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Cartridge Needle Review - Tattoo Shop tech Talk
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Tattoo shop tech talk about cartridge needles.
In this review I talk about needles that we use in our shop and it's based on feedback from tattooists as well as personal experience.
This tattoo cartridge needle line up is - Cheyenne Craft needles, Kwadron needles, black box from wholesalebodyjewellery.com, T-Tech needles, EZ needles, Elite (2) and Unistar Ultimate needles.
I look at the needles from point of price per performance, built quality and comfort of use and safety.
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What is your favorite cartridge needles and why?
Tattoo Shop Talk I’m planning to buy tattoo pen. I want to know if the all cartridge needle will fit in any type of tattoo pen or there’s any specific type or brand..
Thanks
@@junniferuy8705 yes, they will
I’ve been switching between ttech and truetubes
@@junniferuy8705 As far as I know, the one exception is "DermiMatch" Tattoo cartridge and pen for SMP. Will only match with their own brand. Enjoy
@@achannel5066 DermiMatch pen is horrible, throws needles right out of the plastic cartridge when power is slightly above ten. The pen turns on around 3 to 4 and rattles like a kids windup toy... Also, their cheap machine, gives really bad results for SMP. The 1RL by DemiMatch spits ink all over rattles and causes blowouts that are uncontrollable. Their power supply is truly a 10 dollar unit they sell for 350! One thing they do not tell you is the RL stands for round liner and is the same RL found and used by tattoo artists! In other words DermiMatch is not the way to go nor are the SMP needles any different than a tattooing RL! A 3RL is best used for the bulk of SMP and 1RL for the hairline works best. 1RL fades quickly, whoever works best for blonds and red heads with 1/4 to 3/4 dilution of distilled water, premium black ink works fine no special ink is needed other than to test with alcohol to see if it turns blue. Drop black ink on paper towel and dilute with alcohol to see if it turns blue if it does not it is ok to use.
Can't be cheap when it comes to tattoos. Spend the extra get the best.
Da Vinci are my favorite so far , boxing is perfect look nice but more importantly they work amazing for lining and shading !
Thank you for this great review!
Hey there thanks for making such a nice and honest video! I used ttech for years because of the price and durability - Later on i also used quadron and meanwhile only craftys from cheyenne- i was shocked when you dit that dip-test!woow... cheers Nico
Thanks for input. I was pretty shocked as well when I did that. I thought it's like -: it might happen if you're unlucky but it's pretty much straight forward leaking in your machine
Awesome review man. Thanks
Yes, the stigma cartridge is very good but expensive (cheaper than cheyenne). It’s a very interesting construction as well. 🙂
Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina! Thanks for the video
Hello to Argentina people
I wanted to try prime flex + cartridges... I have used ez Revos before n they have a great membrane.
I think in my opinion, your list, EZ revo r the best
Pretty much tried everything out there and have settled on EZ Revolution, Steel Fang, and Helios being the best for me.
As everyone has said, great video!! Thanks!!
Great video! Thanks
Very helpful, thank you
Awesome video keep them coming 🔥👌🏻
Thanks
dude thank you.. video explains a lot.. thanks again
Thanks
Ez are the best solid needles and price is affordable plus you get 20 in a box 👌
Amen
Would love to hear what you think of tatsoul, prime+, and peak cartridges
What about FYT guys? As other guys mentioned, love EZ. Quite cheap in Thailand here but amazing quality. Also, Elite is better now and got nicer quality.
Can someone help me? I have a monster 1.82m audio cable will it be compatible with my bronc v2 hummingbird rotary tattoo gun and a bronc digital power supply
Set up a regular needle bar in grip and do that drip test
Just got my Da vinci 7rl's,omg they look so good
I like their 3rl and in general it's a quality brand.
Big wasp needles and quelle cartridges are the 2 brands i use because they are fairly cheap and they have been pretty consistent in quality have you used either one of them and did you like them if you have thanks for your videos
Tried T-Tech I tend to rest my finger on the cartridge and it seems to bend the T-Tech and cause a terrible sound. I found Cheyenne does not do that but the tip of the cartridge can pop off.
I'm looking at a brand metaprotekt? and the Cheyenne craft cartridge I feel one peace might be better.
I've gone through a lot of ordering of crappy cartridges.
Would love to cut through and find another brand, strong and well made like the Cheyenne.
I use WJX and Da Vinci really good cartridges
My favorite are Magic Moon, good membrane / good consistancy / low price - perfect performances
I am working with some of Magic Moon cartridges and somehow everything about them seems done right from quality to even a color chart of needle types on packaging. I would say that they are one of my top choices
my favorite needles EZ
Thanks for input
I have been using EZ.. they are very nice and consistent. Very nice flow.. and can last for very long sessions..
EZ are one of best mid range options
@@TattooShopTalk yeah I have tried over 6 or 7 different brands and my two favorite ones are Elite, and EZ.. and what is your opinion on the Raven rotary machine? I have been using one of the Raven machines for over a year now and it hasn't missed a beat.
@@johndoe-qf2kf the cartridge elite has membrane?
You should do a new video on this subject.
Black claw,kwadron,Cheyenne etc etc..
Would be perfect with all the various makes now .
Just a thought. Thanks brother
That is definitely not a bad idea. Thanks for input
thank you Brasil
Hummingbird cartilages big wasp cartilages both of them are my favorite has full membrane and the price is awesome as well consistency every time have not had a bad 1 yet......
Give Dynasty Cartridges a shot, they have been manufacturing needles for close to 20 years now. They have a membrane and the price is fair.
Thanks. I will check them out
Very informative video thx!
What you guys think about killerink cartriges?
We had precision cartridges some time ago when they were pricier and it was such a bad experience that I would not consider buying them again. As being "precision" product they were getting stuck pretty often and sometimes cap of cartridge would come of when you clean it. And stellar was nothing exciting as well. There's a video on them in Cartridge Needle Review playlist.
Nenga use pandra best tattoo ink company name pls 🙏 replay
magic moon are my favorites, EZ revolution work very well too, really disappointed when i saw that kwadron don't have a real membrane ...
Yeah. Kwadron was almost perfect you get what you pay for thing apart from membrane
Tattoo Shop Talk i don’t really understand why they don’t have one , technically all is ready for ! The tip is wonderfull slim, precise, incredible inkflow , grouping is really good, always in place due to the little needle bar ... the best IF they put a membrane ...
@@huginn_visuals hi!i was wondering,which magic moon cartridges are you using exactly?
Would have loved a comparison with the two Killer Ink versions and Magic Moon, but very nice review anyway!
Thanks. We got killer ink needles and we are working with them and there will be something to say about them. Magic Moon is something we need to get - have heard a lot good stuff about many of their products.
I try today killer ink stellar in 35-07 RS, they are simply good , i don t know if they are consistant but they do the job.
I tryed killer ink « cheyenne like » carts (the same but in grey) a lot of play everywhere and a very bad inkflow ...
Thank you for a most informative video, I'm very interested in getting into the cartridge system, still feel more comfortable with the old school disposable tube and needle combo only because I feel it's safer to just throw away everything when I'm done, My question is it necessary to autoclave the grip and plunger bar after each tattoo? I've seen other artist just wrap the grip with tape and never autoclave them, Is this standard when using a cartridge system? Any information on this question is appreciated
Not autoclaving grips is a bad standard that is very popular. I'm using disposable grips for Cheyenne and there a bunch of options out there if I run out I autoclave my Cheyenne grips after every time when use them (you can't take them apart and clean inside)
Tattoo Shop Talk Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it very much... would this apply to the plunger bar as well?
That's a "grey area". In theory if you put cartridges in a safe place or don't switch in between them and considering that cartridges have membrane then bars should be clean. Specially with machines with fixed bars I would be extra careful . But if that's the convert system and you can change it all - I would change bars all I can. Some disposable grips even come with bar
Thank you, Think I'll just go with the fully disposable system, plunger bars, grips etc, this way there aren't any grey areas, just absolute safety for my client. I rather spend the extra money and feel better about it, Thank you so much for your prompt reply. Peace
I wish more people would think like you
Very good review. Kwadron is no beeter cartridge. No membran, sound no good, neddle is no fixed. Very good is stigma cartridge, cheyenne, ez, elite3. In your review u use elite2.
Silvio Olivera what do you recommend with membrane? I'm about to switch to cartridges when I get my Xion in and I have to have carts with membrane.
Kwadron is a bit disappointing for the price. And Elite is confusing with those numbers. Will definitely check Elite 3. Cheyenne is on that price thing a bit of a downer.
I recomand elite 3 ez needle and cheyenne but no cheyenne craft.
I use steel fangs carts from phucstyx tattoo supply. Best prices and have the membrane.
Thanks for input. Seems that there are even more brands on continent of America.
I like the Steel Fangs carts too. For the price I was skeptical, but was pleasantly surprised after using them.
Best cartridges I’ve used next to Cheyenne
In 2023, are elite and kwadron better and still good to use?
Elite now has “infini plus” needles which are their newest and top tier. Any advice would be great.
Some people say kwadron has become inconsistent. Hmm!
I have not noticed consistency issues with kwadron and at the same time there are many new generations of cartridges that are very good quality and often at better price. Personally I don't understand the hype around kwadron - it's just a regular cartridge needle.
@@TattooShopTalk Thanks! I felt that way about the Kwadron standard needles. They're okay, but not really better than others. The Cartridge sounds the same. I ordered a bunch of the new spec Elite ones, the Infini Plus, so we'll see how they fair!
Only JUST jumped into trying the cartridge world, so we'll see how different the workflow is. Any tips? :)
Hi! Maybe you can help with something that bothers me a lot, just changed my tattoo machine to pen, first time, it is haaaard, 😇 Question: when working with needle, and your needle tip gets skin dust or something you just push your needle out and whipe gently, but what to do with cartridge? You can not whipe the tip? 🙈😂
Usually rinsing it and running over clean paper towel sideways does the trick. If you really need to get needle out then you have to remove cartridge out and push needle out - keeping in mind on not to get nasty stuff on plunger
Give me an analyse from point for elite you now is this good or not so?i use this a small time
Elite 3 is fine in my opinion
Txs dude great vid! Where are you from BTW?
Thank you
I am in good old Denmark
Order some Bishop Da Vinci cartridges if you do another, curious on the quality of them!
So far I can say that 3rl from them are amazing
Tattoo Shop Talk ordered some 14RS will be here Thursday! Hopefully they are good quality.
They feel well made and so far perform well and I will definitely get more
The stigma carts hold up well and don't leak. The only bad thing is they only fit to stigma grips .other than that I stick to Cheyenne
Thank you for input. No one at our shop is working with stigma at the moment. And we are usually looking for something that have more variations to work with ( like different machines) . On other hand Stigma have some interesting thing going on there.
I earned a stigma spear and it comes with a 35-05 liner and a 35-09 magnum. I will test it tomorrow for a little tattoo ... but i see that stigma carts are as expensive as cheyenne ...
guillaume herbepin let me no what you think of them
Little tat done this morning with stigma's carts: a 35-05 liner long taper and a35-09 soft edge magnum.
I usually work with 0.30 needles for that kind of grouping but they 're amazing ! confortable to hold thanks to the "umbrella" fingers are near de tip so the control is wonderfull. A very positive experience today with them.
T-tech have upgraded their needles. They have membranes now
It's their gen2 needles. It's in this playlist, video from beginning of year.
Why didn't u do the water test on Cheyenne cartridge??
Because I wanted to show how dramatic of a difference is to not have membrane at all. And also that is one of their main strengths so I would assume that it should be all good
Quality will ever wins against cheap amazon stuff.the best ever are Da Vinci and Cheyenne because the ever Brings the ink easy into the skin
Used Cheyenne needles with my FK irons flux and they hit like shit
You should have checked how the plunger moves side to side. If the plunger is loose and moves around, the needle will not travel straight down. The higher the speed you have your power set to the more your needle bounces around and will not hit the skin in the same spot even though you aren't moving the needle/cartridge. The membrane should not only hold back liquid, it should be stiff enough to guide the plunger straight down especially when holding the machine at an angle.
One of the benefits of rotary over coil machine is less vibration. Less vibration means more accuracy. A loose plunger and a soft membrane defeat the purpose. You want the plunger to move straight up and down or you might as well turn your power supply to top speed. Its far more important than any other aspect..... other than the membrane keeping liquids in the cartridge.
Far more important is maybe a bit strong but definitely valid point.
Any cartridges that you would recommend with best performance in precision
@@TattooShopTalk Point taken. I should of said that what's the most important to me. Opinions vary though and I appreciate that you're getting this info out there.
Peak is my favorite brand. Both the Blood and Quartz lines are fairly priced. You can actually get a sample box with various sizes of both for $14usd on eBay.
@@TheCancelCultwhats the difference between quartz and blood? just the color?
Have you tried magic moon needles as well?
Yes they're good. Have a lot of variations in tapering and groupings. I would say that only downside for the way I work they spill a lot of ink
Kwadron needles, can they be used in FK irons pens and Cheyenne pens?
I might be wrong... from I have read on some tattoo pages that Kwadron seemed too thin/narrow for FK Iron pens. On top of that they don't have membrane for whom that matter
@@TattooShopTalk thank you for the reply! I decided to just get Cheyenne needles instead
Kwadron .... no full membrane ... that sucks does it ?
That sucks for them who that matters. Otherwise Kwadron as Kwadron- good stuff
Any insight on quartz cartridge needles by peak.?
Found a bunch of new brands just from comments. Thank you all for input.
Soul Ink Studio definitely worth it
It’s funny how people in comments say oh cheyenne is nice but too pricey, but have no problem asking 200$ for a 1 hour tattoo, I always go with cheyenne, comeon, If u really believe Cheyenne is too pricey add 2$ more on the tattoo price and you’re all set up, work with the best, always .
I would say they are pricey for a small walk in type of tattoos let's say on 50$ tattoo and maybe you need two of them and considering the type of customer there will be touch up needed. On a bigger pieces use whatever suits you best.
Hawk is the best?
Hawk?
Hi! What’s your take on Quatat carts? Thank you
Have not heard about them nothing at all
@@TattooShopTalk I'm new to cartridges and Quatat is so far the most available in stores in our city. We do have EZ here but I'm not sure why they don't stock them up like Quatats. I tested them out like how you did(membrane concerns) and they did well too. Price is just right and for me, they're as close as match with EZ's. Try them out if you're still looking for options or something to review on. I like how detailed & helpful your videos are, thank you very much! :)
Thanks. If I get a chance I'll try them. There are so many brands out there and seems like same cartridges with different names as well and each supplier have their own brand on top of all that
@Tattoo Shop Talk
Where can I order top brand cartridge needles with normal international shipping. Everywhere I look it’s always express shipping and $200 for the shipping for just a box of cartridge needles. :(
Don't you have local suppliers? Also if you mention where are you located that would be helpful
@@TattooShopTalk Australia but they make it hard for upcoming and people who want to practice on fake skin. So need somewhere to get my supplies and not cheap China products. :D
90% comes from China anyway. I can't really comment on situation in Australia - I have no idea what's going on there
@@sendlocation8476 Ey bruz I’m from Qld, try hold fast tattoo supplies or justtat, oh and don’t buy the cheap fake skin it’s crap make sure you get 3mm thick fake skin it’s dearer but works…
@@michaeltrojak9031 do justtat sell to anyone? I’m not licensed
I like ez and Bishop
have to try those Bishops... here a lot of good thing about them
Bishop is awesome and mast cartridge is also very good ....strong tight sharp and dosnt make any noise like big wasp and sea cartridges I tried .... I'm gonna stick with Bishop and mast and if I need to I'll use ez since I read here in comments that it is good
What about wasp?
Can't find them at local suppliers
No Helios?
Not yet
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where is your shop?
In Denmark
Ja nav membrāna, ir skaidrs, ka tecēs (bet tai pat laikā, gravitāte dara savu), bet būtu interesanti redzēt, cik un vai tās membrānas tiešām aiztur visu krāsūdeni..
Come ooooooon... Tagad as par to domāšu. Bet in general es paļaujos uz to, ka ražotājs ir par to parūpējies (cerams)
Ooh green 😬
What's wrong with green?
Barber dts
Cheyenne is number one flat out can't get no better worth the money you get what you pay for just saying...
That is something that people who are sponsored by them say.
Not that it's a bad thing
thank you verymuch! Today kwadrow is working with a membrane, isnt it ? congrats
Yes. They have membrane now for some time now
How bout envy needles anybody
They seem to be popular choice for many. I haven't tried them yet.
Have you ever heard of zombie cartridges?
Nope. Is it something good or just another generic brand?
@@TattooShopTalk I heard good things about them but I can't find nothing about the cartridges origin at all. I don't think they are generic brand, they are mid range price. I mean a box of 20 7rl is like 19 bucks .I ordered some to see if is like them. They also have gen 2 model as well
@@TattooShopTalk instagram.com/bisibita2?igshid=rrxa37xfxihy
Seems like same approach like tatsoul did. Probably comes from same factory
HOLY GHOST
OK ... boooooo
recommend big wasp cartridge.
Big wasp brown tip is good
In my experience they are about the same as EZ
Wasp.
I hear this more and more