LETO ATREIDES I (The Red Duke, House Atreides & Honour in DUNE) EXPLAINED
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- Once upon a time in the grand space opera of DUNE, there was a man named Duke Leto Atreides I. Born in the year 10140 AG, he was famously known as the Red Duke, and affectionately called Leto the Just. He wasn't just any noble; but the second-to-last Duke of the mighty House Atreides, the father of Emperor Paul Atreides and Regent Alia Atreides with his Bene Gesserit concubine, Lady Jessica and the grandfather of Leto II Atreides, who later went on to become the God-Emperor.
Celebrated for his fair and compassionate leadership, he managed the reins of Caladan before shifting to the harsh desert world of Arrakis. This was all amidst an ongoing feud with the devious Baron Harkonnen.
House Atreides were one of the big players in the Galactic Padishah Empire and one of the so-called Houses Major. The family claimed their lineage all the way back to Old Earth, specifically to ancient Greece as descendants of King Agamemnon, a son of Atreus (hence the 'Atreides' tag). For twenty generations, Atreides ran the show on Caladan, making it a model of good governance. They had a knack for creating a society that was not only well-organized but also spiritually content.
Caladan was a verdant paradise, quite the opposite of the Harkonnens' industrial hellscape, Giedi Prime. But don't be fooled by their utopian lifestyle; the Atreides were also battle-hardened, with Swordmasters, Warmasters, Mentats, and their own unique Battle Language.
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"And if you're answer is 'no', you'll still be the only thing I ever needed you to be: my son."
I think more of us needed go hear that in our lives.
T
Pretty words.But, obviously unrealistic -unless there is another heir hidden away somewhere.
😊 Yes, I realize this is ALL make-believe ! 😊
It's funny how his ability for making allies made him a target by the ruling powers.
Duke Leto had to much rizz for his own good.
Consequences of the 2nd and 3rd degree, and just plain jealousy.
Regarding consequences, look at it from the Emperor's perspective. Here's a popular man in the Landstraad, with a military force rivaling your Sardukar, with an intelligence network as powerful as a your own, maybe better.
Shaddam IV could never allow him to live in case Leto became the focus of a rebellion against him, even if he had no intention.
It's always great when you're looked at as "beneath me". As soon as you're looked at as an "almost" equal, that greatness/ability becomes a death sentence, so to speak.
I think Leto was power hungry, and had his eye on Shaddam's throne...that's why he accepted Arrakis (and endangered the lives of his family), even though he suspected it was a trap...He thought he had more time to recruit the Fremen on his side...Leto probably knew he would have the Landsraad behind him in his claim to the throne (on top of the Emperor's treachery)....Baron Harkonnen in the book dreamed of House Harkonnen gaining the throne the same way - during a conversation with Fenring he feigned horror that the Emperor might attack him, but secretly hoped it would happen - so he could rally the Landsraad behind him
I also think this is why Leto didn't marry Jessica...he wanted to maintain the option of a favorable political marriage...and what would be more favorable than marrying one of the Emperor's daughters and taking the throne? So perhaps Shaddam was not the only one wishing Leto would marry Irulan..maybe Leto was also wishing it
I never understood why Corrino didn't marry Irulan to Leto. Their children would continue as Corrino and Paul would remain Atreides. And the emperor would have gained a powerful and popular ally instead of relying on the the scheming Harkonnen.
Yeah I agree
Do you find the answer the books give unsatisfying. Shadam muses on how he wishes he could have married Leto to Irulan. But he's too old. Which I take to also include he has a family that's too well established. Even though he technically isn't married and that's specifically so he could be, he might as well be married. He'd never love Irulan and his first son and heir would always be Paul. Really Paul and Jessica would both need to be killed for it to all work smoothly.
@@pseudonymousbeing987 Yeah, I remember something along those lines, but marriage is supposed to be a political transaction. In that sense, it would make quite a lot of sense.
And as I said, their "secondary" offspring could inherit from the Corrino line while Paul would remain the Duke of Caladan - now also bonded to the royal family.
The books state it was based about the idea of creating a hybrid between the two houses - Paul was to be a girl and married to the Harkoen and then their child would have been the chosen one.
The Emperor lamented this, but I think real Politick dictated Leto had to go, since he was too popular. Even with his honor, its not too hard to imagine someone using them to overthrow the Corrinos.
oscar isaac was perfectly cast. He is a master at portraying a decent man, who still conveys a hint of being capable of F'ing you up if he has to
Leto I walked, so Leto II could run.
Come to think of it, how does a human/sandworm hybrid move around?
Well Leto the first was killed as a baby, he was killed by a Harkonnen attack on the Freman while Paul & Chani were away. Duke Leto the Just had two grandchildren carry his name.
@@matthewchewning3822 Leto the first is the Duke. Leto the second is the God Emperor
@@tvman099099 It walks when it feels like a human, and it slithers when it's in that worm kind of mood...but non-rhythmically, to not attract the worms
@@faust1734 yeah matthew is referring to Leto the Elder, the original namesake who was killed before Leto 2
He was a good man. Perhaps too good some would say.
Indeed!
@@filmcomicsexplained A lot of his 'virtue' was political branding however...Leto was also a calculating man with political ambitions of his own
This is a good one. Getting to that time to go back and watch/listen to all of your videos on characters or stories relating to Dune. This is my favorite Sci Fi movie series happening these days. I’m a non reader so these videos help greatly
I would love more coverage on the battles Duke Leto fought in the days before Paul was born. They sound interesting, like why were they fought and who was involved who won why they started how they finished and how it impacted everything else
Leto is an example of "always keep your leaders to account, even if you love them."
In the books, its clear he focuses a lot on his image (something about a propaganda center). And despite his skills as a leader and the strength he wielded, he still failed his House. Some of it is attributed to his honor, as he would have never refused an order from the Emperor, despite knowing it was a trap. But a lot of it was his inability to play to real Politik. If he really wanted to, he could have married any of the Great Houses and forged an alliance that would have given more protection. But didn't out of love.
Actually he would ask help for the fremem people. He sent someone to make peace with Fremen people in advance. If he succeed, he would have a very powerful army in a strategic place. It was a political strategy too
@@edumalafaia11 yes and it was a good plan, but even then that plan depended on speed and time, which they didn’t have.
Also, in the Imperium at the time, the Fremen were seen as less than citizens, so no one would care if the Atreides made an alliance with (in the minds of most of the Imperium), a few ten thousand desert scavengers.
As faster and more guaranteed plan that would lasted longer and been more widely recognized would have been a marriage. Which of course Leto refused out of love for Jessica.
And if someone in his circle actually spoke up and confronted him about this, maybe something more permanent would have arisen. But everyone loved him so much, no one questioned him.
And that really is the lesson Frank Herbert was trying to teach. Always keep your leaders to task, whether they enable you to normalize horrible things for fun, if they are the most noble and honorable person you know, or if they use religion.
dude the guy was a beast dont hate@@JunkPhuJP
@@mrwhat5094 not my hate. I love him too. But that’s Frank Herbert’s message still.
Outro music never gets old. Especially how it fades in during the remaining words of the video.
Damm
Why did you wait so long to make this
Its brilliant
Leto Atreides I is somewhat my auntie or my family would say to ourselves "Its okay to be good person however don't do it all the time because god might bring you back to heaven, quite early that you expect it." didn't know they read Dune
I've really been enjoying learning about Dune lore through your channel, lots of content to catch up on and you do great compilations/summaries across various forms of media. Please do a video on Duncan Idaho when you get the chance :D
Not just saying this because I read the first book and am waiting for the second film, BUT any dune content would be appreciated right now. im kinda hooked.
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe and Merry Christmas 🎄🎁⛄
Merry Xmas Shaine! Thank you :)
That was great, thank you.
Fire 🙏🔥🔥 more!!!
Very well done
Very organized and powerful house/bloodline.
Keep up the dune content.
Great video Can you do Zilla,Giant Octopus,Maguma,Manda,Baragon,Gargantuas,Gezora,Ganimes,Kamoebas,Varan and Megaguirus/Meganulon from Toho,Hearts of Iron 4 and L.A. Noire
Somehow DUNE to me is looking more like a God Of War expanded universe. 🗡🔥💀
It actually got me to look more into Warhammer 40k, as there are a few similarities between the two
@@filmcomicsexplained Kratos vs. God Emperor!🗡🔥🤣
I just have to say it's die to you that made me fall in love with this universe
Thanks Jammbbs. If you are loving the universe, please make sure to read the novels by Frank Herbert my friend! You will not be dissapointed :)
@@filmcomicsexplained you make stories so more interesting like the guy from why files but you've been in my life more
i have to say ,i like the Buttlarian Jihad and how the stories lead to Dune ,Atreides ,Harkonnan even the sisters of Roszak ,the Holman shield , the mentats, even the sword masters.( sorry about spelling ) , im a prequel guy and love to know how things got how they are.
OMG 3 videos this week = nirvana 👌
Christmas came early my friend! :)
I am looking forward to second movie...
me too mate! A shame it was postponed
@@filmcomicsexplained
I hope the second movie would be good as much as the first one.. Or even better...
I hope you do Idaho soon as he’s the only one in every book. ❤
Bruh, such a Chad for facing down charging Bull.
And the one that killed his father. Takes heaps of courage!
Just a calculated show of b*lls and fighting prowess, to gain loyalty...not too different from the Harkonnen gladiatorial combats...How do we know Leto (or the 'fight organizers') didn't have the animal drugged to weaken it and slow it down? Rather than risk the bull killing another Duke? And that bull would not have killed Leto's father in the first place if he didn't enjoy and engage in such a cruel, brutal sport...so perhaps the Atreides were not so virtuous after all
QUESTION TO ANYONE: what happens to Planet Caladan and the people during the destruction of the Atredes army on DUNE. So far I have not seen or heard anything about what happens on Caladan and what happens when they find out Paul is alive and is the ONE. Does anyone know this?
When Paul became emperor fiefdom of Caladan was given to Gurney Halleck, who Paul trusted to rule while he was away
@@filmcomicsexplained Oh ok thanks
@@e.s.5529 yeah a lot more is covered in the books. Give them a read, they're worth it.
If I'm not mistaken, in the time between The Fall of Leto and the Ascension of Paul, Caladan was given over to another House, but I'm not sure which. Is it possible they just let the planet "lay fallow"?
@@JunkPhuJP it was given to Count Fenring, a close friend and advisor to Emperor Shaddam IV & another possible Kwisatz Haderach that wasn't viable because he was a genetic eunuch. He's married to Lady Margot another Bene Gesserit. Until Paul came to power who turned it over to Gurney.
Leto was a normal stand-up guy who managed his realm in peace and prosperity.
Compared to the other houses shown so far maybe even too down to earth😂
When are you going to do “leave the world behind?”
Cannot wait for Dune Part 2. Best sci fi since the original star wars.
Sincerely hoping that Dune part 2 will be at least as good as part 1
Have you ever thought exploring or explaining the movie Abraham Lincoln vampire Hunter
I honestly havent seen it yet, but its on my to-watch list for sure! Cheers redt :)
@@filmcomicsexplained ❤😉
Off topic but very curious to know: are you a fan of Demon Slayer and would you ever consider doing videos on it? From the many wonderful characters: main cast, Hashira's, Upper Moons, Lower Moons, etc.
I havent checked it out yet, but ima grab a copy of the manga soon as a few people have recommended it and will also try watching the anime to see what its all about! Thanks :)
@@filmcomicsexplained I highly recommend it as well. With the details and research you do for your videos it would be great to see the backstory, powers and abilities and the impact the characters have. Whether it’s the Hashira to the Demons. The seasons are amazing and with the second to last chapter coming out in a few months, definitely would be neat to see.
Paul showing up at the round table meeting after killing the hunter seeker made his dad so happy, also btw at the meeting u hear them talking about how many freemen their was on Dune and the Harkoneen estimated 50,000 to 100,000, which was way off the atreides mentat did some math and said it was possible their was millions of them. That underestiation by the harkoneen proved to be their dowmfall as they where attacked am beaten by the freemen
Im curious, are you going only off of the films? Because in the prequel books, leto was married and had another son that dies.
No society has ever preserved, peacefully, stability, prosperous without having also a strong military tradition and skills
In a world where hollywood/the entertainment industry likes to make everyone morally grey/anti hero’s/villains with good motives, it was refreshing to see Duke Leto essentially be an altruistic character who treated everyone with trust and respect. I like to think he died believing his sacrifice ended the Harkonen invasion because he deserves to go out like that
dad lore goes crazy
Im starting to love Dune because of you.
Also.. God bless you good sir.
Thank you brother!
One man can make a huge difference
"Here I am, here I remain."
i don't get why villeneuve claims his movie is closer to the books. when the books say the sardaukar were equiped in harkonnen fashion to cover them. duncan idaho only recognising them AFTER they start fighting, because he recognises their style and skill.
i think that’s simply a change necessary for a movie adaptation. it would be difficult to communicate that visually so they make it clear when the sardaukar show up.
The video miss characterizes Duke Leto’s response to being ordered to rule over Arkas. The video says he jumped at the opportunity, the book gives the idea that the Duke saw it as a an attempt at banishment, Second the video says the Emperor offered Sardukar as an incentive for invasion of araks, this is miss leading cause it was Duke Harkonen who required the sardukar so the emoporer could not claim ignorance of the event
Good thing AI is forbidden in the universe of Dune, otherwise i think the Duke might have been boinking machines...
lol
He's a Duke - who needs machines when you can get concubines? BG concubines, who you know must be hot under those robes ;-)
Imagine if this universe and the stars wars universe existed at the same time. The plot twist could be that this is how society changed or moved forward after The Empire's fall or failure in ROJ. The ultimate what if😮
No it couldn’t , after the Butlerian Jihad all artificial intelligence and androids were outlawed, Star Wars has had droids in its mythos from start to finish
"Thufir Hawat vetted Lady Jessica"
What does that entail? Asking the Bene Gesserit if the prospective bride is the child of the prospective groom's arch-enemy?
Explore The Ancient Enemy from The Phantoms.
Yep, its on the to-do list brother!
@@filmcomicsexplained
Cheers!!!
“A great man doesn’t seek to lead.”
Which is what Paul ended up doing.
I’ve completed the entire playlist in one sitting.
QUESTION TO ANYONE: Does Paul take the water of life in the book or is that just something that was added in the 1984 catastrophe attempt?.
Yes he drank it in the book and almost died, I think he was in a coma like state for a long time
Please cover The Assassin's Creed 2016.
9th request
I see ships from the Amarr Empire, Gallente Federation, & an Triglavian gate-jumper.
Hey Film Comics I saw a recent movie produced by the obamas called leave the world behind and it would be cool to see you speak about it
Where is 1:09 from?
Leto was literally the biggest chad in the galaxy
A pretty great looking beard
I think leto was the third last to hold the title of Duke. Pual and leto both held the title. Second to last is penultimate.
Literally Ned stark in space.
House Atreides's ancestor is also Vorian Atreides, son of the Titan Agamemnon.
dude has so much rizz he even made thanos loyal to him
Where does it say he was known as the red duke?
The red duke was him or his father? i remember his father, Paulus was called "red duke" for the Emperor (the father of Saddam)
People please read the books or listen in audiobook format. They are so much better than the movies
Absolutely. The books are amazing. But it is nice to see a visual portrayal, even if it’s not fully fleshed out. Villeneuve did an incredible job.
he would have made a very good emperor and humanity could have spread out through the galaxy allot sooner.
Filmcomicsexolained please do the video on SCP 7771
Adding it to the list mate! Thanks
Wait, there was a friendly sandworm?
I came here cause this skin is on Call of Duty lol.
You mean the atreides battle armour? No way. I didnt know that lol
@@filmcomicsexplained his image and likeless so yeah he's there now lol.
As a character though keeping him alive he wouldn't really function because he's too perfect. There's nothing really to change. To see a perfect dude win and knowing that all he's done is whole life is when win no matter what, is not interesting in a story
If only the poor bastard knew what his legacy would be…one of monsters
The actor who plays Paul has the quintessential bone structure of GenZ. Their mothers were malnourished, and they are malnourished.
No they just don't fatten themselves up with toxic processed foods, red meat and booze like Boomers did
This is all fan fiction.
There was no NoShips before God Emperor of Dune timeline.
The movie would’ve been better with a backstory or more character dev. My hubs never saw the movie or read the book… so he didn’t understand any of the stuff. No explanation of what the true spice was. Why they wanted the house to go down. What the hell having a girl meant. It was pretty bad. I read all the GOT books first but u can watch the series and have most understanding of what is happening
Leto is like JFK
Not drawing attention to where the film diverts from the books and where the works of the father seperate from those of the son feels a disservice to properly explaining the lore of Dune.
I'm a super 40 Imperial fan boy, and with Amazon and GW getting together, I fear that product will come off as a Dune/LOTR ripoff.
Ahhh an Imperial fanboy, nice. I hope they do the lore justice. It’s an insane and dark world, idk if they can pull it off. I’m also worried…Amazon completely botched Tolkien‘s works. But hopefully Cavill will make the difference.
The new trailer for the new Dune movie was really disappointing, against Villanue is putting visuals over world building and context, the Harkonnen seems like Albino monsters, also, what should be in the first movie, Shaddam, Irulan, the Bene Gesserit and the Spice Guild are now in this movie, hell, they added what it seems flashbacks of the interaction between Paul and Irulan, that should have been in the first movie, this whole trilogy is a mess, like the Star Wars Sequels, good visuals, very poor and barren storytelling.
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again with the brian herbert bullshit, cmon man!!
Jesus loves you and died a painful death on a cross for our sins so we don't have to be doomed to hell, but instead receive eternal life with him if we choose to turn away from our sins and try our best to follow and obey him, he desires to give you peace and redemption❤❤
Amen
GTFO with that nonsense spam
Jesus is a myth made up by men seeking power
I had a sandwich for lunch today.
Uhhh you’re Chinese
Dune is kinda whack ngl
Ok I’m sorry, I usually love your videos, but if you call dune a space opera one more time I swear to god I’m unsubscribing and never clicking on your shit again 😂
I’m so tired of effin Dune. Give it a break already. It sucks.
Go back to your marvel movies. 😂
Then why are you here sucka?
No you suck