Lol, its always an option but I don't live dangerously. I don't think the prison life is for me, I'd get it in the ass every night (not because I'm good looking, but because of my nice juicy ass)
Clous von i can just imagine the cool laid back seating position you have... That guy probably drives on track too, and that's the seating oosition you have.
Khu NoPie not really, since the airbag wouldn't even deploy, because he can actually react quick enough to a new situation without causing an accident while failing to get up from the napping position and trying to set his fries into the cup holder. the way most americans drive. that's why you have so many deadly accidents without actually driving fast.
Sandouras "some cases" Depends on what you like. It doesn't look like the wheel is as close in the driving shots as the side shot when he's talking inside the car. Your comment was more towards it being uncool tho to have the steering wheel that close.
hahah..i thought so aswell....thats too close..in an unfortunate incident of airbags opening up, he would be hit in face with an impact which could change the shape of his nose :P
hahah..i thought so aswell....thats too close..in an unfortunate incident of airbags opening up, he would be hit in face with an impact which could change the shape of his nose :P
SaLad G It's official classification is a full size luxury saloon, a sporty one at that, which is strange, because the Aston Rapide is classed as a 4 door sports car
Kaisuke971 Are you kidding me? The excessive hand gestures, the "grandma" driving position, "isix" seat, "Efflessly", "Efflessly", Tesla Model eSk? Wtf?
LOL, had to reply to this (I know its 8 months ago!), but yeah!, what would that even do?!, i guarantee he kept all of the buttons turned on when handed the car back, hazard lights, full beams...the lot! :-)
nah, i would still pick A7, even the current one, not including next year one(which will be even better). I didn't check if audi is cheaper than porsche tho. A7 looks better to me.
James Batchelor, I am really impressed with how quickly you replied. It is, of course an improbably good car. All Porsches are. They defy normal rules by being 10% lighter and 10% more roomy than its competitors.
£113k for a Panamera diesel?? In about a years time we will be seeing the new CLS63 and new RS7 which will both be priced from £90k and have just as nice interiors but with 600+ bhp. Porsche really know how to fuck you on optional extras.
UzzyFuzzyy not the current rs7, i meant the new 2018 model which will fall in line with the design cues from the new Q7/A4 etc. Spec yourself a porsche panamera, it literally has fuck all as standard and they never have decent option packages, its so not worth buying new
More or less, yes. The design of the diesel engine makes it so that they are incredibly torque-y from very low rpm's but they don't rev very high. Most diesel engines redline at or before 5000 rpm. There's a reason a lot of American heavy duty pick up trucks, and most semi trucks and busses are diesels.
Modern tubocharged petrol engines have peak torque available from lower rpm than most turbodiesels. But this diesel not only has 2 turbos but also 1 electric compressor! That's why it has so much torque at so low rpm. This 4.0 V8 TDI is capable of 900Nm of torque, whereas newest 4.0 V8 petrol engine from AMG delivers 850Nm, but significantly more horsepower. Not to mention insane sound of the petrol V8 :-)
Kudos for Porsche's effort to have RHD user interface for the sat-nav, etc. In many cars you ask yourself why are the buttons so far away, until you realize, you just sit "on the wrong" side from a developper perspective. Sure it's easy to do on a touch-screen, but still deserves appreciation.
And your point is? What "most" people think is irrelevant. If the proportions look off to me, then that's it, they look off to me. There's not much to it.
Here's my take on the Panamera and I've seen several up close. It looks really nice from *some* angles. But from others, it looks weird. I don't feel the same about the smaller Porsches like the Boxster or Cayman, they look good all around.
I could never quite put my finger on what James reminds me of, until now. For some reason, he reminds me of Sergio Perez. Although I doubt he's as fast as him.
Batch, you'll get "thumbs up" this time. It was a good, factual and informative review. For its class and claim I like the new Panamera quite well, but in my (own old) Porsche world - still - 4 doors, Diesel and 2tons won't fit a Porsche badge.
Hi BBD Smint, my original comment on the costs of running a Panamera, were made in response to James's remark that the running costs of a Panamera were similar to those of a medium priced family car. He readily admitted that this was whimsical. Of course the Panamera is a better proposition than other cars of a similar price. Every Porsche is. However working for 30 years in the Motor Industry Informs me that medium priced family cars are different to supercars. Will you allow me that?
I actually liked the original Panamera, but this right here is a much more stunningly beautiful car. I love the user interfaces and screens everywhere. It screams luxury and high-tech. As always, well done Porsche.
Okay, three things to say... first of all, thx to the review, I was able to convince my father to change his Mercedes-Benz S 400 4MATIC Long (V222) into the new car: Porsche Panamera 4S (971). We just ordered it in Korea, and hopefully it will arrive shortly/soon. Secondly, it is not a hatchback but a fastback. I mean, have you ever seen a 5 metres long hatchback before? lol I don't think so. Lastly, the engined fitted in the base model is a single turbocharged 3 litre V6 petrol engine that is found in Audi models such as Audi S4 (B9) and Audi A8 3.0 TFSI Quattro (D5), and not a twin turbocharged 2.9 litre V6 petrol engine with a different setting that is found in Audi models such as Audi RS 4 Avant (B9) or the Audi RS 5 Coupé for example.
The base Panamera has a 3.0 turbo V6, not a 2.9 turbo V6. That only comes in the S and is also shared with the Audi Rs5, while the 3.0 in the base Panamera is shared with Audi's S4 and S5.
When getting the correct driving position, lean back so that shoulders touches seat. Then hold your arms straight forward, and your wrists should be on top of stearing wheel. Nice review of a great looking Porsche :)
it would have been nice if they added a picture of the normal and the executive model, just to get a look at the difference in shape after increasing the wheel base.
It's a cool concept but it is rather unnecessary. I would imagine that it won't be a good feeling when one of the electric motors fails, although it is a Porsche, so it's not likely to happen.
Good review. You sound and construct sentences like Quentin Wilson. It would be great to see rear space with front seats in a normal driving position though.
Mikael Soltaniha As much as I would like it to, I don't think so. This is mainly because this interior is too, perhaps, luxurious, and the 911 is the king of sports, and this interior doesn't really fit a 911, but maybe the bigger screen and the touch buttons will be there, in a different look.
Hi Andrew Rossiter.... of course you don't agree.. if you regard £10K depreciation fine, on a second hand car which cost considerably less than £113K, then that is fine. A two year old Panamera costing £113K will have a trade value of £72K after 2 years, hence my comment. This percentage residual is better than most similar cars and far better than say a top spec Range Rover. I certainlly would not disrespect your choice of what is clearly a brilliant car.
"Running costs of a medium sized family car". Presumably you are referring to the fuel and the road tax. These are an astonishingly small part of the the costs of a car. When newish this car will depreciate as much as ordinary folks salaries. When older the parts and services will be shockingly expensive...
I dont agree. I've had a Panamera 4S for 4 years now (2010 car). Its been fine - just keep the warranty going each year and everything is covered. I've not had any large bills. Depreciation has been under 10k per year - I dont think thats too bad given the car. It also still looks as good as new inside and out - the build quality is awesome.
Not really- compared to most other similar cars around this price point, the Panamera will depreciate a lot less. Porsche have extremely good residuals across their range, and the servicing is really not that expensive considering the price point of the car.
A car that is marketed for the masses. Back seat, automatic, trunk. Yes a 4 door station wagon with a porsche badge. If you need something a little higher there is always the front wheel drive bmw suv.
5:10 Really Porsche? On such an expensive car, you don't include buttons in the trunk to drop the seats down, you still have to climb through the back doors? Or even just a manual latch that you can find in ANY estate/station car?
I love looking at cars I can't ever afford, it gives you motivation to hustle in life haha
Lol, its always an option but I don't live dangerously. I don't think the prison life is for me, I'd get it in the ass every night (not because I'm good looking, but because of my nice juicy ass)
same
Well i m going to college while i m at college ill buy 50 plants and you can guess
Fry Wolf LOL gay
Yes indeed 😁😁
he's got the same seating position as my grandma
Clous von i can just imagine the cool laid back seating position you have...
That guy probably drives on track too, and that's the seating oosition you have.
Clous von probably has a sore bumhole.
That's the "killed by the air-bag" position
Khu NoPie not really, since the airbag wouldn't even deploy, because he can actually react quick enough to a new situation without causing an accident while failing to get up from the napping position and trying to set his fries into the cup holder. the way most americans drive.
that's why you have so many deadly accidents without actually driving fast.
Seized Cheese, :))))))) just imagined the guy spewing the fries out of his full mouth with disbelief when realizing the danger
Even my grandma sits farther away from the steering wheel. Jesus christ.
Sandouras I agree. He is sitting so close.
Having the steering wheel closer tho is better in some cases. Race car drivers often have their wheel mounted pretty close.
Kristian Hagene Racecars are nothing like normal cars and circuits are nothing like normal roads.
Sandouras "some cases"
Depends on what you like. It doesn't look like the wheel is as close in the driving shots as the side shot when he's talking inside the car.
Your comment was more towards it being uncool tho to have the steering wheel that close.
Sandouras if that airbag goes off he's getting knocked the fuck out
I think they have perfected the swooping roof line now it looks great
James Batchelor i
Ha why does this guy sit so god damn upright!
Red Phoenix 😂😂🤣😂
Your face is gonna get blown off if you get in an accident sitting that close to the airbag
LOL - ingenious reply
3:56 heated and cooled seat at the same time... some man just want to watch the world burn
Didn't know you could active both at same time
god damn dude. DONT SIT SO FUCKING CLOSE TO THE WHEEL
hahah..i thought so aswell....thats too close..in an unfortunate incident of airbags opening up, he would be hit in face with an impact which could change the shape of his nose :P
hahah..i thought so aswell....thats too close..in an unfortunate incident of airbags opening up, he would be hit in face with an impact which could change the shape of his nose :P
Was it really necessary to include hatchback in the title?
SaLad G yes to differentiate it from the upcoming station wagon variant
thomas rollfing oh i didn't know there would be a wagon
SaLad G
It's official classification is a full size luxury saloon, a sporty one at that, which is strange, because the Aston Rapide is classed as a 4 door sports car
SaLad G well, actually Porsche has shown pictures of a (very nice) shooting brake model....
So a coupé?
This guys reviews are growing on me
He was always pretty good, it's just that people are obnoxious and can't get over the fact that it's not matt.
Kaisuke971 Are you kidding me? The excessive hand gestures, the "grandma" driving position, "isix" seat, "Efflessly", "Efflessly", Tesla Model eSk?
Wtf?
The fact you put on the heated and cooling seats at the same time and didn't turn them off is really bugging me. . .haha
LOL, had to reply to this (I know its 8 months ago!), but yeah!, what would that even do?!, i guarantee he kept all of the buttons turned on when handed the car back, hazard lights, full beams...the lot! :-)
his seat is so close to the steering wheel he almost needs a car seat
Another top review from Jim
mJames Batchelor
I like this reviewer, he does the job well. Everyone else still seems to be bitchcing about Matt leaving get over it it's been ages now.
Looks soooo nice, i would definitely choose this over the RS7 now
Dezz9820 wait till the new A7 comes out late 2017 Will be über futuristic
Robitussin Ethanol I highly doubt it could keep up with Porsche
Marius Ipad you cant say that since BG and Lamb dont do sedans....
Marius Ipad that's...what??
nah, i would still pick A7, even the current one, not including next year one(which will be even better). I didn't check if audi is cheaper than porsche tho. A7 looks better to me.
Ignore the haters, it was a good review. Anyone paying attention to the content, and what you were saying, would realise this
that car is effing sick
dna598 ... probably more expensive than my house
they SO got it right this time
+dna598
Not everybody can be Perfect like You
😀😀😀😀😕😕😕😉😉
especially in white. lawd
They've really got the Panamera's design right this time around, didn't like the first one but I love this one. The rear's just so much better!
James Batchelor, I am really impressed with how quickly you replied. It is, of course an improbably good car. All Porsches are. They defy normal rules by being 10% lighter and 10% more roomy than its competitors.
£113k for a Panamera diesel?? In about a years time we will be seeing the new CLS63 and new RS7 which will both be priced from £90k and have just as nice interiors but with 600+ bhp. Porsche really know how to fuck you on optional extras.
UzzyFuzzyy not the current rs7, i meant the new 2018 model which will fall in line with the design cues from the new Q7/A4 etc. Spec yourself a porsche panamera, it literally has fuck all as standard and they never have decent option packages, its so not worth buying new
DuDe1040 you talking to me bitch?
Komor Uddin so hard...
UzzyFuzzyy lol maybe it takes him 15 minutes to cycle there? He literally just copied what i said but minused 5 mins lol
Probably does not even jave drivers licence,just day dreaming about driving german cars lmao
like the looks of this new porsche. It really is a well rounded every day sports car
Finally!!! I was waiting for this review for so long
why?
You're the first one I haven't heard complain about having to control the central air vent through the infotainment system.
Nice review!
Full torque from 1000 rpm, that's pretty impressive! Are all diesel cars like this ? Forgive my ignorance.
More or less, yes. The design of the diesel engine makes it so that they are incredibly torque-y from very low rpm's but they don't rev very high. Most diesel engines redline at or before 5000 rpm. There's a reason a lot of American heavy duty pick up trucks, and most semi trucks and busses are diesels.
Bailey Smith very cool! thanks
+Bailey Smith
Diesel Engines Win 24 hours of Le Mans...So what,s Wrong ...😕😕😉☺
I love diesels, but they don't sound very good at idle...
Hell, even the revving sounds decent.
Modern tubocharged petrol engines have peak torque available from lower rpm than most turbodiesels. But this diesel not only has 2 turbos but also 1 electric compressor! That's why it has so much torque at so low rpm.
This 4.0 V8 TDI is capable of 900Nm of torque, whereas newest 4.0 V8 petrol engine from AMG delivers 850Nm, but significantly more horsepower. Not to mention insane sound of the petrol V8 :-)
FINALLY a car, where the rear-seat passengers can see where they are actually going - via the navi screen on the rear middle console display! GREAT!
i always love the 911 design, even when it stretched.
Henry Rahardja same I have a 2016 911
If they were to release the sport turismo that would be my pick because I need a way bigger boot than that
Kudos for Porsche's effort to have RHD user interface for the sat-nav, etc. In many cars you ask yourself why are the buttons so far away, until you realize, you just sit "on the wrong" side from a developper perspective. Sure it's easy to do on a touch-screen, but still deserves appreciation.
Proportions are still off... sorry
Like you could afford one anyway.
Wow you just negated the ability of 90% of humankind from judging a car. Amazing. I might be poor af, but my eyes are working thanks.
Funny thing is, most people think it's a good looking car. So you odd and poor as fuck.
And your point is?
What "most" people think is irrelevant. If the proportions look off to me, then that's it, they look off to me. There's not much to it.
Here's my take on the Panamera and I've seen several up close. It looks really nice from *some* angles. But from others, it looks weird.
I don't feel the same about the smaller Porsches like the Boxster or Cayman, they look good all around.
I could never quite put my finger on what James reminds me of, until now. For some reason, he reminds me of Sergio Perez.
Although I doubt he's as fast as him.
Why do i torture myself by watching reviews of cars i cant realistically afford?!
someday
this car is absolutely a beauty
Thanks for a good review.
No insulting comments? Nice. ^^
your mom gae
dschonsie
there is always insulting comments we live with many dirty peoples in the eart 😒😒
James .... your presenting is "nothing short of remarkable"
Thanks for specifying it's the hatchback if it even is one, now I won't confuse it with the pickup version.
I stand corrected
I prefer the hatchback to the station wagon.
I absolutely love your attitude and your use of words! I really enjoy watching your car reviews. Keep up the good work.
The fact that the 21" wheels look like 19" kinda shows how big the car is
Great review !
Awesome review, happy holidays.
Some great color grading you did on this video.
I am in love. It's just right for me. The looks, the interior, the quality, the technology...
James you're fantastic!
I am who I am hi is gaya so are u!!!
Walter 777 and your old fart father too;)
I am who I am ( WTF )
Batch, you'll get "thumbs up" this time. It was a good, factual and informative review.
For its class and claim I like the new Panamera quite well, but in my (own old) Porsche world - still - 4 doors, Diesel and 2tons won't fit a Porsche badge.
I thought the old one was a moose, but they've hit the nail on the head with this baby - what a car. Lucky lad to get a go with this James.
My first purchase this car...... I'm very happy this purchase
haha my back hurts from only seeing you in this driving position
Hi BBD Smint, my original comment on the costs of running a Panamera, were made in response to James's remark that the running costs of a Panamera were similar to those of a medium priced family car. He readily admitted that this was whimsical. Of course the Panamera is a better proposition than other cars of a similar price. Every Porsche is. However working for 30 years in the Motor Industry Informs me that medium priced family cars are different to supercars. Will you allow me that?
Looks a mix of different Porsche and so many different angles! not sure about the exterior but interior is hot
I LOVE the interior of this car the screen and the button look lovely and modern can definitely tell this is VW/Audi family, great review James!
Sweet review man, I've grown to like your review style, cant wait for more!
wish you guys would provide performance numbers. I don't even think you said the torque on the diesel
The excellence has arrived
I actually liked the original Panamera, but this right here is a much more stunningly beautiful car. I love the user interfaces and screens everywhere. It screams luxury and high-tech. As always, well done Porsche.
Quentin Willson looking incredible for his age there ...nothing short of remarkable!
James Batchelor You do a fine job reviewing cars don't sweat the small stuff
I love this car, buying this car in the future
Mat should do all reviews
The first gen was much more banging at the time than this one.
I gotta say James, you got much, much better. Great review of even greater car (that I will never own since it costs almost as my apartment).
The new looks and that colour work really well! Oh and James stop reading the bottom half of the Internet! CZcams comments can be a horrible place!
Okay, three things to say... first of all, thx to the review, I was able to convince my father to change his Mercedes-Benz S 400 4MATIC Long (V222) into the new car: Porsche Panamera 4S (971). We just ordered it in Korea, and hopefully it will arrive shortly/soon. Secondly, it is not a hatchback but a fastback. I mean, have you ever seen a 5 metres long hatchback before? lol I don't think so. Lastly, the engined fitted in the base model is a single turbocharged 3 litre V6 petrol engine that is found in Audi models such as Audi S4 (B9) and Audi A8 3.0 TFSI Quattro (D5), and not a twin turbocharged 2.9 litre V6 petrol engine with a different setting that is found in Audi models such as Audi RS 4 Avant (B9) or the Audi RS 5 Coupé for example.
If you want more boot space, get the Sport Turismo.
The base Panamera has a 3.0 turbo V6, not a 2.9 turbo V6. That only comes in the S and is also shared with the Audi Rs5, while the 3.0 in the base Panamera is shared with Audi's S4 and S5.
I absolutely love the color.
Concise review, with everything you need, and nothing you don't. 👍
Subscribed, great review and pronunciation :)
When getting the correct driving position, lean back so that shoulders touches seat. Then hold your arms straight forward, and your wrists should be on top of stearing wheel. Nice review of a great looking Porsche :)
Vs Bentley Continental GT? Please do a comparison
it would have been nice if they added a picture of the normal and the executive model, just to get a look at the difference in shape after increasing the wheel base.
Stunning, stunning car.
I want this car it's fantastic
A remarkable review
Hearing fellow British accents on CZcams is so refreshing
You didn't mention the awesome air vents that open and close :(
It's a cool concept but it is rather unnecessary. I would imagine that it won't be a good feeling when one of the electric motors fails, although it is a Porsche, so it's not likely to happen.
Seems like this feature passed on from the Phaeton
Nice presentation about a handsome legend..
I got the BMW M Town ad, that was better than the review itself
Great review thanks. Quality picture resolution.
Good review. You sound and construct sentences like Quentin Wilson. It would be great to see rear space with front seats in a normal driving position though.
Love his accent ❤️
I really want this because it’s the power of a Nissan GT-R with luxury of Porsche it literally incredible
I was away when this channel had 40k subs, came back and... boom. 405k
interior looks fantastic, after a couple of years those gadgets are known to have issues..
The front looks like a corvette, and the back a 911. Wow, these two names are 2 Americans things that will never be forgotten
I would call this car more luxurious than sporty I mean come on look how practical and high-tech this car is.
Could the interior be a hint for the next generation 911? ;)
Don't know much about the 911, but you can look forward to this being a hint at the next gen cayenne.
Mikael Soltaniha As much as I would like it to, I don't think so. This is mainly because this interior is too, perhaps, luxurious, and the 911 is the king of sports, and this interior doesn't really fit a 911, but maybe the bigger screen and the touch buttons will be there, in a different look.
Nice review! Subscribed! Do all the new Porsche's !
Beautiful Car!
Hi Andrew Rossiter.... of course you don't agree.. if you regard £10K depreciation fine, on a second hand car which cost considerably less than £113K, then that is fine. A two year old Panamera costing £113K will have a trade value of £72K after 2 years, hence my comment. This percentage residual is better than most similar cars and far better than say a top spec Range Rover. I certainlly would not disrespect your choice of what is clearly a brilliant car.
awesome review
"Running costs of a medium sized family car". Presumably you are referring to the fuel and the road tax. These are an astonishingly small part of the the costs of a car. When newish this car will depreciate as much as ordinary folks salaries. When older the parts and services will be shockingly expensive...
I dont agree. I've had a Panamera 4S for 4 years now (2010 car). Its been fine - just keep the warranty going each year and everything is covered. I've not had any large bills. Depreciation has been under 10k per year - I dont think thats too bad given the car. It also still looks as good as new inside and out - the build quality is awesome.
Not really- compared to most other similar cars around this price point, the Panamera will depreciate a lot less. Porsche have extremely good residuals across their range, and the servicing is really not that expensive considering the price point of the car.
Quinton Wilson is aging well :-)
This is deffo my dream car by miles
Love the Panamera
i liked the normal buttons on the center console on the older model more.
Also why is the panamera S a v6 :(
Good presentation.
how is the night vision a 'good' safety feature if you need to look away from the road and down to the screen?
I love his reviews
A car that is marketed for the masses. Back seat, automatic, trunk. Yes a 4 door station wagon with a porsche badge. If you need something a little higher there is always the front wheel drive bmw suv.
5:10 Really Porsche? On such an expensive car, you don't include buttons in the trunk to drop the seats down, you still have to climb through the back doors? Or even just a manual latch that you can find in ANY estate/station car?
was the car remarkable?