bear while attacking Rawr, but also Joe ruling that water doesn't give you resistance to fire damage and gaslighting Saxiron saying there was nothing in the rules about it Honestly this is about how my D&D games go too, the final outcome however was not defined by these rules mishaps, it didn't end up mattering
Damnit, not only did I fail my saving throw against Tronald's suggestion spell with a 10, team Saxy and Celestia lost. Great episode as always, can't wait for the next one!
Recap: Tronald unleashed both the cheese factory and Raarh: Saxi and Celestia did not stand a chance against that combo, so they did well to last so many rounds!
His AC was 21 😜 The hits he received were never below 21 to hit, it just wasn't represented by his stat block as that was his 'base' AC without the armour donned
Tronald : "I'm finding this all a little confusing to be honest." Saxiron: "What's confusing about Joe allowing your stupid spell to work underwater?" Tronald: "It's just I was sure this water around us was freshwater, yet you're so damn salty" XD
6:36 That's not how Faerie Fire works, Saxi, it affects the targets in the area if they fail their DEX save and then for the duration they remain affected no matter where they move. Tronald cannot "move out of the area it's affecting".
Agreed. Poor Celestia wasn't given the choice of partner but agreed to the match. Saxi (artificers, in general in my opinion) is a support member of the party. A vital role, but he isn't going to best tronald or rahr in a battle. I doubt Celestia and Saxi combined could beat either of their companions and together its not even a contest. Then again I always play spellcasters or spellcaster/martial combatant multiclasses so I'm probably biased.
Wow, the DM definitely played favorites in that combat. For one thing, the bear would have gotten an AOE against Rawr when he ran over to Celestia, also there is no way that Tronald can use that many different spells in one combat encounter. I could buy it if Tronald or Rawr survived while the other two were defeated, but there is no way they managed a 2/0 without cheating.
Faerie Fire isn't an area effect, it targets creatures in an area and then is left on them. Love the show! Edit: Underwater combat does have a section stating fire damage is resisted while fully immersed, but I've had dms claim that in their games they went the same way as in here.
I'm using real world logic, not fantasy. If water extinguishes flame by sucking out the heat, and magic flame isn't affected, then I would think it wouldn't absorb heat to create steam. But the rules in a fantasy world don't have to follow that logic.
Ah I see what you mean! Yeah, it's always weird when it's 'up in the air' about what to do, but I almost always go the most immersive of the two ways if given a choice 😁
Celestia should have gotten an opportunity attack on Raarh as well whenever he jumped off the bridge. Not that it would have mattered, most likely, but still.
The number of rules mistakes are many: No concentration checks were rolled when anyone took damage. When Tronald took a booming blade hit, he should have taken additional damage when he moved on the following turn. The burning hands should have done half damage to Saxyron because he was in the water. Fun to listen to though.
Booming blade was shielded in the end, but all the other ones yeah, I missed them - that's what happens when you're overworking yourself I guess, I'll look into dropping down to 1 ep every 2 weeks or something when it comes to battles in the future, too much to do with the time I have in just a week :/
Been curious why Raarh reactivates his rage so often? According to the basic 5e rules rage lasts 1 minute and a combat round is only 6 seconds, so a single activation of his rage should last 10 rounds. But it seems when in combat he reactivates it every two rounds or so.
well Celestia missed the opportunity to turn into Tronald and convince Rahr that the true Tronald was a foe. I feel like that could've swayed the battle.
Even though there is some rules that forgetten like fire bolt at melee is at disadvantage but guiding bolt has no disadvantage it was still a lot of fun for me. Thanks for the combat friend!
That potent sure made all the difference!! Great bout! I'm curious here! The battle unraveled in an interesting and engaging way. Did you actually roll those dice as you went through it or did you decide those on your own to reach the ending you thought would be better?
They were actually rolled! I was tempted to switch a couple of things up as I felt saxy was having a super rough time, but then I thought nah - as I wanted to keep it true to the dice!
Very good episode I knew that tronald and raahr would win don't know why raarh would choose a healing potion over throwing axes though a potion he never used
Hey dude I've made a fair few announcements/comments in previous videos on this - I'm going with CR Campaign 1 rules in terms of spellcasting Can cast 2 spells aslong as one of them is a level 1 'bonus action' 😁
It was not only incredibly fun playing out this combat, but also extremely interesting to see how a character's plan can go down the drain if the 'dice gods' are against them!..
If you enjoyed this episode, it would be awesome if you considered supporting the channel on Patreon! Not only will you be helping me get closer to spending much more time on this crazy endeavour, but you'll also get access to all releases 1 week early! Cheers guys - stay awesome! patreon.com/TheAIGuy10
I don't know the actual rules concerning Tronald's cheese but that and the displacement porting seems a bit much at that level
@@cedriccrawford4231 No shit, DM has an obvious hard on for Tronald.
@@tangled999 it's only a 2nd level spell.
Yes
Celestial made a key error of not making herself look like Tronald, this would’ve nullified Rawwr as a threat as he would never attack his precious Tronald
I'm so pumped for this series. As a career DM and player, I feel like this is some top-notch storytelling that highlights how fun and flexible the system can be. Thanks to the crew for everything they do.
Joe’s Bear sound is brilliant. Gets me every time 😂
Omg the bear is awesome. Was laughing so hard lol
OMG I just lost it
What’s the extra role for Tronald?
26 points of emotional damage!!
Just..awesome
Would be more of an even match up if Tronald & Raarh were on separate teams, though I don't know emotionally if they could handle that
Tronald/Saxi v the others. Both teams arguing with each other may overshadow the fight 😄
Next time!..
I love how they started out hating each other in the first few episodes and then became best friends. Legolas and Gimli vibes
"You will never diminsh my cheese," 😂
Saxiron casting Firebolt from underwater and then immediately complaining about the Burning Hands. Classic D&D right there :D
Never a dull moment when Tronald speaks. Well done, Tronald.
Team Tronald and Raarh to win the civil war
I just hope Raarh does not forget mid rage that the two people he is fighting are his allies...
Spoiler alert
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Its such a D&D move for Saxiron to complain/point out that Tronald's Burning Hands spell shouldn't be able to effect him because he's underwater literally right after he himself cast Firebolt at Raarh from under the water...
It’s been a few days but I’ve caught up with this series and I can’t stop watching them
Let’s go team Raahr and Tronald!
“We shall whittle his cheese down until he has none left to churn” - Saxy
“You will never diminish my 🧀” - Tronald the 🐐
They hear a dong?... First Raarh bites one, now it's talking. This is the best adventure ever!
Cleric and Artificer had no hope against wizard and Barbarian I expected that to happen
So hyped!!! Hope this series never ends, such clever writing and the AI voice’s are perfect! Guest casting is dope!!!!
Man, I wish actual combat could ever be even half that fast.
This is the coolest thing I've ever found on the internet. God speed brother keep it up. Can't wait to see more cameos lol
Thanks! 😁
Moments of epicness are earned not given is the best line ever 😂
So excited, can't wait to see which side will win
😂😂😂 15:24-15:34 was golden. Also the emotional damage roll afterwards
You will never diminish my cheese belongs on a t shirt.
Although magical fire does work underwater because there's no rules against it, all creatures submerged in water have resistance to fire damage, so Tronald shouldn't have been able to deal that much damage. Either way, great video lmao.
Was about to say this. Also, to comment on Saxiron's attempted Booming Blade on Tronald and Raarh's swing onto Saxi while he was in the water, those attacks would be made at disadvantage because of neither were using piercing weapons (i.e. spears, tridents) or have a swim speed.
@@Mrryn I noticed that as well, but some people ignore the underwater disadvantage rules, it just felt weird to make a point that fire spells can be used underwater but ignore the fact that the damage should be halved. Also, Saxiron should have been unable to swim to Tronald without dashing as he doesn't have a swim speed so he would have to use up 2 feet of movement for every 1 foot he moved, thus meaning he could only make it half the distance.
@@dweebie Also unrelated but there was the round where Celestia blast Raarh with Guiding Bolt even though she used Healing Word on herself in the same round.
@@Mrryn did she? I thought those were different turns.
@@dweebie Right at 10:00
In the immortal words of the late, great, legendary artist Tom Petty; "the waiting is the hardest part".
I saw this thumbnail and had to rejoin the campaign. I am working on episode 10. I have a lot to watch, but it is still as great as ever!
Can't wait
"I was sure the water around us was fresh water, but you're so dam salty" 😂
The fact that Saxiron cheated with temp hps, Celestia ignored disadvantage on guiding bolt from being in melee with a hostile bear while attacking Rawr, but also Joe ruling that water doesn't give you resistance to fire damage and gaslighting Saxiron saying there was nothing in the rules about it
Honestly this is about how my D&D games go too, the final outcome however was not defined by these rules mishaps, it didn't end up mattering
🤣 yep, the DM and players forgetting things just makes it even more realistic I guess!
Btw,those combat session are amazing,you should put more of them!amazing work as always
Damnit, not only did I fail my saving throw against Tronald's suggestion spell with a 10, team Saxy and Celestia lost. Great episode as always, can't wait for the next one!
Tronald & Raarh are a dream team
Tronald and Raarh didn't even have to sweat 😂
Recap: Tronald unleashed both the cheese factory and Raarh: Saxi and Celestia did not stand a chance against that combo, so they did well to last so many rounds!
would have helped if saxiron used his new 21AC armor....
His AC was 21 😜
The hits he received were never below 21 to hit, it just wasn't represented by his stat block as that was his 'base' AC without the armour donned
Celestia should withhold healing the next time those two get hurt, that'll teach them to cheat.
I was rooting for Saxylestia, guess anoyher time :P
Great episode brother, loved every bit of it!
This is epic stuff😂😂
Epic as always
Really love the balanced mix of story and battle
❤
Tronald : "I'm finding this all a little confusing to be honest."
Saxiron: "What's confusing about Joe allowing your stupid spell to work underwater?"
Tronald: "It's just I was sure this water around us was freshwater, yet you're so damn salty" XD
Not the bear 😂😂😂😂
He's back!
Been waiting for this all god damn week!!!!!!!!!
26 points of EMOTIONAL damage hahahahaha only tronald would've come up with that
5:30 you will never diminish my cheese XD
18:00 why a 19 hit Saxy... oh what he didn't use his new armor ?
Hey man! So it was a 'natural' 19 - which means 19 + 4(str modifier) + 2 (prof bonus) so 25 total!
@@WeDoAIStuff my liege
16:2 arent celestia and saxy supposed to roll a dex save to potentially half the damage?
outstanding I love this series. I wait anxiously weekly for a new drop.... amazing.
Thanks dude!
I fucking love this so much! Best shit on CZcams!
These battles are fun,fast and furious,love them!
Genius writing
6:36 That's not how Faerie Fire works, Saxi, it affects the targets in the area if they fail their DEX save and then for the duration they remain affected no matter where they move. Tronald cannot "move out of the area it's affecting".
i dont think i have been this excited for a youtube video ever. RIP Leafy :(
You don't move out of fairy fire. You are fairy fired
The class distribution in this fight was not fair. Wiz/Barb was always going to win. Sad for Saxy but greatness is earned…
Exactly!.. The accomplishment (risk/reward) wasn't that big for Tronald and Raarh... But imagine the clout if Saxy/Celest pulled it off!..
Agreed. Poor Celestia wasn't given the choice of partner but agreed to the match. Saxi (artificers, in general in my opinion) is a support member of the party. A vital role, but he isn't going to best tronald or rahr in a battle. I doubt Celestia and Saxi combined could beat either of their companions and together its not even a contest. Then again I always play spellcasters or spellcaster/martial combatant multiclasses so I'm probably biased.
Can’t wait till Friday. I know something big is about to happen
that'll be the bear then 🐻
This is so good great job absolutely beautiful
Thank you for teaching us how to run a brilliant and entertaining combat, Brother . Can't wait to see how this wraps up .
Sax did not get a dex save on that burning hands
This story just begets more of the tail epic stuff!
Wow, the DM definitely played favorites in that combat. For one thing, the bear would have gotten an AOE against Rawr when he ran over to Celestia, also there is no way that Tronald can use that many different spells in one combat encounter. I could buy it if Tronald or Rawr survived while the other two were defeated, but there is no way they managed a 2/0 without cheating.
Gonna be awesome!
Having Jake Eagle here is pleasant. I enjoy his company
And he enjoys yours too!
"As seeing as there is nothing in the rules"
A creature fully submerged in water has resistance to all fire damage
Joe's only human, he makes mistakes 🥲
@@WeDoAIStuff fair enough, it's just something I wanted to point out since im running an underwater campaign
That was totally epic!
the under water attack should be disadvantage
This series is so friggin COOL...!!!
tronald and raarh are the best team since the mario brothers
Gordon Ramsey was indeed the goat
The Cheese Machine!🧙♂️🧀
Faerie Fire isn't an area effect, it targets creatures in an area and then is left on them. Love the show!
Edit: Underwater combat does have a section stating fire damage is resisted while fully immersed, but I've had dms claim that in their games they went the same way as in here.
If water can't extinguish magic fire, the magic fire shouldn't create steam.
why? I don't see a reason why an extinguishable flame wouldn't be able to produce enough heat to evaporate water :p
I'm using real world logic, not fantasy. If water extinguishes flame by sucking out the heat, and magic flame isn't affected, then I would think it wouldn't absorb heat to create steam. But the rules in a fantasy world don't have to follow that logic.
Ah I see what you mean! Yeah, it's always weird when it's 'up in the air' about what to do, but I almost always go the most immersive of the two ways if given a choice 😁
@@WeDoAIStuff nice pun
absolutely amazing guys
Damn, I rolled 1.... I liked the video and shared it with my friends.
Celestia should have gotten an opportunity attack on Raarh as well whenever he jumped off the bridge. Not that it would have mattered, most likely, but still.
bahahahahaha oh man the extra roll from tronald for emotional damage!!
Let's be honest guys. We all knew who was going to win that fight from the start.
Emotional damage!
Tronald is the CK (Combat King)
You're god-damn right!
Jake sounds really good!
Excellent outro on this one :D
Damn elon gana use the iron man suit 🫡
Best show going right now
I wouldn't even attempt to predict what's coming cub but I wouldn't count Celestia and saxi out of it yet. But ...
good story telling!
Another awesome episode! A fun idea having them fight each other!
Thanks! 😁 it's a good way for them to let off some steam!
@@WeDoAIStuff You are welcome! Indeed! haha
The number of rules mistakes are many: No concentration checks were rolled when anyone took damage. When Tronald took a booming blade hit, he should have taken additional damage when he moved on the following turn. The burning hands should have done half damage to Saxyron because he was in the water. Fun to listen to though.
Booming blade was shielded in the end, but all the other ones yeah, I missed them - that's what happens when you're overworking yourself I guess, I'll look into dropping down to 1 ep every 2 weeks or something when it comes to battles in the future, too much to do with the time I have in just a week :/
CHEESE MACHINE
Nat 20 but I didn’t need the suggestion already liked
rolled a 17+2 on my suggestion save, still subscribed though
❤ you will never diminish my cheese😂great episode pleeze take them to level 20 in the next year.
Raaarh and Tronald are the best duo.. you can't make them lose. !! But now I want to see more of Jhonny Depp ! Is a rouge swashbuckler right ?
It is indeed!..
@@WeDoAIStuff ohohohoho noice !!!
Been curious why Raarh reactivates his rage so often? According to the basic 5e rules rage lasts 1 minute and a combat round is only 6 seconds, so a single activation of his rage should last 10 rounds. But it seems when in combat he reactivates it every two rounds or so.
If you don't get attacked or make an attack before the start of your next turn, your rage fades 😁
@@WeDoAIStuff Oh right right... Thank you for the clarification 👍
well Celestia missed the opportunity to turn into Tronald and convince Rahr that the true Tronald was a foe. I feel like that could've swayed the battle.
Damn, you're right! Could have been interesting!
Even though there is some rules that forgetten like fire bolt at melee is at disadvantage but guiding bolt has no disadvantage it was still a lot of fun for me. Thanks for the combat friend!
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That potent sure made all the difference!! Great bout!
I'm curious here! The battle unraveled in an interesting and engaging way. Did you actually roll those dice as you went through it or did you decide those on your own to reach the ending you thought would be better?
They were actually rolled! I was tempted to switch a couple of things up as I felt saxy was having a super rough time, but then I thought nah - as I wanted to keep it true to the dice!
Very good episode I knew that tronald and raahr would win don't know why raarh would choose a healing potion over throwing axes though a potion he never used
That seemed out of character to me. His rage makes him unafraid of damage.
@@Butterb0ne He wanted to only use his weapon and couldn't stand the thought of losing Tronald
Ep.21 will shed some light on this
the bear attack should have forced a concentration check on the clerics' bless m8 :P
indeed! by the time I realised though, I simply didn't have time to rescript, re-animate, re-render, re-upload :(
Can't cast healing word and guiding bolt. No two spell in one turn
Hey dude I've made a fair few announcements/comments in previous videos on this - I'm going with CR Campaign 1 rules in terms of spellcasting
Can cast 2 spells aslong as one of them is a level 1 'bonus action' 😁
For my saving throw against the suggestion i got a 11, but I'm using my natural 20 portent i rolled at the start of the session
damn That was a close fight
Emotional Damage !😂
I rolled a "9" ... Great Battle..
Tronald 2024!
Sorry Joe. Nat 16 on my save. But I hope that doesn't stop you doing what you're doing. That battle though, it was a predictable if painful outcome.
Let's fucking go!!!!