The Oregon Standoff: A Community Divided
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- čas přidán 10. 01. 2016
- Members of an anti-government militia have occupied the headquarters of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in a remote region of eastern Oregon for over a week, protesting what they claim is an overreaching federal government. The occupation is being led by Ammon Bundy and his brother Ryan, two sons of Cliven Bundy, a Nevada rancher best known for an armed standoff with the federal government in 2014 over a cattle grazing dispute.
The protest was sparked by the re-sentencing of two Oregon ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son Steven, to five years in a federal prison for deliberately starting fires on their property that spread to the bordering Malheur Wildlife Refuge.
While the media has referred to the situation as an armed standoff, more specifically, the "Oregon Standoff," the federal authorities have kept their distance, and the local authorities, led by Harney County Sheriff David Ward, are also treading lightly.
VICE News traveled to Harney County, Oregon to meet with militia leaders, attend town hall meetings, and speak with local ranchers whom the protesters claim to be representing.
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Even if you disagree or agree, notice that the Militia group is totally transparent, while the Feds are not.
thes a serious concern you raise there.
If only they had the money to payoff the feds, they'd than be transparent" so to say lol
God you are dumb. Lol
Bro do you feel like the goverment is trying to push them of the land to cover something up or are you saying the people are to dumb and they just cant make a decision on what they want to do whether its stay and be peaceful or stay and cause issues
Take politics out of this. This is a serious problem and by the time the common man wakes up and realizes what's going on weve done voted for our own enslavement and lost our natural born rights. That's a fact.
What happened to all the tanks and military equipment our government used in Ferguson?
Wrong skin color.
Lol
difference is that it is not in a populated area. I imagine that if this was a town hall things would be far different.
Maybe it's because of the lack of violence, things on fire and looting?
They aren't killing people shooting and destroying property like the rioters in Ferguson did.
There was not a single tank in ferguson.
JFK said it best and it works both ways: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
@@aliceshaw8265 You must work for the NSA. I didn't realize you guys had been listening to everything Americans say for so long that you know no Kennedy ever uttered those words.
What other country in the world can you march with guns in public protest and go back home without any consequences and then complain about not having freedom. How much more free can you get
JFK was a hack
@@jayfeezy9890Because we have had our rights slowly chipped away over the years. And if we let the left continue that trend, by the time we look, they will all be stripped away. That's what happen in the UK years ago with their guns and it just happened in New Zealand, the banning of AR-15s. The leftist motto is "NEVER LET A GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE" czcams.com/video/qGVAQOUi6ec/video.html
Exactly what will happen to
Quote of the century: "I am ME!"- random old lady from Oregon.
"Side? I am on nobody's side. Because nobody is on my side."
I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how they fly
I'm crying
@@rk7912 The Bor wars killing Youngsters !!! and singing about it !!
Some of the most powerful spoken word ever to be spoke
Hmmmmm... yes... the floor is made of floor...
The government doesn't own rights, the rights are owned by the people.
Xczar They were conquered shits been going on for 10s of thousands of yrs. Lets not act like your not a descendent of a group of people that did some fucked up shit sometime in the past.
And without the protection of government the individual will take your rights.
gmcdmax 17 exactly lol, that argument is so retarded
That's what no one gets about rights. It doesn't matter what rights you think you have, without a governing body of some sort, your rights are dependent on what the next guy thinks they should be.
@James Schrader it's under appeal last I saw. A mistrial was called on prosecutors not sharing some video and info with the defense.
Not really a clean bill of health is it?
In my country this would never happen
Sadly, it is happening to mine.
How is your H-bomb program going? lol
+Kim Jong Un Send some help over there pls Almighty Kim.
+Kim Jong Un namely because you killed them before they even had the chance to plan it out :3
+Kim Jong Un can your glorious people's republic please send kimchi?
That community looks pretty Undivided if you ask me.
@@joekim3307
What makes him a "retarded child?" Because you disagree with his interpretation of the video? He didn't insult anyone, certainly not you, and he didn't take a political position, so what's the problem? Serious questions.
The community was undivided because they seen through the bullshit!
Ranchers and country folk are not as stupid as the government and their agents the Bundy's think they are!
That's why this operation was yet another Bundy failure.
Terrorists and cults will often appropriate and parrot the local population opposition talking points to confuse the people ignorant of the situation.
Those out of state strangers chose my home as a target. Glad our SP defended themselves. They chose to bear arms against my home.
Zachary Holler we ain’t
@@spacecowboy1438 I'm not glad they shot that idiot. I'm glad those idiots left Oregon though. Stay out of Oregon.
The real question is, why do the feds insist on fencing off random fields in the middle of nowhere...
Its what's underneath well the tunnels.
@@danialphaomega trump demolished the tunnels you dumbass
Ask the Kalapya and the Paiute, they had similar "perpetual" land rights from the gov't
It doesnt matter if they are randon fields, land no matter the state it is in has value and gives the federal goverment a lot flexibility, even if they dont technically need it right now, just having the option to immediately tunrn it into whatever they might need without having to bargain with anyone is a great advantadge.
Because those lands are for all Americans, not just a few that want to use it for their Farm Animals.
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."
I can't believe this quote only has 3 likes in 3 years. Sheeple probably don't know what the word "beget" means...
The men are men and the sheep are nervous...
Except this wolf dont like that farmer and his sheep dog's.. Tho they taste the best
Best quote of the year! A nation of sheep 🐑 will beget a government of wolves 🐺 & a BUBBLE WRAPPED society. Say hello to the Democratic cult. Ever notice how ALL the government control freaks are Socialists, Communists & Muslims? No? Then you’re not paying attention & probably slept through your history class.
@@cliftonpearson8021 a "beget" is a French pastry. Everyone knows that.
this is cringeworthy
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Both of you can shut the fuck up
+Zeriaп correction, you specifically, can shut the duck up
+Zeriaп Wow, you are either a child trying to act tough, or an adult with waaaaay to much time on your hands. And if your an adult, grow up
+sverebebe kids
Europeans giggling at paranoid Americans not realizing they themselves have been so disarmed their memes have been outlawed.
@@Pikkabuu hey you all enjoy yourself in the next 10 years dont cry to America for help for the third time.
@@sapper12b68
Didn't need US help in the last two World Wars either! And there is no third one on the horizon unless US start going cowboy.
@@Pikkabuu sure it would have been "awsome" in Europe under stalin or Hitler. Or you know in wwi living under sister loving roylety that starts a world war and calls treanch warfare "sporting. Or now getting your rights stripped away by a unelected tyrannical government charging people for calling a man who has sex with a 9 year old a pedophile. We may not be perfect but at least we have free speech.
Theres a reason why we have a higher crime rate per million people
@@sapper12b68 bro they have rights hahah you really think we are the only country that has freedom of speech or less rights then us in general bro we dont even rank anywhere close to some place in liberal ways nor do we rank amongst the top 5 for freedom and high goverment standards or low whatever you want to call it like Canada has more rights then us the feds can smoke weed there now bro like get your facts straight before you start hyping USA up to be the greatest country ever we wouldnt want to go to war with half these country's we are like the one percent of countrys we broke hard headed ignorant and ungrateful for how beautiful our country is its actually sad.... sorry to the other people who arent Americans people like him give us a bad name smh
Its a shame these days that you gotta teach your kids to avoid police at costs, never answer questions, and demand a lawyer. You cant cooperate with crooks and corruption. Police are not out to protect the community, they're out to profit off your suffering, so hold your kids tight and defend them at all costs..You have to feel bad for the poor grandchildren who have to grow up watching their grandpa get shot over nothing on youtube.
I agree with you, I only want to point out that this is what happens when people allow people to hold themselves to a higher standard as others. You can't hold officers responsible for acting like human beings. Selfish, creative, complicated, ignorant, intelligent, insane human beings. It's our fault for thinking that the people around us are more special than we are ourselves.
@@nocturnalsingularity3138 Well, to balance that, they ought to be held to a higher standard regarding law and order.
For example: Let's say the fine for speeding is a buck (I wish). Well a city cop who goes over, ought to be charged two, a deputy three, and a State Trooper 8.
Also, leaders ought not to be above scrutiny or consequences just because they are half black, a Democrat, etc.
These days lol. Blk Americans actually deal with this on a regular basis. It's an issue when European Americans get that treatment. Mind you; blk Americans get harassed and these people were breaking the law. So gd entitled. You don't like American laws, get out. Go back to Europe.
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 yeah, I mean they should be I suppose. I'm just not capable of this though myself, because in doing so would mean that I in turn must view another person as more special then me, or then you. And I refuse to have the factual knowledge in my mind that this or that cop took a big nasty smelly dump this morning right around the exsact same time I did, and still hold them to a higher standard then myself.
Honestly, I believe that our society was structured out of pure power and ego, there was no true necessity for how it all began to become the way it all is today. No other reason aside from one guy wanted more and became a king who didn't have enough. No, long story short, we now have cops, judges, lawyers, bosses, and even neighbors who look down on anyone who they deem less then them. So... yep idk that's where my heads at tonight... hbu? You having a good day?
Look up the battle of Athens Tennessee
Eleven years old; interviewing a nationally known person; and left handed. Wins all around.
They need....snacks
Yeah...pretzels
+_ Hans _ some caprisuns would be nice too.
+_ Hans _ They have food, only dummies repeating a Colbert quote taken out of context would find this funny. They asked if people want to send snacks and other things for them, they clearly were not begging for snacks! hahaha, dumb SJW sheep
+_ Hans _ he need some milk
derty.QWERTY42N calm down there cowboy!
The majority of the people in that town hall liked the militia.
Edit: Re watching the video makes me realize how much Vice is trying to just discredit patriot militias. Its just blatant ignorance.
the people are scared. Just think their schools ae shut down and they have been cow cowin to the blm the whole county? And theyshould be out there with the Bundys but they know theyhave to live there after its over and they will continued to be bullied.
The majority? They where literally all cheering for the militia like they just made a touchdown in the superbowl
They did like the milita they were to afraid to say it though afraid because they have to stay in the town and the militia dodn't. They needed to come out and stand
NO THEY DID NOT!!! THEY SAID "WE DONT WANT OUTSIDERS TO B THE FACE OF OUR COMMUNITY!"
@@mr.giraffe7076 Did you even watch the video? Most of the hall wasn't even standing or clapping. The cheering sound is literally a cheer track lmfao
This has to be one of the most peaceful meetings I have seen in a long time.
It wasn’t peaceful the whole time
So, when are you gonna talk about the migrant attacks in Cologne that happened over the New Years Eve?
mujahidhancsar there you are i been looking for you.
Beartakedown You have been looking for me?
Yeah... I seen you on a Wanted poster!!!!!
+Elijah Proffit 3/4 of the attacks were comitted by native europeans and the other 25% by dark skinned as the girls said
+Juan Martinez You're not serious, are you? Nearly all of the witnesses said they were of 'Arab or North African descent'. Give me a source saying 3/4 were native Europeans.
Coming from someone who lives in Oregon, and doesn't live in the middle of nowhere (maybe by some peoples standards I do...) But I don't see a big issue with what these people are doing. They want what belongs to them back and I don't blame them for that.
The govt shot them with his hands in the air
@@Viralmoments2023 initially, and then he reached for his waist band.
@@danB25 yeah you have a right to defend yourself after being shot at first...
@@danB25 he had nothing is in his "wasteband"! He just got shot and reached in to hold it!! A natural reaction when one gets hurt!! THAT was proven, over and over!!! You still haven't learned a damn thing, because you don't really care!!
@@danB25You idiot Labor's gun was in the BLM building. You should inform yourself
The "PEOPLE ARE THE MILITIA"!
And it's time to rise
#McAfee2020
#libertarianparty
And the government is created by the people.
@@rk7912 no the govt is regulated by the people to keep a free state
"I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing," Bundy said in an April 10 radio interview.
@Jeg Hunckel he didn't say there wasn't an organization of armed criminals that call themselves government.
government *doesn't* exist. buildings exist, people exist, weapons exist- but government is merely an idea. it's an idea that has been subverted and changed for the worse.
@Jeg Hunckel if they are oppressed by their own govt then you are too, regardless of the fact you want your country men oppressed and take great joy in that.
@@auntjenifer7774 Yeah because the Bundys are soo opressed!
Alex Cruz different people
Neither do anarchists in Portland today.
They got the message " Another settlement needs your help" and jumped into action.
Man, that's reminiscent of the Texas Rangers.
The wildlife refuge is actually managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service...not Bureau of Land Management.
correct
Yes but the BLM manages leases and grazing rights
From an outside perspective of view, i see these ranchers as people fighting a tyrannic government, support from France for this cause
France was our first true ally and America will always respect you for that. I hope you make it through the civil unrest you guys are currently going through.
Support from America brother you guys have consistently helped us out especially during our nation's founding during the revolutionary war. I hope the protests remain peaceful and you guys vote macron out!
It'll be interesting to compare the Bundy case vs the CHAZ case.
@Steven Sweeden Except on one side you have a militia that temporarily, and peacefully occupied a reserve to protest the federal government managing public state land. And on the other side you have a bunch of leftists that occupied a part of Seattle, calling it an "autonomous zone", where over 4 shootings have occurred, and all the businesses have been destroyed.
@Steven Sweeden You're just making up complete garbage now. All Republicans are hard right, white supremacist, flat Earther, anti-vaxers? Talk about being an idiot.
@@ussocom3644 they weren't destroyed tho? wtf are you talking about
@@markhenley3097 somebody is dreaming
@@markhenley3097 only garbage comment is the one you left. Wipe your ass after you speak.
I was impressed but the meeting between Bundy and the sheriff. That's how civilized men behave. The don't loot and burn. God bless the Pacific Northwest.
Well let me tell u something mr. civility only works when it’s there kind so sorry not impressed at all
I don’t see military armored vehicles don’t see Police with military grade weapons don’t guard dogs all while they are clearly trespassing
You are an idiot trying to throw shade at people that don't have anything to do with this conflict, you are the problem. Racist People like yourself talk shit, online, to become a coward when confronted, alone.
An armed society is a polite society.
@@Hippobottomless "military grade" is a madeup term by liberals and republicucks that makes stuff sound scarier
5:00 Was he shot in the face?
+Born2BWild Probably a stroke.
Bull riding most likely a shattered jaw
+Born2BWild run over by car
+Born2BWild He's a sentient half melted ice cream actually.
+Born2BWild Chewing tobacco
It’s like how the song goes. “This land is my land, this land is my land, this land is my land this land is my land. “
I remember the police chief coming out and saying "this isn't what we do. We don't arm up and rebel".
Um dude, have you ever been in a history class? That's literally what we've done in two different wars
Exactly
Dude, maybe things change? Maybe how things are done change over time? Shouldnt you have learnt that if you attended history class?
@@m8s96 exactly. We learn that history so it's not repeated.
@@DB-yk2pthistory loops over and over 😊
wikipedia: "Some supporters of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) congratulated the takeover on social media and called for ISIL partisans in the U.S. to provide support to the militias." WTF :D
Reminds me south park. Hope there are no jews.
+Luftmausmann Lol! That's ironic!
+Luftmausmann You really think militamen support ISIS?? Quite opposite in fact. You must be crazy, and STUPID. Wikipedia is NEVER to be taken as any kind of reliable information, just plain lazy! People that slander facts, lie and stir are the worst kinds of people out there, you're one of them.
No. I did not say that. Read it again. It says that ISIS calls for support to militiaman. ISIS see this as conflict among Americans so they want to enlarge it. It make sense. ISIS ideology is partly inherited from Usama bin laden. He thought that military failure in Afghanistan would cause political instability in USA as it happend in Soviet Union. ISIS is still waiting for it.
+Luftmausmann
Screw ISIS.
"Daryl drove all the way from Washington to be here". That's one state over.......... What a trip.
I truly believe the idiots at Vice thought Washington state is Washington D.C.
They tried hard to make it look like he has nothing to do with whats happening, very dishonest by vice.
@@ATLAoftheHill except he said "Washington STATE"..
Depending on where he drove from, it could be a 7-12 hour drive. Washington and Oregon are large states. They aren’t piddly little Northeastern states you can drive through in a couple hours.
Jory Cassel The first town in washington right on the border is 300 miles away about a 5+ hour trip. I would say thats “all the way”. Plus he easily could have driven from northern of mid washington. That would be 400+ miles. Hmmmmm. Kind of all the way. 😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its still us vs them. Just like its always been...wake up people.
@Jo Jo """us"""" is the alt right who masquerade as freedom fighters attempting to secure liberties that aren't actually being violated just so that they can get more votes, """them""" is everyone else with more than 5 living brain cells
@@notefsir9690 You're an idiot. Us is you...the 99% them is the elites...the alpha tribe...the 1% you refuse to acknowledge exist. You're probably too busy watching television and idolizing celebrities to realize this.
Random Alien the one percent provides jobs for the other 99%
@@notefsir9690
manohman is one of them. Learn the way they speak and recognize them, then call them out as the grabblers they are. You have no idea how many shekels are paid/available to employ these minions.
Vice misses the point constantly. They don't even know the story they are trying to cover.
Its vice, what did u expect 🤷♂️
@@Stalker6622 well I mean they are the most critically acclaimed reliable source of news for the past 20 years
Vice was founded in 2013, 9 years ago
why are british people interviewing.
+toni g
Because it's a free motherfucking country, douchebag.
Any other stupid questions?
fuck allof that this is America speak American. Their voices don't sound better, sound like a bunch of uptight losers
because dear boy we are more refined and as a whole better researchers. The British education system is still leaps and bounds ahead of yours. As you Americans might say we 'kick your butts' in intelligencia.
+Kristy Niederkorn why in hells name would being a dual citizen be a conflict of interest-Britain has no interest in this pissing contest lol
Dude said speak "American" lmao He probably doesn't know ANYTHING about his own country's history lol
Did I miss it or does this docu not mention the rancher who was unjustly imprisoned over the back fire to his ranch and after serving his shortened sentence has now been re trialled to complete his 5 years. Cos that was the main crux of why the militia are there. Isn't it?
it isn't really that the case was reopen it was a appeals court that reviewed the case and were trying to enforce the law of how many years the pair need to serve for arson, since then from what I have learned the pair (father & son) have not wanted to do anything with this anymore and since turned them self's in to serve the rest of the sentence, but that's what I herd/learned so don't quote me on it
+Marina A They were not given the mandatory minimum of 5 years. So they tacked on more time recognizing time already served.
Marina A: Confessed and admitted arsonists. Both agreed, as part of a plea bargain, to serve the minimum sentence mandated by law. That is what they are doing. Nothing "unjust" about the result: do the crime, do the time.
It's a wildlife refuge for all the people of America the militia has no right to claim it.
2:25 “this is my home!!!”......camera pans to two native Americans
So what? That fight is over....they lost.
@@mozartfx1 didn't they fail at their standoff?
It is their home, they don’t know anything else.
@@mozartfx1 it's not over. That land belongs to the Paiute. I dare you to go there and say that to them. They're easy to find.
Not Sure ...and before the Paiute it was some other tribe of Indians who the Paiute slaughtered. When Europeans arrived the Paiute hadn’t invented the wheel mathematics or a written language. If Chinese or Arabs had been first to discover America...the Paiute would have been put to the sword. As far as the conquered people’s of the world go....the American Indians have been treated quite well I’d say. When America is destroyed it will be from within as well. It shows the importance of strong border protection and not allowing foreigners from different cultures to flood into your nation.
Just imagine some armed group of black people occupying government buildings saying they will not recognize the authority of the federal government... instant counter terrorism.
+113Robinho occupying government buildings in the middle of nowhere. That actually makes a big difference.
Nobody has been injured or has died during the occupation. also the property haven't been destroyed, looted or been set on fire. Now if any of those above happen then you will see action take place.
K1LLAGHOST
Come on guys be serious. Imagine anyone else but conservative white guys occupying anything saying they are gonna shoot at the cops if they enter...
Though i don't think the cops should do anything as long as there is a chance to solve this without violence.
if this was a Muslim or a Black armed group, I can guarantee the authority would have gone in guns blazing
+F145h1 that's exactly what liberals do. PS islam is not a race...
Most minorities live in urban areas therefore if land is occupied in a city by an armed malitia it would effect more people. Where they are occupying changes nothing at all, it is land with nothing on it. "Armed" doesnt mean they are dangerous.
+SuperAirsoft19 did he say it was a race?
"If they were Muslim are black" he's pulling the fucking race card.
that isnt a race card, that a popular area of people that have the media's attention when it comes to violence
9:25 The gentleman on the left (the one that said “thank you”) was shot and killed in a non-defensive and unjustified use of force by law enforcement not long after this was filmed. He was on the way to meet with the Sheriff. He told law enforcement this. The video is available here in CZcams.
Steven Sweeden That case particular was egregious. It’s like they were making an example out of him as a message for anyone thinking about standing up against government tyranny. There were a lot of questionable situations in that whole debacle. Either way, his shooting was unjustified. Have you ever watched the video from inside his truck? Law enforcement was shooting into the truck, which had several passengers (including women); there was zero reason to do this, as this was after Finicum had been shot. No one had given the cops any inclination that they were aggressive, much less justified opening fire. This was indiscriminate fire; lucky no one was shot.
The video of Finicum being shot was messed up too. I didn’t even know he had a handgun. It certainly wasn’t obvious that he was reaching for one. He had also been clear on his intentions earlier. He was actually on his way to a meeting with a nearby Sheriff who was sympathetic to his cause.
@@dr.lyleevans6915 that's right, more proper training for the police. They are far too trigger happy, especially if they are facing any black folk :/
@@ali.e7860 more whites are shot by police than blacks
Rip lavvoy finnicum
@@XDWX is it a competition. Also you realize there are more whites than blacks in the us right … so yeah, I’d hope so.
Federal Government Should Not Own State Land.... It is State & Privately Owned Land...
will you join them then?
Monsanto would agree with you.
If the federal government cant own land, exactly who did the homesteaders get their deeds from? Indians? Don't get twisted. The Bundys aren't heros they are deadbeats who don't pay their grazing fees. 99% of ranchers do. This ain't about land, its about welfare.
You are using logic under the idea of the Fed 10 documents where the states controlled more power than that of the federal government, but that led to the fall of a lot of different currency’s and a large divide in the nation. If that document was still used into today’s world our continent would most likely look like the European continent. The constitution and dec of independence led to a larger federal government which led to the United States becoming actual formal country. If states had more power there would be now United States their would be several country’s contained inside of the North American continent and probably several other internal wars. These people are saying it’s nowhere written in the constitution that the federal government can own land or have institutions just like you are saying, but yet again that’s under your own interpretation. The U.S government uses things like the supremacy clause, necessary and proper clause, the 10th amendment, and the part of the constitution where it talks of federal “implied powers” (powers given but not specifically determined in the constitution) this has led to a strong nation today and continues to help millions upon millions of people to this day. I hate people that decide to try and determine they can do stuff with out the proper information or knowledge to do it. This refuge did nothing for ranchers and that protected land is helping the world climate today.
This is the definition of “entitled”. They think they own public land but they don’t. Assholes.
They will get bored and cold soon and leave im sure
Nah, these idiots are the same ones that had that long standoff before with the fed gov. They are a bunch of lying hypocrites. Feeding off the fed gov and refusing to pay taxes. Then trying to turn around and blame the gov. Typical American conservative. They are just trash. I hope the fed gov comes down hard on them once and for all. End their bullshit permanently
Taxation is theft under duress, its literally armed robbery.
+mjvjohnson The ranchers have been robbed by the federal government and fed scraps in return. Do some research before calling people hypocrites.
+Marvin Mardel Taxation is needed for modern countries to exist man.... How the hell do you expect civilization to even function? The generosity from Corp or the rich? When in history have they ever? Wth
mjvjohnson Philanthropy is not a government invention.
And if you are worried about civilization you should be worried about government overreach since governments, historically, have been responsible for the destruction of all that is "civil".
im proud of the bundys
You're an idiot if you don't believe the Bundy's aren't on the government payroll!
You’re proud of racist, so you must be one too, all of you are
Salute these guys. They’re right, the governments wrong, good for them for making a stand.
2:34 this is MY HOME!!! *native Americans grinning
Anyone else can take land but Europeans is what I’ve gotten from the internet
And those natives took it from other natives and probably from other native groups before. Much like every piece of land on earth. Ppl just upset bc natives had no technology and white boys show up with big guns and took over land that they took from other ppl
@@gabe3770 people are upset because now native americans have had their entire cultures, languages, and ways of life nearly extinguished from the face of the earth and are now pretty much the most consistently impoverished ethnic group in america
Timber Ghost I’m with you man, it’s just sad to me that so many natives today are living off of welfare checks and relying to alcohol because they were suppressed. Not saying history should be different, but two wrongs definitely don’t make a right and sailing across the ocean and decimating populations is a little cruel to say the least
We killed the Natives to make this our home. If they can kill us, it can be theirs again.
I watch this video and see a news story with a bias point of view. It is news that is presented to the people like this that is shameful. You show 1 interview from a "rancher" that is against the occupation but show no "rancher" that is for the occupation. There needs to be a open un-bias approach to getting information out, honest information, and then let people make their decisions based on truth and openness. I honestly don't know if the stand off is right or wrong, but I do know that this news story is very sad, and did not do anything to truly educate people of the situation going on. Knowledge is the true power, so get out there and get it.
@Rielero805 He's asking for unbiased news, and you call him a delusional, loser scumbag. Do you wish to have biased news?
And it is the only rancher that isn't local and that anyone on that side has an issue with...and it's being reported by someone from the UK. Hmmmm.....
There were no real ranchers that wanted these people there. It was a non issue locally. This is my back yard.
Duality. Exactly. When there is a media bias the American people need to wise up and realize they are being funneled to believe a certain thing.
There are those willing to fight for freedom if nessesary. When it comes down to your freedom or your enslavement...what are you gonna do? These are the brave Americans that have and are continuing to fight for our freedoms. God bless them!!! Pray for these brave men.
You damn right very well said
Everyone wants the freedom,but don't wanna put the work in. SMH
Leroy gave his life. Hush
You can be a dead hick in the snow. See how that turned out for him.
This land is my land, this land is your land......
I loved hearing the rancher at the end ask how their community could possibly take care of their lands without the help of the Federal Government. Maybe he should ask the local Native American tribe how they managed it for so many thousands of years before.
I dont exactly agree with the method of action here although I feel like this report is a bit one sided. I find it hard to believe that there are no local residents that actually appreciate this occupation. I also have to wonder why the original catalyst for this occupation was never mentioned by anyone in the report:
Two ranchers who lit fires to protect their own land, and property and in the process protected and raised the value of federal land were charged as arsonists under a terrorism law. They never put anyone in danger and despite having previously taken and served out a plea deal they have been arbitrarily ordered back to prison for a mandatory five year prison sentence( violating the double jeopardy clause of the fifth amendment)
Did no one that you interviewed bring this up? or does Vice just not think this small detail is important. I was expecting a lot more from vice on this piece
While I'm not keen on unruly anarchy, or unreasonable demands in an occupation, but the Finican shooting by state police, mainly the rounds fired AFTER Finican was killed. Use of deadly force is NOT a blanket cover for shooting the shit outta anyone there. I find it EXTREMELY disconcerting that more and more frequently, police are okaying their officers spraying bullets all over, quelling what they feel is a threat. On one occasion, police shot the unarmed woman that called them...
This is exactly what I'm talking about it is time for Americans to wake up and realize that America will not be taking from the outside it will be from the inside out and I love my Country and Freedom and will die for it
Kicked off the people’s land in the name of Uranium One!
Shucks. Still haven't gotten that uranium. Still just a wildlife refuge.
well done Vice. some of the most unbiased coverage I've seen.
It's not like this no more
This was NOT unbiased at all
Right lol they painted the whole thing as the militia was automatically the bad guys. They didn’t interview or try to interview any of the ranchers that wanted them to stay
A lot of people in this comments section sure do like the taste of boot leather
Its a **Wildllife** Refuge for the environment.
Lol not the best public speaker
I talked to 3 ranchers so we're staying.
+Nathan Freeman We are accepting your gracious offer... but not today!
+Nathan Freeman did you just thumbs up and comment on your own comment? Holy shit you need some friends XD
+kenithish lol no I didn't
+kenithish now I did 😎
Stupidity. Stupidity everywhere. This is just embarrassing.
either the ‘gov’ owns it, charges for parking and maintenance or one to a dozen patriotic private folks own it, then closes it off to ‘the people’?
Third option: give it back to the natives and have them manage it, and have powows ect. Come one come all.
Tom Sharp? The guy that works for the government? I love how Vice portrays him as a humble rancher.
Source?
7:31
America is not ready for mental health reforms
Kudos to the Bundys. the Militia, all the Ranchers and Supporters. May that meet with success.
KatherinVII all charges were acquitted by a jury in a court of law.
That THOMAS PAYNE QUOTE GAVE ME DEEP CHILLS
the quote didn't make any sense within the context it was being used, as the militia was the one sparking the conflict.
Interviewer was very dynamic and personable. Where do you find all the good ones VICE?
Why didn't vice interview someone who were for the militia that was a rancher?
+ultrabeing1 Yea why? maybe there aren't any.....
Yeah, vice was showing some blatant bias there. It's not like they didn't find one, they filmed one speaking at the town meeting
+magicblanket a lot of hands shot down when the sheriff said they need to go.
Freddy Gray didn't get this sort of dialog. And he didn't do anything except occupy a public city street.
@Lvl 1 Togepi HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
We need them all over the United States yesterday
They despise land control so they come to defend....those who stole this land from the Paiute. No lack of self awareness here!
it feels like a documentary. this is good stuff, thank you!
I live a little more than 100 miles (not shit if you know Oregon desert) away in Wasco county, Oregon. I am super pissed that a shit resident from Nevada, ( I would rather a lawyer or a salesman "speak" for me than a resident of Nevada...especially a fundamentalist cow-god worshiper.) thinks that they "speak" for me and my Oregon trail ancestors.
What I say to you Bundy... and your buddies...bring your cows...see what happens to your cows. The best way to get attention to any one person is to screw with their job. (Cows.)
Liz.,.I live in Texas...I'll come and support these guys any day for standing up for all our rights
I'm native an I'll tell ya had no business In Oregon ur problem with government ain't same as ours you got no right
my understanding is that the bundy event came about because of BLMs malicious prosecution of ranchers that had a prescribed burning (conventional agricultural tool) get out of hand. The feds went after the ranchers with charges of arson which seem to be completely inappropriate.
In the end, local juries sided with the bundy activists and did not convict anyone for the occupation (seems like a clear and powerful jury nullification). Too bad the original travesty of imprisoning the ranchers who made a mistake with the prescribed burning wasn't also corrected.
@En' Peacee Shekelstein that is a travesty!!!!
I wonder what would've happened if they were natives
like wooden knee? (1973)
Well if they were native americans obviously there would be some backlash from the right. But it would depend on the how they were acting
+Luftmausmann Ummm... "Wounded" Knee? I'm guessing that's what you meant.
+Cubroncs03 yes. Dyslexia my secret shame.
"wooden knee"
"The War of Santa Anna’s Leg Takes a Big Step Forward"
www.wsj.com/articles/the-war-of-santa-annas-leg-take-a-big-step-forward-1478448713
Got to admit, the cops are being pretty chill.
I am worried about the long run.
The officer is right about one thing, all it takes is one nut job, one bullet, one rumor, one misscommunication, ext to make a 2nd Ruby Ridge.
I am 100% for guns rights, but I also believe in being civil and sane!
+equarg if you understood why we have the second amendment, you would have no problems with them being armed.
+SuperAirsoft19 the context and the intent of the 2nd amendment when it was written then till now has drastically changed
you are a complete dumbass. that's like sying your right to free speech was only meant to include the old English spoken in the 1700s. 2nd amendment was made to protect ourselves from a tyranny government, just like the one we have today. learn your fucking facts, kid.
+Brandon Parra The intent of the second amendment hasn't changed, It still protects a citizen's right to own and bear arms, regardless of who wants to "interpret" what it means to better suit their agenda. My right to defend myself hasn't changed a bit since it was signed, and neither has the document itself.
+SuperAirsoft19 People don't have true free speech anyway... you are not allowed to give out trade secrets... free speech is different now to what it was. Everything changes over time. If we as westerners didn't change over time we would still hold medieval mindsets like the islamics.
I’m an infantry veteran, these men have done more to protect American freedom than I ever have.
Militias man...
I am one of those men but no sir we dont hold a candle to you we are just trying to deserve what you and other veterans did.
That sheriff should be jailed what a pos he betrayed his oath
How? From what this video says, the majority of the people wanted them gone.
@@danB25 not to mention the dumb hick tried to pull a gun. You pull a gun on me you’re going 6ft under.
That rancher Cracks me up. All the more reasons to end the Fed!
2:24 "I am me! This is myy Home!!" > and then the camera moves to two indigenous people. Nice third touch :)
@Scorpio1964 Wines you think..? :)
Who ever have a gun is call “Sir”
I actually live in Oregon and had no clue this is going on
Dude, this was 4years ago
Staged by the government. Again
Vice you almost won my heart!!! Big thanks for being fair and balanced.
Where's the British Redcoats when you need them.
Dead
These ranchers are EVERYTHING America is supposed to be.
There is a subliminal bias throughout alot of their videos
Not so subliminal.
Yeah, a bias toward the Truth.
@@rk7912 if your truth is communism.
Why was part of the dialog cut out of this video? That makes this look like you had an agenda in doing this in the first place. That is not collecting news, it's false reporting. I hope everyone saw that this was a cut video. If I lived there I would have welcomed these men and women who want to put their lives on the line for my freedom.
I wonder how the feds would react if US citizens of North African or Middle Eastern descent would try exactly the same thing.
+BlueonGoldZ Yeah right, white men never blew shit up or burned down towns, especially in the US...
These men are threatening to shoot cops if the cops come out and do their duty. If you think that's okay, just repeat this harmless experiment: call the cops and tell them you will shoot them if they show up on your private property...
JerehmiaBoaz Well aside from the Oklahoma City bombing, white folks don't typically do the blowing-up or burning of shit down in this country or most countries. As I said, there was Ferguson, Baltimore, L.A. riots (I was there), Watts Riots and others).
The men were threatening to shoot ANYONE who came in their and fired at them. You literally see them talking peacefully with the cops right there. I could theoretically call the cops and tell them I would shoot them if they come on my property but 1.) they aren't going to do that because there is no need for them to come to my property and 2.) if they don't have a warrant then they are intruding on my property and are liable to be shot.
+BlueonGoldZ Correct, but if the white folks do the blowing up and burning down, they set the whole world on fire. The men are occupying government property and are threatening to shoot anyone who uses violence against them. When you do a hostile occupation of others' property and refuse to leave it peacefully, eventually cops will come and use violence to get you to leave. They are threatening those cops who are bound by duty to remove them with force if necessary, and I think they don't fully realize just how close to death that brings them.
If you threaten to shoot people/cops, the cops do have an urgent need to seek you out and ask you some questions. Because you threaten them, they won't take risks and shoot first and ask questions later... Just go ahead and try it out if you _really_ don't believe you'll get in a lot of trouble and you'll probably die if you do anything stupid.
+April E So you're allowed to occupy government property under threat of violence and start making demands for the release of prisoners? They themselves realized this is terrorism plain and simple, so after the prisoners refused their help and got them an easy way out they quickly changed their tune and started making demands for billions of dollars worth of land.
This might sound smarter to some but it's not, they're still making demands to the government under threat of violence and we all know government can't give in to such demands.
+JerehmiaBoaz Actually, The Black Panthers have done things like this several times. And they were left alone.
Now they know how native Americans feel .
Lol my old platoon sergeant in the marines was the voice in the beginning talking about peace. That’s Jon Ritzheimer. He was a great guy.
One day each and everyone of you will be joining these men. Unless you live in a major suburban area, or major city, the federal
Government will one day be coming for your land too.
One day each and everyone of you will be joining these men. Unless you live in a major suburban area, or major city, the federal
Government will one day be coming for your land too.
They want to be able to use public land for their own benefit. They don't care about the environment or wildlife, they just want what they want. Why do they think they have the right?
Exactly
Has Ryan Bundy had a stroke?
I think he has palsy
Ain't it something how people will endlessly complain about the government then when someone takes a constitutional stand they'll try to discredit them based on race or political aligning or some other trivial detail? Weird how that happens.
It’s crazy I live in Oregon and go hunting not far from burns and I never even heard of this
new information today police ambush them and killed some of the protesters and injured Bundy but course no police officers were injured
end the feds
If Waco is anything to go by sure you can have all the rifles you want but what happens when the armoured vehicles and tanks show up?
Why is or was Ammon in jail? Just watched his interview from jail
These men are not domestic terrorists. These men are real patriots.
Matthew Lauer Thank god for these patriots people need to wake up the federal government can’t do what it wants an armed militia is needed in every state to stop tyranny
2:31 the natives reaction to what that lady says 😂😂😂😂
Native Americans: 🙄🙄🙄
Here I was thinking a ranch was a very large farm, you know 1000 head of cattle or so. Not a couple hundred acres wth 125 head of cattle.
The female rancher stands up and says "I am me." That's an incredibly profound statement...I think.