Line6 Pod 2.0 Fresh look with IR!
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Hello Old and New School brutal guitar nerds... It is what makes us scrunch up our faces in appreciation and respect!
Some over 20 years @line6movies POD 2.0 gets a little bit of a new approach with the help from @coffeeaudio IR pack.
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0:00 What is this about?
01:36 Original Patch
03:01 New Patch
05:35 Fortin 33
08:08 Third Party IR Jinjer Roman
13:09 Jam Outdated Patch
13:46 Jam Updated Patch
14:42 Jam Roman IR
14:58 Final Thoughts
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The tweaks to the patch were definitely a big improvement, but you can really see the power of a good IR!
Good IR's make a huge difference. What I'm finding lately with IR's are some clash depending on the EQ added to the IR's when they are made... Going back to the amp settings to work with the IR, I feel is becoming more standard practice as IR are getting fancier.
Still got mine.
Hopefully you give it a good shot now and again as well. It's a fun a classic little device.
Hey man, I'm glad to see you've taken up comment section advice to squeeze out more tone from the POD 2.0 , but I believe you may have missed something when pairing it with IR's. I believe Plague Scythe Studios mentioned in his video about the 2.3 EPROM update for the POD that the A.I.R. switch is not as it seems. Switching it to direct DOES NOT disable the cab modeling, you still need to manually disable it by using the tap button and switching the cab section (same as effects knob) to no cabinet. This is probably because you were meant to go straight to board or mixer or audio interface since this device was designed primarily for studio recording. Amp mode, very redundantly, does turn off the cab modeling but imparts another EQ curve over the sound because they designed this to got IN FRONT of an amplifier instead of the effects loops, which sums the stereo effects into mono and does not give a good sound. There are also different "cabinet tuning" modes which affect the sound as it was meant to be used in different set-ups, I don't think you've ever touched upon this...
Also, when using IR's, you need to further use a power amp simulation plugin before the IR's since the power amp modeling is bypassed with no cabinet direct, and it is meant to be run through some kind of power amp, there is some kind of EQ curve baked into the sound which wouldn't be there otherwise. I've seen a few videos about this, The Studio Rats mentioned that you need a power amp sim in between the POD and the IR's in order to get a great sound. Other channels have said POD's don't sound good even with IR's, but they probably didn't know to put a power amp in between, although others have gotten great sounds even without that extra step... maybe it depends on the IR used or what mode they were in ...(hey there's another video idea, could do a comparison)
Lastly, I believe you should really read the manual thoroughly and make use the deep edit feature on your computer. There are Sound Quest, which requires a MIDI connection, or Line 6 Edit, which I think uses USB. There is also a third-party one created by SynthAssist here on CZcams if you can't get the official ones to work. I know you are mainly focused on heavy rhythm tones for Metal, but using the deep edit parameters (which you can use on the physical device although much easier on the software) you can tweak the sound much further such as reverb or delay parameters, switching the cab models, and gaining access to the presence and boost function!
All-in-all, I hope this information can be of use to you and others who may need it, so perhaps you can continue blessing us with these fun POD 2.0 experiment videos! Keep Rocking Metal Prognosis! \m/
That was a huge information hit, thank you for taking the time to spell it all out for me. Looks like there are still things I'm missing from it, which means more things I can learn and muck around with!
I will have to look up to see how I can hook it up to the computer via midi, my version of the POD was before USB haha. I'll have to look into the SynthAssist third party one, I think I used the official editor about 15 years ago, and it was super clunky... I'd be surprised if Line6 did any updates for the POD... I feel like they have moved on to much better things in their line.
@@metalprognosis I am very glad to be of service my brother in Metal! I am pretty sure this device does have the USB-B square connection commonly found on printers. Regarding the editors, Leon Todd and Plague Scythe Studios both got them to work, but others have said you may need to follow certain steps in order to use them on modern computers. I believe SynthAssist charges around $30 US for his version - as he did spend a number of hours coding it from scratch.
Line 6 used to be great in the support for old products in the early days, such as offering upgrade packs for the original POD 1.0 to 2.3 chip, or their original AxSys amp to Ax2 hardware and new face plate pack. I heard they were force to stop all that good stuff when Yamaha bought them out and imposed their own business model on them (that's when they started selling incomplete modelers with "upgrade packs" -Metal Shop anyone?)
@@metalprognosis POD 2.0's do have a USB-B square connection on the back, the kind commonly used on printers. You may need a USB cord suitable for audio connections or you might get artifacts or noise interference. I heard Line 6 had to stop offering support and upgrade kits for their older products when Yamaha bought them out, and instead they then started selling "expansion packs" for their now incomplete modelers (Metal Shop anyone?)
@@serpentsbane9166 My version does not have a USB... It only has midi and a network cable for the old foot-switch extension that had I think 4 buttons on it.
From a guitarist prospect I would go for third party IR. I think it helped those riffs to cut through the mix and notes were more pronounced.
I think we are all progressing into identifying ourselves with specific ir's these days for studio work.
That does sound a lot better, clearer. There is something to be said for bedroom tones. They can be used for recording, just not in the way you think. Have the bedroom tones run to headphones or monitors for guitarist consumption and the recorded tones on another track.
One thought i had, you might like some speaker sounds that are "honky" in normal e std tuning. The lower tuning might eliminate the annoying parts of that. Think 80s Marshall cabs, 70/80s i think were fairly common. Maybe some other commenters can help out there.
Are you thinking of the Marshall SC212 cab? Or a different one?
@metalprognosis stock standard 4x12. After some thought, look into what Orbit Culture is using, and what Volbeat used on some of their earlier albums. OC's tone doesn't always lend itself to single note clarity however.
@@metalprognosis One of my favorite videos of an old school setup with low tuning was Draven Noire's videos on using a JCM800, don't remember what cab he used, probably some Mesa cab... I think Ola Englund also got some great tones in his videos using a JCM800 as well, with a Marshall cab (not sure what model, possibly the matching JCM800 cabinet, but he swapped the original speakers for Greenbacks in one of his videos) I think he played a 7-string in Drop-A for a Rig of the Week a while back, although he mainly uses D standard and Drop C for his videos now.. (not low by modern standards but still sounds heavy!) \m/