I'm curious on how you might handle a mule that completely shuts down when asked to do this kind of work. If he is let go freely to do round penning "join up" work he will do everything in his power to never be touched again after a few moments of work. I have a hunch he has learned that he can outlast a human and when he gets away with it he no longer trusts the humans leadership skills. But I've never had to deal with that type of reaction to this extreme. I've often had to resort to grain to get him near me and as soon as i lay a hand on him he is completely fine and will let me halter him with no issue.
Do you know his history? I have a mule like this. He was whipped to the point of scars on his back. I spent 2 years just earning his trust behind a roped off section in the round pen.
Did you watch the video? He explains his process in it. He was only focused on getting her right front to cross over and take a step in the right direction *at first*, then from there, directed her in a circle like a typical lunge would go. She isn't being taught to back away because he does not release while she's backing away, he's releasing when she steps her right front over. Then later, when she goes easy in the circle.
We have a 9yr old john mule that we recently bought. Loads , shod , but bolts when leading him. He acts like he wants to trust us but is just to leary, once we get him we brush him wrong move he gone. How is the best way to deal with this issue.
@@chelseabelcher5329 it can take 20 or 50 times it the same sacking as a horse to get the same level of trust. If you have little patience avoid mule training. Work from where he is that min. and don't fret, time is on your side, you can ride a wonderful mule for decades. Mules do much better if you relax and like them they can feel if you like them and are not tense, angry or fearful. A good mule is a Cadillac ride in rough country. Well worth time and love invested.
What would suggest about a mule that keeps backing up when you want him to stand or put his halter on? He just started this behavior last week out of the blue
I am sooo happy to have found your videos! I just got a 5 month old mini molly mule. Super friendly but no respect. I have horses and do alot of ground work with them. I am guessing because I dont know about mules, that I can do the same ground work with this weanling mule as I do with my horses? Can I add, I love your approach! The only other person I found on CZcams was waaaay too aggressive with his mules for my liking.
Chad & Emma Basan hello, if you have one that gets away, the best thing to do is work in a round pen or something where they can’t get too far. Then all you do is get them to hook on to you and then start with your ground work again. Repeat. Eventually they will see that being with you is much easier that being away.
He is teaching her to move her front end away from pressure. He will also teach her to move her rear end away from pressure. Put those two together and you have a side-pass. You have to be able to control the movement of your equine (front end and back end separately) in order to have control on rides. It is a safety issue. If they get scared and you can get their minds on moving their feet in the direction you are asking they can't be afraid and thinking (and moving their feet) at the same time.
I’m so thankful to have found this.
I'm curious on how you might handle a mule that completely shuts down when asked to do this kind of work. If he is let go freely to do round penning "join up" work he will do everything in his power to never be touched again after a few moments of work. I have a hunch he has learned that he can outlast a human and when he gets away with it he no longer trusts the humans leadership skills. But I've never had to deal with that type of reaction to this extreme. I've often had to resort to grain to get him near me and as soon as i lay a hand on him he is completely fine and will let me halter him with no issue.
Do you know his history? I have a mule like this. He was whipped to the point of scars on his back. I spent 2 years just earning his trust behind a roped off section in the round pen.
so now the mule is being taught to go backwards in order to escape scary things (smh)
Did you watch the video? He explains his process in it. He was only focused on getting her right front to cross over and take a step in the right direction *at first*, then from there, directed her in a circle like a typical lunge would go. She isn't being taught to back away because he does not release while she's backing away, he's releasing when she steps her right front over. Then later, when she goes easy in the circle.
That isn't what he taught her. He taught her to yield her front end - which she eventually did.
We have a 9yr old john mule that we recently bought. Loads , shod , but bolts when leading him. He acts like he wants to trust us but is just to leary, once we get him we brush him wrong move he gone. How is the best way to deal with this issue.
Have same issue
@@chelseabelcher5329 it can take 20 or 50 times it the same sacking as a horse to get the same level of trust. If you have little patience avoid mule training. Work from where he is that min. and don't fret, time is on your side, you can ride a wonderful mule for decades. Mules do much better if you relax and like them they can feel if you like them and are not tense, angry or fearful. A good mule is a Cadillac ride in rough country. Well worth time and love invested.
Put a come along hitch on him
What would suggest about a mule that keeps backing up when you want him to stand or put his halter on? He just started this behavior last week out of the blue
I am sooo happy to have found your videos! I just got a 5 month old mini molly mule. Super friendly but no respect. I have horses and do alot of ground work with them. I am guessing because I dont know about mules, that I can do the same ground work with this weanling mule as I do with my horses? Can I add, I love your approach! The only other person I found on CZcams was waaaay too aggressive with his mules for my liking.
Watch czcams.com/video/wakstvDApfI/video.html Mr Pat Puckett
If this mule bolted and got away what would be the solution? Calmly catch her and start over?
Chad & Emma Basan hello, if you have one that gets away, the best thing to do is work in a round pen or something where they can’t get too far. Then all you do is get them to hook on to you and then start with your ground work again. Repeat. Eventually they will see that being with you is much easier that being away.
Why is side stepping so important?
He is teaching her to move her front end away from pressure. He will also teach her to move her rear end away from pressure. Put those two together and you have a side-pass. You have to be able to control the movement of your equine (front end and back end separately) in order to have control on rides. It is a safety issue. If they get scared and you can get their minds on moving their feet in the direction you are asking they can't be afraid and thinking (and moving their feet) at the same time.
Can't hear anything you are saying! WTF