Let's Give Some Honest Politicians a Try for a Change! 7 July 2024

Let's Give Some Honest Politicians a Try for a Change! 7 July 2024
The Tories, you have to admit, told us more lies than any political party has even done before.
They put liars, loonies and incompetents like Johnson, Truss and Sunak in charge of the country.
Now we have people who say that they will serve the best interests of our country, rather than their own bank accounts.
Let's give them a proper chance at getting it right!

[@chrisbeard1750]

Since when was any political party, of any colour or creed, honest. Come on Old Geezer, get real.

[@OldGeezersDiary]

@@chrisbeard1750 Well, we don't really know enough about the current Labour party to judge. We do know for sure that the Tories have liars, like Johnson, loonies like truss, and self server like the ten or twenty who made millions out of COVID PPE . . .

[@SamiiYou]

The reason that politicans lie is because if they told the truth then no one would vote for them: No politican is going to admit that the UK has been in a progressive decline since at least the early 90s - well, since the WW2 if we're being completely honest - with both Labour and the Tories being at fault and that there are just no real fixes to this situation, or immediate fixes anyway. To provide a very, very loose example if you raise taxes then that leads to decreased growth which in turn leads to less funding, however if, conversely, you lower taxes then you simply get inflation that in turn lowers the value of capital that in turn leads to less funding. Almost all governmental policy follows this damned if you do, damned if you don't vicous circle. The idea that one lot is going to get in and fix everything that the other lot buggered up is just the lie that politicans push because reality just doesn't work that way, especially when, in the case of Labour, they're actually the ones responsible for buggering things up to begin with, or at least as much as the Tories are. In an ideal world we could just end this pointless Punch and Judy show and replace it with something better, but we're just stuck with what we've got, short of a revolution, and well the last time they tried to have a revolution in Britian it rained and everyone went home - I wish I was making this up.
In the same way as the Devil is just going to give you what you want; a politican is just going to tell you everything you want to hear. With one lot being no better than the other lot. It's like a fat person going to a doctor that tells them they look beautiful over going to one that tells them that if they don't lose the weight then they might not see much of the wrong side of forty. Sure you could blame the doctor for pandering to their patients just to get a little extra business but at some point you're going to have to attribute some blame to the patient for disregarding the flipping obvious. Look, we're a cynical and skeptical people, maybe if we returned to that and stopped treating these idiots like Gods that are going to solve our problems then that would be a start.

[@johnw574]

lowering tax leads to inflation - only because taxes exist only to reduce inflation while government printing of money and spending stays the same. If taxes decrease and public spending decreases, people gain more from the work that they do, they work harder, they produce more goods, the goods cost less per unit, inflation reduces. Governments are damned if you do, damned if you don't because people want their cake and eat it. They want a nice cushy, easy life but also be prosperous. It doesn't work like that. You can have an easy life and be poor or you can work hard and be prosperous. It works on an individual and societal level. People will say, oh but we work hard and we want what's owed to us, blame big business and capitalism for hoarding all the wealth and then spend every penny at Amazon, Disney and Ebay.