The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it. Robert E. Lee
@BabyGirlDontEvenPlay "Feel that moral sentiment" says it all. Subjective perception is more easily manipulated than objective reality. It continues, "...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..." means they don't come from governments.
@BabyGirlDontEvenPlay I'm not implying anything. Basic human rights do not come from governments as the Founders understood it. Government authority to coerce rights is just as easily used to take them away. Decentralized government that understands this is more easily controlled by the people than distant centralized government as Lincoln gave us.
Lincoln never gave the Gettysburg address. It appeared in the press after his few minute flop of a speech at Gettysburg 11.19.1863 and has only grown in legend since.
I always saw the hypocrisy in the Gettysburg Address. How can it be a government of the people when you are actively and violently trying to force 9 million to be in that government against their will?
That sprang from the protestants, and particularly, from the Puritans. They had a zealot-like crusade that they wished to push upon not only the new states, but the world. That separated them from the South, and their hardliner attitudes and beliefs led to the Civil War. It's a holier-than-thou attitude that many still have in the North within the WASPs.
It's also worth noting that most historians state the Puritans came here to escape " religious persecution " . What is virtually NEVER addressed is why they were being persecuted in the FIRST place . Considering their conduct on these shores , it takes no imagination to figure out that they had an matched gift for wearing out their welcome .
The Puritans were very much respected by Southern ministers during the Civil War and they believed that New England was wrong not because of Puritanism but because they abandoned their faith. Not only that but men such as StoneWall Jackson were compared with the likes of Oliver Cromwell. The point is not everyone in the South excepted or embraced the Cavalier identity.
Lincoln’s words at the Hampton Roads peace conference of 1865 are more revealing of his perspective on black rights than was anything he said at Gettysburg. His actual views on the subject (black rights) need to be distinguished from mere political rhetoric. Lee argued for gradually implemented universal (Confederate) emancipation in a letter to Andrew Hunter of January 1865. It was approximately one month later that Lincoln proposed a delayed emancipation of 5 years at the Hampton Roads meeting with Confederate leaders. (Secretary of State Seward reminded the Confederates at that meeting that the South could block ratification of the 13th Amendment by returning to the Union.)
No. This is a clip from their longer presentation, “Virginia First: the 1607 Project.” The essence of what is being said here is that the idea of a nation based on the ideals about which Lincoln speaks were unheard of before the war.
@@mkshffr4936 It was fought to create a kill box for hajjis, because Sadama tried to kill GW’s daddy etc. WMD’s was a handy tool and we did find 500 chem rounds and labs but mostly it was about that kill box ( and money. Money is always a thing)
@@mkshffr4936 Not really 9/11 wasnt a lie nor the intel before it. The threats posed by islamic totalitarianism were real since the 1900s. WMDs were a serious concern and there was reason to think so at the time. And everyone believed it…
The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it. Robert E. Lee
Lee used the word republic, not empire. It was in his response to Lord Acton Dec. 15, 1866. But your, and his point, are unfortunately spot on.
@@DocAkins Thanks for the correction.
@BabyGirlDontEvenPlay "Feel that moral sentiment" says it all. Subjective perception is more easily manipulated than objective reality. It continues, "...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..." means they don't come from governments.
@BabyGirlDontEvenPlay I'm not implying anything. Basic human rights do not come from governments as the Founders understood it. Government authority to coerce rights is just as easily used to take them away. Decentralized government that understands this is more easily controlled by the people than distant centralized government as Lincoln gave us.
I notice the "refugees" were escorted away from Martha's Vineyard quickly.
Lincoln never gave the Gettysburg address. It appeared in the press after his few minute flop of a speech at Gettysburg 11.19.1863 and has only grown in legend since.
I always saw the hypocrisy in the Gettysburg Address. How can it be a government of the people when you are actively and violently trying to force 9 million to be in that government against their will?
Apparently all those people were simply wrong and needed to be forced to stay against their will, according to Lincoln.
Another great video ❤
That sprang from the protestants, and particularly, from the Puritans. They had a zealot-like crusade that they wished to push upon not only the new states, but the world. That separated them from the South, and their hardliner attitudes and beliefs led to the Civil War. It's a holier-than-thou attitude that many still have in the North within the WASPs.
It's also worth noting that most historians state the Puritans came here to escape " religious persecution " .
What is virtually NEVER addressed is why they were being persecuted in the FIRST place .
Considering their conduct on these shores , it takes no imagination to figure out that they had an matched gift for wearing out their welcome .
@@kaboom4679 True.
@@kaboom4679good point
@@kaboom4679 Exactly what I was thinking. Everything I knew about that was told from their own POV.
The Puritans were very much respected by Southern ministers during the Civil War and they believed that New England was wrong not because of Puritanism but because they abandoned their faith. Not only that but men such as StoneWall Jackson were compared with the likes of Oliver Cromwell. The point is not everyone in the South excepted or embraced the Cavalier identity.
Bravo!
Lincoln’s words at the Hampton Roads peace conference of 1865 are more revealing of his perspective on black rights than was anything he said at Gettysburg. His actual views on the subject (black rights) need to be distinguished from mere political rhetoric. Lee argued for gradually implemented universal (Confederate) emancipation in a letter to Andrew Hunter of January 1865. It was approximately one month later that Lincoln proposed a delayed emancipation of 5 years at the Hampton Roads meeting with Confederate leaders. (Secretary of State Seward reminded the Confederates at that meeting that the South could block ratification of the 13th Amendment by returning to the Union.)
So, are we advocating for slavery?
No. This is a clip from their longer presentation, “Virginia First: the 1607 Project.” The essence of what is being said here is that the idea of a nation based on the ideals about which Lincoln speaks were unheard of before the war.
Stromberg’s a mumbler. Lay off the sauce.
If war was fought over slavery tgen Iraq war was over wmd
Wasn’t it though?
@@Mr.WitnessIt was fought for a lie.
Proud to be a Southerner!
@@mkshffr4936
It was fought to create a kill box for hajjis, because Sadama tried to kill GW’s daddy etc. WMD’s was a handy tool and we did find 500 chem rounds and labs but mostly it was about that kill box ( and money. Money is always a thing)
@@mkshffr4936 Not really 9/11 wasnt a lie nor the intel before it. The threats posed by islamic totalitarianism were real since the 1900s. WMDs were a serious concern and there was reason to think so at the time. And everyone believed it…