Disgusting lift modernization
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The Evil Owl is starting his master plan. We better be ready.
He's collaborated with Jackson lift Group!
EVIL OWL IS DETENTION.
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Disgusting
Some Schindlers here in Singapore have been modded with generic buttons and generic indicator but they kept the original logic. Seems like engineers who did that knew what they were doing.
Those in the new CapitaSpring office tower, like the M-Line ones, sometimes overshoot the floor slightly & then will self-correct (most obvious in the lifts serving the attached hawker centre, as the doors have windows). While I heard this allows the M-Line lifts to decelerate later & thus run faster, sadly in CapitaSpring it takes like 4s to self-correct, which instead slows them down
i saw some schindler overlevel and underlevel very little
Same in Madrid's subway (all buttons replaced (not the logic, fortunately) apart from the airport's Terminal 4 station, which keeps everything original).
I think that first lift was probably a friday afternoon job. Why would anyone who has the slightest passion for their job bodge it up so badly. Can be one of these things: 1. It had to be done before the weekend no matter if it looks nice it just has to basically work. 2. Lift engineer who’s not happy about his job and couldn’t care less or has low job satisfaction. 3. A boss or a client who pressures to get the darn thing done by 5 o’ clock.
Any industry has people who are lazy and do it just for the money, contrary to those who are passionate about their job and are eager to get better at it. I don’t think that bigger lift companies always have better lift engineers, some small companies can have really good and experienced ones. It depends, maybe with big companies the slackers get less noticed as they have collueges who fix the bad work of their lesser collegues. Ultimately I think it comes down to experience and passion for the job if a lift engineer is good at his job, regardless if they work for a small company or big one. Also in the building industry I see this mentality of fixing it quick and dirty way too often and some people are really only interrested in making money and are not too passionate about their work. The main reason why things get bodged is because of the age old “time is money” and pressure for clients to get it done as quick as possible. You don’t really notice this much if you’re outside looking in but it happens on every workplace. It’s just the way things are in a commercial buisiness. It’s sad but true.
Agreed!
I definitely agree
Why Is Evil Owl Become Rude To Lifts?
The saying goes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
@@rahan573 YEAH NOT
@@rahan573 ..
@@rahan573 good morning
@ ⟨⟨⟩⟩ Rahan2003 ⟨⟨⟩⟩ The Bad Lift!
We will all miss the best lift ever....The M series.
I've looked at the reviews on Google maps and it is actually hilarious how many people have mentioned that the lifts aren't working, just shows how good Jacksons really are
Lol the indicator is 1 fps XD
Jackson....more like Crapson
Shatson
The CEO is on Crackson
Cumson
PieceOfShitSon
Fckson Lifts.
I have been to buildings where the buttons were replaced with bad touch screens. It pisses me off because not only is it impossible to figure out but it cuts out independent repairmen from being able to work on any problems related to the control systems.
Try and get the panel when this thing gets modded I’m having Schindler 7000 in my apartment and I’m not letting generics touch them
I wish I could be this passionate about something in my life.
my tower block has jackson lifts. They are out of service and/or left on inspection control more than half of the time, and when they’re actually in service, many know such great qualities as...
> The left lift refusing to call at the 4th Floor
> A “”lift engineer”” who programmed the left lift to wait at every floor for 15 seconds before departing (they eventually fixed this)
> The lifts often going to the floor of the button pressed, only for the doors to not open, and for it to return to ground
If an awesome schiendler m series similar to ones like the video were modernized to a mitsubishi, how will you feel?
That lift always used to be really busy and you’d have to wait on the car park for ages, dread to think how long it takes now. They’ve also got the Car park level numbering wrong, it should be cp1 and cp2.
I would try to get the COP from the Schindler M-series while you have the chance or any parts you can get your hands on
I absolutely HATE lift modernisation in general. Regardless if it's a generic or to a proper brand. I was sad when I found out the glass Otis lifts at WestQuay shopping centre had been modernised. I was so gutted. But at least Kone isn't bad unlike some crappy generic lift
Is it me or the Schindler chime sounds like a kone k-delta?
Yuck
I know the Bromley Otis mod has a lot of faults, but do you not think the reason why the lift doesn’t open both sides on the UM floor at once (and maybe the reason it was modded at all) is probably to do with the mall being on one side and Waterstones on the other, and is deliberately done to try and stop shop thefts? Ie so you can’t just walk through the lift on the UM floor with both the doors open, rather than just bad programming? I know it’s not infallible but it definitely makes it more difficult, just a thought.
There's a very similar mod in Kirkcaldy in a car park, unknown logic... But the buttons work perfectly, the logic somehow just doesn't register the call... No locked floors the logic just doesn't register sometimes... So odd. It's a Consult lift.
I assume everywhere with a lift is under pressure to moderise to make them "disabled friendly"? Or is it availability of spare parts to keep them running?
What percent do you think Mitsubishi is in goodness compared to that schindler
If I went into this Modernised 2000VF, I would definitely not safety break it because it will go out of service for 10-15 minutes since it is using Lester Controls.
Lester controls will continue straight away if the safety break was very short (less than a couple of seconds). If the safety break lasted for longer then the lift would go out of service for 10-15 minutes before starting again. If the lift was put on inspection then normal the lift would restart after just 30 seconds. But if a button was pressed inside the lift then the lift would start straight away. Inside calls are responded to differently to outside calls and make the lift do something immediately, when outside calls are handled by the group control part of the software (even if it is a single lift) and won't accept calls if it sees all lifts in the group are out of service. Also the lift would start straight away if you pressed an inside button because no lift logic wants to trap passengers.
Beno Lifts
Couldn’t have explained it better 🙂😀😀😀
There is a old Jackson lift at Sports Direct in Nottingham.
@@liftsurfer52since when does he hate old lifts?
@@liftsurfer52I see
How do you get lift keys beno lifts?
You can buy in ebay
Do you have any footage of the first lift before the mod?
czcams.com/video/KVDrntVntS8/video.html
You entertain me. XD
Also what's the video of the original otis vf
I'm now wondering what the worst is I can find.
they even modernised the Kone ecodiscs at Premier Inn at Gatwick airport, even though they are 10 years old, they are still in good condition.
I can't remember, was the Premier Inn at Gatwick done by Jacksons or Prestision or some other company?
Beno Lifts not sure, haven’t been there though, but if i did, i would know the name of the generic company that made it.
@@benolifts i thought i remember you saying in a comment or something that it was Apex
@@benolifts It was Titan Range, BENO.
Its a shame that old lifts cant last forever, I was having noticed tonight an Orona Lift is to be modernised... since that got installed in 2007 but its always modern at the time. When your living born in bread you see how much has changed, The Keighley lifts in Morrisons, Bangor were the best once's but since their buttons were replaced from old to new Generic fixtures! But the worst part is they are now modernised to Pickerings. Its all in my channel for those they might not seen.
The Kone M Series (with their buttons replaced) in the car park at the Royal Victoria Place Shopping Centre In Tunbridge Wells are going! The last ones are getting modernised as we speak!
i like the floor UM cuz it means ummm what happen to otis here
If I bought a building which had old lifts still original, then I would get the company that originally installed them to come and, unless they were too far gone, leave them original but just make sure that there were no potential faults that could occur
what would you do if they were too far gone would you put mitsubishis in instead?
@@emmareporter4324 Mitsubishis or posh ecodiscs
What if the original lift company no longer existed
@@GenericLifts get a good company to get the lifts running without modernisation
go to an apartment building in new york city in the usa and there is a lot of old 1940s-1960s lifts and some are original and some were tastefully modernized
I think the door open and close buttons are the right way round now.
Did Jackson modernize the spooky broken Schindler at the far end of the mall?
Laser controls are like windows OS. You can install it anywhere....
I really do not believe what is happening with the best lifts which keep getting murdered by engineers!
1:28
Automated voice: Upper mezzanine.
Beno: It's not the $@£$#&% upper mezzanine it's upper mall!!!
2:23 Well done to Jackson %#$&^*$ #&£€$*#@lift group
LOL!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the Schindler’s it’s very sad that there been modded with nasty Generic lifts
The shindelier lift there is one in castle court Belfast
I've seen some shit mods in my life, but this takes the cake as one of the worst mods I've seen!
Beno can you can take a detailed look at TVC ETHOS 2
This was at the intu glades shopping centre in Bromley.
I knew that Jackson were bad but not this bad.....
Holy fuck, beno. Didn't think you'd so pissed about losing that otis, yet so controlled about that schindler. :p
I am more angry about losing the Schindlers
Glades?
Beno Lifts, you know who did this...IT’s EVIL OWL!
EVIL OWL!?!?!?!
HE'S DETENTION ALREADY!!!!!
I think this has something to do with Evil Owl modernising the best lifts into the worst lifts!
My dad works at a shopping centre and is the handyman there. They had old Otis lifts that kept breaking down almost every week, like really badly (refused to serve calls, buttons gave people electric shocks, I think even the cables kept slipping sometimes). Then he took in the cold truth and decided modernisation. Immediately loads of generic lift companies offered to replace them, (nearly accepted one from apex lifts) but he was talking about it while taking me to school and I recommended Kone. They now have 4th gen LCE Ecodiscs in the old motor room.
The entire lift's metal surfaces are all earthed, so it is impossible to get a shock from it. If the earth link failed then that is a very serious matter and is a very serious failure by the company that was servicing the lift, nothing to do with the lift model. Another reason for electric shocks is because of the air conditioning giving out charged air, then when someone touches any earthed surface the built up static charge in their body is earthed, giving the false perception that it was the metal surface giving the shock. Secondly, if the lift was not serving calls then that is because the maintenance company don't know what they are doing of. To me this sounds like the maintenance company did a very bad job at servicing the lift, and tried to cover up their own failure by claiming that the lift needed replacement. I have both heard of, and seen for myself, countless examples of lift company's deliberately maintaining lifts badly then claiming they need to modernize them.
@@benolifts I asked him who serviced them while they were otis and they were a small generic company called "ennis lifts". they turned quite a dodgy maintenance company. And the lifts were quite old aswell, but the newer kone's are okay, i guess
That is bad. Never trust any of these tiny companies. Ennis lifts sounds terrible. Tiny crap company.
@@benolifts tiny crap indeed. they install mp lifts
What a horrid modernization.... I Don’t think this mod is going to last long.
that voice is exactly the same as some of the crappily modernized lifts at my work.. but even then they need repair work doing on them
The Lester voice is the worst lift voice ever, along with Stentorgate.
@@benoliftsi have to say since i constantly hear it.. i agree!.. espeically with the latest controls change on one of them.. the lifts at my work are and were mostly 60s or later up to modern lifts.. theres a bennie and some others but the buttons and controls and some.. if not all of the motors have been changed.. there all a bit of a mix of new or old parts or new parts in the old apart from the more modern lifts and also originally the bennie was almost i imagine all original apart from the controls.. with some being slow as hell and some quite bumpy, creeky and such.. sorry for the essay lol
Its not m f*** upper mezzanine it's upper mall!!!!!!
UPPER MALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should go there again. Maybe its nog modernised
Reasons why to remove the first lift:
1. The first lift announces "Upper Mezzanine" but the modded Schindler M series (the glass lifts) get the announcement correct! This is beyond shocking!
2. The door open and door close buttons are the wrong way round
3. On Upper Mall, both doors open at different times
4. Slow speed
What do you think Beno?
YOU ARE NOT THE LIFE OF THE WORLD!!!!
@@VerlorenMaster Be quiet! I'm trying to list reason why Jackson did a crap job at installing their lifts!
In my country it's not uncommon for upside-down 'up' buttons to be used in place of 'down' buttons, which is going to confuse Braille users as unlike the symbol, the Braiile for 'up' & 'down' aren't symmetrical
@@lzh4950 That's very interesting and it's also a clever way to avoid extra effort making a 'down' button 😂
@@Aymaan2.0 Another way to tell is if the button lights up as green instead of red when pressed
Evil Owl is back!
wait a minute
what about that schindler on the far end of the car park that never worked
It is still the same
oh, is it still broken after like 10 years
When was the last time it worked?
@@liftsinireland probably still broken lol
@@liftsurfer52 nah its definetely broken, im fairly certain theyve just forgotten about the lift
01:28 Lift: Upper. Mezzanine.
Beno: IT'S NOT THE ****** UPPER MEZZANINE IT'S UPPER MALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That made me laugh so hard.
And Jackson are the worst. I came across lifts made by them in Worcester and they're worse than Nova. The St Martin's Gate lifts are cheap asf
Noooo! It’s November now and those Schindler M-Series elevators are modernised!
Even in NorthKorea my friend Kim Yong un uses Schindler lifts.
North Korea are probably not capable of making their own lifts. They are probably like the soviet union and can make a little creepy lift, but don't have the skills to make a lift for a taller building.
@@benolifts hello Beno excuse me my friend Kim Jong only schindler!.
I’ve been in lots of generic lifts, like the one in my local Dunelm and they are rubbish. Even the Disney Store at Bond Street in London has a generic! Disney are a world class company, they are amazing, and for them to get a stupid generic lift is a Pauling. Just because Disney can’t get Dover lifts because Dover are American doesn’t mean they have to get a rubbish, stupid lift in the UK!
After they've installed those new panels in the lifts you should smash them off and put the originals back and fuck with the lifts controls to make that one have a bad rep
The Bromley Glades management should've gone for the -head- actually good elevators.
The brit that loves lifts he should become a common sense tester for the designs
I can't even think how can one f*ck it up so badly, and actually put it in service. How can one even get the buttons the wrong way round, is it that hard to TEST something before actually putting it to use?
This was modernized in 2018
Why’d they modernise it in the first place CZcamsrs
disgusting yuck modernisation!
No it should say Upper Level
GET OUT!!!! OUT!!!!!! OOOOUUUUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
after the Schindler M series mod
*UPPER MEZZANINE FLOOR*
Before the Schindler M Series mod
Upper Mall
I totally agree with Ben. This mod is cancer. Bromley Glades is stupid. And, let's not forget that Evil Owl will die soon. Reply with #bringbackthemseries so I can see who loves the M Series and who wants Evil Owl gone forever.
Busking in Horndean Village outside the One Stop Napier Road
Beno’s rant..... wow
It's a good rant
At Ashford international, the awesome 1970s Kone lifts got modernised by stannah, and it sickens me that my favourite model of lift got replaced, why do all British train stations need their lifts to be modernised by stupid stannah, in fact, those stannah lifts are more narrow than the old kone lift at Ashford station, AND THEY GOT RID OF THE BLOODY DISNEY LIFT, it's now disgusting inside that thing, it's super boring, and the awesome doors opening sound no longer exists, well done Ashford international, you ruined the lifts and stopped the class 465 going there
This is because Stannah is working with Network Rail to ensure accessibility at every station across the UK, and so a lift made by a lift comp any would be incompatible with the stations.
R.I.P GENERIC LIFTS!!!!! YOU WILL BE MISSED FOREVER (OTIS 2000VF -> JACKSON)
UL and LL and L
Try to get the fixtures I Guess, just put on a nice face in front of the people modernising the lifts and see if they’d be willing to give you any of them.
i know why they are relapsed them is the safety on the lifts and the money I hate this reason and i miss the old lifts so angry at Jacksons
Jackson Abomination lifts group... URGH
2:23
Beno: WELL DONE TO JACKSON FUCKING SHITHOLE
People watching this video who made it: Wow it’s very nice. How do you not like it, it’s the best elevator ever🥵🥵🥵🥰🥰🥴🥴
I Like Otis But, THE JACKSON LIFT IS AN AWFUL ONE!
Love KONE and like OTIS. Never been in a Jackson lift but I'm getting bad impressions of them.
Ah... Fuckson Lift Group is at it again, worsening lifts.
*Jackass Lift Group*
You have amazing taste
Most generic companies just want some money. There's no point of modernizing them.
first lift is putrid.
NO ONE'S GONNA STOP ME FILMING MODERNIZED GENERICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor Schindler lift R.I.P
The lift has been an terrible idea but the other ones have been modernized
Are you going to cry once the perfect schindler is modernized?
1:30 It's not the fucking upper mezzanine!!!
NOT UPPER MEZZANINE, IT'S UPPER MALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
No!
IS UPPER MOULTH
I'm feeling upset to a modernized and disgusting lift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm calling the police for fuckernizing Bromley glades
The modernised Otis 2000 VF by stupid Jackson company UM can’t open both sides at once any more because it’s now separate floors which means they have to take turns RIP😭😢😥🥺😿
Kone Needs To Replace The Lifts At The Glades Bromley With Ecodiscs
Only if it is set up well and has pre-doors. A Kone can just about match the journey time until doors open of a Schindler M series only if pre-doors are enabled. The final leveling stage is slower on a Kone, when a Schindler prioritizes journey time over everything and does not care if it overruns the floor slightly and has to relevel.
Kone Will Make Better Lifts
They Will Do Intelligent Levelling
Better Motor
Good Logic
@@benolifts Do A Video Called
"Mia Haskurti Wants Lifts At The Glades Bromley To Be Replaced With Ecodisc
Kone's levelling system is shaft bar and tacho. It is better than most but does the last bit of levelling slowly because it is scared of overrunning. It is not as good as Schindler, but if the engineer has set it up nicely and it has pre-doors, the journey time with the doors shut is no longer than Schindler, so in that sense it is pretty much as good as an M series.
There Are 90s Kone Lifts Modernised By Otis At John Lewis In Glasgow
1:28 Upper Mezzanine ITS NOT THE FUCKING UPPER MEZZANINE ITS UPPER MALL!!
JACKSON LIFT GROUP AND MARK HAYNES HOW DARE YOU?!