Dead Grass vs Dethatched Area (exposed soil test)
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Nice job providing accurate, well thought out content. There are too many CZcamsrs who spread wrong information.
This summer was brutal for us in the transition zone. I've got a couple patches that are dead, but overall grass looking better than previous years as my established grass is strong and I was really on top of my fungicide.
I will definitely be dethatching not just the areas of dead grass, but the entire lawn as there is definitely dead strains of fescue in the greener sections. Also going to be aerating.
Very timely for me. I am in process of killing some spots (bermuda / POA etc..) with plans on re-seeding in Mid Sept. (In DE) and I have been wondering exactly this! Was / may still be planning to rack like this in a couple days, just before my next Fungus app.
I tend to dethatch my tttf once a year even though most people say not too bc the summer beats it up and over the years I’ve realized it helps with disease too. Before I dethatched I constantly struggled with Pythium where the dead grass under the good grass would be super slimy and caked together and would start wiping out large areas of my lawn. Dethatching really has made a huge difference when it comes to pythium for me (also apply mefenoxam
After dethatching). Biggest word of advice is to use a good amount of liquid kelp and humic acid after dethatching to help it repair from all the stress.
Mr. Ferguson, you're right, I have tall fescue and I did a lot of dethatching in my entire yard. Some of the grass has came back but there was a whole lot of thatch that I got picked up.
Hang in there! It looks like your neighbor across the street is looking good!
LI NY Johnathan Green BBU here .I was contemplating giving up this turf becuase every year it`s the same die out. My buddy has generic scotts seed and his lawn has no issue somewhat. I spend BUOOKO bucks all all Anderson products to help out. But the struggle is real and i am glad i am not the only Burn Out on the block..lol God Bless...
Grass has to hit the dirt! I have a tow behind cheap dethatcher that does the job for me. I don't have the horsepower myself anymore so I improvise. Will start all of mine at the end of the month when I hit 67. Dethatch-aerate-seed-and light dressing of leafgro. Will try some granular hydretain to assist with keep the seed wet also. Been a nasty year for everyone [ I'm just south of Baltimore] with another tropical storm setting it's sights maybe on us again. Moreso than anything just pray for those in the path. The yard can always wait!!!
Good experiment! Excited to see the results
Nice segment, helpful as I am prepping for to over seed. Try spraying Tenacity now and at time of over seeding to help prevent weeds. I am going to try to address my Bentgrass issues. Will be blanket spraying 2 apps of Tenacity prior to the over seed process. Thx for sharing. Oh joys of overseeding lol
I'm battling the Bermuda that is now thriving with pylex, and will dethatch closer to reseeding date next month! Cant wait 😊
was it worth it? I'm trying to get a neighbor to go in with me to split the cost. I'm not sure how far one bottle goes.
I used Green County 0-0-25 right before we got 3-4 inches of rain. Amazing bounce back. Cutting twice a week instead of once every two weeks.
Half of my backyard looks like your ditch area. I plan on Sunjoe dethatching the area about a week before seeding. I'm not worried about weeds. I learned enough about killing weeds in 7-8 years cross that bridge next year.
Plus I'll spray some tenacity and ethos 4sc. Did this twice last year. Had very little poa. Mainly along street where it gets hot.
I have that dethatch rake. It is awesome. It’s worth every penny. Yes, almost POA time. I have to really work on a plan and get a handle on that darn POA!
You got a new subscriber in me Mr. Ferg! Im located in Fort Bragg, Nc trying to maintain a fescue lawn as a first time home owner/lawn nut. Im contemplating on switching to KBG
Welcome! Although my memories of Bragg aren't the best haha.
Have an amazing day sir 👍
@@davidcrowson4745 you too!
Hey Mr. Ferguson! Isn’t this where you planted all of the Jonathan Green Solar Green seed? I think that was like three years ago at this point though. I was thinking about going with Solar Green or Dense Shade for my yard this year and seeing this massive dead spot on the bank scares me! I also have a very large slope, much bigger than yours, and a ton more shade. What caused the massive dead spot this time? Thanks for your help!
Looks like you exposed quite a bit of soil, and I hope it works for you. My experience? Unless you scalp it down very low, the remaining dead grass will tend to lay over and mat on top of your seed when it gets wet, preventing complete germination. Others will say that the remaining dead grass provides a nice cover (sort of like straw/hay) to keep the moisture in.
I would use this time to use some Ornamec on that Bermuda coming back since you aren't re-seeding yet. I typically do not prep the ground (remove dead grass) until I'm read to seed. In my experience, it invites weeds that delay me from seeding. That being said, I believe the comments you were referring to about "thatch" were likely around people not referring to thatch as "recently deceased grass". Thatch is typically referred to a layer of organic material (some of which is dead grass) that is on top of the soil. With that, I don't believe the person you were discussing with was saying not to remove the recently deceased grass.
I would definitely leave the dead grass there until right at time of seeding. Other factors come into play now that the soil is exposed. Birds can bring in weed seeds, and that matted down dead grass was definitely acting as a preventative barrier for anything that was already in the ground.
Good thing about living in northern Canada, I don't get this poa stuff. Bad thing is I live in Canada 😢.😅
I don't want any POA in my TTF. You might be on to something about exposing POA seeds. To start off because of my suspicion too, I'm using liquid dethatch every 3 weeks when temps are 85+ and above to digest any excess, prior to the overseeding process and any raking dethatch/ aeration. I'll contuine to use Ethofumesate to help control it. I'll watch your experiment.
I live in Wake Forest.. I'm planning on overseeding the 2nd weekend of September. My plan is to dethatch with my Sunjoe next weekend and hit it with some Tenacity to (hopefully) prevent anything from popping up
Nice! You are super close to me! Best of luck
You may get some weeds, but it’s nothing that an herbicide can’t get rid of. Plus, I actually think the good grass that is in the patch you raked will now come back stronger. It was being suffocated by the dead grass. Now it will receive more oxygen, sunlight, and nutrients.
I'm with you. I was thinking if I removed the dead grass will the weeds come up? I wanted to use my elec de thatcher last week because we was so cool down to low 70s in KS. We was told we was going to get a bunch of rain and didn't get any at my location. I'm looking forward to see what happens to that spot. It may take a week or two to really know but could I have done it and not had weeds and such come up till seeding time??? Thanks brother for helping us.
How much of that “dead grass” if any do you think would come back in the fall with water and fertilizer? Grass has the natural defense against heat of going dormant. It’s always hard to know what’s dormant and what’s dead
@@lukebard7589 no idea lol, but what raked out is definitely dead, but who knows? Interested to see.
Looks better after a little raking. I agree, a few crabbys will pop up.
Mr. Ferguson, Hey, just found your channel and subscribed.
I live around 70 miles south of you in Rockingham. Haven't been able to see all your videos yet, looking forward to that
I have 2 questions,
1. What grass should I have in my yard at our location.
2. My yard is bad, I want to just start over, what steps should I do to get my yard looking like yours.
Thnkx for your time and help
Take Care
FYI, I'm in the Sandhills and the soil is basically sand. I would love to have Fesque but I dont know if that grows in sand like we have here.
I'm very excited to hopefully have a plush yard, I dont need a yard of the month or anything like that but I'm very tired of having a crappy yard.
From yards away it does not look too bad but that is because I have mostly weeds and crab grass.
Do people still burn their yards to start over, if you tell me to, I will??
Take Care
What type of grass do you currently have! And was grass type is dominant in your area? I’m in NC also but fescue gets fried where I’m at!
I have JG solar. I planted it 3 years ago. I live in South Carolina on the coast. My grass is awesome. Lots of people stop and ask me questions about my lawn. That is what I would plant.
@@bobbyhunt3009 Contact your local University extension in your state / county and ask them how you should go about performing a soil test first. The university will provide you results based on a Melich-3 testing calibrated and correlated soil metrics. You will want to look at the pH result of your soil and the ppm values of nutrients like Potassium and Phosphorous. The university will make recommendations on your report reflecting what you might need to apply moving forward based on nutrient sustainability. Stay away from non-university related soil labs. MySoil is one of them. They will make recommendations based on a debunked "Base Cation Saturation" value which will end up costing you hundreds of dollars on wasteful fertilizers and non-validated bio-stimulants that you might not even need- if ever. University turf science departments are the most reliable labs for soil testing. They will only recommend what the soil needs to sustain itself.
@@AntoineClaquin-cf2hd
This guy ain't for real huh.
I asked him this question over a week ago. No wonder he had no subs, thanks for trying to help but I'll go with some good boys locally who give me the respect we all deserve
idk what that commenter was thinking. All cool season grasses should be dethatched. As for him saying not TTTF, @LawnAmateur does it every time before he overseeds. I have TTTF in my backyard & perennial rye in my front, gonna be dethatching my backyard, & scarifying the front. Scarifying the front bc there are more bare areas that il be seeding & overseeding.
As for your question, I would think the more likely you open up your soil & wait, more chance weeds will pop up.
@@farquadshmoogle9120 There is a lot of good and bad info out there, and it’s hard sometimes to know what is true. Like I said, based on experience, I feel it’s necessary. Thanks man!
Your going to get weeds there. I did the same thing and a week later weeds showed up.
@@alfred1112 I think so as well
@@MrFergusonLawn If your temps get below 90 degrees for a couple days, you could apply mesotrione (Tenacity) in that area to keep the weeds in-check.
throw some seed in that area and it should grow good, grass doesn't grow on top of dead grass
Only way I wouldn’t dethatch those areas is if I was going to slit seed into it. The dead material might be beneficial then.
When do you plan on seeding?
@@fargnbastage maybe last week of Sept or first week. Depends on rain! Another good video idea lol. Thanks!
@@MrFergusonLawn I always get paranoid that maybe waiting so close to October is a bad idea because how the weather here in TN can be fickle, but it jsut feels better to wait until then, or first week of October, due to avoiding any spikes in heat.
This is the first year I won't be overseeding my entire yard, and just spot seeding the areas that died off....so also my first year using Tenacity in an attempt to stave off weeds in those areas.
Looking forward to the video if you make it and thanks for the response.
I wasn't able to put down pre emergent this year as I wanted to re- seed in the spring ( which I did ..what a waste!) I had to battle weeds all summer! So with all the heat I lost the spring seed. I am planning on seeding this fall with GCI spreading fescue . I have just re treated my yard with speedzone and quinclorac to kill off all the thriving weeds. I hope that I can start my renovations around the end of September..do you think the chemicals that I just put down will have a lasting effect on new weeds coming up or should I put down some tenacity in a few weeks?
You're NOT supposed to dethatch TTTF. It's a plant, when you dethatch TTTF you're stressing it out far beyond what's necessary. There are tons of articles about it. Ask anyone with a degree in horticulture or who aerates lawns. The people who are actual professionals will tell you the truth.
Of course if you have dead areas you're supposed to rake it out first.
F/Y/I Pigs don't sweat!!
I should have said sweat like a sinner in church haha
I understand wanting to dethatch the lawn, but I've been learning that since tttf is a bunch style of grass it doesn't need to be dethatched. That being said, power raking is helpful to get rid of that dead grass underneath to allow more air to pass through the turf.