2023 OLYMPIA PODCAST ALL STAR LINEUP: DORIAN YATES, VINCE TALYOR, ROELLY WINKLAAR AND MORE
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- DORIAN YATES, VINCE TALYOR, PAUL DILLETT, ROELLY WINKLAAR, MILOS SARCEV, CHRIS CORMIER, CHRIS LEWIS, JOHN HNATYSCHAK & OLYMPIA OWNER JAKE WOOD JOINS DENNIS JAMES ON THIS SPECIAL 2023 OLYMPIA EPISODE OF THE MENACE PODCAST.
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Man I love Dorian being straight up and not being super restrained like most of the guys are
Restrained or stuped?
Once interviewed by Palumbo he denied the Holocaust ever happening and Dave could not convince him otherwise. It’s no surprise at all that once he’s made his mind up, it’s made.
@@BoratioPalumbo didn't prove anything, he was just playing the victim card
@@krystofodehnal9448 He referenced the photos of thousand of piled courpses lol
@@krystofodehnal9448 lol U must be rtarded like Dorian
So cool seeing Dorian at the Olympia. I hope he comes out more often.
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
Milos is very passive aggressive and Dorian is a straight shooter. 🔥
I can listen to Dorian all day… my favorite all time bodybuilder by far.
Yup 👍🏻💯💯💯
He act had a brain, and a set of balls, unlike most ppl, hadi clearly won the show, and im a nick walker fan lol
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
@@Ruth1T0ne out of all of he guys sitting up there, dorian is lit the only guy I would trust to get feedback or information from, I dont think any of the guys sitting with him, would have the balls to say the right thing on certain topics, dorian lit has a no b.s call it how it is truth to him,
@@Ruth1T0neBecause you have no choice, because he thinks his opinion is only one that matters.
This is one of the best bodybuilding podcasts I've heard in a long time. What a line up. Dorian is the man. Straight forward.
Fuck yeah.
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
Dorian has a good eye and tells it like it is. Great panel.
Dorian always blunt as a spoon have to appreciate that.
How much do we think the HORRIBLE lighting and that stupid board behind the athletes played a part?
Why aren’t more talking about this?
@@Richiefitnessbecause no one wants to get black listed by the mr Olympia
Agree. Lighting was horrible, at least through the TV. Everyone looked soft.
Def plays a role
You bring up a perfect point. When they show from the side, it was clearer. Straight on lighting is not right
Damn, Dillett was only 265 pounds at 6'3, that's insane, he looked 40-50 pounds heavier. I remember my first bodybuilding VHS, it was the Olympia 93', and I was freaked out by seeing Yates and Dillett. What an awesome time the 90s was for bodybuilding! Those line-ups were legendary! As Milos would say #BODYBUILDING
I mean even 265lbs, at 3-4% bodyfat, is still HUGE, that prob means he weighs over 300lbs, walking around normally, I kinda agree though, I fig he weighed 280-285 or more bc of his heigth
Samething goes for flex wheeler, he was much lighter then he looked
Dillet competed up to 285....but in his early 90s prime when he was shredded he was 270 plus minus 5lb
In all fairness, if he had a proper back he would have been 10-15lbs heavier, also he was 187cm which is 6'1 1/2, not 6'3". Moreoever, I assume modern drugs have a higher density than "classical" muscle mass...without insulin and SEOs, you lose probably 15-20lbs while not really looking all that much bigger or fuller because of the conditioning and separation problem. Look at Krizo for example, he was barely 270 at the Mr.O according to his interview with Ron Harris, who was shocked at his weight, expecting him to be 290 or something like that and Kirzo clearly uses a 90s style philosophy to drugs and training.
If you're 280+ and not some god tier freak, most of that mass ends up looking dirty and less imprressive than you'd expect, usually off proprtions and symmetry as well. Ronnie and Günter were the only guys that instantly come to mind that actually rocked the 300lbs look, most people shouldn't look at the scale to decide if they're big and both of them were on the taller side for bodybuilders too.
@@gameurai5701 according to Dillet himself, he says he's close to 6'3 but lied about his height back when he competed
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Dorian says as he sees it and is on point in observation
Well I said lit the exact same thing, and most ppl say I'm crazy, hadi won fairly easy, and I'm a nick fan...
Nawl. He's hating.
@@flyingspacerock8968 glazing
@@flyingspacerock8968he is saying the truth
Totally agree with Dorian
Me too 😜
Long live yoga master:
Downward Facing Dog
Child's Pose
Bhujangasana
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Dorian is the only one who can beat Milos in a debate.
I wish Dorian would do more content with Milos because it’s just amazing entertainment.
Let's say beat each other.
";-)
lol...how exactly did he beat me in a debate?
What did he say that he was right and I was wrong?
Extremely curious.
🤔
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPageabout Samson gut, etc.. he had gut, there are videos
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPage you lost the debate to Dorian in a number of ways… first Dorian said what everyone thinks he doesn’t look as big as everyone says he is - he weighs 60lbs more than Lee Haney, but isn’t in the same World as Lee, and isn’t the same universe as Ronnie.
Second, his legs are huge, but his upper body doesn’t match. You always say “take away Derek’s back”, but because Sampson has no back every pose he looks worse because the back is showing in some respect in every pose = too many gaps.
Third, you’re an aesthetic guy so you are blind to the fact how much condition makes people look so much better. You would have picked Flex, Kevin, or Shawn Ray over Dorian = you are insane and don’t understand bodybuilding.
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPageHe didn't beat you. Dorian who I always admired, has become very aggressive, to the point of belligerent when expressing HIS opinion.
Doran yates was speaking facts here
Facts 🙄
Samson looks 250?
His left side?
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPagehe looks 260.. not 300
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPage I wouldn't say 260 but at least on video and photo comparisons he doesn't appear as freaky standing next to hadi and Derek as Ronnie and some people like him (Gunther, Dillet) appeared when they stood next to their competition.
Now you could argue that bb-ers were smaller back in, in general, therefore a huge guy would appear freakier but Hadi and Derek aren't crazy big. For their height? yes, but they're still really short which limits them
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPage
Does he look bigger than the 247 1998 Coleman ? Or the 255 Ronnie of 1999? Absolutely not. What about dillet ? Does he look bigger ? No. Based on that you could absolutely say he looks 250 Yates point is valid.
@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPage in photos and videos, he doesn't look bigger than the derek and hadi. Yea he looks like he's around 260 to 265 max. He definitely doesn't look like he's 300 pounds but we're looking at a video
Dorian Yates is the GOAT!!!
He REALLY is!
In terms of physique imo its ronnie, but dorian for me is def up there, not only for his physique, but his knowledge, and says it how it is
Well, he sure thinks he is.
@@monkeyman41333 you keep commenting hating on Dorian. Why?
@@Ruth1T0nedorian probably stole his gf back in the days lmao
Dorian was spot on on his analysis. Dorian is a no BS guy and he has 6 Mr Olympia Sandow trophies to back it up.
Dennis James have set a new standard for bodybuilding podcast i'll pay to listen to those legends than watching the competitor on stage
When Dorian speaks , you listen.
Please get Dorian on as a regular!
The biggest rubbish is the stage with the flickering lights in the background. Apparently the organizers don't care about last year's criticism. Why r they dont talk about it?
I love and respect Milos so much...BUT...dude c'mon, he was like a broken record re-explaining to an entire panel that was not going to agree with him about how Samson was going to win.😂😂😂
agree
Dorians honesty is brilliant.
Dorian is a great guy. No BS individual. Gotta respect that. Thanks Shadow. 👍👍
Milos always talks about why is conditioning weighed more heavily. In my opinion, it should be. It is the variable that is most controllable. The others are much more genetic.
100%
How cool it was to be a fly on the wall during this episode!!! Dennis apologized a bit for “slowing “ the show down but I loved every bit of it! Seeing Dorian, Vince , Paul and John again. Was a family reunion !
I was standing outside the booth while they filmed. They all signed my pumping iron book and they all are very nice gentleman. I have new found respect for every legend on this show.
Milos does not give up on Samson!! Love it
This was the BEST bodybuilding podcast of all time!
GOATs and Legends.
Wow I can’t believe they made this happen. This is a bodybuilding fans dream come true.
So cool to see Paul Dillet with the guys!!!
Agreed
Would have liked to add jay cutler to this group …. He speaks well, and very unbiased
Hadi won the competition. I had seen it all along that they wanted Derek to win - their golden boy. Dorian always gives it straight up. Hadi beat Derek in all poses except from the back Double biceps. Good for Doran for having the balls to speak up. What an injustice to take the title away from Hadi. They wanted Derek all along to win for his is his a better ambassador but its not a job interview.
I think that Hadi was better as well. However, I think that front double bicep was clearly won by Derek because of its waist and maybe back lat spread as well.
@@alexandruturza7131 def not the front went to Hadi.
They robbed him because they wanted the golden American good boy to win poor hadi
💯 I like Derek a lot, but what’s right is right. I have viewed the show more than a few times now, and I believe it was close, but it looks like Hadi did enough to have the edge to retain his title.
I believe another problem that is confusing even the highly experienced bodybuilders is, the way the judges are changing their criteria and what they are rewarding from year to year. It seems they are not consistent with their standards.
Man, Dorian prospective on someone is honest as they come
He's right Samson doesn't look 300 when he turns around his back should look like a turtle shell ..wide as shit and detail every where ..
Loving this podcast 💪💚
And I've noticed that Samson had to squeeze harder then Derek and hadi for some reason ?
yea.. Samsons back looks smaller than those midgets back
Dorian is right. Last year the guys on stage looked like guest posing in the 90s
By far THIS is the best 2023 Olympia coverage and podcast!
When Dorian talks, we all listen and learn.
Great seeing Dillet.
I hope Samson and Andrew are the top 2 next year.
I loveddd watching this, thank you for getting Dorian on!
Great session. Dorian just to honest for the bodybuilding scene. Also great to see big Paul
Man Dorian is the man! Waited for jake wood to come and brought up the prize money for competitors 7th place and lower
What a great discussion with an all star panel 💯
Wonderful podcaste the best out there in bodybuilding 💯👍☮️🥇
Amazing Gathering here
Gotta love Dorian!! Roelly is such a nice laid back guy, he's always like, "yeah, whatever" 🤣
I was waiting for this one DJ. All the legends and finally Big Paul Dillet & Vince Taylor🎉
Dorian is always right
Except when he is not...
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPage you have no word , it means nothing 👎🏼 L
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPageWell, Samson was third so he was right after all 😅
And he makes sure you know it.
Dorian was on point Sampson has the Mr. Olympia look he needs more on top. He will be Mr. Olympia but not right now.
Fantastic old school roundtable, love it! #80sand90srule!
This is quality, great stuff Dennis
Man Vince looks amazing, would never tell he is 68.
Great to see all these 90's legends on the podcast👍🏻👍🏻💪 the 90's era the greatest. It was crazy how big Paul was looking back.
Love the way fans are watching them
Everyone complains about the lighting but 80 percent of the lighting is permanent lighting at the show, you can’t fix that easily
The background noise destroys this 😡
Amazing podcast you are legends
Dorian and Milos debating is the best .....Dorian is spot ...calls it as Samson 3rd but says he has a Mr Olympia look ...BUT needs 6lb + more on upper body ....back delts shoulders arms . .....milos is also spot on....samson has best physique up there in top 3 . Samson does have bit of distension as Dorian pointed out ....plus condition is not quite there yet .....best episode yet ....Paul.. vince ...all great
Great Roundtable, Dennis.
Legends
Great great show gentlemen thankyou brilliant to see you all around the table -legends❤
Thank You Dennis! Epic group of old school greats!!! Soooo awesome to watch💯💯💯👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼I grew up watching these guys when I first got into bodybuilding back in the mid 90’s💪🏼💪🏼✊🏻
Wow Vince Taylor looks fantastic! I met him in 2001 at Arnold and he was so polite and friendly!
His face looks about the same from 1991...
Wow!! Great to see and hear Dorian's words of wisdom. Be very interesting to hear his take on this Olympia
LOL LOVE DORIAN!! the thing is dorian can diss these guys because he came in granite hard.
awesome dudes
Dorian disappointed with the condition last year😂 Fun to hear Milos and dorian speak their minds
I felt like the stage background was black in color, so Hadi and Derek really popped. Samson kind of blended with the dark background.
This is awesome pure legends
Great show and even greater guests
Dorian is a genius in bodybuilding and can see details from the big picture entertainment value and down to a microscopic level of muscle details
Dorian and Milos are always at each other’s throats
Great drama!
And Dorian always makes Milo’s look like an idiot.
@@lowbodyfat6707 at least Milos doesn't deny the Holocaust.
@@lowbodyfat6707 oh yeah...for sure...😜
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPage Po mom mišljenju, malo poboljšati Samsonove bicepse i leđa, trebao bi također biti 5-10% (max.) "oštriji" i to bi trebalo biti 1. mjesto. Kakva god mi mišljenja imali, sudci će i dalje po svome... conditioning je i dalje bitan koliko vidimo
Sve najbolje! 💪🏼❤
Outstanding podcast! Thanks guys!
DY 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 #Legend.
real good podcast
Awesome podcast, one of the best.
Great podcast! Gotta love Dorian.
Awesome panel. Well done 🎉
All right ! look at those legends !
Awsome stuff
Great great show Gents ❤
As great as Milos is and credible when it comes to bodybuilding discussions, he is a bit too bias. Of course a coach is supposed to look out for their athletes, you still need to speak the facts and keep the emotions out.
I agree with Dorian.
If you guys UNDERSTAND judging...
There were 9 judges
2 high and 2 low scores are being erased and middle 5 count.
Samson got 13 points at the prejudging which means 5 judges saw him 3rd and 4 judges saw him 2nd 9out of which 2 might even saw him as a winner - but their first place votes would have been erased).
So, a delusional, emotional, and not-so-credible coach might NOT be the only one saying that Samson had legitimate chances against Hadi and Derek...basically HALF of the qualified judging panel (4 out of 9 judges saw him beating one of them)...
Non of you can handle the facts....yet all of you want to point finger at me and say stupid shit like that...
Oh well...Knock yourself out...
@@MilosSarcevOfficialCZcamsPage I love you as coach, historian and your passion for bodybuilding! Growning up, you were one of the guys I like and now, I love you in a sport that lack insight and detail views such as yours. However, we can at least agree to disagree.
Yes. You are being logical or as objective as it may sound from the scoring. However, it is a subjective sport. Furthermore, I do not believe what the judges say. Aside from that, I love Samson too! Base on Dorian's comments, I agree. He does need some more back and maybe the rest of his upper body but at least the back.
Now, I agree with you 100% on the that if Hadi did not win that the next guy to give it to should be Samson!
PS-I disagree with you on your statement that there are no politics in bodybuilding. I think I heard you say that on the Jay Cutler Show. Unless you were joking and I took it for a serious tone, this year was political to me. We all know they have been pushing Derek to be the face. Even when he won the 212 or they gave it to him it was political to me. Eventhough, Saun looked tighter the year prior, he came with more size and had a more complete physique. 2007, 1980 and 1981 Mr. Os were political AF Milos.
Thank you for interaction with us!
Dennis that was the best podcast EVER!!!
PAUL "FREAKENSTEIN " DILLET, VINCE"THE TERMINATOR" TAYLOR, DORIAN"THA SHADOW" YATES, WOW!!! 🤯🤯🤯
We only needed Kevin Levrone and Flex Wheeler to complete the dream team of bodybuilding and podcast. Thank you very,very much Dennis for this AWESOME podcast!
Next time let Dorian and Milos go into a scuffle so you can sell it as a ppv event also, I'll pay for it 😅
If you could do a podcast with Paul Dillet it would be badass.
Thank you.
real!!!
Haha..totally agree what you said for Milos and Dorian..😂..I would gladly pay to see that too, just take my money 😅
This is amazing ✨😎💪🏼
Awesome video
Why not playing the sound straight from the mix desk to avoid all the background noise ? Especially as they are all equipped with top gear (shure mics and so on). Great podcast though great energy :)
Real life baki character...Paul dillett! Also rare as to see on youtube
Roley cracking up when Dorian yates says “they’re just not in shape!” 😂😂😂
I loved it, all the guys I followed as a kid! Glad they're all still alive!
I couldn't believe that was Paul when he walked in, the last time I saw him he was 100lbs heavier!
Having Milos on the podcast comparing "his" athlete to others is hilarious...an unbiased panel is better...John and Dorian seem to be the best critics...also, Samson was less conditioned than both overall...Samson is dangerous and I see Derek, Nick, Samson, and Andrew to battle for the next 3-4 years
This is the best podcast i ever seen, with all my Idols from the 90ties!❤❤❤
That was fun !
This is the best one by far❤
More like this man. The comradery and surprise visits were brilliant. An authentic show
Hadi is not just being judged on the body which should be the whole point of the competition but seems like the champ has to fit into other criteria set up by the top board. Things like how well does it fit into be an ambassador to increase their goals and so forth. Its not just bodybuilding. The ambassador at the pinaccle of the Mr O industry sport organization is undeniably Chris Bumpstead at the moment. Perhaps the classic category should be at the pinnacle to better represent the bodybuilding values and reach out even further.
Yo what’s up everyone… DY is on the floor 💪💪
Awesum
Great show
the best collab ever to date
Dorian predicted it right: Samson 3rd!
John won the 1984 middle National and Universe. He was one of the few guys who had an 8 pack. John gad great symmetry.
I saw him a few years ago at the Southern States in South Florida. He had some big ass calves to me. They had to be at least 20”.
Brilliant
Milos will dance around the issue, use a lot of words but not say anything. Dorian as usual cuts to the chase lol.
6:39 looks 250 😂
Made me laugh
well hes not wrong. Samson size is around what they used to be back in the day just with fck all conditioned. guys like levrone would destroy him out of the park. a lot of the 'size' he has is just water.
He's not wrong...
Great that watched the whole thing👌🏼😁Gotta love the back & forth with Dorian & Milos😂 They disagree on a few things but clearly have respect for one another.
Love to see a roundtable consisting of Shawn Ray, Dorian Yates, Bob Chic, Dave Polumbu, Lee Priest, Milos Sarcev & Wayne Demelia. The dynamics would be very entertaining and all intelligent sharp shooters.
I love samson, milos and dorian haha what a great podcast