Matthew Sharpe They have definitely gone up in price, no doubt. But I wouldn't say madly. There still isn't any competition at a price point between Hyundai and Kia. I have just kinda imagined it would be like choosing a Mercury or a Ford. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they are bad cars and I'm aware of the strides in quality the Koreans have made. But I'm also a firm believer in you get what you pay for comparatively speaking of course. Jmho
coffeeblak86 They're Kia owners with close to 300,000 miles on their vehicles. Cars are cars and almost all cars today are built pretty well. If something is going to fail, it's most likely going to fail on another vehicle as well..or something else will. Vehicle manufacturers use parts from hundreds of suppliers it's not like everything from Kia is from Kia and everything from Ford is from Ford. we need to get rid of this Hyundai and Kia stereotypes because the fact is they're built pretty damn well today. we need to get off the blogs and learn real-world experience
My grandpa bought a 2018 Cadenza in the limited trim. It is an amazing car! I have both rode in it and driven it. It rides and drives perfectly. My favorite features are the white nappa leather with front heated and cooled seats and rear heated seats, 360 degree camera, and the heads up display. I also like the active safety features and the blind spot monitoring + rear cross traffic alert. I know it will definetly be reliable, the 3.3 V6 is awesome. And you cant beat the warranty or bang for your buck. Kia has done it again with another stunning car!
A half second slower than the competition, and you will pay dearly in depreciation, but if you can get around that, a solid car option. See if you can get a low-mileage demo or used one in a year.
"Kia ranks highest in initial quality with a score of 83 PP100, the first time in 27 years that a non-premium brand has topped the rankings" -JD Powers
@Joe Blackner consumer reports and jd power is just advertising anyway. My grandfather owns one of these except it is a 2018 and a year later he has not had an issue. My other grandfather has a 2015, only issue was a wheel sensor that had to be replaced but it was a quick repair and done under the class leading 10 YEAR 100,000 MILE WARRANTY! They are reliable cars and the fact that they have a massive warranty proves they are confident in what they make.
@Joe Blackner I'm telling you why they are reliable and this isnt the 90s anymore. Kia is now almost at the top with Toyota, Consumer Reports bases themselves too much in the past.
Hyundai and Kia have come a long, long, way since their start. They started bad and got better. From 2010 on, Hyundai and Kia became serious where no one's laughing at them anymore. Nowadays, You can be seen driving them and not feel embarrassed. The Azera and Cadenza are two most underrated vehicles. Hyundai and Kia have built great cars and SUV's. There is not a weak link the group.
I loved my 2017 Gravity Blue SXL and wish I'd bought it out of its lease during COVID. I now have a 2020 ES 350 Luxury sedan that, while it's surely a more reliable and dependable bet for long-term ownership, doesn't match the solid feel of... yes, a Kia.
I hope Kia doesn't launch a separate brand like what Hyundai did with Genesis Motors. I just want to see the Kia badge rise from what once was a brand known for being a cheaper version of a Hyundai, which is an overall crap box, to Honda and Toyota alternative in the 2010's, and in the near future, a brand that will sit proudly next to the likes of Volkswagen and Volvo in terms of quality and desirability.
Have the '14 model. Its a very nice car inside and out especially for tall people. Never had a mechanical problem or a recall. I still have a concierge service for roadside assistance. I only wish it was more sporty.
I'm a very big MotorWeek fan however I continue to notice the biggest issue with your acceleration testing with numbers that consistently drag behind every other publication... your test track namely the quarter mile and 0-60 test lanes are extremely worn with pavement that's almost glass like slick. It's almost impossible to get a great launch off the line with almost every vehicle spinning its tires just like this Cadenza. There is absolutely no way this car is this slow especially with a class average of around 6.4 seconds to sixty. I really think a repaving of your track would greatly improve the numbers for every vehicle you test. Otherwise, please continue to keep up the fantastic work.
When you're in a budget. Mercedes Benz C-Class - Alternative: Kia Optima SXL. Mercedes Benz E-Class - Alternative: Kia Cadenza SXL. Mercedes Benz S-Class - Alternative: Kia Quoris V8 Luxury.
@Joe Blackner yeah because of people like you that are still stuck back when Kia made crappy cars, as I have told you before, Kia is not crap anymore. Its 2019.
@Donovan Campbell yeah. My grandfather bought his 2018 limited, and I havent seen one other out on the road. I really hope they dont stop making them. Last year when we bought it, they had lots of them in stock. This year, it seems they only have one or two in stock. I hope this isnt the end. They need more advertising.
Eric Fortune it was a really cool SUV, most people don't even realize that Kia made some pretty incredible body on frame 4x4s. Maybe instead of making this new sedan between the K900 and Optima they could use the funds to take a shot at 4Runner and Jeep? Not a lot of real SUVs out there anymore!
The Borrego is still in production overseas as the Mojave. It was a good option at the time, but Kia pulled the plug on it here in the US because it didn’t sell anywhere near as well as the car-based options available. The tried-and-true 4x4 market for SUVs is clearly a niche market now, so if Kia was to bring out a model like that, they’d know that it won’t be the sales leader like it used to be in the 90’s and early 2000’s.
it actually seems like the perfect car for the middle class Americans... it has Unique Style and seems to do everything pretty well and look at that interior! but it's a shame that people don't want to purchase this because of the badge saying Kia....
I know right? between the Paint peeling off the stone guide walls, all the weeds and brush growing everywhere and the Dilapidated crumbling structure on the side it looks like it's ancient.
Drove the Korean version of this car for about a year. It may have been a 2015 so maybe they fixed many of the annoying issues. The infotainment system didn't have a clue as to what random meant, fuel economy was no where near what this one claims, I got about 16 average. The car was a slug and the front seats were horrible after about 45 minutes.
This is a new version from 2017-present. 2014-2016 was the old model you were referring to. Alot of that was fixed, I can tell you from first hand experience.
Call me crazy, but the Ford Taurus SHO is the best large sedan you can buy right now for the price. It can be had with similar amenities + the ecoboost v6 and awd for a mere $42k. I'm sure you can get a few discounts and dealer incentives and get a new one in the upper $30s. Not sure why anyone would get this over a Taurus, a Lexus ES, or Buick LaCross.
While the Taurus is certainly quick, it has many faults, such as a the driving experience (the car is too heavy, so adding suspension and braking components to compensate won’t exactly help), the front of the interior is still too cramped for most drivers, and it’s not the most quality of products you can find in this class. If you want outright speed in a straight line, then sure, the SHO will a fair amount of stoplight races, but honestly, you get what you pay for.
Swap out those stock Hankook tires for a set of Pirelli Cinturato A/S plus and this car will get off the line much quicker without all that wheelspin i'll bet. It will also ride much smoother and quieter.
Hyundai and KIA downgraded the hp across many engines including the 2.4. I suspect nothing changed, they were just scared of getting caught with optimistic numbers.
I have a 12yr old Kia minivan and it is awesome and has never, I mean never, let me down. I would have bought a Kia sedan but I did need all wheel drive and so I went to a Subaru. I have never regretted it but I do love the Kia
I'm surprised they didn't call it the gmk s63 amg rs87 like all the other companies now like Cadillac to compete with the Euro stuff. Give cars normal names!
I love it, loved the last one except for the corny grill, it has the looks now to compete with said cars(plus the Lexus 300/Infiniti M/Acura RLX), now that it's been updated the 900 needs the same update (especially since the Equus has been updated to the G90).
the best thing Kia did was hiring it's German car designer from Audi. I love the new German designed kias, but this one is a fail. looks like a freaking Buick. come on peter schreyer....redo this...make it German - not American.
I drove this car in city and on the highway , also I traveled on the backseat for 6 hours nonstop. If you are thinking to buy it, I am telling you it's not worth that money. Buy K5 optima but not this one. Hyundai azera is very nice car but not cadenza
Andy's Shop actually they were new version. Yes it was very specious but interior quality is not really better than optima/k5, it just like bigger k5. On the other hand the last version of hyundai azera/grandeur was vey comfortable and the ride quality was also great. Of course it's only my personal view
@@HBKiran I agree on the not worth $45k new for the top trim. What i did was I bought the mid trim (which is still pretty well equipped) used. I got a 2017 technology one year old and about 12k miles on it for $25500. New it would have been about $39800.
People are gonna hate on this because it's a Kia but it's actually a great car.
Kia's are great, well made, smart looking and still good value for money unlike Hyundai.
Matthew Sharpe Kia and Hyundai are the same company tho
Josh River yes but Hyundai have gotten madly overpriced where as kia are still good value.
Matthew Sharpe They have definitely gone up in price, no doubt. But I wouldn't say madly.
There still isn't any competition at a price point between Hyundai and Kia. I have just kinda imagined it would be like choosing a Mercury or a Ford. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they are bad cars and I'm aware of the strides in quality the Koreans have made. But I'm also a firm believer in you get what you pay for comparatively speaking of course.
Jmho
Kia’s are great cars, I had the pleasure to drive a V8 K900 for a few days in Northern Cali and it was a blast!
If you can get by the brand snobs, this isn't a bad choice.
Haters gonna hate; this thing is top-tier as far as entry level luxury brands go.
The Naked Argonian until you get 40k miles lol.
coffeeblak86 They're Kia owners with close to 300,000 miles on their vehicles. Cars are cars and almost all cars today are built pretty well. If something is going to fail, it's most likely going to fail on another vehicle as well..or something else will. Vehicle manufacturers use parts from hundreds of suppliers it's not like everything from Kia is from Kia and everything from Ford is from Ford. we need to get rid of this Hyundai and Kia stereotypes because the fact is they're built pretty damn well today. we need to get off the blogs and learn real-world experience
coffeeblak86 10year/100k miles warranty. It's 2017 by the way, not 1997. Just so you know...
@@coffeeblak86 my grandfather has more than that on his 2015 sorento, only issue was a wheel sensor that was replaced under their giant warranty
coffeeblak86 you’re so ignorant and know shit about cars!
In the beginning of the video he's standing next to an optima?
Kia Cadenza: Badge snobs not welcome.
kia is on a roll lately
@Joe Blackner is still just a Kia hater
Why is there Kia Optima on this review at first?
Kia Cadenza
Priced like a Mercedes Benz C-Class, with the features and equipment level like an E-Class, it has the size of an S-Class.
And 10X more reliable than all 3 😂
My grandpa bought a 2018 Cadenza in the limited trim. It is an amazing car! I have both rode in it and driven it. It rides and drives perfectly. My favorite features are the white nappa leather with front heated and cooled seats and rear heated seats, 360 degree camera, and the heads up display. I also like the active safety features and the blind spot monitoring + rear cross traffic alert. I know it will definetly be reliable, the 3.3 V6 is awesome. And you cant beat the warranty or bang for your buck. Kia has done it again with another stunning car!
great camera shots and nice music choices, the car looks impressive as well
If this car was sold in the Caribbean.. I'd definitely buy it instead of the Camry.
That was an Optima in the opening...
I'm liking the amber DRL's.
conceptcs me too. let's hope they don't try and make them illegal!
They are actually not DRLs, they are the parking lights and turn signals unless you get the base premium or live in Canada.
Perfect orchestra type music for this test
A half second slower than the competition, and you will pay dearly in depreciation, but if you can get around that, a solid car option. See if you can get a low-mileage demo or used one in a year.
"Kia ranks highest in initial quality with a score of 83 PP100, the first time in 27 years that a non-premium brand has topped the rankings"
-JD Powers
@Joe Blackner consumer reports and jd power is just advertising anyway. My grandfather owns one of these except it is a 2018 and a year later he has not had an issue. My other grandfather has a 2015, only issue was a wheel sensor that had to be replaced but it was a quick repair and done under the class leading 10 YEAR 100,000 MILE WARRANTY! They are reliable cars and the fact that they have a massive warranty proves they are confident in what they make.
@Joe Blackner I'm telling you why they are reliable and this isnt the 90s anymore. Kia is now almost at the top with Toyota, Consumer Reports bases themselves too much in the past.
@@andybub45 What relief. i was really worried about the reliability on these cars. I was deciding wether to get this a Hyundai Azera
@@oscarh.v4951 Azera isnt around anymore, the Kia had a far better value anyway.
Beautiful design and car
So they talk about the cadenza but they present an optima in the beginning?
The Cadenza is based in part on the Optima platform.
Hyundai and Kia have come a long, long, way since their start. They started bad and got better. From 2010 on, Hyundai and Kia became serious where no one's laughing at them anymore. Nowadays, You can be seen driving them and not feel embarrassed. The Azera and Cadenza are two most underrated vehicles. Hyundai and Kia have built great cars and SUV's. There is not a weak link the group.
Great looking car
I loved my 2017 Gravity Blue SXL and wish I'd bought it out of its lease during COVID. I now have a 2020 ES 350 Luxury sedan that, while it's surely a more reliable and dependable bet for long-term ownership, doesn't match the solid feel of... yes, a Kia.
I hope Kia doesn't launch a separate brand like what Hyundai did with Genesis Motors.
I just want to see the Kia badge rise from what once was a brand known for being a cheaper version of a Hyundai, which is an overall crap box, to Honda and Toyota alternative in the 2010's, and in the near future, a brand that will sit proudly next to the likes of Volkswagen and Volvo in terms of quality and desirability.
Drop the K900 - no one is buying them. Make the Cadenza the flagship. Add AWD and the 365 hp 3.3 twin turbo as options.
Principe Raphael yes this is so true. K900 has no place on the market
Right? A good car with no place to go...
Principe Raphael Make the K900 a Genesis
@@lordprotectorhaythamkenway6495 it is. The G90
Bingo
Have the '14 model. Its a very nice car inside and out especially for tall people. Never had a mechanical problem or a recall. I still have a concierge service for roadside assistance. I only wish it was more sporty.
I'm a very big MotorWeek fan however I continue to notice the biggest issue with your acceleration testing with numbers that consistently drag behind every other publication... your test track namely the quarter mile and 0-60 test lanes are extremely worn with pavement that's almost glass like slick. It's almost impossible to get a great launch off the line with almost every vehicle spinning its tires just like this Cadenza. There is absolutely no way this car is this slow especially with a class average of around 6.4 seconds to sixty. I really think a repaving of your track would greatly improve the numbers for every vehicle you test. Otherwise, please continue to keep up the fantastic work.
Damn nice car.
When you're in a budget.
Mercedes Benz C-Class - Alternative: Kia Optima SXL.
Mercedes Benz E-Class - Alternative: Kia Cadenza SXL.
Mercedes Benz S-Class - Alternative: Kia Quoris V8 Luxury.
And the Kias are more reliable than all of those.
looks great. priced right it will sell
@Joe Blackner yeah because of people like you that are still stuck back when Kia made crappy cars, as I have told you before, Kia is not crap anymore. Its 2019.
@Donovan Campbell yeah. My grandfather bought his 2018 limited, and I havent seen one other out on the road. I really hope they dont stop making them. Last year when we bought it, they had lots of them in stock. This year, it seems they only have one or two in stock. I hope this isnt the end. They need more advertising.
Would love to see Kia go back and make a new 4X4. The Borrego and original Sorento were awesome.
Eric Fortune it was a really cool SUV, most people don't even realize that Kia made some pretty incredible body on frame 4x4s. Maybe instead of making this new sedan between the K900 and Optima they could use the funds to take a shot at 4Runner and Jeep? Not a lot of real SUVs out there anymore!
The Borrego is still in production overseas as the Mojave. It was a good option at the time, but Kia pulled the plug on it here in the US because it didn’t sell anywhere near as well as the car-based options available. The tried-and-true 4x4 market for SUVs is clearly a niche market now, so if Kia was to bring out a model like that, they’d know that it won’t be the sales leader like it used to be in the 90’s and early 2000’s.
it actually seems like the perfect car for the middle class Americans... it has Unique Style and seems to do everything pretty well and look at that interior! but it's a shame that people don't want to purchase this because of the badge saying Kia....
CeeStyleDj not sure why it's a shame to drive a kia in the us...
Yeah.
Damn that's a huge moonroof.
Anyone notice the LED burned out on the drivers side headlamp?
Leds dont burn out
KIA needs a new emblem
Brian Bautista if you want new premium emblem you have to buy a Genesis.
coffeeblak86 I think Brian just means that the name plate needs to be updated in the styling of the logo to reflect the new era of Kia
Check out the aftermarket KDM flowing K emblems on eBay from Korea..looking very much like the L of Lexus..and very easily installed..
No. The Kia logo is beautiful
True
The only thing that kia needs is to adopt the K emblem that are sold after market.
Is that track abandoned?
I know right? between the Paint peeling off the stone guide walls, all the weeds and brush growing everywhere and the Dilapidated crumbling structure on the side it looks like it's ancient.
Did Kia fix the early death of the A/C
Drove the Korean version of this car for about a year. It may have been a 2015 so maybe they fixed many of the annoying issues. The infotainment system didn't have a clue as to what random meant, fuel economy was no where near what this one claims, I got about 16 average. The car was a slug and the front seats were horrible after about 45 minutes.
This is a new version from 2017-present. 2014-2016 was the old model you were referring to. Alot of that was fixed, I can tell you from first hand experience.
First one, is Kia OPtima
Every time I see a Camry of that generation on the road, all I can think of is the auto stop barrier. lawl
Call me crazy, but the Ford Taurus SHO is the best large sedan you can buy right now for the price. It can be had with similar amenities + the ecoboost v6 and awd for a mere $42k. I'm sure you can get a few discounts and dealer incentives and get a new one in the upper $30s. Not sure why anyone would get this over a Taurus, a Lexus ES, or Buick LaCross.
I would never ever by a Ford cuz they're junk.
While the Taurus is certainly quick, it has many faults, such as a the driving experience (the car is too heavy, so adding suspension and braking components to compensate won’t exactly help), the front of the interior is still too cramped for most drivers, and it’s not the most quality of products you can find in this class. If you want outright speed in a straight line, then sure, the SHO will a fair amount of stoplight races, but honestly, you get what you pay for.
I think it seems like an all-around pretty nice vehicle. Is this Kia's version of the Azera or Kia's version of The Genesis?
CeeStyleDj it's basically kia's version of the hyundai azera.
Azera cousin
Azera got discontinued last year, I really hope the Cadenza isnt next.
Swap out those stock Hankook tires for a set of Pirelli Cinturato A/S plus and this car will get off the line much quicker without all that wheelspin i'll bet. It will also ride much smoother and quieter.
Hyundai and KIA downgraded the hp across many engines including the 2.4. I suspect nothing changed, they were just scared of getting caught with optimistic numbers.
Yeah...this car needs all-wheel drive.
Not many people actually need all-wheel drive. Those who do, usually do not buy this kind of car, but a Jeep or something like it.
It would be nice, though, right? You would have so much more grip, and it would do better in the snow.
I have a 12yr old Kia minivan and it is awesome and has never, I mean never, let me down. I would have bought a Kia sedan but I did need all wheel drive and so I went to a Subaru. I have never regretted it but I do love the Kia
Want AWD with your Kia? Get a Sportage or Sorrento.
I find this car extremely handsome.
Alright Kia Cadenza
Looks like it was inspired by the last gen lexus ls
My 2015 Cadenza can do 0-60 in 6 flat, all day with zero wheel spin. Your track must have a layer of oil on it-
this car barely is quicker then my car with over 115 more hp.
"And off the start line, into the first corner is......Ricky Johnson, followed by Ron 'The Machine' Lechien and Bob 'the Hurricane' Hannah......."
I'm surprised they didn't call it the gmk s63 amg rs87 like all the other companies now like Cadillac to compete with the Euro stuff. Give cars normal names!
Lol if a German car company made this, it would be called the s8673hdnw792nzilsb
Maserati wants its grille back.
and the buick wants the rear end back.
whats your point?
Man, who ever was in charge of maintenance at that test strip really needed to be fired.
holy ford fusion batman
I love it, loved the last one except for the corny grill, it has the looks now to compete with said cars(plus the Lexus 300/Infiniti M/Acura RLX), now that it's been updated the 900 needs the same update (especially since the Equus has been updated to the G90).
Lovejazz01 don't hate on the hamster teeth grill! 🐹
K900, cadenza, ..... whoever is in charge of naming these things must be fired.
It's what makes them stand out. S class doesnt sound better
You should be fired for being without a brain
Grate care ever made
That cadenza looks just like an optima!
man they really need to update their logo... "K" badge would look so sexy in this car.
It should've been a RWD
Jamaican Stiggy They have a rear wheel drive sedan coming out
Actually, there are already is a RWD sedan before the Stinger, the flagship K900, but doesn’t sell that well.
"Impela"
Hamster cars. They all have hamster teeth!!! 😬🐹
Rawr
I swear y'all 0-to 60 time always be fucked up
You wouldn't do any better in the same conditions.
lfsracer79 like I said. they always fuck shit up
what a week car
week or weak? Either way, its a darn nice ride.
What happens after 7 days?
@@joshriver75 🤣😂
What a bad speller.
the best thing Kia did was hiring it's German car designer from Audi. I love the new German designed kias, but this one is a fail. looks like a freaking Buick. come on peter schreyer....redo this...make it German - not American.
Well to be fair.. The final design was selected from California. 😅
We dont want the unreliability associated with the German cars lol. That's another thing that makes Kia stand out, the amazing reliability.
God this is crass and tacky. Like as much depth as a Spanish soap opera plot line.
It's hardly tacky.
Too expensive for a kia
Wtf are you talking about? 😂 it's got about the same amount of features as a comparably equipped lexus es and costs alot less.
I drove this car in city and on the highway , also I traveled on the backseat for 6 hours nonstop. If you are thinking to buy it, I am telling you it's not worth that money. Buy K5 optima but not this one. Hyundai azera is very nice car but not cadenza
You must have been in the old version. The new version has so much seat leg room and head room, and the seats are so nice!
Andy's Shop actually they were new version. Yes it was very specious but interior quality is not really better than optima/k5, it just like bigger k5. On the other hand the last version of hyundai azera/grandeur was vey comfortable and the ride quality was also great.
Of course it's only my personal view
@@HBKiran I agree on the not worth $45k new for the top trim. What i did was I bought the mid trim (which is still pretty well equipped) used. I got a 2017 technology one year old and about 12k miles on it for $25500. New it would have been about $39800.