Is Pikachu ACTUALLY the best Kanto Starter? - Solo Pokemon Red/Blue Challenge

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  • Ranked 6th in my Top 10 Worst Pokemon for this challenge is is possible that Pikachu actually may be one of the best? Was Ash right all along?
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  • @hwoarangthedoorbell
    @hwoarangthedoorbell Před 4 lety +4731

    Don’t listen to people who tell you that speeding up the game is cheating. There’s absolutely no advantage that you gain over NPCs or other players by speeding up the pace. Don’t let legalists bully you into wasting your own time. Keep up the hard work, jrose. I’m loving these videos.

    • @justinnesbit3948
      @justinnesbit3948 Před 4 lety +59

      hwoarangthedoorbell Idk, is argue that the game is balanced around the fact that you wouldn’t spend an hour leveling up. Say in a normal area leveling you’d spend 20 mins. With triple the battle speed, you’d probably still spend the 20 mins, but now you’re way higher level. I’m not calling it cheating, just saying it does make the game easier if you abuse it

    • @aidendavid2680
      @aidendavid2680 Před 4 lety +392

      A video every other day is way better than every week

    • @sambridhathapa4313
      @sambridhathapa4313 Před 4 lety +318

      @@justinnesbit3948 I cant speak for speedruns. But I have seen some people literally leveling up a magicarp for half a day in the normal gamespeed. They beat the game with the sole magicarp. So speeding up the game cant have much of an advantage rather than saving up this guy's time. I am for speeding up the game because in this particular series he will save a massive amount of time trying out different pokemons as starters.

    • @danielparker6406
      @danielparker6406 Před 4 lety +211

      @YamiJustin don’t forget that’s he’s trying to stay at as low a level as possible. So he won’t be spending the same amount of time leveling faster, he’s be spending less time getting to the level he would have gotten to anyways at normal speed.

    • @ckillgore
      @ckillgore Před 4 lety +184

      Is it cheating if I watch these videos at 1.5x speed to save myself some time binging this series?

  • @IvyLeather13
    @IvyLeather13 Před 4 lety +2226

    Speed ups are fine. Most don't even care about using a legit cartridge, don't sweat it dude.

    • @AwesomeMooseSmile
      @AwesomeMooseSmile Před 4 lety +107

      There's probably like one person who sees that isn't a legit cartridge and goes "FGSKRHTNDKRRNFQWNRN!?!?", but chances are they don't even watch this channel anyways.

    • @thatguy4996
      @thatguy4996 Před 4 lety +97

      boom don’t you mean FGSKRHTNDKRRNFOWNRNI

    • @yawninglion1677
      @yawninglion1677 Před 4 lety +85

      @boom Here's the thing my guy; I own all the games I play on emulator. I've played those cartridges hundreds of times. So why do I still use emulators? Randomizers; the games don't have enough replayability as-is because I'm always stuck with the same Pokemon. So I use emulators to make the game more fun for me, but I legitimately own the game, so I'm not robbing Game Freak of any money- they already got my money years ago for the exact same games.
      Forcing people to only ever use the actual cartridge, even if they own the games they're using ROMS for, is ridiculous. I'm trying to experience the game in new and fun ways that aren't possible on an actual cartridge. If you and your elitist standards want to complain about how horrible of a person I am, cool cool, but I see no issue with it and you picking fights with everyone in the comments is extremely annoying.

    • @andersfjeldvr9099
      @andersfjeldvr9099 Před 4 lety +22

      @@yawninglion1677 I don't mind that people use emulators, but IF you want to play on genuine (ish) hardware with randomizer, you could get a flash cart and put those randomized roms on there. I've done it quite a bit for solo runs to get the right starter, playing on an actual Gameboy Advance SP, and I have to say it's alot of fun.
      Again, nothing wrong with emulators, just a tip in case you didn't know.

    • @yawninglion1677
      @yawninglion1677 Před 4 lety +11

      @@andersfjeldvr9099 Neat, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I'm very bad with tech, but it sounds pretty cool :)

  • @jasonsmith7530
    @jasonsmith7530 Před 4 lety +357

    “The best part about finding out that you’re wrong is you don’t have to be wrong anymore.“

    • @FAFO.K7NG
      @FAFO.K7NG Před 4 lety +15

      Honestly this is a really good quote. Throw it on a shirt

    • @lukereilly9844
      @lukereilly9844 Před 3 lety +10

      That's genuinely a good piece of wisdom

    • @isaacleillhikar4566
      @isaacleillhikar4566 Před 3 lety +6

      @@lukereilly9844 Proff Oak needs to surrender his place.

    • @kevmasengale6903
      @kevmasengale6903 Před 3 lety +8

      Words to live by.

    • @marystone1526
      @marystone1526 Před 3 lety +6

      @@FAFO.K7NG I genuinely want merch with that phrase now.

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread Před 4 lety +1022

    Speed up as much as you want! Although I personally don't use it anymore, I honestly wouldn't mind bringing it back. I always thought that the argument that it's cheating to use it is silly. I could see an argument saying that it takes away from the experience to some level, but it doesn't change the experience for the viewers and the video is for them, not the player

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 Před 4 lety +63

      I like seeing all the other poketubers commenting on each other's videos, giving each other advice and such. Makes it feel more like a community. Love your stuff MDB

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 Před 4 lety +40

      Which Fossil did you take?

    • @DragoniteTrainer
      @DragoniteTrainer Před 4 lety +5

      I don't use it for original versions because I want to "feel" them, but I use it on every hack I play, and some are too much long even with speedplay.

    • @AwesomeHairo
      @AwesomeHairo Před 4 lety +8

      The problem is the constant bumping into walls and wasting time

    • @drusian2207
      @drusian2207 Před 4 lety +5

      Ahhh it’s Mah Dry bread yaassss

  • @cereal7591
    @cereal7591 Před 4 lety +985

    Wait, people tell you, the madman who literally made 2 solo Magikarp runs with NO SPEEDUPS, that using it in a 53 part series is cheating? Wtf

    • @ultralightjay7793
      @ultralightjay7793 Před 4 lety +110

      I know right lol. The other runs i guess i can kinda understand the complaints, but expecting Jrose to complete 53 individual runs of Red/Blue at base speed? Please.

    • @galeforce3192
      @galeforce3192 Před 4 lety +40

      People are only saying that because it's an emulator. I guarantee you if he did that with the GB Tower in Stadium, they would be perfectly fine with it.

    • @JD-xz1mx
      @JD-xz1mx Před 4 lety +10

      I don't have any issue with him speeding the game up, but this logic is upside down. The fact that he cultivated his audience with content that has no speedups means that it is highly likely for people to have an issue with using speedups.

    • @diablo.the.cheater
      @diablo.the.cheater Před 4 lety +35

      @Richard Davis No it is not cheating unless you are speedrunning, outside of speedrunning it is just moding but not cheating, as in you don't get advantages only quality of life.

    • @matthewferrantino9521
      @matthewferrantino9521 Před 3 lety +2

      I am not angry at all. I am sad that my hero is getting tired. He has every right to speed up the game. I just would point out it would be PARTICULARLY FUCKING AWESOME if he NEVER sped up.
      He can take a break. I'm just going to be sad he chose to stop being insane.
      Crazy Guy was a straight G.

  • @v1tr1us2
    @v1tr1us2 Před 4 lety +1056

    “We use agility to boost our attack...”
    Oh gen 1.

    • @Rune_Winchester
      @Rune_Winchester Před 4 lety +25

      That actually works because in Gen 1 your base chance to critically hit is based on how high your speed stat is.

    • @gaberboo7434
      @gaberboo7434 Před 4 lety +116

      @@Rune_Winchester base speed is used, not current speed for critical hit rate. Every state change reapplies all badge boosts

    • @LuMnOsITi
      @LuMnOsITi Před 4 lety +21

      @@gaberboo7434 Covered in detail in every single video, yet some people still don't understand 😂😂😂. If he didn't get it when jrose explained it, I don't think he's going to get it when you explain it either.

    • @alexpayne3287
      @alexpayne3287 Před 4 lety +10

      idontlikethegeesethatgohonkhonk Princess Lunna Critical hits ignores the stats gained from the badge boost glitch

    • @tiagocardosom
      @tiagocardosom Před 3 lety +7

      @@alexpayne3287 Critical hits ignore every stat changes. Your and your opponents buffs/debuffs

  • @randomderp8457
    @randomderp8457 Před 4 lety +291

    I love the image of Pikachu just seismic tossing a Rhydon around

    • @SoraDonaldGoofy99
      @SoraDonaldGoofy99 Před 4 lety +24

      Pikachu piledriving a Rhydon. LOL.

    • @oz_jones
      @oz_jones Před 2 lety +17

      @@SoraDonaldGoofy99 wrestlemania running wild, brother

    • @streetsurfer420
      @streetsurfer420 Před rokem +2

      I don't understand why he used TMs here but not in the Magikarp run.

    • @darkfiredragon3410
      @darkfiredragon3410 Před rokem +12

      @@streetsurfer420 Because a non-event Magikarp literally learns nothing outside of Splash and Tackle in gen 1; Jrose literally brings that up when describing the damn fish.

    • @H3XM4N1AC
      @H3XM4N1AC Před rokem

      pikachu seismic tosses mewtwo

  • @mortmortmort8908
    @mortmortmort8908 Před 4 lety +329

    My strategy for Yellow was always "get a butterfree and level it until it learns confusion" and that solves the Brock problem for me.

    • @Jonatron101
      @Jonatron101 Před 2 lety +49

      Rock problems require bug type solutions.

    • @cursedcat6467
      @cursedcat6467 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Jonatron101 yes exactly bug types have good grass coverage but obviously that’s not gen 1 because I used the word coverage

    • @brysonrobinson8389
      @brysonrobinson8389 Před 2 lety

      Oh man I never thought of that

    • @myeclecticself
      @myeclecticself Před 2 lety +9

      This comment is incredibly nostalgic.

    • @DanielHernandez-mi1tp
      @DanielHernandez-mi1tp Před 2 lety +35

      Capture a Mankey. West of Viridian City

  • @DaBannyGaming
    @DaBannyGaming Před 4 lety +593

    Jrose: Pikachu is the 6th hardest Pokémon
    Ash: Hold my Thunderbolt

    • @stephenthethiccboi9775
      @stephenthethiccboi9775 Před 4 lety +7

      Rock and Steel types: Are we a joke to you?

    • @jacobesterson
      @jacobesterson Před 4 lety +29

      *Ash then proceeds to take 22 years to finally achive what can be reasonably achieved in a single day.*

    • @yacinebenm1602
      @yacinebenm1602 Před 4 lety +10

      @@jacobesterson he won the orange league 20 years ago

    • @pokemaniac333
      @pokemaniac333 Před 4 lety +16

      @@stephenthethiccboi9775 Rock and Steel don't resist Electric. Electric actually resists Steel, and it's only resisted by itself, Dragon and Grass (and Ground is immune).

    • @fatso5573
      @fatso5573 Před 4 lety +5

      It’s more like “Hold my never missing Thunderbolts”

  • @TheSaiyanPrincess89
    @TheSaiyanPrincess89 Před 4 lety +838

    Speeding up the game isn't cheating. It literally just makes things go faster; it doesn't actually make the game itself any easier. You're fine. Don't let anyone bully you into wasting more time than necessary.

    • @petercarioscia9189
      @petercarioscia9189 Před 4 lety +8

      You go grind for hours at normal speed and tell me playing at 4x doesn't make the game easier.

    • @IvyLeather13
      @IvyLeather13 Před 4 lety +76

      @@petercarioscia9189 "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

    • @rossanderson4156
      @rossanderson4156 Před 4 lety +116

      @@petercarioscia9189 why would you waste your life grinding for 4 hours when you could do the same grind in an hour? The answer is because you don't value your own time

    • @benevolentworldexploder5395
      @benevolentworldexploder5395 Před 4 lety +35

      @@petercarioscia9189 You go play at 4x and tell me why you'd ever play the other way?

    • @rossanderson4156
      @rossanderson4156 Před 4 lety +55

      @MillennialHonkey 89 no I 'literally' didn't prove anything he said. Spending more time doing the same exact task =/= it is any easier or harder. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THR AGE YOU ARE AT THE END OF IT. If it were harder to play the game slower, then why has no one done a 0.1x playthrough of the game for a challenge? Now unlike your own comment and try and actually articulate yourself rather than just spouting nonsense.

  • @dubbz1356
    @dubbz1356 Před 4 lety +466

    Jrose: "I've fought Bruno 25 times and only lost once"
    Me: Uh oh, that means 23 losses to Agatha/Lance/Rival

    • @williamhuynh869
      @williamhuynh869 Před 4 lety +51

      He just needs one reality where he wins

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 Před 4 lety +18

      I think he does major battles multiple times to see that it's consistent. I don't know if he uses save states in between elite four members to formulate a strategy and do that proving faster, but that would also mean that losing to Lance doesn't mean he fought all the others again.

    • @MineCat10212
      @MineCat10212 Před 4 lety +43

      @@wombat4191 He has said in his other videos in the series that he does not save in between members of the elite four, so he has to beat all five battles in a row to complete it.

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 Před 4 lety +5

      @@MineCat10212 Ah yeah he indeed did.

    • @kazemizu
      @kazemizu Před 4 lety

      I always saw Bruno as an exp snack

  • @Campaign2024
    @Campaign2024 Před 4 lety +325

    I never. NEVER understood the complaints of speeding up gameplay in real time. The only thing you save doing that is time which can be spent making more videos and editing. And no sane person would denounce a run for using speed up when all of them demand so much grinding, too.

    • @SilastheMatchmaker
      @SilastheMatchmaker Před 4 lety +43

      Only time I could understand the complaint would be in legitimate speedruns. Never understood the complaint for challenge runs like this though that is based off the in-game time.

    • @Campaign2024
      @Campaign2024 Před 4 lety +31

      @boom Investing time to raise your Pokémon is not challenge. If difficulty was ever a concern in these games, the developers should have focused on better AI and more fleshed out movesets for later game trainers. A level 100 Pokémon is a level 100 Pokémon no matter how you get there, and if you need a higher level to be able to win, the bottom line is just that. Finding the level you need to be at to be able to win. Why not complain about something that actually does ruin difficulty like using in battle items or evasion like Double Team? The idea of denying being hit by your opponent is much more grimy than denying tedium of gaining experience unless it's a speedrun.

    • @SilastheMatchmaker
      @SilastheMatchmaker Před 4 lety +22

      @boom I mean, did you watch the video though? He didn't level to 100. Besides, the entite point of these 'Challenge Runs' isn't to toil away half your life grinding a Pokémon game. It's to just see if it's possible to beat the given game with only one Pokémon and some other rules. I don't think it's fair to ask a content creator like this to do the game without speedups, when it makes absolutely no difference besided the amount of time he spent grinding, which is already the most braindead part of the game.

    • @Campaign2024
      @Campaign2024 Před 4 lety +1

      @boom Okay that much I'll agree to. Still wouldn't say that being level 100 would be very entertaining despite being optimal, but I see your point.

    • @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403
      @hamiltoncarvalhoii9403 Před 4 lety +18

      @boom Nah I disagree about that level 100 thing. Sure he could level all his pokemon to 100 but more than "a challenge" he's also trying to find out what's absolutely necessary to beat the game. That's a key part of these challenge runs that he mentions in his videos. Almost ANY pokemon can beat the game at level 100, he knows this, but these runs aren't a matter of "if" he cant beat the game with said pokemon, but who is it easiest with. If you watch his last video he does exactly this by comparing the levels of each starter in their respective runs. He says bulbasaur is the easiest because it was only level 69 when he beat Blue, while the other two starters needed 70+. Your argument isn't relevant here, in this context, speeding up the game is totally in the cards. This is more of a data collecting thing than a "challenge" anyway.

  • @lightsen
    @lightsen Před 4 lety +237

    just a comment to say I'm loving these videos, from forgetting mimic even existed to seeing it used to effectively was super interesting

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 Před 4 lety +4

      In Gen 1, Mimic lets you copy a move from your opponent, unlike in today's game, where it only copies the move that your opponent used last turn.

    • @lightsen
      @lightsen Před 4 lety +10

      @@shadowtitanx3962 im glad it changed cause in doubles nowadays it would be broken haha

  • @chrisbage1834
    @chrisbage1834 Před 4 lety +658

    glad he doesn’t have to press b after every level up to avoid evolving

    • @whiterblue5960
      @whiterblue5960 Před 4 lety +43

      I was doing an only Geodude run in Pokémon Red and I accidentally evolved him and had to reset to where I last saved.

    • @cesarwitha_t
      @cesarwitha_t Před 4 lety +16

      @HettGutt If Weedle wasn't annoying enough.

    • @lisahenry20
      @lisahenry20 Před 4 lety +10

      That's why if I try doing a challenge run, I let the pokemon evolve. I can't be bothered doing that for each level

    • @bridgeseller7004
      @bridgeseller7004 Před 4 lety +15

      @@lisahenry20 Just give them an Everstone. It's almost in every game

    • @lisahenry20
      @lisahenry20 Před 4 lety +1

      @@bridgeseller7004 true, I kind ouf forgot that was an item

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez Před 4 lety +53

    "I never use Sky Attack on flying Pokémon. Like, who would use a two-turn attack?"
    Every single bird with Fly: Is that like a personal attack or something?

    • @antares4731
      @antares4731 Před 4 lety +8

      Amber Hernandez **dig**

    • @kazemizu
      @kazemizu Před 4 lety +34

      Yeah, except fly and dig have semi-impervious states in the first turn

  • @SamMcEn
    @SamMcEn Před 4 lety +98

    jrose: pokemon is a game of luck. also jrose: imma redo this gym cuz i got too lucky

  • @ironman-uc7ek
    @ironman-uc7ek Před 4 lety +390

    Jrose: can you beat pokemon with only Pikachu?
    The pokemon anime: yes

    • @_mako
      @_mako Před 4 lety +20

      ash never won a league. he always gives up at the elite four and quits the game

    • @ironman-uc7ek
      @ironman-uc7ek Před 4 lety +32

      @@_mako Gen 7: Am I a joke to you?

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 Před 4 lety +4

      If you can somehow get it Surf. It doesn't have a terribly bad movepool though its stats lack.

    • @EWOODJ
      @EWOODJ Před 4 lety +4

      @@_mako You’re funny.
      Also wrong.

    • @justuslueke
      @justuslueke Před 4 lety

      @@ironman-uc7ek actually

  • @scatlinksean
    @scatlinksean Před 4 lety +297

    Using speed up isn't a problem as it's an official feature "technically" as Pokemon Stadiums 1 and 2 offer the feature to GameBoy games if you unlock it. So no complaints.

    • @theSato
      @theSato Před 4 lety +5

      He does say this in the video, yes

    • @horizonbumpy2828
      @horizonbumpy2828 Před 4 lety +25

      @boom explain why speeding up is cheating?
      and it's not like this is an official challenge that is going to be registered anywhere.

    • @scatlinksean
      @scatlinksean Před 4 lety +25

      @Brian Dietz it saves time; that's all. You're not increasing your damage or exp or anything game-breaking.

    • @horizonbumpy2828
      @horizonbumpy2828 Před 4 lety +24

      @Brian Dietz instead of just saying that he is cheating, give a reason why you consider it cheating. Because i can't think of one

  • @apollomaster9301
    @apollomaster9301 Před 4 lety +41

    I absolutely *love* how the palettes are different every video
    It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but it's a super cool detail

  • @petercarioscia9189
    @petercarioscia9189 Před 4 lety +72

    In my 20 years of playing Pokemon, I have never once used mimic, even by accident and it's like your ace in the hole, your clutch secret weapon....man, truly you are the Pokemon Master

    • @lifetake3103
      @lifetake3103 Před 4 lety +13

      well when you have a full team that covers move weaknesses mimic is something completely unnecessary. Here mimic is the only option

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx Před 3 lety +12

      Mimic is only an option in Gen1. In later versions it picks the move the opponent used last, essentially making it unusable.

    • @jrpone
      @jrpone Před 3 lety +8

      I loved Mimic back in the day...you used to be able to choose your move from your opponents move pool, was so cool to use it and spy out movesets..lol

    • @yoseftreitman7226
      @yoseftreitman7226 Před 2 lety

      Watch his minimum battles vid. He says the same thing.

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 Před 8 měsíci

      Mimic is pretty much only immensely helpful in gen 1 solo runs.
      Otherwise, you either have another pokémon cover for your current one, or the move works differently.

  • @christalmeph
    @christalmeph Před 4 lety +143

    That one kid in class: Pikachu is the best pokemon so this will be the easiest

    • @whiterblue5960
      @whiterblue5960 Před 4 lety +14

      That other kid in class: lol pokemom is for childs noob fortnait is bests ahahaaujdhw

    • @helloiamenergyman
      @helloiamenergyman Před 4 lety +8

      @@whiterblue5960 Minecraft gud fortnait bed

    • @sleprvrru6y-lin-92
      @sleprvrru6y-lin-92 Před 4 lety +10

      That other kid that cheats : *ARCE(ASS) IS DE BAST POKAMAN WITH HYDRO CANNON EARTHQUAKE JUDGEMENT AND SHADOW CLAW*
      Me an intellectual : *what's this moveset*

    • @theapprovr
      @theapprovr Před 4 lety +1

      @@sleprvrru6y-lin-92 Exactly, who runs hydro CANNOn.

    • @sleprvrru6y-lin-92
      @sleprvrru6y-lin-92 Před 4 lety +2

      Every noob with a shiny arceus in gen 6 lol

  • @tydymiler
    @tydymiler Před 4 lety +115

    Really loving these uploads, hope there is enough sustained engagement to keep them coming.
    And definitely utilize speed-ups with the Retron. I can't stand when the comments section acts like grinding your life away at 1x speed for no reason is a badge of honor.

    • @thatguy4996
      @thatguy4996 Před 4 lety +4

      TyDy Miler or like it’s some kind of crime to speed up so grinding doesn’t break his soul

  • @OCBased
    @OCBased Před 4 lety +6

    This video right here is why I think you are one of the best challenge runners out there. As oppose to Mah Dried Bread who just grinds and uses Double Team to solve all his problems, you actually strategize and find creative ways around your roadblocks. Good luck for Weedle.

  • @Igorcastrochucre
    @Igorcastrochucre Před 4 lety +76

    I imagine it would be even easier in Yellow, as you can connect to a N64 with Stadium and give Pikachu Surf, which essentially destroys anything rock or ground.

    • @H3XM4N1AC
      @H3XM4N1AC Před rokem

      pikachu is a monster in every way shape and form

    • @randumo24
      @randumo24 Před rokem

      Not really. Even though it gets a better move, Giovanni gets a massive upgrade in his team. Not only do all of his standard pokemon have EQ, but he also has a Persian with Slash.

    • @bradleywalker8642
      @bradleywalker8642 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@randumo24Igor is saying that you can transfer Pikachu to Stadium64, learn Surf, then transfer him back to GameBoy Yellow, and fight regular Brock and Giovanni.

  • @manguy01
    @manguy01 Před 4 lety +84

    I'd say Bulbasaur still keeps the top spot.
    This is mostly a tie. But Bulbasaur was your first run and you were still getting used to a lot of these obscure mechanics. So Bulbasaur would win the tie, in my mind. Plus it took slightly less time. Also seems like there was a lot more luck in this run. But that's hard to account for.

    • @gabbo3.070
      @gabbo3.070 Před 4 lety

      Pikachu beat the game at lvl 68 tho

    • @CuulX
      @CuulX Před 4 lety +6

      @@gabbo3.070 Didn't bulbasaur do it too? Both beat it at 68 and leveled up to 69 with the last win?

    • @leonelrovira3300
      @leonelrovira3300 Před 4 lety +16

      You have to consider that the crits happen more often because of Pikachu's higher speed stat so while there is luck involved just by being faster the likelihood of a critical hit goes up. It's a debate

    • @gabbo3.070
      @gabbo3.070 Před 4 lety +5

      @@leonelrovira3300 it's not really luck just bad programming

    • @CuulX
      @CuulX Před 4 lety +5

      @@gabbo3.070 bad programming has nothing to do with this. It's orthogonal to the matter of luck.

  • @jimmyzeke13
    @jimmyzeke13 Před 4 lety +41

    Thanks for helping me procrastinate on my university papers.

  • @skibalovesya
    @skibalovesya Před 4 lety +11

    I've never commented before but I just wanted to say thank you for making these challenge runs. I find your style the most enjoyable out of any of the Poketubers I've seen, and they've been keeping me entertained on my closing shifts given everything that's been going on in the world. I appreciate all the effort you go to to make these possible.

  • @latrodectusmactans7592
    @latrodectusmactans7592 Před 4 lety +5

    This is one of my favorite challenge runs ever because of how you used Mimic. I never would have even considered these strategies.

  • @mrdewarion
    @mrdewarion Před 4 lety +53

    16:24 'Pidgeot and Gyrados are still one hit KOs, Growlithe isn't'
    Continues to one hit KO Growlithe in the video 😁

    • @edmn
      @edmn Před 4 lety +3

      Also, 'Pidgeotto?'

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 Před 4 lety +4

      I think he means it isn't *always* 1 hit (it's in the damage range but a low roll won't OHK). Or he just misspoke idk

    • @mrdewarion
      @mrdewarion Před 4 lety +1

      @@exantiuse497 Doesn't matter really, I'm deliberately nitpicky here :p Honestly though, I just thought it was a funny moment^^ I seriously enjoy these videos.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles Před 4 lety

      @@exantiuse497 I've had times where the exact same play went ever so slightly differently. It's not always predictable how much damage you'll exactly get

  • @ckillgore
    @ckillgore Před 4 lety +113

    This format could potentially be a endless source of content. If you feel like continuing this series after you do all of gen 1, you could do gen 2, but only used potential starters that are exclusive to gen 2. Same with gen 3 and so on.

    • @The_Ninja_Tree
      @The_Ninja_Tree Před 4 lety +6

      This man is giving you sage advice

    • @groudonvert7286
      @groudonvert7286 Před 4 lety +7

      I'm not sure that Baby Pokémon in Gen 3 are good enough for the game ^^'' Wobbuffet can't finish Pokémon Emerald without objects, Wynaut is way worse than him.

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Před 4 lety +9

      @@groudonvert7286 Azurill can, though. Huge Power is OP.

    • @groudonvert7286
      @groudonvert7286 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rjante2236 yeah if you have it.

    • @genuineangusbeef8697
      @genuineangusbeef8697 Před 4 lety +19

      I don't know if the format will work beyond Gen 1. Several things about this Gen specifically make these challenges far more possible and interesting. Stuff like fighting gym leaders wildly out of order, the awful enemy movesets, the abundance of strong TMs early on, the terrible AI, and the badge boost glitch all contribute to making these runs reasonably possible before level 100.

  • @catherinelastname
    @catherinelastname Před 4 lety +3

    I hadn’t even noticed the different colour palettes in each playthrough, but now I’m almost as excited to see those as I am to see which Pokémon is next! Such a cool idea!

  • @lennyward7662
    @lennyward7662 Před 4 lety +1

    Your Pokemon challenges have proven to be my favorite of all the CZcamsrs I've seen so far. Thanks for the hard work, informative commentary, and entertaining product.

  • @epithayadarcithia2117
    @epithayadarcithia2117 Před 4 lety +37

    I love the fact that these come out at like 3AM for me so after my self loathing from 2-3 I can relax

  • @chuckheredia9
    @chuckheredia9 Před 4 lety +17

    You were the first person I saw that made these type of videos. I'm so glad that you're grinding through all these challenges and upfront about all your processes. I wish i could count as more than one subscriber to help you on your way to 200k. You're gonna make it!

    • @theSato
      @theSato Před 4 lety +1

      You can, make a few additional accounts to subscribe with. I subbed 8 times :P

  • @xmgaming2444
    @xmgaming2444 Před 4 lety +7

    You actually used my new intro! Glad I can be a part of the channel in a small way. :D

  • @BrynRuskin
    @BrynRuskin Před 4 lety +3

    This series is so cool, thanks for doing this!

  • @Gungho73
    @Gungho73 Před 4 lety +17

    Body slam is such a good move in gen 1 when you think of how many pokemon it is applicable to.

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 Před 4 lety

      Yep. Body Slam in Gen 1 was pretty good in general. Lots of Mons get it. Plus, the 30% Paralysis is really good. The only downside is that Body Slam in Gen 1 cannot "Paralyze" Normal types.

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 Před rokem

      Yeah, it's funny how 95% of the moves are complete garbage and then you have thunderbolt, surf, ice beam, flamethrower, fire blast, thunder, blizzard, hyper beam, earthquake, psychic, dig and bodyslam. Compare Bodyslam (85 power, 100 accuracy, 30% paralysis) to submission (80 power, 80 accuracy, does recoil to yourself)

  • @huff3782
    @huff3782 Před 4 lety +7

    Hey Jrose! I love these videos and really admire your dedication to keeping things as genuine as possible. Hopefully people in the comments stop giving you so much flak! If they want the totally pure and genuine experience they can do the challenge on OG hardware themselves. Video production takes work and it's always a treat to see you post a new vid.

  • @connorgraham4821
    @connorgraham4821 Před 4 lety

    I can’t wait for part 5 man, keep up the good work, loving this series!❤️

  • @Nighty93_
    @Nighty93_ Před 4 lety

    I love this series! Really happy that you produce content like this! It's so entertaining and thanks also for making these videos lengthy!! I wouldn't mind if they are 1 hour per episode even. I love watching them. Thanks for the great work you do!!

  • @genuineangusbeef8697
    @genuineangusbeef8697 Před 4 lety +8

    I'm absolutely hooked on this series.
    I think the tier list could use a "consistency" column. Not necessarily a statistic, but just a way to fill in the gap left by what's there alone.
    Speed is super important in Gen 1, and that seems to be the main takeaway here. Movepool also helped, Seismic Toss is an option the other electrics will loathe not having, but it was huge that you could just attack before being attacked against most foes. I wanna see how tough it is for Paras.

  • @theSato
    @theSato Před 4 lety +10

    Sick update to the thumbnails! I miss the old ones tbh but these are objectively superior designs and much more readable at a small size - very important - this coming from a thumbnail artist!

  • @CreepyKillerNL
    @CreepyKillerNL Před 4 lety +1

    Just found your channel and I'm really enjoying this series. Looking forward to all the other runs!

  • @osrsgoaltender3069
    @osrsgoaltender3069 Před 4 lety

    I look forward to these videos! Super hyped about this one. Thanks for taking our minds off this crazy stuff! You the best jrose!

  • @bradenspangler7710
    @bradenspangler7710 Před 4 lety +8

    I can't wait to watch these as they come out then watch the 40 hour playlist again once all 50+ runs are complete

  • @nathanielgrey4091
    @nathanielgrey4091 Před 4 lety +42

    I was just wondering when this would come out.
    Also, I remember your Yellow least battle video. I can't imagine this going well.
    Edit: I stand corrected.

  • @TheDashingStallion
    @TheDashingStallion Před 4 lety +2

    Really great videos, man! Been learning alot

  • @np8139
    @np8139 Před 4 lety +2

    I can't get enough of these videos, so speed up the game as much as you want as long as the game play remains the same. Thanks for giving me something to look forward to while quarantined, Jrose.

  • @SirKryntik
    @SirKryntik Před 4 lety +117

    You should give Magikarp another try, NOW HEAR ME OUT. There's a legal event Magikarp that can learn Dragon Rage. It's legal in competitive battling, so why not give it a shot?

    • @SuperTtKiller
      @SuperTtKiller Před 4 lety +1

      How where event

    • @counterfeit1148
      @counterfeit1148 Před 4 lety +2

      Legit and allowed are alternative words.

    • @counterfeit1148
      @counterfeit1148 Před 4 lety +12

      @@SuperTtKiller The event is over, but the Magikarps can still exist on some save files.

    • @SirKryntik
      @SirKryntik Před 4 lety +53

      @@SuperTtKiller University Magikarp from '99 I believe. It was a Japanese event and the reward was a Magikarp with Dragon Rage. It could be added in via cheating device (which is already used to manipulate the starter, so no harm there) and then would be able to do damage in the Pokemon Tower in Lavender Town. Worst case scenario, we get more Magikarp content.
      I say we push the issue and try to get a video out of it. It's a legit option that could realistically make it through the whole game.

    • @chlorobyte_projects
      @chlorobyte_projects Před 4 lety +2

      @@counterfeit1148 I mean, Magikarp wouldn't really have a chance otherwise, considering it learns Tackle at level 15, it just *might* have a chance at beating Brock.

  • @ydbg56gfdf4
    @ydbg56gfdf4 Před 4 lety +3

    I’m loving this so much, keep it up :)))

  • @pj5092
    @pj5092 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm really enjoying all of your videos! You put in a lot of strategy and planning into your fights.

  • @Norien711
    @Norien711 Před 4 lety

    I love these videos and this series. So excited for it to continue! The pace of these uploads recently is awesome

  • @atompanax7277
    @atompanax7277 Před 4 lety +2

    I love the new intro and I’m loving the series so far 😊

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 Před 4 lety

      The support for the new intro is much appreciated! :D

  • @zenkichihitoyoshi9513
    @zenkichihitoyoshi9513 Před 4 lety +5

    Oh hey, the new intro sounds great! Looking forward to the other parts

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 Před 4 lety +2

      I'm glad people like my new intro, I'm just happy my work has become a little part of the channel!

    • @zenkichihitoyoshi9513
      @zenkichihitoyoshi9513 Před 4 lety +1

      XM Gaming I was wondering if your comment was noticed on the previous video and there it is! Great work!

  • @gabevans087
    @gabevans087 Před 3 lety

    That’s fossil fossil rivalry end comment in the video seems interesting.
    Always nice to watch your content.
    So relaxing and a break from classes and assignments. Need to get my popcorn and soda stash for these 😂

  • @brendang2441
    @brendang2441 Před 4 lety

    Love this series so much. I look forward to these videos every two days now haha

  • @Morvven
    @Morvven Před 4 lety +7

    Don't apologize for speeding the game. I for one, can't even play regular pokemon because its so godawful slow. So speed it up and do yourself a favor :D

  • @aiko1697
    @aiko1697 Před 4 lety +6

    It's 3:30 in the morning right now, so the soft intro music was really nice.

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 Před 4 lety +3

      I'm glad people seem to be enjoying it, I didn't even know it would be included in this video lol

  • @MiKz17z
    @MiKz17z Před 4 lety

    These videos are Amazing, can't wait to se what's coming next 💪🏼

  • @ultralightjay7793
    @ultralightjay7793 Před 4 lety +2

    your work ethic as of late is insane. Keep it up! Patiently awaiting the weedle run (for better or worse)

  • @jeroenvdw
    @jeroenvdw Před 4 lety +6

    When I was young i did this with Pikachu only. My moveset was Thunderbolt, Double Team, Mimic and Thunder. At Bruno I used Mimic to Mimic Earthquake and then steamroll him. Same for Gary his Rhydon.

  • @bobbyhinner3225
    @bobbyhinner3225 Před 4 lety +5

    Yeah I love the color changing palettes, you can do it on the original hardware as well which a lot of people don’t know

  • @biggator7233
    @biggator7233 Před 2 lety

    So interesting going back to your old videos after seeing your newer videos. How similar they are, and some of the newer jokes referring to old videos. Or how much more explanation goes into these older ones. I absolutely love your content and will drop everything when you upload. Good luck on future runs and don't forget Sabrina.

  • @litodelaghetto853
    @litodelaghetto853 Před 4 lety

    Jose man keep it up, I know these videos take super long and take a lot of patience but we appreciate them and look forward to them during quarantine. Thank you and plz keep them coming!

  • @Lenwulf
    @Lenwulf Před 4 lety +45

    Jrose: So to get pikachu we’re gonna use a ganeshark
    Pokemon Yellow: Am I a joke to you?

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 Před 4 lety +8

      How would yo keep these consistent with yellow? Quite a many differences with enemies there.

    • @CharlieZColt
      @CharlieZColt Před 4 lety +4

      Brock is easier and the starter Pikachu is stronger in yellow too

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 Před 4 lety

      @@CharlieZColt Does it have some max IV's or something? Because otherwise it just has a bit better movepool, notably Thunderbolt at 26, but that you would get around the same level from Surge anyways.

    • @CharlieZColt
      @CharlieZColt Před 4 lety +1

      Wombat not sure about IV’s but it gets Slam instead of Swift (I prefer slam because more damage) and Double Team which is a very broken movie if you can set up with it, basically you can spam double team so you just won’t get hit at all. Also the fights against Brock and Erika are easier.

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 Před 4 lety +3

      @@CharlieZColt Oh yeah so you only referred to the movepool. Slam is honestly trash since you get Mega Punch in Mt Moon (and more of them in Celadon store), which has the same power and is more accurate, and later Body Slam, which is better than both of those in every way. And if you calculate average power (power*accuracy), Swift has the exact same as Slam.
      Double Team is also a TM that you can get from Celadon store, though in Yellow Pikachu learns it way before you get there, so that could be counted as an advantage. It also learns Quick attack at 11 instead of 16, which actually could be beneficial for this run.
      Some fights indeed are easier and there are fewer rocket fights, that is the main reason why running in Yellow would be unfair.

  • @OmegaTyrant
    @OmegaTyrant Před 4 lety +3

    Seeing how much just getting three badge boosts with Agility helped out Pikachu, yeah I'm sure now Withdraw would have helped Squirtle more than having both Body Slam and Dig did. Getting all your stats nearly doubled > a bit more move coverage.

  • @paigemosson
    @paigemosson Před 4 lety +1

    I'm so happy you have been putting so much content out lately! Here's hoping you make it to 200k soon!!!

  • @phoebe5114
    @phoebe5114 Před 4 lety +2

    Love the different game color for each mon. Hoping that continues!!

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 Před 4 lety +6

    Wow, I never expected Pikachu to be so good, badge boosts really do seem to make these runs possible though

  • @calt7964
    @calt7964 Před 4 lety +23

    Love that conquest music as usual! Here’s a question, would you ever consider reviewing the game? Or trying a challenge in that game? Maybe try beating it with just eevee and jigglypuff?

    • @corenlavolpe6143
      @corenlavolpe6143 Před 4 lety

      I'd definitely love to see that! It's my favorite spinoff.

    • @theSato
      @theSato Před 4 lety +1

      I've done it with just Eevee Puff pretty far but got bored and stopped, didnt auite finish but went long into it . .

  • @TheRealPyroBlue
    @TheRealPyroBlue Před 4 lety +1

    Love these videos man, keep up the great work!

  • @wiresculptor5951
    @wiresculptor5951 Před 11 měsíci

    You're doing amazing work love the channel ❤

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel Před 4 lety +19

    10:20 "And this is really starting to shock me"
    Hehe get it, cause it's a Pikachu

  • @shadowmoasic3524
    @shadowmoasic3524 Před 4 lety +38

    Time to try again. Gastly would be an amazing choice since it wouldn't be such a massive grind for you to do and it's amazing special and moveset

    • @nathanielgrey4091
      @nathanielgrey4091 Před 4 lety +10

      The first half is going to be hilarious.

    • @leonelrovira3300
      @leonelrovira3300 Před 4 lety

      Unfortunately stab moves are gonna be trash because Ghost type is physical in gen 1 and Gastly doesn't learn any boosting moves other than double team so no badge boost. I expect Gastly to be a difficult

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 Před 4 lety

      Although, Alakazam is gonna be a common theme in the last half of the game. So, there's that to worry about. Not to mention its crazy high Speed stat/Crit Ratio.

    • @kassadus2499
      @kassadus2499 Před 4 lety +1

      Gastly is the easiest mon to beat the Game with. It's base stats are so absurdly high when combined with badge boosts and stat exp that even without a boosting or Stab move it tears through everything with ease. The only threats in the entire game are getting hit by hypnosis from Agatha or getting crit by Alakazam psychic.
      You also roll through the entire early game effortlessly since nothing can hit you.

    • @leonelrovira3300
      @leonelrovira3300 Před 4 lety

      @@kassadus2499 to use badge boost you have to use a boosting move and the only boosting move you have access to in gen one is double team which jrose doesn't like using because it's too cheesy so that really leaves badge boost out of the picture

  • @indyanbigboy89
    @indyanbigboy89 Před 3 lety

    Dude I love your commentary and the way you talk. Can really connect with all the things that are going in your head while you are playing. I actually enjoy hearing you commentate as I go to sleep at night :P

  • @scythes2864
    @scythes2864 Před 4 lety

    Very chill video series to watch during my playthrough of Bannerlord. Thanks and keep it up!

  • @Korm
    @Korm Před 4 lety +7

    This was really enjoyable! Just started watching recently, and I've got to say, I absolutely respect you wanting to play on legitimate hardware. I'm the exact same way. If it can be done one a real game, I absolutely will! Keep up the good work!

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 Před 4 lety

      *_Le Gasp_* another good YT in the comment section of a good YT

  • @Ruxin34
    @Ruxin34 Před 4 lety

    Awesome series. I love to watch these!

  • @jamesjr2219901
    @jamesjr2219901 Před 9 měsíci

    Road to 200k… checks notes… congrats on 300K SUBS!!!!!! Keep up the great content!

  • @faze2alien
    @faze2alien Před 4 lety +4

    At the end of the series (and assuming you decide to do this with all generations with the new Pokémon respectively) you should take the top 6 Pokémon you think you had the easiest time with and the 6 Pokémon you had the hardest time with and do a separate video for them as 1 party.

  • @spencerwilken9974
    @spencerwilken9974 Před 4 lety +3

    Great video! But you could have saved a lot of time on Brock if you would have just turned the sprinklers on... 😂

  • @Toastishott
    @Toastishott Před 4 lety

    Jrose you're my favorite poketuber love these rapid fire uploads!

  • @everydayentertainment8574

    Jrose11 keep doing your thing. Bringing solid content and new strategies every time. My brother you are keeping the nostalgia alive for a generation of people.

  • @YodatheJedi12
    @YodatheJedi12 Před 4 lety +4

    I actually thought this would be Weedle and was looking forward to the trouble you would have and if you would pull through. Oh well, I suppose we'll have to wait!!

  • @FrostAskar2332
    @FrostAskar2332 Před 4 lety +4

    I like how he says "Koga was too lucky. Let's challenge him again" first time I see a pokechallenger do that

  • @robertm5110
    @robertm5110 Před 4 lety

    Rival second last using just a potion was hilarious hahaha. Good video! Awesome series! Keep it up! Do Eevee next (technically a starter too)

  • @bslife723
    @bslife723 Před 4 lety

    Liking the vids! Glad you'll able to speed up the gameplay to keep these coming out! Keep up the good work 💪

  • @skylarfox_bmb
    @skylarfox_bmb Před 4 lety +4

    I saw the Mimic TM and was instantly curious. I was not disappointed at all

  • @IDKGeorge123
    @IDKGeorge123 Před 4 lety +3

    Probably one of my most embarrassing stories but here we go, so when I was eight Pokémon yellow had come out. I was so excited I reached lavender town with a inventory of Pokémon and I had no idea you could deposit Pokémon or where Pokémon I had caught were going. Also Typing didn’t mean a thing to me so I spent days trying to beat brock with pikachu.. you know though, that beating made it a challenge in my mind and it really was.. and when I beat him it gave me the motivation to see that journey through like all great games do. I miss the old games, no hand holding even for kids games, figure it out on your own. Wasn’t that the magic?

  • @blaneyfan73
    @blaneyfan73 Před 4 lety

    Jrose11 I just started watching your videos recently, and they are awesome. I hope you reach 200K! You deserve to, providing us with this amazing content. Keep it up.

  • @nathanogara9660
    @nathanogara9660 Před 4 lety +1

    Dude I haven't played Pokemon in 10 years and I only played gen 4, as a kid that knew nothing about the game, and ur content is still great, idk what it is but it's good to watch

  • @AelfricBlack
    @AelfricBlack Před 4 lety +9

    I like the new jingle.
    Also love your stuff, you're helping me a lot through this lockdown.
    Hope to see one thousand more of your videos!

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 Před 4 lety +1

      I made the new intro and I'm glad people seem to be enjoying it. Even if nobody knows it was me, the positivity is really inspiring :D

    • @theSato
      @theSato Před 4 lety

      @@xmgaming2444 you say "even if nobody knows it was you" but you're seeking out every comment pointing out the changed intro to say it was you lol

    • @xmgaming2444
      @xmgaming2444 Před 4 lety +1

      @@theSato Well, I enjoy responding to people who resonate with my work to give myself a sense of personality and community. Also having my music here is a big win for me so I'm enjoying the moment.

    • @AelfricBlack
      @AelfricBlack Před 4 lety +1

      Nothing wrong with looking for feedback, enjoying it and replying! It's just natural to be proud of one's work and be interested in opinions and discussions about it.

  • @Mc-lu5ic
    @Mc-lu5ic Před 4 lety +6

    I really like your footage sped up. No complaints here! Love this series keep it going

  • @DarkAnarchy666
    @DarkAnarchy666 Před 4 lety

    I thought you said that you speed the game up after you play it. Which didn't make any sense.
    I love these series. I watched half of this during my break at work. I like it that much.
    Keep making 'em!

  • @MasterSpud
    @MasterSpud Před 4 lety +1

    Like these new thumbnail designs. Hope you get to 200k soon, you definitely deserve it.

  • @ThatguycalledJoe
    @ThatguycalledJoe Před 4 lety +42

    "We outspeed the Onix"
    "We can safely use Quick Attack"
    Erm... someone wanna break it to him?

    • @Adam-lw6es
      @Adam-lw6es Před 4 lety +1

      ERM

    • @rob.3955
      @rob.3955 Před 4 lety +2

      He had no moves besides Quick Attack that could hit Onix.

    • @ThatguycalledJoe
      @ThatguycalledJoe Před 4 lety +12

      Which is increased priority.
      Brock's Onix doesn't have any increased priority moves itself.
      So Speed doesn't matter.

    • @bitemytail
      @bitemytail Před 4 lety +1

      Bide also has priority (he says it doesn't in gen 1, but I don't think that is correct), so being faster than Onix is needed for quick attack to avoid hitting him during bide.

    • @kkwolf1922
      @kkwolf1922 Před 4 lety +9

      Patrick Murphy according to bulbapedia, bide wasn’t given priority till gen 4.

  • @LuMnOsITi
    @LuMnOsITi Před 4 lety +4

    "Growlithe isn't [a one hit KO]"
    *Proceeds to kill in 1 hit*

  • @brettschmuckler4242
    @brettschmuckler4242 Před 4 lety

    Hey man, love the series and channel. Keep it up!

  • @rdyyoung3
    @rdyyoung3 Před 4 lety

    Hey Jrose, just saying, it great to see you uploading frequent content and I love the channel

  • @androsp9105
    @androsp9105 Před 4 lety +22

    I think tentacool will be good.
    -Good speed + wrap for early game
    -Very good special
    -Surf
    -Ice beam
    -Mega drain

    • @OmegaTyrant
      @OmegaTyrant Před 4 lety +2

      Tentacool is gonna have a problem with Kadabra/Alakazam, and its physical movepool outside of Wrap is ass (no Body Slam and best physical move it gets is Double Edge). Getting three Swords Dance in and getting three badge boosts in the process could allow it to get past them reliably with Wrap without being too overlevelled though, and it will definitely fuck the rest of the game up.

    • @androsp9105
      @androsp9105 Před 4 lety

      @@OmegaTyrant
      For champion's Alakazam you can just set up on pidgeot. Sabrina would be hard though. Also dratini with wrap + agility, almost no weaknesses and nearly every tm will be pretty busted.
      EDIT: Nice Cacodemon.

    • @OmegaTyrant
      @OmegaTyrant Před 4 lety

      @@androsp9105 Without Barrier though the PIdgeot would do serious damage to it with Sky Attack when Tentacool has very low HP and Defense, and having both Barrier + Swords Dance would mean giving up one of Surf, Ice Beam/Blizzard, and Wrap, all really helpful moves, while Barrier being a level up move means it can't be saved until the Champion battle. Then if it uses Mirror Move on the Swords Dance that could be a run ender if that wasn't your last boost. It might be quite luck-based to set up enough on the Pidgeot to get through the rest of the team at an especially low level.

    • @androsp9105
      @androsp9105 Před 4 lety

      @@OmegaTyrant I think you can stop sky attack from completing with wrap. I'm not sure though.

    • @OmegaTyrant
      @OmegaTyrant Před 4 lety

      @@androsp9105 That should work, because of Wrap misses there is still luck involved but it could be a manageable amount.