Preparing Walls For Plastering #2 (STOP BEADS, CURVED CEILINGS, BONDING, PLASTERING)
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In today's video I'm going to show you how to prepare your walls for plastering. This is in my opinion the most important stage of plastering!
the only way you can get a smooth, flat finish in plastering is if your walls are perfectly prepared. That's the only way. I'm going to show you:
- When and how to use British Gypsum Bonding
- How to use Stop Beads
- How to prepare for curved ceilings
- How to deal with tapered boards
- The big use of Strepsils in plastering ;)
This video is s big one for anyone who deals with plastering.
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Firstly, another nicely done video, full of handy little tips, well done Blaine. Secondly, you are 100% right about preparation and just how important it really is, any tradesman who has pride in his work would tell you the same. I've just finished a loft job myself which was a nightmare, probably the worst I've ever come across, made me laugh when I saw it and cry when I was doing it. The plaster boards looked like they had been cut with a shovel, loads of bits and pieces, weird angles and shapes where ever you looked and boards of mixed thicknesses. I think that without a lot preparation that type of job could not be done to any decent standard of finish. I worked with an old boy about 30 years ago and he always said, plastering is all about what you can get over and leave a good finish and not how quickly you can do it, that's what will always keep you in work ... how right he was. Keep up the good work mate, all the best Mick
Thank you mate. I really appreciate that! Yeah I do believe that any good finish starts with correct preperation! You can't always get the perfect finish just using Multi Finish! Great hearing from you and thanks again for the support. Cheers 👍
True craftsman at work.. We had work done on our house and they were absolute cowboys. You help restore faith in tradesmen!
Thanks mate and sorry to hear about your experience. Hope it goes well next time and thanks again for the support 👍
Yes! A new Blaine vid = a happy me!
Cheers pal 👍
Cheers Blaine a very informative video. Hope you feel better soon. Dave
Cheers mate, I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
A top video, mate as always. Hope you feel better soon.
Cheers mate, I really appreciate that!
That helped alot, Cheers 🍻 dude
Great video for prep work , thanks mate.
Thanks mate. I really appreciate that!
I have some funny angles which id already beaded. So seems trick is bonding coat then bead. Great video. Although ill never plaster myself and get someone else to do it i still enjoyed the video
Like your channel mate ,think your clear and informative on your trade 👍
Thanks mate I really appreciate that! Cheers 👍
Working through a stinking cold! A true self employed grafter, no sick pay for us suckers! Great video mate keep em coming! You’re helping rid the world of ‘cowboys’ by showing them how it’s done properly!
Haha yeah we have to crack on mate! Thank you for the support my friend and thanks for watching. It means a lot 👍
Yes, a great video shows how to approach a tricky plastering job. I love watching videos like this as you learn something every time. I am a plumber but I do renovation work on my own property so I like to learn to be able to do as many jobs for myself as I can. Over the years I have got quite good at plastering but I still like to watch videos like this to learn new tricks. I'd rather watch these than the TV ! Plastering is quite rewarding to do, always nice to get a nice smooth finish.
Top job! I’d definitely have my radio on
Cheers pal and yes...I usually do but the flu was crippling me 🤣
really useful video! Take care of yourself.
Cheers mate, you too!
Love seeing the technical bits, just subcribed👍🏻
What stop bead would you use for external bay radius thats rendered
, obviously curved. Would you use a plastic bead? Are they flexible? Thank you.
Top man, nice work👍
Cheers matey!
Brilliant vid!
Cheers mate!
Great video buddy, the joys of other doing the boarding for you. Be great to see the finished job with all the angles
Thanks Mike I really appreciate that pal! I'll try and get one sorted - hope you're plastering is going well and it's great hearing from you 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners im on to my 2nd plastering job. I have a complete room to plaster including over boarding a ceiling ready for a skim coat. I will give you an update later this week with how it went. 👍🏼
Cool mate. I look forward to it pal 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners ive just been recapping on your other vid on sticking angle beads on to existing window reveals. 👍🏼
Nice video mate nice to see the prep 👍
Cheers mate - thank you for watching 👍
It's always interesting and really good 😄
Cheers mate!
Am going to be plastering a curved corner. Any tips or suggestions to get the job done? Thank you C
Brill Blaine does it again, love your vids bud.
Thank you mate I really appreciate that! It means a lot pal 👍
Thanks a million for uploading your videos, extremely helpful. If I'm putting a first coat onto a block wall, should I use BondingCoat or HardWall? Thanks.
Hi mate! It's always Hardwall for high suction background like blocks and brickd and BG Bonding for medium to low suction backgrounds like pasteboard and existing plaster. Hope this helps matey 👍
I was going to ask you about is it just me wasting time smoothing off the walls or does a professional like yourself do that too. But you covered that in this video very well. My only question is you used bonding to do that I have been using British gypsum joint filling (witch I thought was the right product) why do you use bonding over joint filler?
Excellent video Ba!! , So you say scrim the board for bonding plaster, my question is if you scrim the board for the bonding do you scrim again for the plaster because now I have a wall that has bonding on it and a wall that doesn't ,so if you can imagine two plasterboard walls and scrim in the corner and ceiling one wall with bonding on it so if you're looking at it on the left wall you have plasyerboard and half the scrim showing and the back wall the scrim is under the bonding. So when I plaster both walls you have left wall plasterboard scrim then plaster, on the back wall you have plasyerboard scrim bonding no scrim plaster. I hope I have explained it ok???
Can you please do a video on plastering preparation for walls after thick wallpaper removal, plus paint on top of paint, on top of paint by any chance? (aka OLD walls) lol. thinking of doing mine myself but the walls are an absolute state and i definitely don't want to do anything wrong. it seems my ceilings were papered after newi-sh plasterboards were put up. (grrrr) Which makes no sense to me. I can already tell that sanding is pointless. I've also already tried sanding then. (definitely pointless) HELP!! lmao.. Advice please. (subscribed and liked a few of your videos already)
Hi blaine avid follower and on your course currently one question once bonded out how long before plaster can go on and if the difference was not that bad could you get away a magic mix for first coat and then second coat normal multi.
Great video again mate. Can you use hard wall on grounds floor external wall. As bounding might absorb moisture
I'd use Hardwall on external brickwork/ masonry backgrounds but not on plasterboard mate 👍
Hi Blaine I’ve just recently started my own business and one thing I’m not sure off doing is pricing I know how to measure up and I usually say one 25 kg bag of multi finish of 2 coats is 5 m2 but dont know what to charge on the square meter ? I’m currently using the big,medium, small room format to price usually settling on the lower end of the price, is this correct, mate any tips on pricing per square meter on finish, bonding and render would be very much appreciated, thanks again
What staples do you use in your staple gun please ? Mines been hit and miss
Has anyone mentioned the depth of the stop bead, do you use 3mm in this circumstance, finding what you say invaluable thank you
Great job. Quick question : Do you need to use stainless steel staples? Thinking about rust stains if you get a bit of dampness in the room over the years.
Hi mate. I'm sure they are stainless steel anyway pal 👍
Don't use stainless with galvanised beads it will rust electro static action
Hi mate, would you let this go off over night and then PVA and 2 coat the next day or do you need to score it (then PVA)? Cheers
Hi mate! You don't need to wait over night - you can PVA as soon as the Bondings set. Just make sure you plaster onto the Bonding when it's solid because it can sometimes move under the Multi Finish if it's still soft. That's a nightmare ha!
Great work as usual Blaine! Tapered board, tape, fill with thistlebond and skim or butt joint board with skrim and skim? Which one do you prefer if boarding up?
@@humpy151065 I suppose. The additional layer of thistle might make for less chance of cracking. Extra work but may make for a more robust joint.
I always use but joints mate - I always try to avoid tapered joints because it just makes life a bit easier. Tapered joints are only designed for tape and fill!
@@PlasteringForBeginners cheers mate. I guess this diyer picked up the wrong stuff!
Stop beads are basically half a corner bead but 3 times the price at local shops like, wickes, B&Q, selco etc
nice and early today , yea its surprising how a couple of mm out here and there gets amplified once you get plaster on it and stand back , good vid mate .
atb simon
It's true mate! The extra mm makes a missive difference! Thanks for watching pal 👍
Great vid mate. Do you own both types of speed skim? Want to buy one but not sure which one. Theres a metal blade and just plastic version
Stick with the plastic one. the metal one is for finishing - I tried one, and it wasn't great. Plastic blade is great for flattening tho.
I recommend both but as Will said I think the plastic is the better one or of the 2. However, once you get used to using the Stainless steel Speedskim its deadly!
Hi pal love your vids 👍
Quick question regarding the ox speedskim with pole+bracket ..ever used them ? Now my question is are these poles and brackets interchangeable with say the nela or refina speedskims ?
No mate - each company has there own set up. Nothing is interchangable unfortunately. That would be nice though wouldn't it 😉
@@PlasteringForBeginners 😂 maybe i should've researched a bit better 🙈 things have changed a bit since i was in this game, great vids pal love it 🍻
Hey do you have many videos showing the use of stop beads. Can't find much on you tube .
There's stop beads in this video matey. You use them if you have an angle more or less than 90 degrees 👍
@Plastering for Beginners Can you use stop beads for unusually angled corners too? had a job helping someone and corner was like 135 degree angle or would you just try to splay a corner bead?
Yeah I'd use stop beads for the same situationn pal - its better than trying to form corner beads 👍
Hi Blaine, Can you tell me how to stop getting tiger stripes in by walls in one of you Q&A sessions? cheers Duncan
I'll look into it pal! Cheers 👍
Duncan H it’s often caused by uneven first coat and top coat is to thin
Great video mate love to see picture of this one finished if you have any post in facebook page or link, keep vids coming brilliant fella
Thanks mate - I really appreciate that and I'll try get one sorted! Cheers pal hope you're plastering is going well 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners that would be brilliant and yeh few more exams tomorrow so fingers crossed but loving the hands on side added bonus is having your vids for tips and tricks has boosted my hand skills by loads cheers fella
Do you ever trowel up your bonding. I find it’s easier to work with when you start skimming
Yeah I do pal. I try and get it as smooth as I can 👍
Whats the max depth (thickness) you can do with multifinish before using bonding?
5mm mate.
@@russfreeman3039 Thanks Russ
If the walls are flat, can you plaster straight over scrim tape? You don't have to add bonding over them first before plastering?
Yeah mate. Just plaster directly over it - that's how its done my friend!
Question for anyone. Do you use scrim tape on all joints of plasterboard and over screws? Can scrim tape be plastered over directly.
You don't have to scrim the screws...just the tape pal! And you can plaster over it 👍
I've just build a soundproof wall in my bedroom, it was either that or kill the neighbours :) - The plasterboards had to fitted to metal furring bars as the wall is decoupled so I have screws running right through the middle of the boards. I don't want the screws to pop the plaster so do I scrim tape over them and then skim, Or is there a way to just fill the screw holes?
Haha sounds like you have some interesting neighbours ha! Yes, you can scrim tape which should help keep them in place...but it still might pop. It won't harm you to still scrim tape it though pal 👍
Hi did you scrim the step down where u put stop beads
Yeah I did pal 👍
Can you overlap scrim tape, always here DONT overlap scrim tape. But how else are you to join where more than 2 boards meet?
Yeah...it's fine to overlap scrim tape - it's not a problem matey! Don't worry about it.
Hi could you show job when finished be good to see👍
I'll try and get some pics pal!
Hi mate where your from trying to place s the accent ? Yorkshire? Great video
Hi mate. I'm originally from Manchester but I live in Hastings now pal 👍
Do you plaster onto the bonding as its firming up or do you wait for it to dry fully ?
Am AM either way I suppose if it drys PVA it first
I'd avoid plastering if it's not completely dry - it can sometimes move under your finish cost if it's not solid. This can cause a bit of a mess to be honest so always make sure it's hard to the touch pal 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners thanks mate
Not really the chippies fault, more the boarders to be fair. Could have double boarded that section to bring it out. But whenever you have a valley rafter they normally extend past your common rafters like that.
I understand why you're building out uneven corners & curves, but why are you filling the taper edge joints with bonding? Surely that's creating potential problems with the skim coat, as those areas dry out quicker than the plasterboard backed areas?
Great tips mate! Have to try stapling beads in. Notice you don't tape over board screw heads, I find it reduces head popping? Keep the videos coming no matter how long we've been doing this we can always learn new tricks! Cheers Blaine
I've never done it pal - I've never had any issues yet but I'm sure it had it's uses! It's better to be safer I suppose!
Mainly a problem on ceilings when the borders used nails. Screws don't seem to be as bad but have seen it. Guess it's just habit now! Cheers mate.
Good point pal - that fits make sense and I suppose it's good practice. Good on you matey 👍
Had to put a length of stop bead up on my own today on a ceiling over 3m! that was not enjoyable lol have you seen people stick bead with mastics think it must be gripfill I’ve not done it myself but I’d plastered over people that have and it leaves a dark stain that shows through the plaster?
Haha yeah it can be tricky sometimes pal! I know people who do it but I've never used Gripfill - it's a bit too messy for me. I prefer no nails or something that's not as thick!
Wen I started we called it carlight bonding
Carlite is still sold all over the Island of Ireland, made by the same company that makes Thistle. Probably exactly the same product these days.
Fail to prepare,prepare to fail was what I was taught 😉
That's the one!!
Off the subject but do you think magnesium hawks are worth their money? I've gone through 3 MT aluminium hawks in 18 months!
Scott Jacques I’ve recently gone plastic mate and I rate it plus it was cheap took station
@@Zoltar1811 I've used plastic before aswell mate, I snapped 2 of them and went to aluminium. Now I'm thinking magy might be the best for me
How are you snapping Ali hawks? Mine have lasted 15 years......
@@billyt9921 I said I used plastic before and snapped 2 of them, then moved to aluminium, didn't snap the aluminium ones, they just bend and twist
@@scott2386 ahh right...... misunderstood yer. I've never tried a plastic hawk, so cant comment. The 2 Ragni alu ones ive got are 15 year old and going strong. Ones slightly warped, but I've never found it to be an issue.
Mesh beads are better than stop beads i find on angles
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Would never use bonding to put a round in to much suction much sooner use dry wall
Fair enough pal
🤔🤔🤔 amazing eh !!!!
Taped edge boards do not need bonding out.
I had some left over pal so I used it 👍
ad have a nervous breakdown
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Missed taping stop bead also if your good enough you have no need to use bonding get it all with skim clearly not skilled enough 😂
You sick to your way of doing it mate - it's nothing to do with skill. I just prefer to prep correctly before I start Plastering which is far more effective than rushing a job and hoping you'll get it with Multi Finish. If anything you just sound like a cowboy but each to their own 👍
Must have all the time in the world 🤣I couldn’t b bothered,, plasterboarding 👎 couldn’t get it tight so bond it 😭😭😭😭
Plastering For Beginners your videos show your the real cowboy 😂😂