Should I start charging LUXURY LABOR RATES?? Lexus LS400 starter Replacement √ Fix it Angel
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1990 1991 1992 1993 1994 Lexus LS400 1UZ-FE 4.0L V8
Replaced the starter on a 1990 Lexus LS400 for a friend of a friend.
This repair was done in April 17, 2013 with a hand held camera, Samsung HMX-W190. The time when i started to video my repairs.
I could not afford the Gopro Hero 4 at the time. But the video still looks good.
If you are wondering why I didn't show video of me putting back the parts. My camera was already low on battery and it was getting late.
If you are wondering how to put everything back together. Just watch the video in reverse.
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Add intake and plenum gasket install fees, clean carbon from intake, o-rings for injectors, all the small things that will make this a proper starter replacement. I like your work man, respect for you and your family. 🤙
Yes you should charge extra, that was a hell of a labor.
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Angel, you have dismantled the whole car to get the starter out. Wow. Great job
Still manage to do it with a camera! You are awesome bro, take care be bless and wish you the best for 2021 💯💯!
Thanks! You too! Best to you in 2021!!
I changed out the starter on my 1996 LS400 many years ago. It was a rough job down in between the banks. Not a fun job
im doing it this week on a 97...i still need to get the water outlet gasket and O-rings..did you get the gaskets and where can I find them?
I assume your hourly rate is way cheaper than the main dealer. Please don’t forget that your equipment needs to get paid for, you rough yourself on the floor while fixing cars( the list could go on and on) and when you deal with so many cars, you never have enough tools, no matter how many tools you have, there is a day that you end up with a specific job that you need to buy a specific tool for that car. If people are not happy with your hourly rate, they can start buying tools and fixing their own cars. Believe me, they will change their minds about how much you charge. 😃😃You are not a charity, you do what you do because you need to earn your living. Happy new year.
thank you for th e comment. i really appreciate it. Happy New Year!! God Bless
@@FixItAngel you are very welcome.
Half of the engine has been disassembled in order to replace the starter bunker in the core of the engine ... it's a complicated engine .... well done .
Yeah, Toyota Tundras are like that too.
Yeah Toyotas today are not very difficult but more time consuming than they use to be like the 4age engines
Toyota knows if you own a Lexus you'll probably won't be doing you're own maintance. So they design in expensive maintance procedures. It's all about after sale , sales..
@@pugchronicals1374 then why make it so reliable...
@@pugchronicals1374 Exactly. Toyota knows they can skip on ease of maintenance with Luxury cars. Part of the luxury is not having to work on your own car lol
Beautiful and reliable but when it's time for repair it's time to cry.
Damn, mad respect man... if a friend asked me to help with the starter and I can't visually see the whole thing without disassembling a few parts, I'd turn em away! LoL... it's like the designers were like, "and this is our v8 model, it fits in the bay perfectly!" "Ugh, where's the starter?" "SHII...uhm, we can put it in this little space here, more money for the techs!"
Haha
That’s crazy that you have to remove so much to get at it, and even after all that it’s still difficult. Crazy design. Wonder what dealership would charge for that job? 8 hours labor? More? Great video, now how in the world do you remember how to reverse the procedure? Wow!
Best way to put back everything in reverse order is to label everything an line it up in order an when u start putting everything back just do it reverse order
I did this on my SC400 (same engine as the LS400) in 2020. I had almost NO experience fixing cars at that time. Took me 70 hours. I started on August 2nd, and finished on October 2nd. I think the shop standard with a lift, pro tools, and (obviously) a pro doing it, calls for 15 hours.
Mind you, I did end up replacing both valve cover gaskets, and ALL the connectors, grommits and O-Rings associated with the fuel injectors too, because every single connector basically shattered, the second I touched them.
@@Maplecook that's great bro I'm not that experience but I can do a lot of the mechanical work on cars I did my timing belt about 3 months ago for the first time I was a lil scared that I could mess up but now actually I think it's not that hard I did have to remove a lot of stuff to get to it but over all I'm proud of myself for that
@@josearana7704 I think that the fact that you did the TIMING BELT on this engine, is AMAZING, bro! I will tackle that next. Last timing belt, my two buddies (who are very good with wrenching) did it, and I basically just watched, with the understanding that it would be my turn next. haha
We had a DEVIL of a time, trying to undo that crank pulley bolt, man!
@@josearana7704 When I did my starter, for EVERY single component that I unbolted, I put the fasteners into a separate baggie, and labeled it, and put all the baggies into a box, and ordered them in the sequence that they came out of the car.
When it came time to reassemble, I just worked backwards through that box, until no baggies were left.
This has to be the best tutorial I've found so far about this job
oh nooo the infamous Toyota V8 starter. Great job Angel, that job it not for the faint of heart. I could never do it.
My goodness what a royal pain for a starter!
Wow never seen a starter inside the intake manifold that's crazy engineering Lexus.! And to insure that a starter replacement has to be done by a professional So much for the DIY guy. That motor had so many vacuum hoses just stuff all over the intake I must admit had me scratching my head and second guessing if I could do this job. Fix it Angel you rock.! Professional Philppino🤣
I love your videos hardly any talking but u show everything clear...god bless you and your family..
You won't fix that on the side of the road! Man that was hell my friend, my head was hurting just watching!
''Toyotas are well designed and so easy to work on''
Toyota: *Uses timing belts on DOHC V8s and mounts starter under the intake manifold*
Agree. Replacing a starter on a 2015 Toyota Camry is really easy. Just remove the air box and the starter is there. The only trouble that you have to go through is removing the top radiator cover and that's easy.
But I' ve Heard of Starters on the LS430' s Lasting 450,000 MLS.& Longer. My 01 Tundra V6 Gear Reduction Calif.Emissions Starter Lasted 596,000 mls.& My First Fuel Pump lasted 476,000 mls.on Same Truck.
@@edcain3676 That's 5 and 7 timing belt jobs respectively, which is not negligible when a timing belt job costs between 800-1200$. Here in Canada we can't keep cars that long anyways because they rust out with the salt. Most late 90s to early 2000s Toyota trucks here were in the scrap yard by 2008.
That job looked like apple pie when the hose clamps come off with such ease. Midwest :every single clamp, bolt, wire and connector falling apart like a saltine cracker.
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Wow. You just about pulled the engine out. Better hope the new starter lasts quite a while. You dont wanna do that job again. Great job and nice video.
Nice job! Hope that new starter was good, would hate for you to have to do this twice.
I would definitely use a top quality replacement starter in a case like this
Well said for this job OEM or better. 👍
Whatever you were paid, you earned it plus extra. Thanks for sharing the video.
For an excessive amount of work to remove and replace a starter like that, I would charge almost dealer cost.
Holy Cow! The more you removed, the more I wondered "Is this guy f**king with me?!?!?...."
That was just crazy! Maybe you should have changed the timing chain while at it....I mean, right??
Maybe rebuild the engine.
Timing belt on the front and you don't have to take all of that off to get to it. But I kind of agree with you if you've got that much stuff taken off and if you were close to needing the belt changed it might be worth it to do it at the same time. Starter failure on these is not very common unlike the North Star v8s from GM which also had the starter under the intake.
not uncommon to get three or four hundred thousand miles out of one of these engines they're really really well made. Also one of the most mechanically quiet running and vibration free, engines I've ever heard.
I say if you have to take out half an engine to get to the starter, then you should charge by the difficulty of the work and not so munch by the type of car (I.e. luxury) but keep the cost less then a dealer. You are’s providing quality service at a fraction of the dealer cost. Thanks for you’re doing.
I love your videos man. Thanks so much for doing this. I come home from work, make dinner, and watch your videos. Best way to end a long day
Thank you Samuel for watching. Have a great week.
So many things to remove for that one starter!!! Gosh. At the same time you can see the carbon buildup.
Your videos are great, but they are more than wonderful when the car is Japanese🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵
I would not trust myself in putting it all together again. Your a great mechanic!!
I can feel the pain
I can't get enough of this guys repair videos. Makes me wanna go take something apart on mine lol
LOL thank you for watching
My starter just went and I'm gonna try to follow your video to replace it. Will update how it went
Yes, in a case like this; yes to Luxury labor rate. I've not seen many cars like this, but to take apart that much; that much time ONLY for a starter....
Starter is in the same location for the Toyota 4.7 liter engine on the Tundra/Sequoia. Denso uses heavy duty contacts, brushes and bearings on these starters due to their location. I highly recommend replacing it with a Denso starter. Cheap starters and Oriellys and Auto Zone are not rebuilt to those same Denso standards. I’ve done this before and it is a lot of labor to access this starter.
Homie did the whole job with one hand!!! 😮Sheesh!
But why didn't you just go through the starter access panel in the wheel well?
JUST KIDDING!
Seriously Angel, you did an awesome job. Your videos are so helpful. Thanks for posting.
LOL good one. Thank you Have a nice day James
Wow what a heck to that job just to replace the starter need to dismantle everything your so good Angel
I am so eternally grateful for this video ❤
Nice guys finish last.
I once gave a brother-in-law a free, yes free, Camaro. He complained the brakes needed work.
You should show a glass of water sitting on the intake Plenum as the vehicles idling! You know like the old Toyota commercial!
That 1uz is a cool engine even though it takes a little more time to work on!
Amazing how you get all this done with basically using just one hand. You’re the man
Wow. This reminds me of the time I decided to put an engine block heater into our Lexus400h. It was sold in LA and we imported it, and it wasn't prepared for cold Canadian winters. When i called the local Lexus dealer, their parts department quoted $180 for the heater by itself, not including labor. I knew that vehicle used the same Toyota engine sold in normal cars, so I ordered the identical part with the identical part number from a Toyota dealer for $40. Shop around for parts if you own a Lexus, they add a huge surcharge because they, can.
thank you for sharing
For Starter change, mostly al the top of the engine u opened. Hard work . Get good charge for this work
I ain't worked on one of these for a min but yeah I would give them a crazy price hoping they would say no .I had a guy trying to tell me his Lexus didn't have a starter. Crazy ass people man.
Damn, that's a lot to take off. Thanks for another badass video. Greetings from TX.
I work for a Nissan / Infiniti dealership, The door rate for Nissan is $129 and Infiniti is $139 Canadian. So yes a little more on the high-end car. even they are the mostly the same in Nissan and Infiniti
thank you for commenting
I shouldn't have watched the whole thing. I'm going to have nightmares. I may even have a panic attack before bedtime.
LOL that was funny
Oh man I miss my 97 ls400 great car it will last you a long run
just right to charge extra..wow you've got to remove everything just to get to that starter..hell of a job
I really appreciate the video really helped me out💯💯idk how u got off all the tubing so easy I split an intake line and the rest come off after awhile lol but great video really helped
So this is why Scotty Kilmer says don’t buy a Lexus with a v8 motor 😂🥵
Yes, I heard Scotty mention that same thing many times. He said about 8 hours labor to do this replacement.
Tundras too 😅
And some ford too
Lots of cars are repair nightmares. No lexus v8 for me. Scotty warned everyone
Did Scotty Kilmer also tell you that this is the most reliable, quiet V8 ever made? Believe it or not those oem stock starters last a very long time. I just replaced my original Denso on a 95 LS 400 at 210,000 miles. I'm not complaining because that $1,100 was well spent, with another new Denso, gaskets, hoses and such including labor. These cars are bulletproof literally.
I'd heard that this was a difficult job on the Toyota V8. Thank you Angel for showing us what to expect. Blessings to you and your family!
Amigo thanks for the video this is same like some old Cadillacs front wheel drive
I owned a same model build in 92 since 2013. I cannot make to run normal yet. Yes, you should charge luxury labor rate. Love all your videos. Thank you!
i will next time. thank you
What’s wrong with your car I guarantee it’s something simple I’ve had 4 ls400s
As long as you pay yourself enough to make it worth doing!
That is why I have Hondas and Acuras, So easy to replace almost everything.
Yup!! Got a 2000 civic and a 92 Integra for my daughter... easier to work on!! Only "modern" vehicle we have is the 2012 cx9 and even that i don't like working on.
@@soopainfiniteI agree with you.
One annoying thing I hate on civics is when the time comes to do a Cambelt change, you almost need to dismantle one side of the engine to reach the crank shaft pulley bolt. And what a stubborn bolt that one is. 😡🔨😖
@@ruinunes8251 oh man it’s not just the civics but the accord and any other Honda with a j series has this issue with the crank bolt. Also, Honda is lowkey known for over torquing the absolute crap out of their crank bolts from the factory.
@@suzumr2754 😂😂mate, I know it is not only the civics. But in my case I have 2 civics and I went through 3 cambelts in between the 2 civics with some phenomenal language involved. 😡😖🤬
@@ruinunes8251 you’re doing the whole job wrong if you don’t swear at least once during the process ;D
Changing the valve cover gaskets on my son’s 2000 Camry V6 also heads down this troubling road. Off with the plenum and everything else to install a $15 gasket. Will change all gaskets, plugs, wires, etc, while in there.
yes it's somewhat difficult just for a $15 gasket to change. be safe on your repair.
I thought you were rebuilding the engine for a second there
Making a starter situated between the banks covered by intake plenum is a PITA. But it’s better than a water pump ran by a timing chain. Everyone just buy a 4 cylinder non-turbo Toyota or Honda and everything is easier to fix.
Wow man, great job and camera angles. Don't know how you do it, but superb work. Best of luck this year Sir.
Thank you very much!
😮 !! One heck of a place for a starter. Goodness!
I use to hate these starter jobs but now I got it down to a science and can swap one out perry quick.
*This happened to be in my algorithms a day after taking 4 hrs taking off the bumper of a '04 GS300. Lexus decided to put 2 bolts 🔩 in a space meant for children hands. All just to replace the headlights*
Its what they called “Toyota Celsior” in Japan.
thank you for telling us. i appreciate it.
Damn just for a starter lol 😂 Take the whole engine apart. This is why it cost you an arm and a leg at repair shop.
Holy crap. Never seen a starter replacement job before take so much time
All the Toyota fanboys are quiet as hell right now
Well it wasn't that bad for a car meant to be serviced by people with money.
It certainly is not a great design. But the they generally don't fail. I had a 94 over 300,000 mi on it still on the original starter. Still think they should have mounted it on the bellhousing like every other car I'm guessing there wasn't room. Overall that V8 is absolutely fantastically reliable.
The starter was probably abused by the owner. Generally Toyota starters will last a long time (like everything else on Toyota) , it’s user error
@@monkmodemalik8225 yep,My 01 Toyota Tundra Gear Reduction Starter lasted 569,000 mls.
I'm willing to bet that car still on the road though 🤣
What a pain in the ass! Nice work, Angel. God Bless 🙏
Disconnected a lot of things to change a starter! I think it is easy to maintenance
It depends. If you need special tools, if the owners brag of how rich they are. Otherwise same rates as a toyota
If it takes longer you earn more anyway.... unless you are flat rate.... most people with old luxury cars are broke anyway....
Holy Moly a starter kuya. Might as well put a new head gasket in it and do a valve job too..
Yes Lito i could have done that. LOL
@@FixItAngel 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤👍🏼 Happy New Year and many blessings 🙏 to you and all your familia.
Any debris could have fallen into the intake ports, kinda risky?
Toyotas are less complex than BMWs but still a pain in the rear! Like siennas replacing those spark plugs underneath the plenum! Tundras they have their starter super duper hidden! Great job Angel!
The owner of the vehicle definitely needs to see the video and the work involved, because I'd bet they have no clue what it took for you to do this job, and you do excellent work. I would definitely charge close to what Lexus charges. Happy New Year, have a safe and healthy 2021🎉
Thanks bro. Buying one of these of one of the older homies, and he said he got quoted $1200 to do this....... No way lol twice what I'm paying for the car haha.
This deserves an "OMG!!!"
You mean a “WTF?”, don’t you?
Definitely get paid your worth Angel. You do great work and that looked like a luxurious pain.
Oh my goodness!! All that work for a starter!!? Damn.
Felicitaciones por grande conocimiento
@6.53 i think it a air intake temp. sensor
Toyota/Daihatsu in that era like to mount AIT sensor with intake manifold
Edit: Next day I had the same starter fail again and as I wrote below that I suspected a bad battery contact, I measured the voltage across the battery poles, connected a digital voltage display in the cigarette lighter socket and turned the key. Battery voltage did not flinch, but the lighter socket voltage dipped so much that the display went blank. So I knew to check the battery connections and it was the plus side that was loose. I tightened it adding a spring washer under the wing nut for good measure so it won't happen again. Problem solved.
This is definitely a case for a Tesla or some other electric car, although I am not a fan of e-cars and have an LS400 that just today had a starter failure for the first time in 30 years which is the reason I viewed this video. I did know the location of the starter so the job was not a surprise to me, but it did make me consider postponing the DIY as the failure was only temporary and I am yet not entirely sure if it was the starter that failed as it refused to turn 3 times and after I left the car standing for an hour it worked again like always before. It occurred to me it could be a bad contact from battery minus to engine body. Which would produce the same fault or symptom.
I will have to inspect this further to find out if my theory is correct. If the fault appears again and I can fix it using a jumper cable from battery minus to chassis then it will be an easy fix. If on the other hand it is caused by a bad contact in the starter I will have to dismantle everything anyway and in that case I will overhaul the whole upper part of the engine and change the timing belt as well.
Angel you should charge according for difficulty, time spend to replace new working product. Cause I've taken off some starters and alternators yet they were 5 to 10 minute job. Now what you just have in front of you, it's not only disassembly but remembering where everything goes back. So you should charge according to a scale from 1 being easy to a 10 taking you extra work and knowledge.
I got lost when you started disconnecting the throttle cables. Good grief had to take the whole booger apart to change starter.
I charge what ever the job is worth.. As having someone start working on your vehicle now. Has a value of it's own....Not having to wait a week till someone looks at it...
Wow remind me never to do a starter on a Lexus. Great job angel that’s a lot of work keep on wrenching God bless..
Yes, you should charge the luxury rate. Crazy location for starter and labor intensive.
You’re well worth whatever you charge 🤝
Some engineers had to sign off that design?
Happy New Year.
Wow you made it look so easy but I know it is not. Great video. I know I am not going to buy any Lexus V8s.
Awesome awesome video brotha. You allowed me the confidence to tackle this job on my own.
Here's a great idea. Maybe on these cars they could build them with a hole in front where you could insert a crank handle:)
lol good one. i like it Chris. Have a nice week.
Of course you should charge extra. Not as much as the Stealership, but close to average. You do excellent work. I would pay extra for you to work on my car.
Absolutely charge more just think how much they would've spent at Lexus dealership or shop to do it. Plus ur work is top notch
lot of work! good job!
Could the sensor in the back of the intake be air temp sensor?? just a guess from what it looked like
i think you are right
Such a clever design for a wearable/replaceable part. What was Toyota thinking?
Yes you should
Man that was alot of labor. Your the best bro!!
Do you put new copper washers on the banjo fuel connectors?. And would you take photos of any
plastic components with broken tabs or missing bolts before you start the job.
it's always recommend to always replace the used washers. but i just reuse it. works for me. yes that's a good idea to take pics before every repair
Happy New Year to You and Family