How Robert the Bruce Took Back Berwick from England?

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • When Robert the Bruce won at Bannockburn it wasn't all over. One of the biggest challenges was the English occupation of Berwick on Tweed. Scottish History Tour Guide Bruce, Fummey travels to Berwick to explain Robert the Bruce's attempts to take it back.
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Komentáře • 205

  • @ScotlandHistoryTours
    @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +11

    See my videos on the death of Robert the Bruce at czcams.com/video/P_RmyYh3s1I/video.html

    • @jeremysmith54565
      @jeremysmith54565 Před 2 lety

      You may find it interesting that the Black Douglas (know full well it was his name by England lol, but I think its an epic nickname haha) I'm almost convinced was him though its never been named as him. When Ripon back in that century (14th of course) the Wakeman who protected Ripon (formerly Inrhypum in Old English, goes back to the least 650s) during the night from 9pm (is why its the oldest on going ceremony in Europe, without any doubt) until about 3am, had to pay about 1,000 marks to stop the Scots from burning Ripon to the ground. I'm almost convinced that was Douglas and his army.

    • @jeremysmith54565
      @jeremysmith54565 Před 2 lety

      Loved that previous reply you made about correcting me about the Guardians of Scotland and aye found that hugely interesting.
      Really love your videos and hope you're doing well?

  • @gerryphilly53
    @gerryphilly53 Před 2 lety +26

    Your videos are an excellent blend of historical fact and brilliant storytelling. This installment about Berwick on Tweed is another example.

  • @alansmithee8831
    @alansmithee8831 Před 2 lety +13

    A'reyt Bruce. Grand tale again. I used to play on those familiar Berwick ramparts at medieval knights, though I never fought Scottish ones in my holiday games as over the border in Coldstream I picked such lovely strawberries, one for me, one for the basket. Then off to Seahouses to haggle for fish straight off the boat (Yorkshire kids need no training in thrift).

  • @caliburn50a
    @caliburn50a Před 2 lety +6

    I've learnt more about the other side of the history of these islands than anything taught at school. Great stuff Bruce keep them coming

  • @dahoop5933
    @dahoop5933 Před 2 lety +12

    Mate - you're fecking AWESOME at this $hit!

  • @yorkshiredreamer443
    @yorkshiredreamer443 Před 5 měsíci

    I travelled up to Berwick yesterday for my job. Long old drive from Bradford West Yorkshire but absaloutly stunning looking part of the country. The sea is so blue,castles every few miles. I'm in love with that corner of England/Scotland

  • @alexweatherburn4390
    @alexweatherburn4390 Před 2 lety +5

    My father and grandfather came from Berwick upon Tweed, they were made Freemen of the town and my paternal ancestors were from the area, whenever I go back there I at home.

  • @geowidman
    @geowidman Před 2 lety +3

    Better than a movie! Thanks again for a tale of twists and turns so very well told. And that, too, is no bull at all.

  • @Samouraii
    @Samouraii Před 2 lety +5

    I'm from North East England and my known ancestors come from both Northern England and Scotland so I am really interested about the Anglo-Scottish Conflicts.
    Great content as always Bruce! 👍

  • @hanshauge-rasmussen5348
    @hanshauge-rasmussen5348 Před 2 lety +4

    Your right Bruce.. Why hasnt there been made a movie of this fasinating material 👍

  • @EKcyclist
    @EKcyclist Před 2 lety +3

    An excellent video as usual, Bruce! And your self control is to be admired, having delivered your dialogue whilst two auld yins we’re having a stooshie right next to ye!

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +1

      😂Aye I did do another take, but my wife insisted in keeping the one where the bonny boat was coming in

  • @graywolf4208
    @graywolf4208 Před 2 lety +5

    Love listening to your stories Bruce.
    Keep 'em coming. I always learn something interesting from your videos. And your wit makes me smile. Mòran taing Bruce. ❤️

  • @Kevo20
    @Kevo20 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video as usual Bruce. Nice to see you down in my neck of the woods at St.Abbs.

  • @brentwallace7096
    @brentwallace7096 Před 2 lety +4

    another interesting story. thank you, Bruce.

  • @105Gunner
    @105Gunner Před 2 lety +2

    Respect for not telling Jack and Victor to keep it down while you were recording that last bit.

  • @brodyrobertson8887
    @brodyrobertson8887 Před 2 lety +1

    I wish history teachers in school would teach the way you do. Learn something new everytime. Cheers Bruce 🇨🇦 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @freebirdmcchester8257
    @freebirdmcchester8257 Před 2 lety +1

    I just found out he's a great grandfather of mine. I got lots to learn about him and my Stewart Grandfathers. 🍻🤙

  • @davescott1491
    @davescott1491 Před 2 lety +2

    It is truly a beautiful town. I wish I had this knowledge when we had a wee visit while driving by. Guess we have to go back and take it in within the historic perspective that will make it even more interesting. Thanks very much Bruce.

  • @flashcad8185
    @flashcad8185 Před 2 lety +5

    Another excellent video Bruce

  • @jm-yk3jo
    @jm-yk3jo Před 2 lety +1

    I hope you have a good day to Bruce.

  • @BeardWizardMan
    @BeardWizardMan Před rokem

    Great video. I'm related, through my mother, to Peter Spalding. It's a fascinating story how our family got involved in all that. Thanks for the video.

  • @Sandwich13455
    @Sandwich13455 Před 2 lety +5

    Sterling work again sir,know that part of the coastline well .

  • @jezblades9913
    @jezblades9913 Před 2 lety +7

    That would be an ECUMENICAL matter!

  • @bigh9809
    @bigh9809 Před 2 lety +4

    Well done laddie, usual standard f,,,,,,,,, brilliant, first vid I've seen for a while Bruce been rather busy I've got to catch up slán abhaile for now ✌️👍

  • @silverbullet6436
    @silverbullet6436 Před 2 lety +14

    I'm not religious but let me tell you a story two atheists left england for Derry . When they got there they run into a staunch old derry man . He asked them are you religious ,no were atheists. Argh jaysus said the old fella but are you Catholic atheists or Protestant . Ok more of a joke. Thanks for another great story Dearthair

  • @armstronggermany2995
    @armstronggermany2995 Před 2 lety +1

    Just briliant- honest I'll pay you something for this fantastic work... when I can.. soon.

  • @henryjohnfacey8213
    @henryjohnfacey8213 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for Posting a great video thank you. Great fortifications a jewel. Is it true that any treaty signed by parliament is signed Scotland Ireland Wales England and Berwick upon Tweed. Must pay another visit.

  • @viperscot1
    @viperscot1 Před 2 lety +7

    Excellent video keep them coming 😁😁😁
    Soar alba 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @alextullock4829
    @alextullock4829 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video, facts, and knowledge about the area… I’m from Eyemouth a wee town next to st abbs… if you have any history on Eyemouth that would be much appreciated also if you stay in Eyemouth book the home arms guesthouse as it’s mine and my wife’s and would love to have you stay

  • @brianeggar
    @brianeggar Před 2 lety +3

    I learnt about Robert the Bruce from Nigel Tranter.
    It amazes me how few people know about the Battle of Loudoun Hill.
    This is where Robert defeated 300 English knights with a small motley crew.

  • @dice1902
    @dice1902 Před měsícem

    In Berwick for the first time today doing a refresher watch from you to get my bearings 😂

  • @colinp2238
    @colinp2238 Před 2 lety +3

    I don't know what anyone else thinks but I think that Berwick is one of the hiddeh gems in the British Isles. It's a beautiful place to visit if you don't mind the wind.

  • @PaulJohnson-lu3mj
    @PaulJohnson-lu3mj Před 2 lety +4

    Marmite!! 😂Brilliant Bruce, great story as usual and very interesting too. Thanks.

  • @Maesterful
    @Maesterful Před 2 lety +2

    Love your content pal, keep it up

  • @gerrycastlemanwarde5933

    Brilliant! Thank you! Loved it!

  • @mistorWhiskers
    @mistorWhiskers Před 2 lety +1

    I don't really have any to say that hasn't been already, so enjoy this lovely engagement 😉

  • @denzil_red
    @denzil_red Před 2 lety

    Just discovered your content. Fantastic stories well told. Love it 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @asignmaker
    @asignmaker Před 2 lety

    Quite interesting, easy to follow understand and entertaining. ✌️ Again 👍☕

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly Před 2 lety

    The place at 6:10 looks similar to the scene in outlaw king where the English displayed Wallace’ quartered body....

  • @gordonmillar110
    @gordonmillar110 Před 2 lety

    Brilliant video another excellent video

  • @apachecatcat3495
    @apachecatcat3495 Před 2 lety +2

    I always thought Jack Bruce , Eric Clapton and Ginger Baker had a hand in this…

  • @amandagraham4254
    @amandagraham4254 Před 2 lety

    I'm not familiar with her as I am in Canada, but I will check Amazon and my local bookstore

  • @happybee7725
    @happybee7725 Před 2 lety

    I’m gonni buy that book dark hunter.

  • @pjmoseley243
    @pjmoseley243 Před 2 lety +2

    The SNP have voiced the desire to take the north of England down to Manchester from the west across to the east, this was voiced by Nicola Sturgeon herself in the recent past. history never stops and borders never remain stable or permanent. Love your channel.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety

      That seems far too unlikely to be believeable

    • @pjmoseley243
      @pjmoseley243 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours She said it even if its not believeable, she said she would take the north of england with her if they wanted it. that tells me she is someone to be cautious about. Imagine if that happened how difficult it would be for the UK to even exist or the south to exist on its own.

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

      Away and boil your head laddie

    • @pjmoseley243
      @pjmoseley243 Před 2 lety

      @@williamlong7188 i have lol

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

      @@pjmoseley243 😀😅

  • @kimberlyspaulding3062

    Peter Spalding is my ancestor :) Sounds like us!

  • @Mr1osufan1
    @Mr1osufan1 Před 2 lety

    On my dad’s side my family is from Berwick -Upon-Tweed. They were all fisherman. I recently saw a copy of my great grandpas birth certificate and it says the town was part of Scotland. However, we thought he was English. So we can’t tell if we’re English or Scottish. The copy was from the 40s when he needed it sent to the US after he moved here.

  • @darcybissonpullen7125
    @darcybissonpullen7125 Před 2 lety

    Like the pic of the fryer monk

  • @emc1888
    @emc1888 Před 2 lety +4

    Who do we chib to get it back 🤔

  • @gfkeenan4
    @gfkeenan4 Před 2 lety +1

    As someone who lives in the area - its interesting you talk about Berwick making no geographical sense being in England. What I was told, and happy to be corrected, is that the whole of the south of Scotland was once the kingdom of Northumbria before the 7 kingdoms were united into England. What is now known as the Scottish Borders could be argued as a annexed area of England from when the Scottish saw a chance to take land when the English were pre-occupied with the Vikings. Then the Normans invaded and they did the roman approach and didn't really care about anything north of Newcastle until later, so never restored the England/Scotland border to where it originally was when the two countries were formed.
    I could be talking out my arse and miss-remembered stuff, therefore happy to be corrected.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +2

      I don't know about talking out of your arse. If you're analysing every word and sentence then you may be thinking about it too much. I have a video on the Northumbrian Angles being one of the component parts of what became Scotland czcams.com/video/0T3WPrq8mVw/video.html

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety +1

      South of Scotland was never in England as England is mapped out now it was however part of the Independent Kingdom of Northumbria. The Kingdom of Fife was a separate Kingdom once that was swallowed into being what is now Scotland. England wasn’t formed when Northumbria held the lands between the Forth & the Humber. It wasn’t until the Battle of Carham the Tweed formed the border as we know it now between Scotland & England. So rightfully Berwick does belong to Scotland and Scotland held it first before the wars of independence changed its nationality 14 times over the next few centuries.

  • @davidcameron6877
    @davidcameron6877 Před 2 lety +3

    Bruce.
    Do you have a video about the seven head well ?

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 Před 2 lety +3

    So when do we march on B on T ?

  • @williamlong7188
    @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

    Bruce I would be interested if you done a video on The Battle of Halidon Hill just outside the town of Berwick.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/NslSEF6RnVQ/video.html

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +1

      Actually maybe you start with this one czcams.com/video/bQclReGq9QE/video.html

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

      I have a DVD of Tom Weir visiting the town of Berwick-upon-Tweed for Weir's Way on STV many moons ago and at the end of his tour he spoke into the camera to the viewer that he believed that the Town in every sense was of a Scottish town . Thanks for replying.

  • @YimYimYimYimYim
    @YimYimYimYimYim Před 2 lety +1

    How did they break in to the castle? Ramparts.

  • @WalterDouglas12
    @WalterDouglas12 Před 2 lety

    How about you tell us the story of sir James Douglas his life and death

  • @nickolausafon5458
    @nickolausafon5458 Před 2 lety

    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't James, a Scot, as England's king, help bring the two nations together? He did change a lot of trend and like Elizabeth, he had grand ambitions.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety

      I'm not sure I understand. I've done videos on James, but he was nothing to do with this period

  • @codywalls3261
    @codywalls3261 Před 2 lety

    We all can't join cause times r truly hard here in the south of the USA. Every penny I use for my family.

  • @brettalizer3271
    @brettalizer3271 Před 2 lety +6

    evil Bruce Fummey be like "don't let me tell you a story"

  • @chrislaw3451
    @chrislaw3451 Před 2 lety

    I live here! In Berwick that is not a bad place 😊

  • @helenswan705
    @helenswan705 Před 2 lety

    For another side to Berwick, enjoy Mark Steel being very funny about it czcams.com/video/huX-PuC0KA4/video.html.

  • @jtad2515
    @jtad2515 Před 2 lety

    Hi Bruce,Iv msgd you before I'm sure.I was wandering if you could point me in the right direction, all my life my mums said that on her and my grans,her mums side that we were related to the black Douglas,I had no idea the black Douglas as she'd referred to him was Robert the Bruce's right hand man,have you any idea how I could track this down and prove it one way or the other,It's funny because my grandparents have got a rich history,my grandfather was a 17 year old whaler from Kincardine who got drafted into the war and his boat was torpedoed and he was the sole survivor of the whole ship,my other grandfather was a paratrooper who thought all over Europe and the Netherlands, and my dad's dad,survived the concentration camps in Poland, and came over here after the war ,thanks for taking the time to read this,thankyou for any advice you could give me.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm not sure what you want to track down, James Douglas was definitely Bruce’s shining Knight. As for your Ancestry, you need a genealogist, but that's a long way back. The genealogist I know is Sarah at Unlovk My Past www.unlockyourpast.co.uk/

    • @jtad2515
      @jtad2515 Před 2 lety

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours thankyou for getting back to me yes I'll check out sarah,yeah it's to see if it would be possible to find out if the black Douglas was a distant relation,thank-you again.

  • @davidcameron6877
    @davidcameron6877 Před 2 lety +1

    I am a patreon member but I am lost in the records ,I still pay

  • @chrisball3778
    @chrisball3778 Před 2 lety +1

    I remember a few years ago someone did a survey of the inhabitants of Berwick and more than half wanted the town to go back to being in Scotland.

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

      I remember that too. You know that England held Monmouthshire back to Wales as recently as the early 1970’s?

  • @traildogisla
    @traildogisla Před 2 lety

    See Bruce, hit the like button

  • @fisherat5856
    @fisherat5856 Před 2 lety

    Two things of note, 1 excellent story as always. 2. My eyes may be tricking me but is that Scottish weather? Doesn't look right it looks comfortable. That can't be right.

  • @18pablo88
    @18pablo88 Před 2 lety +1

    How did it end back with them

  • @lesjames5191
    @lesjames5191 Před 2 lety +2

    Sod off!! That's a good auld Geordie word.😄

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +3

      😂 I thought it was Scottish

    • @angussoutter7824
      @angussoutter7824 Před 2 lety +2

      🤣🤣

    • @lesjames5191
      @lesjames5191 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours nae way, let's be honest Scots are geordies who got lost( tin hat on) 😄😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.ps my ancestors came from berwickshire 👍

  • @williamlong7188
    @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

    Bruce , once I was driving out of Paxton close to the banks of the north side of the River Tweed towards Berwick at night and not far eastwards is the current borderline into Northumbria & England in the bounds of Berwick ( obviously the Parish of Berwick Upon Tweed ) at night and as we approached the borderline we saw a badger 🦡 running towards the border. So I am wondering if that particular badger 🦡 is a Scottish Badger 🦡 or an English Badger 🦡 or British Badger 🦡 or a Berwicker Badger 🦡? 😂

  • @loyalpiper
    @loyalpiper Před 2 lety +5

    You have marmite in your fridge?
    DISGUSTIN!

  • @western-oud1898
    @western-oud1898 Před 2 lety

    That pesky moon..

  • @fionaoliver7237
    @fionaoliver7237 Před 2 lety

    Edward Longshanks slaughtered the people of Berwick-Upon-Tweed, bodies were thrown down wells.

  • @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach

    Looking at the title, my instant guess is a monumental "rock, paper, scissors" game.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +1

      🤣Aye, maybe that would have been a better method

    • @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach
      @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach Před 2 lety

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours 😄 let's face it, Bruce could only use "meet me in the church for a quiet chat about it" so many times..

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

    Anyone who dislikes your videos is committing high treason.

  • @howler6490
    @howler6490 Před 2 lety

    James Tiberius as no.1 bruce?

  • @noahtylerpritchett2682
    @noahtylerpritchett2682 Před 2 lety +1

    Why do you want Berwick to be transferred to Scotland? Does it matter that much? Sorry I don't understand the logic. Technically parts of the Lowlands belong to England because of Northumbria.
    Know what I mean?
    So in the end nothing needs to be transferred.

  • @malcomflibbleghast8140
    @malcomflibbleghast8140 Před měsícem

    How did you get the visa signed to go abroad, did you bribe some snp official?

  • @patriciameany1238
    @patriciameany1238 Před 2 lety +1

    So now a days what so the people of Berwick class themselves Scot's or the other

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +2

      Ooooooh controversy

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety +1

      If I lived in Berwick Upon Tweed and was born & bred there and lived on the north side of the River Tweed and my accent was distinctly Scottish I would consider myself Scottish 100% definitely. If it was English and Geordie I would say I was English. That’s how I would define my nationality if I lived there born & bred.

  • @andrewharper3165
    @andrewharper3165 Před 2 lety +1

    Woooah,! Don’t stop there. So how did the Scottish lose Berwick again ? Another story in the off is there?

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Před 2 lety +1

      ...of course😎

    • @skg8268
      @skg8268 Před 2 lety +2

      Hotspur won it back.

    • @andrewharper3165
      @andrewharper3165 Před 2 lety +2

      @@skg8268 yeah I had an idea , but we need Bruce to tell us this story in his particular style. Way more fun and interesting 🤔

    • @coinneachreid8971
      @coinneachreid8971 Před 2 lety +3

      It changed hands several times to the extent that in the 60s the town council discovered that they were technically at war with the Soviet Union as they had been on one side when a war with Russia started and on the other when it ended meaning they were not technically covered by the terms of the treaty . Nikita Kruschev sent a delegation to sign a peace with the citizens of Berwick.

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety +1

      Battle of Halidon Hill we lost it for the final time just the north of the town a stones throw away from the big Morrison’s supermarket lol

  • @terryb8310
    @terryb8310 Před 2 lety +3

    All the Scots lowland areas of Northumberland including Edinburgh given to the Scottish crown by the English Anglo Saxon house of Wessex pre 1066 need to be returned to England by the SNP along with Robert Burns night and his old English scribbles .... I'm sure they wouldn't want English soil in Scotland... ;-)

  • @charlesdriggers199
    @charlesdriggers199 Před 2 lety +1

    I was told by my wife to leave you alone and stop messing with you. OK. But. You still ,my friend I don't care how mad you get at me.............................

  • @jackobite68
    @jackobite68 Před 2 lety

    bruce had the brains sir james had the stones thats that

  • @mgtowrules1649
    @mgtowrules1649 Před 2 lety +1

    My nana would threaten me with Marmite if i started actin the toff.

  • @thecelticprince4949
    @thecelticprince4949 Před 2 lety +2

    was ye cannay handle yer Marmite sammies, are ye man or mouse Bruce.

  • @splodge561
    @splodge561 Před rokem

    🍟

  • @DavoidJohnson
    @DavoidJohnson Před 2 lety

    Hey Pope call me King or we no talking. Away an boil yer heed.

  • @pippipster6767
    @pippipster6767 Před 2 lety

    Nah … Real question is: where the hell is Berwick 🤣

  • @lokeshmondal359
    @lokeshmondal359 Před 2 lety

    England 👎

  • @williamlong7188
    @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

    Bruce , imagine at that time a Scottish Soldier had invented a nuclear ☢️ bomb 💣 over England say at the battle of Halidon Hill when we lost the town for good ( 1498 I think ) we could had won the town back no problem at all. There’s an idea If Scotland wins her independence and you wanted to get rid of the nuclear arsenal at Faslane . Just trying to be controversial lol!

  • @williamlong7188
    @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

    I have always been very interested in the history of Berwick Upon Tweed and always said and believe that part of Berwick north of the banks & its bounds belong to Scotland and will never be English or part of England in the true sense of the word. Stolen through conflict doesn’t mean it rightly belongs to England , a thief should not be able to hold and process something that isn’t theirs by right. Imagine Ayrshire had lost Ayr to the English that would not be right it would be a total injustice, just like Berwick was taken out of Scotland the old county town taken out of Berwickshire to England. Funny how the River Tweed in all its entirety is under Scots law when it comes to fishing rights yet the town and bounds of Berwick north of the Tweed remain under English Rule. All because of greed of the English Crown of the time power & wealth. I have always thought after about around 300 odd years of peaceful Union between Scotland & England I never understood why England never gave us Berwick back in a peaceful manner just like they did to giving Monmouthshire back to Wales I think in the early 1970’s ?

    • @jimboll6982
      @jimboll6982 Před 2 lety +3

      Berwick was there before Scotland existed as a Northumbrian town.
      So think before you chat shit.
      Most people of Berwick think of themselves as Berwickers, not English or Scots. So what you think doesn't count. Go iron the pleats in your skirt, whoops! Kilt.

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

      @@jimboll6982 Northumbria was neither Scottish or English it was originally a kingdom on it’s own which once stretched from the Humber to the banks of the River Forth . So take your shit elsewhere.

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

      So where does it end Jim? If England had expanded stole more Scottish soil say maybe Duns or as far as Edinburgh would the people prefer you be known as Dunners or Edinburghers instead of English & Scottish???? You should think. Berwick is originally the county town of Berwickshire was Scottish first before an English king decided to invade Scotland ( Edward 1st Hammer of the Scots) . It changed its nationality 14 times over the century. It’s either got to be in Scotland or England. It’s geographically in the south east corner of Scotland maybe not politically but it is in Scotland. It’s a town neglected by London they don’t care about it. It would be much better in Scottish Hands . Believe me we Scots have a right to claim it back it hasn’t been forgotten about.

    • @gfkeenan4
      @gfkeenan4 Před 2 lety +2

      @@williamlong7188 If your taking 'Stolen land', which border are you talking about? The Scottish border moved considerably south since the Kingdom of Scotland formed in 843. England lost land after its founding in 927 as the kingdom of Northumbria became England. Additionally, Northumbria is considered by many historians to be the birth place of England. For much of its existence, Northumbrian kings (Oswald being a good exampled) were the overlords of the other English Kingdoms.

    • @williamlong7188
      @williamlong7188 Před 2 lety

      @@gfkeenan4 I am referring to the present border but Northumbria wasn’t English earlier it was an independent Anglo-Saxon settlement so those lands north of the Tweed were never English but Northumbrian . Those lands from the Forth to the Tweed were seceded to Scotland just in the same way old Strathclyde ran from the Clyde Basin of Dumbarton to as far as the Lake District in Cumbria lands were seceded to England.

  • @gerrypowell2748
    @gerrypowell2748 Před 2 lety

    Wasn’t the pope then Jewish🥺