Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK | What's Its Sound?
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Congratulations. You have now found out for yourself what makes an analog console so cool for mixing. Use that saturation to your advantage. Push every channel into it. EQ into it. This is the glue that everyone's looking for with vintage modeled plug-ins.
Exactly!
👀 you guys must be kidding, right ?
@@enapsempire4151 Wanna ad anything else? Is that it?
i heard the lowend improve as soon as you switch to the summing mix. Awesome full body texture that we all want in our mixes. I like the Soundcraft mTK 22. Good song too bro.
I noticed it right away when I got my SoundCraft. I found this video because I wondered if anyone else had noticed 😂
Good job.
Glad i could help
well done Sir. Cool to see/hear/understand...
Wow look at that saturation when you push the console (5:38). I had made up my mind about buying this console before this video, thanks for reinforcing my decision!
Im glad I could help
Those ghost pres are amazing. I used to have a ghost I miss it everyday!
Fantastic,
Great video
This is why hybrid mixing is so desirable. Great sounding board.
It makes mixing so fun
When you showed the sine wave and moved it up a db the extra spikes that showed in the eq was harmonics which is cool to see from a mixer like that. It is a British board but to have a analog sound like that and be usb compatible is very cool!!
it's a very nice board
I might be totally wrong but I think what’s happening is the odd harmonic partials are being boosted in the sine wave when you push the signal up higher, essentially turning it into a triangle wave judging by the shape of the curve created by the boosted frequencies. Not sure what’s causing that to happen though.
Also remember that -18db digital is the same as 0db analog. You're most likely coming in too hot in the desk try reducing the channels by whatever amount you need so the channels aren't leaving the daw above -18db. You will get a punchier cleaner sound but with the added depth and width the analog summing brings.
i didn't do any proper gain staging so i totally agree that its possible to get a cleaner sound if propelry gain staged going into the mixer
This mixer sounds live...cohesive and saturated...I like it...
Good video. Yes analog summing should color your tracks.Most people like that glue it gives. One difference between a mix console and say the dangerous music summing racks is that a mixer has lots of pots and fader components that can each introduce a bit of noise. In your mix I prefer the summed version as it has an analog sound to it but I would do some eq tweaks during mastering. Imo it’s a personal preference thing... both mixes sound great.
I also think gain staging becomes incredibly important when running through the mixer. I didn’t really gain stage for this example.
I would record and mix on the soundcraft . And have dangerous music do the summing with Apollo x8 .
I've got this mixer. Hsvny had a chance to use it properly yet. I'm likely to push individual channels hard to get character. Not sure about entire mixes. Look forward to experimenting.
Analog sounds more cohesive and musical to me, digital is clean which is good but music is all about the vibe 🙂 soundcraft wins 🔥
You printed your mix and used saturation from the mixer sounds really good for 1k
You should do a visual comparison of the sine waves like this between the Tascam Model 24 and the Soundcraft mtk!
Or even a “What’s it’s Sound?” Episode of the Tascam model 24 would be awesome too!
Great video. Really appreciate you going in depth to determine the sound craft sound. I too just got the signature 12 mtk and am just getting my head around it. I’m using Adobe audition. Anyone have experience using this mixer with Audition. Just to clarify the first track was mixed and eq’d in your DAW and track 2 was routed through individual tracks on the mixer and eq’d on the mixer?
the track was mixed in the box and only summed differently. One digitally and one through the console, back into the daw.
Soundcast Studios Thank you. Just one more question how can you have multiple effects on two or more different tracks. Say a plate reverb on a snare track, and some flanger on a guitar track and delay on a vocal? Cheers
@@theoutputlab1906 thats 3 effects. Plate reverb, flanger and delay. This board only supports 2 effects
Bass sounded more present in the summing mix. I'm still learning this stuff. I was recently taught that going over 0dB in the analog realm introduces distortion. You may not have got a clipping light but I'm guessing the extra harmonics was distortion. In the summing mix did the peak level go over 0dB? Be interesting to see a comparison and different levels.
I'm not entirely sure but I wouldn't doubt that it did. I didn't gain stage for this example to show how it would sound if you kinda just did it with not much thought.
I need a video exploring the saturation side of this mixer, I mean intentionally pushing it say on a bass synth or instrument for analogue distortion and color.
The mixer gives the gtrs more bottom or low mids. The mix itself sounds awesome.
The actual mix levels in the "no summing" vs the "summing" seems different; but is this the result of analogue processing or just level settings? For example, notice the boost in the palm-muted, hard panned left rhythm guitar at the "looking up that ladder" part 1:24 vs 1:48. And the drums (high hat, snare but not the kick) down the middle are subdued in the "summing" version. I think if the mix was adjusted to compensate for these things then we could really get an apples to apples comparison. Great video, thinking about getting this board.
Yeah, the video could have been better. It's older and I want to believe I've gotten better at making them
Can you teach? How do you connect your daw into obs?
I prefer the Soundcraft One.. Maybe some slighty out of phase artifacts that gives some hotness.
i like it a lot too
The summing has a little more glue and grit to it. You can tell it pushes the sounds a little tougher
Sweet saturation at work
At first summing sounded worse after non summed mix. But than I prefered summing. It have that old school analog vibe and low bump that in the end sounds more natural to me.
that's what I like about it. It's less bright and I like that.
The summed version sounds a little more compressed/fatter and the Center image sounds a little more prominent. I like it , Nice
Thank you
4:52 sounds like aliasing. the DAW channels effectively have infinite headroom, but if you're already at zero dBFS and then push the DAW over it, the converters still have to translate that into analog world. not sure entirely if that is what is causing it, but that's my working theory based on the scroll. as someone else said, you also have to account for the fact that the sum should return at -18 dB lower than the digital (maybe a little less once you factor in noise floor and saturation summed to the output), and you may be overcompensating for that on the analog input gain stage rather than the summed output, although I see you do have Group 1-2 pushed to max, which on this mixer is like +22 dB in analogue realm, I think.
You just tilted my mind from getting the SSL SiX, I think Im gona grab this instead it sounds more smoother, less Boxy.....I think this may be the best Idea for a Home Studio...mabye this, with the WA GComp and an SSL Fusion....or the new Neve 88m Interface with my GComp.....
Im probably going to get this with the Neve 88m, I aready have a G Comp and an ART TransY Stereo FET
Summed mix is warmer and nicer overall but the mid range would need to be teased out slightly in mastering.
I agree with that
I like the sound without the summing myself it sounds more clean and crispy specially on the drums definitely hear the separation much better sounds even broader to me , I’m listening to it Out of a mini Zepplin So I don’t know if that makes a difference or not I’m sure it does
The reasons you gave are the reasons I like the summing. I like how it brings everything together more.
@Troy Niles I agree.
Overall I found the summed version a bit too bassy. But I think the added harmonics can work well if you also track the individual channels through the console (making each one more present) and then adjust for balance in the end mix.
If I get this one, would I need a separate audio interface if I want to record just vocals to a DAW for example? Or can I also use it as my main interface?
You can also use it as your main interface.
On ur DAW setting,pls can u tell me how many inputs and outputs u engaged?..
24 inputs 22 outputs
Hi, thanks for sharing! There is definitely a difference in the audio. Here at my studio the guitars go to the front with the soudcraft as the sides where pushed up. I also notice the reduction of highs and increase in the lows. How does this console compare with the gas can model 24? They do kind the same thing? Or why did you change it for the soundtrack? Thanks!
i'm gonna ssume you meant Tascam.
i actually greatly prefer the Soundcraft Mixer for my specific situation. More flexibility. Both have their pros and cons and it's hard to pick a definitive winner.
@@SoundcastStudios thanks for the reply! Yes, I meant the Tascam, but autocorrect did it's magic. I tested the soundcraft some time ago and it was cool, the only issue I noticed is that there was a lot of noise in the master going back to the computer, specially when you pushed it when doing the analog summing. How does the Tascam compare soundwise and the reliability to the soundcraft? I had a Tascam interface and the drivers were aweful. Thanks!
@@eprotz Luckily i don't seem to have any noise issues with mine. I've been able to use the tascam and soundcraft on my pc with no problems, so no reliability issues with either. Soundwise i couldn't really say. I have difficulty telling high level preamps from more budget level preamps. To me it all sounds good in this day and age.
Hi, interesting post, but what about the control room potentiometer?
not sure what you're asking
can you possibly calibrate all faders using the sinewave? them try to calibrate the whole mixer -2db or more??
that's a good question, i have no idea
@@SoundcastStudios so you could try and calibrate all faders at the same level using a 1k tone and do the test again, please!
Hello, please, How can I print my master track through my MTK 22? I have finished my mix and want to run it through the MTK before mastering, or before final limiting. But I struggle how to do it properly. Any ideas please?
run every channel through the Soundcraft and record the stereo L/R Channel
Hi, great video thanks for the infos. can i ask is it possible to connect and listen to the soundcraft with 2 differnt types of speakers? i got some adamA7x and some Krks . can i plug them both in?( and switch between the speakers for refernce?) thx again. cheers
Theoretically you could route everything to both sub groups and then switch back and forth using the faders.
Otherwise it’s not really intended for that.
@@SoundcastStudios cool appreciate it, thx for the answer
They both sound great.. The board mix has better depth and width..
i do like the subtle saturation it adds
Hi! What would be best and worth the investment for a band multitrack recording purposes? This mixer or the Zoom Livetrak L-20? both are in the same price range. Thanks a lot!
Really depends on what you need.
Zoom wins on portability if that’s a necessity
I still own a L-20 and use it for gigs like live sound and on site recording. It’s super light in comparison to the Soundcraft.
Don't switch on the beat. A mid phrase cut is more telling. Dug the video all together. Very helpful.
plizz tell me how to use spectrum meter.. where to insert
i just inserted into the track while monitoring is on
@@SoundcastStudios thank you
the spectrum of the whole mix got wider as well...
Was this done using USB? I wonder if it's the same if you run stereo outs into a more high quality audio interface. I'm not sure I really like what it's doing to the sound - I think it could be interpreted as muddy and lacking transparency.
yup, this is done through usb. Definitely not very transparent but i think with better gain staging it could sound more transparent.
It for sure lost transparency. Bass and drums got boomier.
That’s kind of what I thought too
Totally this. The bounce back sounds muddy and has lost punch. I'm not sure if this is the best way to test something like this though as you are going from your DAW back into your DAW. As the signal comes back in the DAW will be crunching numbers and folding back freqs with anti-aliasing. As MIM said above, you really need to return the board back into a good quality convertor to really isolate what the board itself is adding.
Listen to the snare in the chorus, kinda disappears in the summed version. But I'm listening on crappy speakers.
Yeah the saturation really cut that transient
Hi, i'm having trouble getting my Soundcraft Signature 12MTK to work well with OBS on my MAC, OBS is seeing the mixer but its not producing any sound, my mics are not working, music is not being played, but it shows the mixer quite alright on OBS but simply not producing sound, any helps please, thanks
You might have to change the USB Return switch from PC to Analog
@@SoundcastStudios Where do I find the USB return switch
@@mrmikepreacher under the gain knob
@@SoundcastStudios Oh yeah, I did that already
If you are on Windows search for OBS ASIO on github there is a free ASIO plugin for OBS that allows you to have a 2 channel output to OBS. If you are on a Apple Macintosh Computer search for Existential Audio BlackHole this will allow you route audio to OBS.
High's are definitely reduced and it's noticable
yup, the low end is more pronounced cause of it
OMG !!!!!
I absolutely loooove the warmth of the analogic mixer !!!
Damn ! Wow
I just don’t like the panning on this track, it’s just too wide in my taste
LCR is the only way i mix. Gotta have those wide mixes.
MORE DEPTH WITH ANALOG TRACK SEPARATION!!
Just got one too....Are using Studio One ? Question.....Can you only set the usb playback to channel 21/22 ?
i am using studio one. You can set playback to be any channel you like. Through studio one you just have to set the mater output to be any 2 channels you want. For windows you do it through the sound panel.
@@SoundcastStudios Yep....Tried it through the sound panel and no luck....I can only hear playback on 21/22 ...even when I press USB return.
@@SoundcastStudios Atleast not with CZcams
Not sure how to help you. It’s what I did. Set new outputs as default and it worked for me
@@jacquesretro you might not have the Mtk model
I used to have this mixer. it sounded great but it had a very annoying high pitched whine around 14k from the usb interface. I actually checked three different models and then I had enough an swapped it for an all analog board with a 32/32 interface.
What board?
@@SoundcastStudios A&H GL2400, it’s just neutral, nothing special but I like knobs and faders.
@@toslinked ahhhh i see. I misread your comment. I thought the board was ALSO a 32/32 interface.
@@SoundcastStudios I would like that, would spare me a lot of cables.
Price please reply
i think i prefer the not summed version. it deffo sounds more homogenous through the mixer but you seem to be losing some of the transients and high end and the low mids are definitly a bit more pronounced when summed. only lidtening on headphaones
and for those reasons i prefer the summed version. I don't like bright mixes
@@SoundcastStudios maybe he was running too hot into the mixer?
@@SoundcastStudios ive got a 22 mtk arriving next week. cant wait. how hard were you driving the mixer? guitars etc sound way more 'gelled' forgive my use of the term. ha. they sound great. slightly darker tonally overall that is no problem. for my taset i would just add a touch of high shelf boost. its the transients im worried about. hence me wondering how hard you were hiting the channels? works great for this mix but more thinking about how i may use this piece of kit. thanks
@@paulwalsh6734 I was driving it harder than I probably would on a mix since I wanted the sound to come through on youtube. It can be subtle if you gain stage it correctly. Have fun!
Hello techie... This is Stephen from India... I had a problem when I press usb record on mixer there is no audio output to the speakers or laptop. Plz help me to find out the solution... Thank you
made sure the faders are routed to the master or the sub groups?
@@SoundcastStudios I made all the possible things...
@@stephenpendyala2991 not sure what to tell you then bud
For my ears the modern 64 bit floating point wins here. Actually if we divide the price of this board by the number of the channels that it has, it makes sense. They have to fit a preamp, a DA converter, a four band eq, the aux section and a longish fader into the price of about three pizzas. That's what we hear. This is why the top vanished, the middle got foggy, the drum transients died out, etc... some may say it's the "analog magic", I think it's more like the sound of the three pizzas.
Hahahah I love this comment
three well preserved 1994 british italian american pizzas though !
Yeahhhh, I was eyeing this board until I heard this, was more than skeptical of how the usb connection would handle all the simultaneous I/O in roundtrip. You nailed it, this was reamped through a pizzabox.
Im glad my video could help you out 👍😁
@@SoundcastStudios It did! That's not a diss on the sound of your work, I actually think you do a way better job of presenting the board than others on yt, and I watched pretty much all your videos on it. I used to run their K3 with external converters, and was intrigued by the concept of this being an all in one solution, but I don't think it's reasonable to ask for all that in such a tight pricepoint. You're making it work though which is what being an engineer is all about! 👍
Does the Soundcraft can record all post fader inputs ?
No, all pre fader
@@SoundcastStudios so you need to equalize in DAW after the record ? . I read that the tascam already record all fader and equalizer (AFL)from board to the DAW. Is this information correct ? If it's , I think Tascam have a great advantage over sound craft
The tascam model 12 only can record the eq
Not any other model to my knowledge
man, i think you are a little mislead.
That sine wave test showing harmonics, is digital clipping. The daw is sending a clipped signal into the mixer. You can push down the mixer faders as much as you want and it wont get unclipped. The mixer meters do not correspond to the levels of your DAW, it is internal metering and the mixer itself reduces the level before hitting the analog stage, so you can get headroom to work.
Another thing, you said the mixer is adding lowend because of the spectrum analyzer. This is mislead too. That is no such thing as "backward" harmonics. It cant add lower information to a signal. What you see is the self noise of the mixer, and that bump in the low end could be the weight of the spectrum analyzer that tilts the curve so you can have a better persperctive of how we perceive sound.
Although, yes, it can add harmoncis, but only if you drive the faders up or boosting the eq until analog clipping is shown at the mixer's meter, which is excelent for controlling transients and adding exciteness.
It might have something you can call "a sound", but not because of these tests (dont get me wrong, they are important to get to know your gear, but only the conclusions are in the wrong direction). "The sound" is because of the EQs design, that is what can impact more your mixes. The 12k fixed high shelf, 60hz fixed low shelf and the non-adjustble Q's value, gives it a character that you need to accept and evolve yourself around that limitation.
I have this mixer and i love it! The sapphyre eq is very well designed! The high frequencies sound excelent, and it is one of the major benefits of having a mixer, because dense high frequency information normally needs oversampling to work well in the digital land...
do you know how this would compare to an oldschool soundcraft spirit studio desk and/or the SSL big six?
Hi.. I want to connect my android phone to Mtk22 for recording, when I connect group 1 & 2, I am not getting output. Pls help
Make sure everything routes to the master
Thanks for your reply, yes... output is routed to master. But when connecting through USB. I tried clicking USB return, buy still no go.
@@raghulsathyanyou don't need usb return since it's not coming from usb. You'll have to contact support. Without knowing all the details of your setup, i can't really help.
The summed track has more low end and saturation
I hear more professional-sounding gloss on the summed version.
Thanks!
Do you do any of your tracking using the converters in this mixer? If not: which converters did you use for most of the sessions shown on your CZcams channel? Thanks 👍
@@spiritspun4836 this mixer is new so all the sessions were with a scarlett 18i20.
I'm listening to this through professional studio monitors (Sony). The Summed version adds a low midrange frequency while the non summed version doesn't. Now, its a matter of taste as to which sounds better. I prefer the non summed version because it doesn't crowd the total frequency range of the song with a lot frequencies. Remember, keep it stupid simple (or keep it simple stupid if you want to insult someone). This is the formula that sells more records than any formula ever. The Beatles recorded the entire White Album on a 8 track recorder and most of their music prior to the White Album was recorded on 4 track machines.
Very much is personal preference
I prefer the cleaner sound of the NO SUMMING. Yes the summed version sounds beefier but also more veiled and less detailed. I wasted wayyy too many years and too much money pursuing "analog warmth" and realized I don't want that sound anymore. I think my ears have adjusted to cleaner mixes over the past 10 years. :-/
I don't like super clean mixes, that's just me though
@@SoundcastStudios No summing Wins, Interested in seeing how Ozone processes the Mastering of both if you use it
just found your channel today.
Agree
@@dvclassic4718 i would think the summing version would be louder since it has lower peaks. Just a thought
@@SoundcastStudios
The summing mix sounds more like a record... We already have enough "gloss n shine" mixes out there to last us to hell and back. Hell, I still mix my stuff down to a cassette tape to kill some of those ear piercing highs!
How many aux channels this mixer have?
5 aux channels
@@SoundcastStudios thank you
Counter it
Did you sum to the master and out to the DAW? Or did you sum to a channel and increase the gain?
Reason I ask as I can see lots of users experiencing a lower signal when going out of the master on the Soundcraft Signature MTK.
i summed to the master and then out to the DAW
@@SoundcastStudios thanks for the quick reply! Are you still using the SS MTK as your main board or have you found something else that better fits your needs?
I'm down to getting this one (hoping to get it to work with a Macbook Air M1) or a Tascam Model 12. I keep coming back to this though.
@@FionnPatrick I am no longer using the board since I wanted to incorporate more hardware into my workflow and the board limited me in doing that.
I use an 18i20 as my main interface now
@@SoundcastStudios interestingly, I've been looking at that too since it's USB-C (what Macbook Air M1 uses). Are you using it with a desk or are you mixing ITB now? I've been out the game for about 10 years, just looking for the best way to utilise analogue and DAWs so I'm using my ears more than my eyes. Your responses are much appreciated. I really dig the track you're using in this video.
@@FionnPatrick I mix mostly in the box with some channels going out and getting processed with hardware.
The problem with this lies in the DAC quality! Not the AD conversion in the end. In both files you hear the limitation of the DAC but the summed channel mix ads soundstage and depth to the recording. The mixer restores the depth, stage or spaceciality in the mix, it sounds better. But stil there is a flatness in the individual channels, it lacks stage, spaciality because of the quality of the DAC. It will never sound better then this DAC !!! Thats the problem. I stay in the box for this reason. I have a very good NOS DAC by the way from Metrum acoustics, that one has a natural sound with depth and stage, i know the cheap DAC's sound terrible, like those in my Tascam.
very interesting observation
There is a flaw in your test. You need to do the test without any plugins or if you want the plugins bounce that audio to a track first. If you have real time processing you can’t compare one ‘play’ to a second ‘play’. Because any plug-in that models hardware would be designed to have slight differences like hardware does. The best way is to do a null test on a recorded track without plugins or any real time processing.
the audio is bounced, I'm not sure what you're referring to. It's not in real time. The audio was bounced two different ways.
@@SoundcastStudios for example let’s say you have a guitar track with a compression plugin. Make sure you print the guitar and compression. Once you have the printed guitar + compression you can use that as a comparison source. Then use a null test to compare the two scenarios. A null test will definitively show the difference.
@@mjsthx1138 the tracks are printed that's why I don't understand what you're arguing
@@SoundcastStudios You have plugins on the tracks. Did you print each track so that the plugin was no longer required? In other words, if you deleted or removed the plugin would you still have the exact same sound? That would allow the 'no summing' source to be exactly the same as the source of 'summing'. That's all I am asking. If that is the case, then you could use a null test to compare the 'summing' version to the 'no summing' version. that would show the differences even the differences that are too small to hear. All I am saying is that it would be interesting. Good video though. 👍
Also, I am curious how you did the summing. I assume you used USB? It might be interesting to go out a standard interface and then in on the Soundcraft to see how much the analog preamps color the tone.
Does this have audio out at post fader into the daw?
If I remember correctly it’s pre fader
@@SoundcastStudios thanks for your reply. That’s a deal breaker for me. Do you know of any mixers that are post fader?
Tascam model 12 I believe
@@SoundcastStudios I have one…it’s definitely pre fader too unfortunately.
Double check that. I remember the model 12 being different since it’s an actual DAW controller.
I think it had a setting for post fader
Harmonic Overtones are ace. Hence I'd rather record on an analog console.
I will get a console one day. I want that workflow
The sum is warmer, less clear, rounds out the high end, looses clarity....
Sold I was gona get an SSL 6 but fk it....Ill save a $1000 and get a soundcraft...sounds warmer than than the 6
SSL stuff in general is pretty clean
I just have to say you do not tell about how you do the Summing.. becourse there IS an true difference in Sound if you feed it with 22 ch. at 48khz or feet it with upward 96khz Audio out of an great DA Converter. I realy have to say it makes a difference withing the Highend of the Audio. There are some guys always saying thats not problem.. but here it is - if youre running your Audio out to the Analog Domain you only and always only get what your converter gives out. From that truth - we have to say every Circuit even the High END Pricings do "kill" the Highend in one or otherway. Its about Physik and the cancelation withing a natural enviroment. And so we have to say clearly: If we do Summing with a low resolution - it will kill more Highend than a higher Resolution. Its just like watching HD720 vs 4K - and we all know it makes a difference but its still the same yeah.. you know the developers of great consoles spent A LOT of money within the design of the circuit. To get that console have a "positive" Mixing condition. Does not mean it will sound transparent or clean - but it need to translate later in the endresult in a nice way. Most Consoles i heard and that was just the cheap ones did kill a lot of highend within the Signal - but the thing was: It does Sound like shit when recording it back in when using low resolution. Resolution does make a HUGE Difference. And the creators know it. And they know about the Magic 96khz and above. But their Marketing goes very well bringin everyone Thinking that you need SSL Big 6 or shit like that - what only runs 48khz.. just realize PRO CONVERTERS like Focusrite Rednet or Apollo x16 are not expensive becourse of the DSP - no.. its becourse of the Converters. They got the only converters on the market powerfull enogh to be able to run at full Spectrum 8 Ch. Stereo @ 192khz and all other Converters - and there are so many.. just lie. When goint to the Magic 192khz they just reduce the Outputs to 2 ch.. sometimes 4.. and then you realize your 18i 20 was just a lie.. its useless when doing the real Bussiness thinking about runnig it out into analog Konsole. Its easy to get hands on a Soundcraft or Allen Heath ZED 428 they look damn pretty impressive but WAIT.. to feed it you need at least 16 Mono or 8 Stereo outs meaning just around 5000€ investment only for your converter. And the thing is - MANY out there just do bad resolution Mixes with a lot Loss of information in the Highend. They all go and need Saturation Vitalizing and Pushing of the High Air Bands to get close again to the DAW Mix. And the sidekick of that Mojo out of the gear or plugin is - a exitement of Highend. It will get louder and we know louder is always better^^ but thats the Point we do go for it in that moment. Its not realy so complex doing Analog Summing. Doing it without losing the highend or Lowend Resolution - on the Record is a realy different thing to do. There are Consoles that so use Saturation and Harmonic Distortion for making the Midrange more crunchy. Neve is very famous doing that. Its a coloring of Sound. Some Consoles or Stripes do color in a Low End smotheing some in a highend Tightening and opening. But they realy coloring the Sound in "there is something changeing by losing something here and add more there" its often more a weightening process. But it is correct - Digital Mixing is often very Highend that means very cold or clear. Cristalized. And many Artists out there are believing that it is the same using a Live Console like having perhaps some SSL Console or Neve running. But it isnt. Yes you can mix and mix good with it. But the cheaper consoles run cheap electric builds that most of the time kill the High end. So it is needed to EQ and Compress the Signal to get it back up again. And that Process gives that "modern" vibe. But in the end - if you would use a Great modern Console, you would have WAY better result even with low resolution. And so you realy have to face the truth - if you want to have real greatness in your Signal Path you should not use cheap analog Consoles that try to fuck your mind by selling you the lie - that they do sound even close to the Big ones. They dont! BUT you can go pretty far by connecting a Zed 428 to a cascade of DANTE OuT IN. With hi res i o. But that means you have to spent close to 10000€ for converters and Dante Network. But then - you will have pretty damn power of I O. That is by far the only thing that make it go great. Or doing a Daisychain of 3 or 4 Apollo X16 on that console. Running it with DSP and UAD Plugins that allow you to run the Digital EQing pre Analog out first that a "expensive" Hardware would do. But in the End - i mean realy in the End of the Day.. you have to accept the truth that the only thing that is worth doing on the Analog Domain is to route it high as possible out in to 8 Stereo Goup Ch. That all are using own Stereo 500 Modules. With highclass EQing and Amps and so on. That Ch. will cost you at least 5000€ per Chan.. what makes 40.000€ And if you cant do it - invest in one single HIGH END CHAIN and do the Recording thru it and record it high possible. It will Sound 1000x better than everything you can do with that Soundcraft. But you could also pay 40000 to the new SSL Console directly ^^ so you got it bro. To get the thing done like a pro - you need to pay pro price. And once you realize the difference and WHY they cost as much they do - you will cry spending so much time and Money into stuff that wasnt worth it. Just think about - Soundcraft can do everyone.. Neve or SSL - only a few. And that makes the Money.
Lost some high
that's the saturation at work
Sorry but something smears the sound. Either poor conversion or/and poor analog console technical characteristics,
Even on my iPad I could immediately spot the difference.
To be honest, for me the mixer version sounds like shit.
Thanks for uploading this video as I‘m considering to buy this mixer for a few weeks now.
It’s interesting to see some people like it and some people hate it. It really makes you realize how subjective mixing is.