The Moment Joker Became Joker (Telltale Series)
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Gamer's Little Playground oh, get the villain side of joker when Bruce and joker fought. I was torn up after Bruce said “John” twisted the relationship into something ugly. Plus that fight was brutal.
@@WingZX1103 yeah i was so sad when they fought with each other
Thanks brother
@Wint ZX1103, you asked for it so we did it!
@@glp i saw that. I really liked telltales take on batman and joker
Are we just going to ignore the fact that all chemical factories in Gotham seem to keep their chemical containers open
@Dan Backslide yea and maybe they should start doing something about it
OSHA is not pleased
I mean.. the only people that are supposed to be in there are trained professionals
@@__655 Yea but keeping them open is a big security risk especially with a city full of super criminals and chemical accidents all the time
I'm pretty sure he just fell in contaminated water near Ace Chemicals in The Killing Joke. Idk why it has been changed over the years
I think this is the first time I witness someone ACTUALLY pick answers that make sense
Not like it matters.
Eh, some of them I would change, but yeah fine.
I pick the answers I think Batman would say himself.
@@Legoiest Same.
Exactly
Why isn't “hug him” an option
*WHY ISN’T HUG HIM AN OPTION*
Cri Lune because that nigga would probably shank him after 😂😂
Better KISS option.
Because he's fucking insane you dolt
@@largelump3613 Im sure he wouldnt stab him.He is crazy but Bruce his is friend!
Cri Lune
Pun intended: Because he's a *Backstaber*
Literally
"I've seen a lot of really AWFUL people since i've left arkham, but you? you're the worst. And you're gonna get what you deserve"
sounds oddly familiar
Key Bre3ze How about a joke, Ray?
''What do you get.. When you cross a MENTALLY ILL LONER, WHEN A SOCIETY THAT ABANDONS HIME AND TREATS HIM LIKE TRASH! I know what you get. YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE!.''
Very good adaptation from the movie!
@@darlalathan6143 this was made before the movie
a better ‘Suicide Squad’ story than the _actual_ Suicide Squad movie...
“Joker will never forget this”
This honestly broke my heart when I first played it.
I just got done playing s2 and I actually cried when that showed up. Such an emotional roller coaster, I really wanted the best for Joker.
@@nicoww9182 Well congrats you did get the nicest joker possible and if you quitted as batman Bruce will take a visit to John.
That's the exact route I got, just through my own choices. Seeing Bruce visit John made me lose it even more. I just love their relationship so much.
@@nicoww9182 Upsetting John is almost as upsetting a puppy. I can't do it.
I saw a different video where they literally put warnings for John getting treated badly because it's so upsetting to see him get upset. Glad I'm not the only one who feels it lol. He's a really good character.
"Joker will never forget this" gave me chills
How?
@@AlenoraQ I believe it's the use of the word "NEVER".
@@AlenoraQ and I think it's the first instance of it not saying "John"
No it didnt
I love how John is a blank slate at the beginning of all this. No name, no memories, just a man in search of meaning. Your choices shape who he becomes. Not only is that brilliant due to the nature of the game (where your choices make the game), but also perfectly coincides with the dynamic of Batman and Joker.
Your choices doesn't really have an effect on the game
Frengky Giovany the entire last episode of this game is different depending on your choices
@@willvermillion1025 So one choice affects the game.
Big Ounce I didn’t say that read again
will vermillion You definitely said that
5:16 "You aren't listening, you're never listening" - "You just ask the same questions every week; "How's your job? Are you having any negative thoughts?" All I have are negative thoughts."
exactly what i thought 😳 lmao
“Everyone has a story and they just want to be heard” Gotham riddler
That part made me feel really sad. I can understand never being truly understood. Just being lied to and used
Batman did listen! It's Joker who isn't listening! Batman told him over and over and OVER that heroes don't kill!
@@skyfaller3d417 I was just referencing the movie "Joker".
Batman’s face at 8:53 is heartbreaking. He never expected to get attached to John, but he did, and in doing so pushed a mentally ill man over the line.
yeah
This is a REALLY underrated Joker actor
Agreed. I would've liked to see him in more
His name is Anthony Ingruber
He got like a full season though.
@Mitchell Movie Productions No, I didn't say it was wrong. I wasn't even talking to you in my reply.
Better than Leto and Cameron mon
"You are one messed up guy." Coming from the Joker, in combinaton with feelings of sympathy/friendship, this seriously means something then :/
That's because Joker knew he was messed up in the head, and only one who's messed up like him would consider him as friend, but he is mostly a cool guy pretty much the whole game until the last 2 episodes when he goes full blown insane
@@notyourdaddude1957 Wait, when does he go insane?? When is that?
@@mr.incognitoyt2235
you are looking at it. This video. He snapped.
that will always be the thing about joker and why he's obsessed with batman. He realizes this is someone who had that "one bad day" and is def someone messed up, but why did he choose such a different path than he himself did?
Poor guy just admired Batman and wanted to be buddies. Maybe he lacked a father figure growing up.
Yeah but in this case he probably had no friends.
You want to know how I got this scar
You mean the "why so serious" guy
I found this take on The Joker interesting. Bob Kane and Bill Finger(original creators of Batman) never gave The Joker an origin story even though he appears in Batman #1. The most agreed upon origin story for The Joker is by Alan Moore in his "Batman: The Killing Joke" graphic novel. Awesome read by the way.
Like in The Incredibles
the fact that bruce decided to visit john warms my heart.
That might be Hush.
Its kinda a mixed bag, I mean 5 minutes before that scene we saw him brutally murder 3 people, which is against one of the only codes batman stands for. Idk I get hes visiting him as a friend but one way or another hes still BATMAN, and that's still a man before him who has directly conflicted with everything hes stood for. That's the life and identity Bruce chose
@@fluffynator6222 exactly what I thought. It would be cool if it was.
@@jamushamus2504 unless u pick to give up batman
Well u know who'll be in the cell right after that hahaha
9:09 when that Minecraft water sound played
I felt it
YES IT IS I HEARD IT TOO
did telltale re use that from minecraft story mode or its just me
@@ian_r1272 nah they definitely did.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@ultrabigfella i think telltale at this time is already running out of budget/resource
I've always liked the idea that whatever made Joker's skin pale and hair green also basically deadened the nerves in his body or just gave him an insanely high tolerance or pain and a mild healing factor. So it makes him able to take a TON of punishment and always heal right back after a few weeks.
That’s actually how it is in the comics, he has this fluid in his spine that pretty much makes him more unresponsive to pain than others
Wait don’t we find that out from Batman: Endgame and isn’t that from New 52 which is now a different universe???
A fair theory would be he simply doesn't care about the pain. I mean the guy gets punched in the face and just keeps on laughing. Normally, even if you can take the pain, you'd still be in shock by the punch itself. And from batman, your bells would be a ringing.
Joker just doesn't care.
He doesn’t have healing factor
In the post Credit scene in The asylum his hand is completally healed
11:20 one of the many classic joker laughs.
Ikr, very Hamill like.
The Joker 2019: A story about a very depressed man living in the society.
The Joker from TellTale: *Yo, I was in love with Mr.Wayne, and did not said "No homo"*
Jason Blundell The Game acknowledged it, Bruce acknowledged it, the fandom acknowledged it.
@@WingZX1103 and it's kind of sad. But as one great man said: "It says a lot about our society"
FOG ROLLING IN
@Spider Light That's ok. My bad. But to be sure - Correct me if I'm wrong, - I think "No homo" situation works like this: you are having sex with a man. It's going good and etc. But then, after you finished you business, you understand that you've forgotten to say "No homo" and now you're gay. Right?
@@rickycardenas5154No, like he said. As long as you say no homo afterwards, you're fine
what I love about The Enemy Within is that it finally made a truly relatable Joker. Not on a borderline philosophical level of human relatability, but on a personal level of emotional or mental damage.
Yes he's deranged, but not for the sake of being so. This Joker doesn't just want to see the world burn, he just wanted a friend and was too mentally damaged to handle the rejection.
Personally, i really liked this Joker. He was so sweet and kind. I mean he did become an insane killer, it doesn't make me hate him. It made me feel so sorry for him for not being able to help out more. He felt like a good friend to me. So sad it had to go out like this :(
Same like it hurts so bad
The Moment When Alfred became "The Alfred"
I felt that
9:09 did they really just use a Minecraft water sound effect?
Rn Spurgn I thought I was the only one that heard that 😂
Heard that and immediately went to comment section
When I played this for the 1st time I was super invested in this scene until I heard that Minecraft splash ._.
Aidan D. Same
Rn Spurgn
They also made Minecraft Story Mode so... 😂
I like this origin of the Joker. Whoever wrote for this game did a fantastic job. I enjoyed this as much as I did The Killing Joke.
How about Joker 2019
@@user-iy7jo7bq4f it sucks
Jack Napier is still the best joker in my opinion
@@redfather5342
Yet, those reviews...
Redfather it doesn’t but ok
That stuff Joker says about how you just say what he wants to hear to manipulate him into doing what you want...it hits so hard because that is exactly what you have been doing the whole game. Maybe you actually do care about him...but that's rough.
when i've heard "joker will never forget that" my heart broke
then when i saw john on his cell, looking at the picture, and then receiving a visit from bruce, it warmed my heart
Why he became joker?
He live in a society
Ooga booga society bad
We live in an ecosystem
Why he became joker?
So if telltale ever rises again they has excuses
FakeAmplitude society is bad
@@garenthal9638 it really is
Hearing Anthony Ingruber getting to truly let loose with those Joker laughs in this episode, on both paths, really sold him as the character for me!
His laugh is even on par with Hamill's
@@somerandolad Hamill
In my view, Anthony really knocked it out of the park as Joker and truly outshined everyone else in the game
It’s especially funny because batman was Definitely a good joker in Arkham origins. If you get what I’m saying
waaait Anthony Ingruber voiced the Joker in this game??? I've forgotten about him since he became viral for a short time as the
Harrison Ford look-a-like. This makes me happy that he has come so far to voice a really iconic character :) I hope He'll play the joker one day.
10:30 Batman: ~gets stabbed in back~
Also Batman: ~holds stomach~
To be fair, he did previously fall on a giant metal rod.
Tbh it would kinda hurt in your stomach
well most people kinda do it for some reason same for me. i guess its a habit or something
0:31 “-and you’re gonna get *what you deserve...*
Oh how relevant that quote is now...
“You’re gonna get what you fucking deserve!”
A quote, from something relevant.
*Arthur Fleck* : How about another joke, Murray?
*Murray Franklin* : No, I think we’ve had enough of your jokes.
*Arthur Fleck* : What do you get…
*Murray Franklin* : I don’t think so.
*Arthur Fleck* : …when you cross…
*Murray Franklin* : I think we’re done with the show. That’s it.
*Arthur Fleck* : …a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?!
*Murray Franklin* : Call the police, Gene. Call the police.
*Arthur Fleck* : I’ll tell you what you get! You get what you f**king deserve!
[ *suddenly Arthur shoots Murray in the head and the audience start running off in terror* ]
Bow down before the one you serve
@@SirenS550 congrats parrot.
Nohiro thanks. My owner says I’m a really good parrot. He brought me to watch Joker & man were my feathers fluttering ☺️
2:33
Batman: its not the superhero way, she must stand trial she must live
Joker: she’s too dangerous to be kept alive! She has control over the courts and the government!
Star Wars
Later" Batman: Its over joker! I have the High ground!
Joker: YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY INSANITY HAHAHAHA!
@@soony1319
you were my friend John... i loved you !
@@bartekszubert3083 I HATE YOU
Deathstroke: This is the way
i feel so bad for John in this game, he is my favourite character in this game
Everyone keeps telling me that THE Joker 2019 movie did it better. Haven't seen it yet . . . . .
@Jame Andy no ones falling for that
In what game again?
@@Zach135
Batman The Enemy Within
Same
One of the best versions of Joker in my book. This is how you make a sympathetic Joker without encouraging your audience to follow in his footsteps. The Joker movie was decent but this is a MUCH better sympathetic joker.
“The worst monsters are the ones we create”
Raise no more devil's than you can lay down.
8:43 It would’ve awesome if there was text that said, “John is dead.” right as he says that.
"Your relationship with Joker has changed"
I'm a HUGE Bat comic geek, and I'd say out of all mediums I've seen (shows, comics, cartoons), they really did an amazing job of making Joker a more sympathetic character.
And made the "lol me n u Batz are BOTH THE SAME AHAHHAHAHA" more believable here.
I actually feel seriously bad for joker this time batman MADE Joker
I mean... Batman made Joker in the comics too. - Batman: The Killing Joke-
Batman has always made the Joker, the Joker was his biggest mistake if he hadn't chased the dude he would've still been sane
At the same time, he can stop joker.
@@mememachine8820 1989 movie joker made batman
@@Johnny-nr2bg im referring to the good vigilante ending
13:54 I just noticed that the pictures are arranged as a clown face
8:37 In this moment I guess we all realized the birth of the Joker was inevitable.
12:50 was really difficult to watch
I was so emotionally drained playing Season 2 of this game. I thought I had it under control even in his vigilante route but at the end I was the reason he became Joker. However I was glad Bruce went to visit him in Arkham because at the end John wanted an identity. Just writing this makes me feel some type of way again, I really invested my time and energy into John and only for him to still become Joker in this game.
Honestly it’s nice to see in that universe the joker and Batman are friends even when joker was incarcerated
This game demonstrated just how much the Joker is a consequence of Batman, and vice versa.
Edit: holy cow thanks for all the likes everyone!
ahem Joker 2019
@@volosami wut about it
@@volosami Joker 2019 is a throwaway story and goes against so much of Joker's canon origins soo.... I mean... Enjoy the film but don't use it as any sort of argument because it has no grounds to stand on in regards to accuracy of the character Joker and furthermore his relationship with Batman. Joker didn't become Joker til Bruce was Batman and so the idea that Joker already existed when Bruce was just a boy is all sorts of incorrect.
Its a different interpatation(Don't care for that but you get the point).
@@TheLunablackheart did you really say canon origins and joker in the same sentence, and didnt include "doesnt have a"?
7:00 perfect landing
IKR LOL
A 😂
Superhero landing!
That's really hard on your knees...
He’s literally Syndrome from the Incredibles
Literally
Syndrome is just the incredibles' joker
SPOILERS FOR WATCHMEN: the Incredibles are just a family friendly version of Watchmen. Syndrome is just Ozzymandias
@@LukeWayne1939 not really
Glaze Universa Gladis Joker is just DCs Syndrome
he's not dreaming about power and domination, he simply wants to have some fun.
love this guy
This is why vigilante route is better than villain route. This is a much better Joker than the one in villain path.
But then he's not a villain
I enjoy the villain one honestly. Just the first part where he breaks into Wayne tower showing how dangerous he is especially with his vendetta against you.
Dovakota
Joker is this one scene is more dangerous than he was the entire villain route. Look at how willing he was to kill Bruce compared to the dinner scene in the villain route.
@@joshuaagee-bass4049 idk I never felt the idea of a villain just trying to kill you as dangerous as a villain hellbent on torturing you and making life for you suck. I mean its the reason people love Eobard Thawne and Hunter Zolomon. Instea dof focusing on just killing the hero, everyone around them suffers.
The villain one was so underwhelming to me. There was barely anything unique or special about him, other than that he often felt like he was playing second fiddle to Harley.
8:45 OMG that maniac laughter. Congrats for the voice actor!!!
When I played through it, I chose to say he was never my friend, because of what Joker says in response.
"Fine... Enemies it is," then he just laughs. That line and that laugh sent chills down my spine.
Then while in Arkham and sad, he sees Batman and is filled with that classic love/hate feeling
It's the most comic accurate ending if you ask me.
(Reads title)
“Hmm... yes the floor seems to be made out of floor...”
Well, there was the Joker, someone who wanted to get recognized as an equal to Batman and fight for Justice. Then, there THE Joker. A man who was done playing nice. A man who was sick of society. A man who saw it all as one big joke. That is where the Joker became THE Joker.
Not really, The title make sense
I didn't realize a moment could be over 15 minutes long
So sad we will never get season 3.
I really loved Telltales take on the Dark Knight mythos.
RIP Telltale.
Telltale’s IP’s are bought by another company now and they include Batman and Wolf Among Us so another company now makes these games telltale style
Rest in peace telltale series
They're back.
There back babyyyy!!!
@@yer6105 really?!
Telltale did such a good job with this game. Ive been a batman fan for my whole life and found their take on Batman & the Joker's relationship to be so refreshing and creative. It really made for an incredibly enjoyable experience!
Woah, that's some GOOD writing right there. Joker in EVERY single form has always just been a man whos mind ain't right. And to see it play out this way? Emotional. Love it.
“The moment JOKER became JOKER”
*clapping sound effect plays*
that just means he was always Joker
He just needed to embrace that side of him just like every potrayal of joker is
It's so hard not to like this version of the Joker. Everyone I've seen sympathizes with him, he means well even though what he's doing is wrong. He is your friend.
Bro, this makes so much sense on their relationship. If this was in the comics, joker would actually have a reason to make Batman suffer for his justice code and Batman would have a reason to keep trying to help the joker without killing him.
This took their "relationship" to a whole new weird level that I'm not ready for 😅
Tae Campus das some kinky shit
It even ended with some penetration 😉
@@shuriken2505 das some scary shit 😔😆
@@taecampus
I meant Batman stabbing through Joker's hand
@@viktorthevictor6240 ahh yeah, gross and gross 😂😂
Even though John goes a little nuts on the Vigilante route, he at least recognizes he needs treatment and is on good terms with Bruce at the end (depending on your choices anyway). Compare that to the other route where he just becomes the standard Joker, and you see things could've been a lot worse.
A part of me really doesn't see the Asylum letting him out though even with meds and 'talking', but the ending with Bruce visiting him, I swear he looked a little sane when he laughed, with his typical insanity
Telltale gave such a compelling and unique spin on joker. Two very hard things to mix together
oh yeah cool
Lmao you don’t got to be a dick about it Kieran.
The fact that this all goes down in ACE Chemicals of all places aaaannd when John nearly falls into the chemicals, it makes you think the classic origin story is going to happen, but... no. Probably worse.
Edit: Woah thanks for the likes! 😎👍
John Doe has already went into Ace, in s1 ep1 the news talk about Ace Plant having an 'incident' where someone falls in.
@@itsanonagain3946 That wasn't a true confirmation
@@R.K.994 i know, but it's fun to think about.
@@itsanonagain3946 ye
He’s already mentally unwell and has pale skin and green hair, it’d be pointless to have him fall into chemicals now *cough* gotham *cough*
Holy shit, this joker has the best voice actor of all time!
Nah Mark Hamill will always be the best but this guy could definitely be a backup incase Mark retired.
@@TheShape--xt6pk He and Troy Baker could both be successors to Mark.
8:28
That escalated quickly....
Nayops 18 OMG 🤮
I think they took Willem Dafoe's face for Joker's reference.
i literally thought that as soon as i saw his plain face at the end through the hatch in the cell door
that's a solid Joker laugh tbh
When u realize when bat threw the batarang and joker blocked it when it went in the acid it was a Minecraft sound
lil comedy when you realize you stole this comment
@@justacampfire6605 tf u mean
I wonder how is the joker so physically strong: his body looks thin, but he takes punches, kicks, and headbutts without even sweating.
This version of the Joker is so underrated IMO.
"You are not listening.... you never listen"
I would’ve preferred these games as movies or a tv series rather than “decision” based games
I'm not into the Telltale games mainly because they're decision based games. It just slows everything down way too quick. An animated movie or series would've been a lot better.
Elias Manriquez agreed, the last good telltale game where decisions actually meant something (besides Walking Dead season 1 and 4 only) was Wolf Among Us
U kiddin? I'm glad that they are decision based. I'd like a series too, but I'm a gamer and sometimes when I watch good series I'm thinking "Man, I would love a Telltale game about this", but then I'm like "Then again this is og and I don't want to make choices that affect the story too much" so I'm glad that the Telltale games exist
Chief Bill not anymore they do, the studio got shut down a while ago and like I said earlier, the Walking Dead game and Wolf Among Us (also Tales from the Boarder Lands) were the only games where decisions effected anything
@@rnspurgn3015 lol, what? Batman Enemy Within's final episode is completely different based on your decisions. Plus, you don't seem to understand the concept behind Telltale's choices. It's not about changing the plot significantly, it's about changing the story, meaning the character interactions, development, relationships, context behind plot rest mostly on your decisions.
9:03
Are we just going to ignore how telltale used the minecraft water sound effect?
The way Bruce visits Jon at the end ❤
The title of this vid should be "The moment John Doe became the Joker"
leck allen Nope he was vigilante joker then he became villain joker
@@WooHesii I mean yeah but if this was the other playthrough it would be called that
Telltale really did this well in my opinion
We really enjoyed this Joker. Amazing writing and character development.
of course they did
one of my favourite Joker's
Wow if you think that you never read or watched The Killing Joke. This is a crap version of the Joker.
@@dorwinb1
it's my favourite version of the joker and nobody can change my mind
5:12 Arthur is that you?
Where?
@@campaignpapy3849 Him saying Bat's wasn't listening...similar to Arthur saying no one was listening or cared.
@@dankboys Arthur who
@@dankboys a lot of people are named Arthur
@@campaignpapy3849 I thought you understood the reference, my bad. Arthur Fleck from the Joker movie.
This is one of my favorite renditions of the Joker. They should put him into a comic book. I like how he's so almost naive and obsessed with Bruce.
Who is here after watching the Joker movie?
me
Me
Is there a way i can pay to watch it online or is it impossible? Please i need an answer
@@moayad80 there greedy they won't tell you
I didn't see it yet. How does it compare? Whenever there's a Joker ANYTHING, people compare the portrayal, and I always thought that this one right here was a bit underrated
9:09 minecraft water sound ?
Yes
It is
Lmao
Batman’s voice is ridiculously deep.
He has a voice changer in his helmet. In the game, Bruce Wayne’s steaming voice is much more normal sounding.
The vigilante path is waaay more tragic then the villian path because you do everything you can to prevent john from becoming the joker and in the end he still becomes a murderer
God, I just love his voice..AND HIS LAUGH IS FANTASTIC!
Aaah- why can‘t be there a show based on this wonderful well-written story.. it‘s a shame.😕
8:23 was the true moment he became Joker
This is unashamedly one of my favorite moments in all of Batman anything. Say what you will about the telltale games on the whole, they did Joker right.
you know
there's a lot of clowns that really show how scary they are just by their looking
but joker is different
he's scary because how mad he is..
and how anarchy he is
0:33 "and you are gonna get what you deserve"
Title: the MINUTE joker became joker
The video: 15 min long
He becomes Joker at 8:28 XD
*moment*
Telltale Joker and 2019 Joker both said the same thing
5:16
Oof moment.
holy cow you're right
What’s even more surprising is that this came first.
This was actually so sad to watch.
9:09 THE FREAKING MINECRAFT WATER SOUND BRUH.
Lmaooooooooooooo what the fuck
They used the same water sound from minecraft story mode that's why it sounds like that
David Alejandro Andrade Minecraft came before the story mode so what are you talking about.
@@oscara.delgado3275 because that is an actual reason for them to use a sound effect from minecraft.
@@oscara.delgado3275 But Telltale games made minecraft story mode and this game so they just were too lazy to find a new splash sound effect most likely.
Up there with Joaquin and also Cameron Monaghan from Gotham as the best Jokers of recent memory - John Doe deserves more attention
I love this orgin of joker alot I think this should be adapted in more media
that's one complicated friendship
I love how John actually cares about whether Batman is okay after the roof incident.
I don't know what hurts more, the amount of punches or the amount of emotional weight.
Man I'm glad that someone bought telltale so this game can continue
This is easily the best portrayal of the Joker out there.
In the beginning, John was just your run of the mill asylum inmate with a huge obsession with Bruce Wayne. When he met Bruce personally, his obsession with him grew. He always knew that being friends with Bruce was too good to be true, but he didn't care. He just hung on as long as it lasted. As the series went on he started to embrace the darkness inside him (aka The Enemy Within). In this scenario, the trust between Bruce and him along with knowing he was Batman led him to try and emulate him. In the end he cracked anyway, but despite his mental illness and everything he had done that night, Bruce acknowledged him as his best friend. John never actually thought Bruce would be crazy enough to see him as a friend but yeah.
In the end, true friendship always prevails despite anything that happens.
i agree
@@bartekszubert3083 Ikr
I never actually thought that Bruce really cared for John. Not as a friend at least. The guy had clearly serious issues. Bruce just wanted him to be cool, but not to be his friend. If he cared for him as a friend he wouldn't have used him to get in the pact and try to arrest him, bane and all the others. Saying that they are friends is just a lie or an hypocrite/fanboyish move. He still sends him to Arkham so how can he be his friend? It's better to either stay quite or say the truth in that moment and that is they were never friends. John was always a criminal and Bruce just used him to arrest the pact and joker himself. Like he says in that option he was a mean to an end.
@@thestrong2401 Bruce did use John, but it's up to the player whether or not Bruce actually comes to view him as a friend.
@@TheGboy55 exactly. Every choice the player has ever made in the game always leads to that final moment where Bruce can either confess that he truly viewed John as a friend, or confess that he was just a puppet.
13:10
I had such a hard time experiencing this. I knew who I was dealing with. I knew John Doe was no mere John Doe. There was only one way this could end, but I wanted so badly or that not to be true. John wasn't a bad guy. He was misled. John was a stray creature trying to find his way towards a destination he didn't know he was going and unfortunately that destination was Joker. His heart was in the right place but unfortunately the right place that keeps most of our hearts warm set his on fire and from the ashes arose the maniac with a fiery passion for blood. But along the way I couldn't help but care for this man. I was witnessing first hand his mind deteriorate into madness as the cards were stacked against him and I wanted to be there for him. I wanted to trust him. So in the end - in the culmination of everything we've been through together - after he's finally proven that he can't be helped and flourishes in his chaos, when he turns to me and asks if I truly thought of him as a friend and I say that I did and he stares me dead in the eye and tells me that I'm one messed up guy... what am I supposed to do?
5:16 "You don’t listen, do you? You just ask the same questions every week. 'How’s your job? Are you having any negative thoughts?' All I have are negative thoughts."
That deep laugh is amazing
"Eckhart! THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE! *gunshot*" -Batman 1989
At 9:10 they used a Minecraft sound