Top 5 Tools You Should NEVER Buy Used & Some You Should!
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- Top 5 Tools You Should NEVER Buy Used & Some You Should!
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I agree with you on all of this.
And so many used tools have something missing. Like table saws often missing miter Guage, rip fence, and/or blade guard. Wood lathes are another thing that are often missing vital pieces when sold used.
knobs.
It's always threaded knobs missing
Have a used miter saw in mind? Well good luck because the bevel knob is gonna be missing and no local hardware store is _ever_ going to have a comparable lag bolt with compatible threads to replace it with.
Plunge router? Good luck with that, the metal piston thingies are machined SO EXACTLY that even just a spec of rust or pitting means it won't actually plunge if you try it and they have to be replaced or restored and will still have ugly, sticky plunge action
The worst personally? A bandsaw with the entire guide-bearing assembly missing ... back when I didn't know that bandsaws needed a guide bearing to work because it was my first bandsaw
On the table saw front I wouldn't allow a missing miter gauge to be a deal breaker. Adding an aftermarket miter gauge is one of the best upgrades you can make to a table saw.
Gotta support buying used power tools, so I can sell mine when I want to buy new tools!
Depends on how used and how old. I see a lot of wishful sellers on Craigslist with makita drills from the 70s-90s
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I like buying used gas equipment because it’s often easy to fix (carbs are always dirty with ethanol gas). The one i wouldn’t buy is a used pressure washer. The pumps go bad if they’ve been run dry and replacement pumps cost as much as the whole unit. I’ve had good luck with used generators, tillers and an ATV.
Commercial grade pressure washing pumps can be easily rebuilt. Typically check valves are all they need.
Older model riding lawn mowers! You can also get them for free and if you're good at small engine repair and/or diagnostics you can often run into a gem! Sometimes you can get a fairly new model of some of the major band names on the side of the street with a "free" sign because the owner has absolutely no idea why his stuff doesn't run anymore! Found one and replaced a carb and it was good to go!
@@ronwilliams329 A while back, a friend who knows that I fix and flip used outdoor equipment GAVE me an old (dark green) Craftsman 2 stage snowblower because it wouldn't start. After verifying that it had spark, I drained the old gas and cleaned the tank, pulled and cleaned the carb and spark plug then, put it all back together. I then poured about a quart of fresh gas in it and fired it right up. After a few adjustments to the belts, cables etc. I waited for the first snow storm to put it up for sale. That first snow was over a foot, heavy and wet. That same friend didn't have $600+ to spend on a new machine so, after a little bartering (and a test run), the Craftsman ended up back in his garage and a brand new 12 gauge shotgun ended up in my safe. Not bad for a couple bucks worth of gas and lubricants on a Saturday afternoon when I had nothing better to do.
@@MikeBrown-ii3pt That's the way to do it!
If it's not a smokin deal I normally will not buy used unless I know how it was used. There's too many issues with tools that are abused and neglected especially air compressors. I won't go after any large power tool that doesn't have the option of replacing the motor separate from the assembly. That's why I got my 80 year old Craftsman table saw from a friend for free. It's solid steel and the belt and motor can be replaced in about 15 minutes.
I would never buy a used tool unless it was one known to me by a friend or co worker. That said, a guy in my area was selling his dad's shop tools off. His dad died 20+ years ago and all this equipment had sat untouched for years, some never used. He had a brand new in box Porter cable router and plunge kit in the case and wanted 100.00 for it. What gave me pause was for that 100.00 he insisted I take the Delta table saw. He said the table saw was probably used twice and was used as a shelf even while his dad was still alive. These tools were both from 1999 and I took them and ran like a thief in the night for that hundo. I needed a new shop table saw anyway. It wasn't what I was going to buy, but it will certainly do and the router I keep in the work van now.
I agree to an extent. A lot of average people who buy tools should really just buy a new tool to make sure they get all the accessories and the warranty with it. However, I would advocate used for someone who wants to get a start into a trade. If someone wants to get into woodworking and doesn't have the budget for all new, I'd advise searching around for used. That's how I got my start, resold items for what I paid when I bought new ones as I found out what I needed/used most. Plenty of good used tools out there, just have to sift through all the junk out there. To me, it's a fun challenge finding a good tool for a great deal.
I got lucky with a used tiller that I bought 30 years ago. Most I spent on it was a few sets of belts. Starts on the second pull. Can't beat a vintage Brigs and Stratton. Lucky too with a free compressor that some ham handed person broke the pipe leading to the gauge. Fortunate that my dad taught me to be resourceful. Not everyone is so fortunate.
I’ve bought only, like new power tools (Milwaukee) from a seller that buys those pallets. I’ve had zero issues with any, except a battery & they took that battery and swapped it for another when i told them. Dont knock the resellers who are buying returns/damaged product. I work for Fedex Freight and we have a shit ton of pallets from Milwaukee that get refused from stores because the case is scratched or the box is smashed plastic for battery’s cracked etc. If it isn’t shelf material it’ll get refused. Cant speak for the other companies
I have been buying battery power tools with bad batteries and installing good newer cells. This not only makes the pack work but brings it to a higher amp/hr rating . I paid $125 for Rigid with three 3 ah/hr rated packs 1 of the two packs work, 2 skill saws well used but works fine, sawzall, drill and impact. Fixed all the tools up and now all of the 3 battery packs have 5 amp/hr capacity . I have $150 for everything working. I have a Rigid to Ryobi battery converter and have all the batteries I need. Now I have an extra set for the friend that needs to use a power tool!
Bear, I totally agree with your take on used cordless tools! Completely true! Junk or stolen in most cases.
Four things I strongly recommend…
Industrial band saw
Industrial planer
Industrial jointer
Industrial drum sander
I would only buy in good to excellent condition and no more than 70% of its new version. This means you will search a while, (maybe years) for that school closing, going out of bidness or estate sale, but they’re out there.
Ya know Jeff, now-a-days with so many people out there who have a moral compass that is very much askew, I would not buy ANYTHING used unless the individual I was buying from was a dear friend!
I disagree a little on generators, or gasoline powered things more generally. It's pretty common to find barely used items that don't start due to not being drained before storage. They cost almost nothing if they won't start and are often easy to fix.
I agree. I’ve spent $200 total on as $600 pressure washer and a $900 push mower. Both run great and have large or commercial use Engines.
It’s like deciding between a work truck, one is used 3/4ton Diesel truck, the other is a used 1/2 ton with a small v6.
Just make an educated decision. And you should be fine.
Don’t overpay in case you have to make some repairs.
An old friend gave us his 1970s Craftsman air compressor when he moved. He had not used it in years. The tank had about 50 pinholes in the bottom where it had rusted through. It was trash. The compressor was even shot. We saved the electric motor and the wheels.. the rest went to a metal sculptor for art projects
Brought an old Westinghouse 50 gallon tank air compressor with, get this, a 1/2 HP Electric motor. 220 volt and when first turned it on it pumped to 150 psi before kicking off. Made in early 60's. Must have been used for a factory machine that needed high pressure but low volume.
Thanks for this video and the info on compressors. I just drained my compressor that I bought 10 months ago and it had a lot of moisture coming out. Also noticed that there's a label that says to take our of service by 2031. Guess it only has a 10 year service life.
You have an excellent point. The compressor isn't the issue... tank corrosion (from inside, where you can't see it) is the real issue.
Nice video bear, I have bought many things used,. The thing is you take a chance or risk when buying anything used ,car, boat, appliances, tools, if you do it right , bring a friend with you who know what you are doing be okay. If you don't know or not sure then spend the money and buy it new...
So what I gathered was buy new so the Bear can scoop up all the cool vintage tools. Not so fast Bear. LOL Only thing I will add is you really learn a lot about your tool when you buy it used and you calibrate it to your liking. However not everyone will want to dig paws deep on a table saw. I get both sides. And YES a riving knife is a MUST unless you hate your organs. Thanks as always
As a new wood worker people were constantly telling me to buy a used table saw. But I looked for months and everything was either old junk or was a newer piece that was valued correctly, but still only $100-300 less than retail. Not a bad deal, but it's a lot to risk for something over $500 that doesn't come with a warranty and you don't know the exact condition of.
Eventually I just sold my first born to get the Sawstop Jobsite saw. No regrets.
Some people are into repairing used tools but there's the cost to consider. I bought a used miter saw for $50 that basically worked but had some issues that could only be addressed by replacement parts. By the time I got done I was into it for $125 that could almost have paid for a new saw of similar features and quality. Live and learn. That said, if someone offered me an old table saw for next to nothing I'd probably accept with the intent of fixing it up and flipping it. Problem now is that everyone lists their used tools as "like new" or "used only once" and expect 90% back on what they paid for it. And there's such a demand these days that they often get it.
I buy used wood furniture, and cars. Most everything else, I like new.
I bought a used corded DeWalt SDS max for $75 that included a case and a few bits. The beast was old but it’s still a beast.
Totally agree on not buying tools that might be stolen. Crazy to reward those who will be coming for your stuff next.
Bro. even the ones at the store might be stolen. Why do you think Milwaukee doesn't do business with lowes anymore? if you're not able to give the police a heads up and get the thieves canned, then you're not actually helping by taking what you think is the high road.
16:26 that looks like the same Coleman Cable extension I have. Don't remember how much it cost back in 2003, $99 or $129.
I agree with the bear, but it's your money. Also very risky with some items such as air compressors may blow up, generators will electrocute you, your gear. Extension cords, can also catch on fire along with any combustibles next to it.
3:00 Hey I literally got that drill off craigs list for free the other day listed in the "tools" section.... Batteries even still hold a charge. Never hurts to look
Love the channel Bear ... this is right on the money. I had to chuckle when I saw the Porter-Cable drill ... I have that exact drill which I bought new more years ago than I can remember. Not only would I not attempt to sell it ... if one of my son's wanted it I'd throw it in the trash and buy them a new one.
I've got an old 7.2v Makita drill (metal case, charger, everything) that I have held on to... just because it's "ancient technology". Thought about rebuilding the batteries as a project.
Agree on not buying a used table saw. Too many potential problems. The motor could give out and those aren't cheap. The biggest headache IMO would be the fence, whether it's straight, can be straightened, etc. We don't exactly buy these things just to push wood through and hope for the best. As I said earlier if someone offered me one at next to nothing I'd probably take it as a flip project, but not to keep.
I had a Ryobi BT3000 in great shape. Gave the saw away and kept the stand underneath. Couldn't sell it, but the stand will be repurposed for a osc sander and jointer stand.
that Locking plyer is a vice grip I have one just like it!! I think that they are quite old. I bought mine at a yard sale.
I agree on the cordless power tools. I had a gf that her mom would always buy a used electric trimmer. They usually didn't work.
12:20 been having this conversation with my mom. Dad bought a (used) air compressor over 30 years ago - to be fair, barely used when he got it - and we've had it in our shop ever since. A couple of weeks ago, the bottom of the tank finally got a pinhole rust leak in it (and yes, we drained it and maintained it, but 30 years is 30 years... service life used to be 20 years, per ASME, I worked in the boiler industry with pressure vessels) and her first statement was, "well, just go find a used tank..." yeah - 2 things with that, Ma... 1 - finding a good used tank everyone thinks they got gold, and 2 - look at those pictures above, we can end up with the same thing again...
Haven't ordered it yet, but am going to be getting a new unit shortly - meanwhile, she's got a $50 Harbor Freight unit there to air up her tires, and we're not using the air tools.
It used to be that people sold used stuff cheap. So much used stuff now is way too expensive to be worth it. If you find a good deal though, it’s really worth it.
A lot of old woodworking hand tools have gone up dramatically in price in recent years (hand planes, chisels, hand saws, etc.). A lot of that is driven by the internet but it’s also because nowadays so much of what is made is just crap - so the only alternative is spending a lot on a premium brand or restoring a vintage tool.
Mi-T-M (pronounced "mighty m") is a commercial brand. The only thing I have seen with that name on it is a pressure washer. They are very similar in price and quality as Hotsy. They make commercial hot and cold water pressure washers I know for a fact.
I bought a ridgid brushless impact driver, and a brushed drill/driver and a 1.5aH battery AND a gen5x charger for.... 45 bucks! They all work great and i've used them both weekly for a long time. I disagree with the used powertools comment.
I feel as though, relatively speaking, tools are so cheap now (thanks, Bear!) and those tools that are "expensive" are tools that require precision, safety considerations, or some expertise in tuning that you wouldn't want to buy them used anyway -- especially when you consider the benefit of a warranty. That's not to say that I eschew from buying used tools, just that I don't crawl garage sales and craigslist just to buy tools anymore. I think aside from static tools like shovels, clamps, lights, etc. or getting something as a backup or a throw around tool, it just makes sense to buy new.
Cordless tools I’ll definitely agree 99% of the time no way.
Table saws most of the time no go, except some high end ones, sometimes. The same applies to other stationary power tools.
Right now people are generally over pricing most used equipment.
Radial arm saws are deal now, they can be finicky or set up if you have the space they can out perform any miter saw
I have a good friend that bought an entire semi truck load of returns from Lowes. He actually tested everything before he sold them. Only about a pallet and a half was actually bad product.
I’ve sold a few tools but I got them in the bundle deals and when I sell them I will show you the receipt
Harbor freight has more of a warranty then buying used I have bought thousands of things used private sells never have a warranty you buy it as is and once the money passes hands its your problem and yours there is never a warranty from private sales... that's why dealerships have a clause for used cars if it has a clause that says customer agrees to purchase as is then there not responsiblefor the problems unless you can prove they didn't inform you of all problems then it falls under the lemon law act which you can force them to fix it like failed brakes after you leave the lot which lemon law act is first 500 miles or first month @14:22 great points red @TheDenOfTools
I agree people tend to think they can get 2 to 5 times if not more for there tools its is the sane when it comes to old vehicles and there parts people selling a shifter knob or assembly for 300 dollars higher then the dealer charged 25 plus years ago @5:28 to @5:38 amazing points Red some people just think there items are worth platinum and gold @TheDenOfTools
Like always there are always exceptions... But they are specific as you said. That Copelametic compressor, If you could talk them down to $250 or so would be a decent bargain, assuming that you will just have to replace the tank before actual use.
For buying anything used the more education you have and the more you know about it the better you can do on knowing if your getting a good or bad deal no matter If it's tools cordless or corded vintage or even vehicles or custom made wood items its all about knowing when to buy or bargain or not buy... @TheDenOfTools
I sold my 20 yr old Delta contractor saw, with extra cast iron wing, mobile base, unifence, outfeed table, and a closed in cabinet for dust collection, that I fabed, but without a riving knife, all for $400. I look at these new options coming out and am surprised by the price i got, and this is actually, the third time i had it up on Craigslist. I had it sold on Craigslist for 450, a year ago, but it took me a while to commit to a Sawstop. But while I had the saw for 20 years and kept the top pretty, I didn't do much else with it. It probably saw five years of hobby level use. But still, there's no way the purchaser could know that, and despite a pretty outfeed table and the other stuff, I am very surprised what people are willing to pay. An outfeed table is nothing to build. Closing in the stand and attaching a hose is not much of a thing. But people are willing to pay for ammenities.
The table saw shouldn’t be on here because your beef seems to mainly be with the price, the argument there should just be don’t overpay. I have a 60+ year old craftsman I got with a stand for $35 and I’d buy it again at that price or maybe a little more
I like ryobi stuff and have purchased several blue tools to go with my lithium batteries. I got the dust buster vac, circular and recip saws, and a flashlight in a bag with an old nicad battery for $50 which is about what you’d spend on each of those tools alone new
Friend of mine uses mostly used Ryobi and buys aftermarket lithium batteries. Cost is so cheap he has multiple backups in case something fails.
"You don't know how much life is left in that motor" (referring to the table saw motor). Well, they're induction motors. Unless you're physically abusing it (i.e. hitting it with a hammer or something), they'll last forever. Just an occasional cap may need to replaced, $15 part.
Also, nobody's cutting 4 and 6 inch hardwoods with a 3/4 hp $150 Craftsman table saw, so nothing to worry about there. Lastly, those MicroJig MJ splitters are made of stainless steel.
What I would give for a table saw of any kind. Scared to buy used but no way can I afford new. That’s why I love this channel. All the info
good comment on the writhing knife. best upgrade from the older saws.
Lmfao at @1:00 hope your well Red good to see you @TheDenOfTools
I buy a lot of my milwaukee stuff from a resale guy who buys damaged pallets. I was even able to warranty a battery with milwaukee recently.
I do buy made in USA Craftsman used tools. Both electric and hand tools. Not battery.
Mi-t-m actually makes pretty good pressure washer stuff, for what it's worth.
John deere uses their compressor/generator combos
Since Lowe's dropped Porter cable wouldn't be a good idea to buy in them tools used..
PC is moving over to Tractor Supply.
Definitely a good advise. I buy everything used. Just gotta know what to look for. Just buy something with low miles and complete.
Why would I buy a table saw (used OR new) when people are giving them away _for free_ all the time? Usually in running condition, just needing a bit of tuning up. Also free radial arm saws, those are as common as free kittens
I went into a pawn shop once to look at a gun. Saw a DeWalt drill in there...the thing was beat to H.E.double-hockey sticks and old as the hills and they wanted $129 for it, LOL (The gun turned out to fit that same description as well!).
That has always been my experience with pawnshops
"Pawnshop" is Polish for "the dumps" :D
One time in a hundred you get lucky, though... almost always I see that kind of crap when I go, but not long ago, I scored a set of Bosch 18V tools that had been used maybe 4 or 5 times, drill, driver, saw, and light, along with 2 batteries but no charger, for less than what the new driver would have cost me. I agree that normally I don't even look at used cordless anymore, but this time was worth it. He did make me a heck of a deal because no charger. Since I am in there every so often (enough he knows me) looking for old USA hand tools, I think he treated me extra nice, but even so... exception that makes the rule.
@@CaptainSeamus Gotta love deals like that!
I have to disagree with you on the power generators.
I recently got a very good deal on Facebook marketplace where I got an almost brand-new set of champion 2500 w generators @ 300. The only thing that was wrong with them is the carburettor was all gummed up and since northern tool is the warranty centre for champion they just cleaned at for: $30.
I think it's good to buy used tabel saws if you find the right deal I gave 200$ for a belt driven craftsman back last winter
I came to this conclusion , after buying a ryobi pressure washer on ebay recently for 60 dollars, it was described as in almost new condition, works perfectly, only to realize it had a faulty unloader valve , so it will cost me more than new to freight it back or replace it. New being 109 with the surface cleaner. Never me again.
I buy combo kits and keep the battery and sell the tool for a cheaper battery than normal
I try to buy all my makita tools used with a Box on a deal cuz you can get In store credit at home depot.and buy new tool. Never let anyone lowball your makita tools if you still got the box, still worth full price!$$$ 😉
I agree , Makita tools hold their value
Believe me when I tell you this, when you buy tools used and they have a legit looking box, you might end up getting a crap refurbished one or you been duped by getting the wrong model. This happen to a neighbor of mine where the tool was swapped. They must have bought a new one and swapped the inside with some cheap one found on Etsy or something….
You will be surprised of how often this happens . I have a habit now of always opening the box in front of the worker at the store to ensure no one swapped the tool with something old or a shoe or something.
What do u think of used fluke meters?
Great informative video Red as always Got to think about the batteries I think is the most important aspect @TheDenOfTools
Some of the stuff II see on EBay is listed for more money than Incan buy the same thing for new. I like to rebuild chainsaws and I see saws like the Stihl MS 250, listed for parts or repair for more money than I can buy the same saw, new, from my local Stihl dealer.
i buy cordless tools from pawn shops, i get to feel them, use them, my local shops check police reports and can get you a good deal if you know what to buy.
I have entire blue ryobi set I use them hard for over 5 years not one has missed a beat still going strong. Then I got 3-4 of green ones from police auction for like 10 bucks all work awesome lol
And you can use new batteries with the old blue tools
Jeff when ate Sunday nights coming back? It's about time for it to start snowing up there. It's time to nestle in build a fire in the fireplace & bring back Sunday night live!
I don't like buying used power tools since you don't know what you are getting no matter what the description says. At least with a new power tool you do get a somewhat warranty.
Bear, one of your main sponsors, who you feature almost every week, auctions off the same used tools you just said not to buy???
That was one of my thoughts while watching this video too.
Great video, can you do a video about should I buy other branded tools if I am not going for cordless. Ie I have a milwahee drill cordless but recently i find that other brands have great sales price on their corded one. Should i really be sticking to milwahee if I am not going for battery operated
I 100% agree.I will never buy used power tools, if I need a tool I'd rather have a new tool that way I know someone didn't beat it to hell and back I've seen a lot of guys treat their tools like trash being tossed around. Besides most of the people selling used tools are expecting way too much out of them. you got a $150 drill and the guy wants 120 for it,yeah no thanks I'll buy a brand new one for less than that when it goes on sale.
I'm not opposed to buying used tools.....my favorites are vintage made in USA hand tools. Pliers, adjustable wrenches (Crescent Tool Co. Jamestown NY.....Diamond Calk and Horseshoe Co. Duluth Minnesota.....12 inchers probably 70 to 80 years old...movable jaw tighter that any new one sold today...$1.00 each at a yard sale!!!!!) , files, pliers, pipe wrenches, sockets, wrenches. Most used screwdrivers are clapped out. Bought a used Makita corded 3/8 variable speed drill 20 years ago for 50 cents (the seller didn't know the little black knob on the trigger that limits top speed will also go down to no speed LOL) and 20 years later it's still going strong. Recently got an almost unused Milwaukee 7 and 1/2 inch corded sidewinder saw, in a factory blow mold case, new carbide blade, $50.00 at a Hospice Thrift store. Of course I tested it, but they actually will let you return it within a week if no workie.
Is this the same Bear that tells us about all the great deals on the Police auction tools? Are those not used? Or do those not fall on the same category?
And aren't the ones I really suggest the corded and the hand tools?
@@denoftools yeah, but how often do we have a chance to give you shit? Lol
The ridgid table saw, we threw one of those away at my old job. One of the carpenters took it out of the dumpster and sold it on craigslist. Despite knowing it had problems, he sold it for a couple hundred dollars then came to work and bragged about it...
Vintage handtool woodworking tools, if in decent shape, is something worth buying if you could find decently priced ones. Quite often much cheaper than a new one.
good video.
I hope you get back to your Sunday Live show soon
A BIG no on used power tools but a BIGGER yes to factory reconditioned or new "blemished" from a reputable supplier.
Depends on what you want in a table saw. I bought my Jet 3hp saw for $1000. You can't get close to that saw new for that price
My favorite is people on FB market selling US general 4 drawer for 300$. Because they built it. Hahahaha or the Pittsburgh pro click torque for 50$. Hahaha.
The things to buy used: hand tools.
Almost all of my files and pliers are used
I don't think I've ever bought a used tool that didn't have something funky with it functionally or in terms of power or battery life, etc. I only buy dirt cheap used stuff, though. When it breaks or is insufficient, I'll buy a new version. I've had the worst luck with modern cordless tools and batteries, best luck with classic old tools made in the USA when we produced great stuff. Often they just need a little refurbishing and then they'll be solid. Forever, apparently.
I bought 2 Craftsman skil saws and a Craftsman saws all, all 19.2 volt cordless the seller did not want to buy replacement batteries. I had a 19.2 Craftsman Drill and a couple batteries. I tried all three of these saws and they worked perfectly. I don’t think that $15 was a bad deal!
I have learned how to recharge dead batteries by watching CZcams videos. I have used the saws on several projects without any issues.
I will not buy or use any Mikita tools. I was in the ceiling area of a casino and there was a pin hole water leak. I was in the totally dark area with a Mikita flashlight using it to spot the spray from the leak. All of a sudden my flashlight decided not to work, while trying to fix it in total darkness I stepped off the narrow walkway and went through the ceiling and landed flat on my back in the casino hallway. I ended up being taken by ambulance to hospital and treated and put into bed for 2 months. I found out why everyone of the other employees in our department had bought Mag Lights and refused to use anything Mikita.
I agree with the cordless used tool...I would stay away.
Old blue Ryobis use the same batteries as the new ones. You can get them for nothing, I find them at my local thrift store from time to time.
I bought a Honda generator 4 $20.00 dollars & it was a EX 650 & had 2 get it repaired 4 $180.00 dollars
19:36 Whaaat! Icon screwdriver set for $70?? Brand new they’re $50!!!
Idk man. Sometimes, you take a gamble and it pays off. The old blue ryobi tool set you showed, i bought a used set just like it for my first power too set. I still have them almost 15 years later. Granted, ive purchased a lot more tools over the years and i dont use them anymore. But i used them very heavily the first year in a fabrication. And the guy i got them from, beat them up too.
You were totally right and sometimes you take a gamble and it really pays off but in the long run if only one in 10 or bad that usually eats up any of the cost savings that you really got
I’m not disagreeing with any of this. I was lucky and came across a Grizzly Contractor saw that was older, but didn’t require any tuning and was still in great shape for $400 in the middle of no where from an older gentleman who just didn’t spend time in the shop anymore and was selling off some of larger items. Thing runs like a top. Again, I got super lucky though.
Van is just one of the many weirdly named cities here in east Texas
Great topic bear
Now with these battery shops popping up I wouldn’t be afraid to buy a used cordless drill. Don’t pay retail, but we ain’t getting the saws for free like CZcamsrs do either. Most of us work out of a shed, or even on the porch!
I made 1 from an old wooden coat hanger
never buy a used kango usually pasted till they die but cordless tools at a reasonable price is fine if brushed personally
It's gettin near time to hibernate but need a log splitter review first.
I live in central east Texas I can buy decent used table saw and other tools all day for cheap
I also got an old drill press 4 $12.50
Sold one of those dremmel scroll saws for 75 bucks in that kind of condition I paid 5 lol
Don't agree to much with the generator, all mine I've bought second hand. The first, a big Hyundai non runner, got it cheap on ebay, 240 quid, I got it home, drained stale fuel, put new fuel in and away it went second pull, ten years on it still works fine. Last one ( just run in this week end) honda site generator in a cage. 50 quid, non runner from the factory. They sell off as broken, valve was stuck in engine.. freed off easily and started 2nd pull. Just never buy no output. Non runner if you know engines is fine.
Hey, how about a "gently used" military surplus Onan generator! Want to guess???
I LOVE stolen tools! Best deal around! 😎
BTW I return things that work and sometimes not even opened to Amazon all the time.