The Most Seaworthy Small Sailboats - Bristol Channel Cutter - Ep 278

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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
  • Have you seen the One Simple Question sailboat movie? Ever heard of the Bristol Channel Cutter? Lin and Larry Pardy had this as their first circumnavigation sailboat. Interested in a world travelling sailboat? Want to know the history of Bristol Channel Pilot Cutters? This week we explore the sailboat made to pilot the Bristol Channel in Great Britain. We look at the history of tall ship piloting in England and how this little sailboat was fast, agile, and extremely seaworthy not just for that job but also, to sail around the world many circumnavigating many times as what might be, the most seaworthy small sailboat ever made.
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Komentáře • 155

  • @teresacarey2215
    @teresacarey2215 Před měsícem +31

    Hey, Lady K Sailing, thanks so much for the shout-out!! We're glad you like the movie. And it brought back great memories to see clips of it and pictures of BCCs. Although, I still say the Nor'Sea is better! ;-)

    • @LadyKSailing
      @LadyKSailing  Před měsícem +4

      Wow! Thank you for watching!

    • @Sailor7sea89
      @Sailor7sea89 Před měsícem +3

      where can i watch your movie maa'm

    • @ChasingFreedom8
      @ChasingFreedom8 Před měsícem +3

      How can we watch the film?

    • @destrollip506
      @destrollip506 Před měsícem

      Feature Film: One Simple QUESTion
      A journey in a small sailboat to find a record-breaking iceberg

    • @Rsapper37
      @Rsapper37 Před 21 dnem

      Seriously? Because BCC is a bit out of my price range. But I found a Nor'sea that's reasonable...and closer. Not a big fan of bow either.

  • @cmurph321
    @cmurph321 Před měsícem +29

    It's the boatiest looking boat that ever boated. I love them.

  • @dherman0001
    @dherman0001 Před měsícem +5

    The kind of boat that puts a smile on your face when you see it.

  • @sjd9214
    @sjd9214 Před měsícem +7

    I built an William Atkins channel cutter and sailed her from Vancouver, Canada to Mombasa, Kenya, crossing the Pacific and the Indian Ocean. Incredibly seaworthy boats, and champions of heaving to. Journey took me 5 years.

  • @newfiescreech7328
    @newfiescreech7328 Před měsícem +15

    A movie recommendation and a review of a small seaworthy boat! My kind of video!

  • @stevevics
    @stevevics Před měsícem +4

    I learned how to sail on the Bristol Channel and Severn estuary. It certainly made seamanship a high priority. Love Bristol Channel cutters and pitot cutters. Thanks Lady K Sailing

  • @johnnyhag675
    @johnnyhag675 Před měsícem +10

    It is Theresa's fault that I became addicted to sailing channels. She sailed a Nor'Sea 27 solo and made some incredible videos years ago. Met her husband, who also sailed his own boat solo....the rest is history.

  • @markmurphy3739
    @markmurphy3739 Před měsícem +5

    One of the best channels on CZcams. I don't miss an episode.

  • @Mr_G_in_Alba
    @Mr_G_in_Alba Před měsícem +16

    Norwegian Colin Archer pilot boats as an alternative, at a fraction of the prices being quoted for the Bristol Cutter 👍

    • @Westsail
      @Westsail Před měsícem +3

      That is why I chose a Westsail 32. 👍👍

  • @cellobob2358
    @cellobob2358 Před měsícem +7

    My wife and are taking a sailing class in Maine at Teresa and Ben's school, Morse Alpha Expeditions. We're excited about it!

  • @mrgearha7188
    @mrgearha7188 Před 25 dny +1

    Good job. Your summary is accurate. I had my BCC built by Sam Morse Co back in 1995. I still have her. She will definitely outlive me.

  • @svsalserenity4375
    @svsalserenity4375 Před měsícem +9

    Great Video as usual. You should do a whole series on great sea boats and what makes one .

  • @marinejoiner2388
    @marinejoiner2388 Před měsícem +12

    Nice Video. What about a review of the Cape George 36? Same boat used by Kirsten in the Golden Globe. Fast and solid.

  • @skyedivers
    @skyedivers Před měsícem +3

    Hi Tim, I love your channel and I love all of your episodes. But this is easily one of my favorites. It's exceptionally good. Great job. Well done. Keep on rocking it

  • @ICFUBAR
    @ICFUBAR Před 28 dny +1

    The Pardys, Larry and Lin, are sailing legends and did so without a motor, using a long sweep instead. Spent an evening listening to Larry speak on sailing and life. Sadly Larry is gone now. Don't know if Lin is still with us. Anyway great review of a truly great sailboat design.

  • @robertgold2643
    @robertgold2643 Před měsícem +3

    Sailing Artha’s doing a smashing job refitting one of these on her own down in the islands for anyone wanting to see all the ins and outs of a BTC. 😉

  • @user-fe1jg3gs8l
    @user-fe1jg3gs8l Před měsícem +3

    Very reassuring this design is robust and up to the task of blue water ocean sailing ⛵️.thanks for the review. I’m adding this one to my list of possible boats suitable for ocean cruising.

  • @sailingmrnice
    @sailingmrnice Před měsícem +1

    I grew up on the Bristol Channel. Born in Barry we had the second highest tide in the world. It's where we learned to sail!!

  • @MurkyDregs
    @MurkyDregs Před měsícem +2

    Ben & Theresa are awesome people. Ben basically taught me how to sail.

  • @noneomarxistactor2863
    @noneomarxistactor2863 Před 24 dny +2

    Westsail 32 is sea worthy in all conditions and will get you home ! Survived Halloween Storm of 92 if I remember year correctly ! Most know as the Perfect Storm !

  • @gregoneil2036
    @gregoneil2036 Před měsícem +5

    BCC's are still built and available from Cape George Marine in Port Townsend WA. (from the Sam Morse molds)

  • @knlazar08
    @knlazar08 Před měsícem +2

    Speaking of Pilot Cutters, your viewers might enjoy checking out a YT channel called "Sampson Boat Co." It consists of a Brit named Leo that's spent many years rebuilding a Pilot Cutter called "Tally Ho", that won the Fastnet race in 1927. And then had a really interesting history, including running aground in the Pacific, nearly sunk, and being repaired by the local natives!
    She ended up abandoned on the Oregon Coast, until Leo bought her, moved her to Washington, lofted her from scratch, and finally got her launched. Just a few weeks ago in Port Townsend, in fact. They plan to continue rigging and sea trials, and end up sailing her back to England and race her again, in Fastnet 2027 this time.
    At over a century old, she won't be the youngest girt at that ball, but she might still be the prettiest! Watching the years worth of videos show that the entire thing has been a labor of love. They polished the floors to a mirror finish... just to install them under the sole where they'll never be seen. One can get a hint of the beauty from the hanging knees that do show though. IMO, Tally Ho is utterly gorgeous. I don't know if Fastnet has various classes, but it wouldn't surprise me if she wins again. And if she doesn't, she'll still be the prettiest Centenarian around! :-)

    • @LadyKSailing
      @LadyKSailing  Před měsícem

      Nice!

    • @knlazar08
      @knlazar08 Před měsícem

      @@LadyKSailing Is Tally Ho not the most gorgeous boat around? The newest vid is just out today and guess what? She ran aground on the second outing returning to Port Townsend harbor! I might consider that an ill omen... except that everybody runs aground eventually. I think that Tally Ho was just getting it out of her system now, when it was an easy grounding. Or maybe she remembers her big grounding in the Pacific in the 50's and wants to ground easy this time, instead of rip her side open! I believe that even inanimate objects have feelings. Esp. sailboats. 🙂
      Fastnet 2027! I'll be putting money on her!

  • @teeheeteeheeish
    @teeheeteeheeish Před měsícem +1

    Ive seen Blackbird in Port Hadlock in person, she turns heads everywhere she goes. Having that pilot house is a necessity in the NW, but definitely a selling point for anybody.

  • @tomcostello2274
    @tomcostello2274 Před měsícem

    You definitely have a talent for helping us all feel the romance of sailing the world on a small wooden boat. They may be a total pain to maintain, but they are true beauty on the water.

  • @freemansmith1
    @freemansmith1 Před měsícem +2

    Well done! Very interesting back story. Great vid, tthanks Tim!

  • @hsiwbdksndhsksnd
    @hsiwbdksndhsksnd Před měsícem +3

    What cool and informative video! Nicole from Sailing Artha has been doing an extensive refit on her BCC and has quite a few videos on the process. Since she is a very good writer, I bet she can come up with a great Practical Sailor article on these boats once she finishes!

  • @johnsranchlife8634
    @johnsranchlife8634 Před měsícem

    I’ve been drooling over this boat for many many years.

  • @SurfinScientist
    @SurfinScientist Před měsícem +2

    And as a bonus, these boats are eye candy.

  • @martinsaunders7925
    @martinsaunders7925 Před 16 dny

    The first sailboat I sailed on was Equinox,from circa 1880. It led to me living on a sailboat for 34 years. Presently a 1968 Pearson 300 pilothouse.

  • @kevingardner1658
    @kevingardner1658 Před měsícem +1

    Mate, I'm in love with BCC's and I think that this is probably your best episode yet

    • @skyedivers
      @skyedivers Před měsícem

      I'll second that. One of my fav too.

  • @goodnewsfromgod-bybob5710
    @goodnewsfromgod-bybob5710 Před měsícem

    I love this story and “recommendation”! Thanks again!

  • @chrispitchford6045
    @chrispitchford6045 Před měsícem

    Great stories, great boat.....I'm sold!

  • @SimonCrouch-qu6gh
    @SimonCrouch-qu6gh Před měsícem

    I've always loved these vessels, Tim. Well done as usual.

  • @bellwether9496
    @bellwether9496 Před měsícem +4

    Small but mighty!

  • @niccat7051
    @niccat7051 Před 4 dny

    There's a saying here where I live in Cardiff.
    “If you can sail single-handed in the Bristol Channel “ you can sail anywhere!!
    I can confirm that this is probably true!!

  • @factanonverba6169
    @factanonverba6169 Před měsícem

    Looking at the sail plan and hull reminded me of SV Tally Ho. Thanks, good stuff.

  • @kirks386
    @kirks386 Před měsícem

    Thanks for sharing your sailing history knowledge. Peace be the Journey.

  • @rogerc4196
    @rogerc4196 Před měsícem +1

    Another excellent video, as always. As for the most seaworthy small boat... I think the Pacific Seacraft Dana 24 is a strong contender too. But they're all good at this tier.

  • @sirjabbas
    @sirjabbas Před měsícem

    Interesting vid. Really liking the boat history/backstory line. More please :) 👍

  • @ericthomsen9644
    @ericthomsen9644 Před měsícem +3

    I believe the molds for this boat ended up in Port Townsend, WA at the builder of Cape George cutters. I visited the factory in Costa Mesa many years ago and was graciously given the tour by then-owner Roger. They were a primarily semi-custom opperation only doing about three hulls at a time. Good boats and great design!

    • @timdunn2257
      @timdunn2257 Před měsícem

      I'm confused. Is this boat wood or fiberglass?

    • @ericthomsen9644
      @ericthomsen9644 Před měsícem

      @@timdunn2257 They're glass, but there are many examples of Hess designs out there in wood as well. The Samuel Morse company used to build them in Costa Mesa, but the molds are now in Port Townsend from what I understand.

    • @timdunn2257
      @timdunn2257 Před měsícem +2

      @@ericthomsen9644 Hi, Eric - I finished out a Skookum 34 built in Port Townsend. Blondie Hasler designed a junk schooner rig for me for it. Her masts were fir trees cut from the hill above Port Townsend in the Hadlock area, trimmed and tapered with a broad axe and a drawknife, in 1974. It sounds like she would have been tender, but she was actually as stiff as a church. She had a big rig, 740 sq. ft., but low. Her mainmast head was only 35' above the partners. Her hull was designed by Ed. Monk Sr., surely his last sailboat design. I sailed her to Hong Kong via the South Pacific. At that time, back in the early 70s, there were a couple of companies there that made Atkin designed Ingrid glass hulls.
      We ancient mariners remember Lynn and Larry Pardey and their engineless Bristol Channel cutter. Sadly, he has passed away.

  • @Trevessa24
    @Trevessa24 Před měsícem

    Just found Lady K...
    Excellent information. All sensible and correct too.

    • @LadyKSailing
      @LadyKSailing  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching!

    • @knlazar08
      @knlazar08 Před měsícem

      OFC. He's Canadian! Besides politeness, sensible and correct are a Canuck's main features.

  • @brucegarrison4999
    @brucegarrison4999 Před měsícem

    Thank you Tim

  • @rogerirwin8878
    @rogerirwin8878 Před měsícem

    Nicely done!

  • @TheCrabbers
    @TheCrabbers Před měsícem

    Beautiful little video.

  • @rimasmeleshyus9486
    @rimasmeleshyus9486 Před měsícem

    Bristol Channel Cutter wooden classic design sailboat ⛵️. My favorite is. all the time .I sailed in the Pacific and really liked it .

  • @richardstever3242
    @richardstever3242 Před měsícem +2

    First sail was on a boat named Serenity. It should have been called Calamity as we almost ran aground off Beausoliel Point on Georgian Bay.

  • @michaelrobinson8915
    @michaelrobinson8915 Před měsícem

    Awsome work, blessings...m

  • @richardduval9237
    @richardduval9237 Před měsícem

    Thank you!

  • @10lauset
    @10lauset Před měsícem +1

    Cheers.

  • @JenkinsBoatWorks
    @JenkinsBoatWorks Před měsícem

    I have an infatuation for the pilot cutter. Awesome video. thanks! Chuck

    • @knlazar08
      @knlazar08 Před měsícem

      If you like pilot cutters, you'll LOVE Tally Ho:
      czcams.com/video/8sNU6MmFB5g/video.html

  • @colinbarnard6512
    @colinbarnard6512 Před měsícem

    You may wish to pick another astronaut. Neil Armstrong did NOT complete many Earth orbits in his career as a NASA astro. In Gemini 8, he and Dave Scott completed only 7 orbits before having to return to Earth after a thruster malfunction. Apollo 11, he, Buzz Aldrin and Mike Collins only orbited 1.5 times before TLI. So, Armstrong has only orbited the Earth 8.5 times. I'd choose Peggy Whitson, or Sergei Krielev. Or, as a fellow Canuk, Chris Hadfield. Great vid!

  • @SuperChriscunningham
    @SuperChriscunningham Před 19 dny

    Larry was a great sailor. His passing is very sad

  • @kjaubrey4816
    @kjaubrey4816 Před měsícem

    I might have had a few drinks the other night, put in a $17 bid on an abandoned trailer sailboat on a military base right outside of DC and won the auction for $20 with auction fees.
    They don't know what the make or model is but from looking at pictures, I think it is a Halcyon 23.
    The description says that the rough measurement is 25 ft. I don't know how accurate that is.
    Either way, I have a project and I am excited.

  • @thetraveller3577
    @thetraveller3577 Před měsícem +1

    Can you tell me if william and john aitkin boats have much of a following in your part of the world. ? Loved the video ....amazing history. Before the gaff cutters it was all square rigged!

  • @patrickconnor8223
    @patrickconnor8223 Před měsícem

    I own its little sister-the Falmouth Cutter 22; incredible quality and a surprisingly fast cruiser despite its heavy displacement. My only wish is that they used an interior layout like the Pacific Seacraft Flicka. If they did, it would double the interior storage capacity of the Flicka with only two additional feet of hull length.

  • @jasondevine4210
    @jasondevine4210 Před měsícem

    Do you have a couple of recommendations for a 6’4” man looking for a Bluewater sailboat? Thanks for your videos!!!!!

  • @markjennings2315
    @markjennings2315 Před měsícem

    Desiderata is for sale. Wonderful boat. Met it in New Zealand.

  • @MM-vv8mt
    @MM-vv8mt Před měsícem

    Royal Navy and Yankee Coast Guard cutters were the maritime highway patrol of their day, winging in to interdict smugglers. The evolution of cutter design in the 18th and 19th centuries were indeed part of a long technological arms race that began with Henry the Navigator and which continues to this day.

  • @stevewaechter7759
    @stevewaechter7759 Před měsícem

    Tim, I have been watching a lot of sailing youtube channels and love them, yours being a favorite.
    You mention Delos all the time. I have seen the Sailing SV Delos channel with the man and wife and daughter. But tonight you said something about two or three guys sailing on Delos for years. Is that the same? Clue me in here! I don't know if the couple with the daughter are the Delos people you are talking about.

  • @tomlambert1833
    @tomlambert1833 Před měsícem

    There is one here in Gibsons Marina BC Canada kept in pristine condition..

  • @luapbopbop
    @luapbopbop Před měsícem

    Ha! Growing up our family boat, a Coronado 34, was named Desiderata. I’m in my 60s and never met anyone who knew the poem, let alone tattooed with it.

  • @Peter-jo3wt
    @Peter-jo3wt Před měsícem

    I've been a big fan of Taiwanese Teak Monstrosities, but you mau have permanently turned my head to Bristal Cutters.

  • @rickemmet1104
    @rickemmet1104 Před měsícem

    Hey Tim, that boat reminds me (not that it looks similar to it) of Joshua Slocum's boat, the Spray. The story of the creation of the boat and how it was sailed. Slocum's book was published in 1900 and is extremely well written. Slocum was not a professional writer, but wrote better than most of the novelists of that era. It's a great story, Joshua was the first person to sail around the world alone, hence the title, "Sailing Alone Around The World." And Joshua also built the boat himself!

    • @rickemmet1104
      @rickemmet1104 Před měsícem

      Two Years Before The Mast was also fantastic. I read that about four times.

    • @timdunn2257
      @timdunn2257 Před měsícem +1

      You can read Captain Slocum's book free on the internet. It's amazing. His boat couldn't possibly be more different than a Bristol Channel Cutter, though. It's lead mine versus skimming dish.

  • @douglas9825
    @douglas9825 Před 19 dny

    Hey Lady K, are you savey to Leo and the Tally Ho story? Incredible You tube venture.

  • @MichaelMechsner
    @MichaelMechsner Před měsícem +3

    Unfortunately BCC's are few and far between. As such they are very expensive!!

  • @donnasingleton6320
    @donnasingleton6320 Před měsícem

    The penultimate sailing vessel. My all time favorite design is the Bristol Channel Cutter.....unfortunately I'll never be able to afford one short of winning the lottery(that I never play)

  • @rogerirwin8878
    @rogerirwin8878 Před měsícem +1

    OK I give up! Where do I find this movie. I've tried Netflix, Apple, Amazon Prime. Please direct me to a source?
    Thx!!

  • @MrChrisHobday
    @MrChrisHobday Před měsícem

    Hi I’ve just got a Fisher 25 check them out very similar boat designs & another work horse. I would love to know what you think, please? You’re doing fantastic work on both channels & you should be very proud of what you’ve achieving. Thank you for all the great content, it’s a real pleasure to sit down & get out of my wheelchair after sailing & watch some Lady K.

  • @luisadriandelgado5343
    @luisadriandelgado5343 Před měsícem

    can you share some light on Lyle Hess other boat design the Nor Sea 27

  • @Sailor7sea89
    @Sailor7sea89 Před měsícem

    where can i watch the movie ?

  • @gsullivan3262
    @gsullivan3262 Před 27 dny

    Hilaire Belloc would be proud!

  • @todddunn945
    @todddunn945 Před měsícem

    There has been a BCC 28 next to Seaquestor in the shed for the last two winters. It looks pretty small next to my Allied 36 and isn't any more seaworthy. They are pretty, but I wouldn't buy one because I don't like sprits, boomkins and the small interior.

  • @patricesavard366
    @patricesavard366 Před měsícem

    There's a Bristol 30 for sale on marketplace, in my area, 500$... No clue of the state, there's only one picture. Unfortunately, I don't have the space to store it ☹️

  • @RussOcean
    @RussOcean Před 21 dnem

    Second star to the right and straight on 'til morning

  • @SailingAwayNZ
    @SailingAwayNZ Před měsícem

    Six knots 🤣🤣 Great video. I'll stick with my Catamaran build, light and fast

  • @Monkeywrenchmotorcycles
    @Monkeywrenchmotorcycles Před měsícem

    I came across them when I was searching for an old full keel bluewater boat and had to sadly rule them out based on price.

  • @seanrhone5306
    @seanrhone5306 Před měsícem

    Thought they were using a Nor'sea 27?

    • @johnnyhag675
      @johnnyhag675 Před měsícem +1

      Theresa sailed a Nor'Sea 27 solo. Her future husband Ben, had the Bristol Channel Cutter, if memory serves me.

  • @mfournier12
    @mfournier12 Před měsícem

    Expensive boat if you can find one for sale you’re going to be paying a lot for a 28ft boat. So it’s a boat for the well healed sailor. (I suppose you could find a barn or put up a shed and build your own if you have the skill like Larry Pardy)

  • @jamesbaldwin7676
    @jamesbaldwin7676 Před měsícem +1

    I have an old Down East 38, which has many of the same qualities as the Bristol Channel Cutter, including a fairly heavy displacement. I consider it a very "seaworthy" and capable, bluewater cruiser.
    If however, the hull were to ever be compromised, it would surely sink like a stone (all 19,500 lbs Displacement.)
    This brings me to my life raft and perhaps the most seaworthy boat you can own. It's called a "Portland Pudgy" and it's unsinkable. (Google it.) All I have to do is cut the straps holding it on the foredeck. When the Downeaster goes down, the Pudgy will positively, pop up. Right side up or down, doesn't matter. I can sail it, row it or just sit in it. I'm saved.
    So "seaworthy" is a relative term. Most unsinkable boats are quite small but some are not. Surely some of these boats are truly the most "seaworthy" vessels afloat.
    In an ocean filled with container ships and drifting, submerged but floating containers, the chances of running into one is unfortunately, not so remote.
    A heavy displacement boat may end-up being a key to Davey Jones locker.

  • @SailingArtha
    @SailingArtha Před měsícem +1

    😃❤

  • @waynebuzzell2483
    @waynebuzzell2483 Před 8 dny

    Haven't even heard of it.

  • @loveyou211ful
    @loveyou211ful Před měsícem

    I follow you and I’d like to ask, am I crazy to want to learn and buy a sailboat at 60?

    • @LadyKSailing
      @LadyKSailing  Před měsícem

      you are definitely not crazy - anyone can learn to sail at any age - go for it!

  • @130bowman
    @130bowman Před měsícem +1

    Watch “Chasing Bubbles”

    • @LadyKSailing
      @LadyKSailing  Před měsícem

      Already have, many times- one of my favourites 😊

  • @KenDavies-qv3fs
    @KenDavies-qv3fs Před měsícem

    The BCC is the best small boat on the water.

  • @stevenfogerty2110
    @stevenfogerty2110 Před měsícem +3

    Tally Ho then 😊😊😊

  • @saltydogashore
    @saltydogashore Před měsícem

    Tal- yes - inn is how you say it

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE Před měsícem +2

    Possible title error skip!⚓

  • @moosewing1
    @moosewing1 Před měsícem

    This must be fate, I've been dithering over a 28 in steel, fresh water only, all stripped out and re epoxied, new Yanmar to be installed but the cabin needs to be rebuilt. This video has gone a long way to convincing me she's with the effort.

  • @teklife
    @teklife Před 24 dny

    a comfy cozy drakes passage boat?

  • @SalingSamantas
    @SalingSamantas Před měsícem

    There's no hin number on my Columbia 10-7 either paid in 79

  • @gr3398
    @gr3398 Před měsícem +1

    Where can you stream One Simple Question? Thanks

  • @floydcampen
    @floydcampen Před měsícem

    What is up, it’s not a Catalina or one of the cook cutter French boats

  • @liamstone3437
    @liamstone3437 Před měsícem +1

    Cut n pasted a bit quickly.

  • @stephengrimmer35
    @stephengrimmer35 Před měsícem

    I think Fundy has higher tides.

  • @bryanrichards5814
    @bryanrichards5814 Před měsícem

    Go allgyrithom go

  • @michaelschultz5968
    @michaelschultz5968 Před měsícem

    The Bristol Pilot Cutter:
    czcams.com/video/g5MhJKXAayQ/video.htmlsi=Dpe8dBa5eTHooMX6
    Thanks for your inspiring videos.
    One day I'll sail out here from Denmark and cross the big oceans. 🙏

  • @jimevans9550
    @jimevans9550 Před měsícem

    Most seaworthy? Talk to the Mini 6.50 guys!

  • @boathemian7694
    @boathemian7694 Před měsícem

    My Tahiti ketch was no less seaworthy, far less costly to get into. There are many designs comparable. But, if you’re a trust funded person by all means…

  • @ExploringCabinsandMines
    @ExploringCabinsandMines Před měsícem

    it looks slow

  • @johncremeans969
    @johncremeans969 Před 16 dny

    It looks like a dog who would want to sell a bathtub