Vintage Levi's are SO much better! | Raw Denim Sherpa Type III vs. Modern.
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Levi's Levi's Levi's, why must you do this to us. Today I investigated and got to the bottom of Levi's quality over the last 50 years. Also I lamented over the fact that hand pockets weren't a thing in denim jackets for about a million years give or take.
So let's breakdown the 70's Levi's Denim Jacket real quick:
1. It's raw (unwashed)
2. It's NOT selvedge
3. The stitching is a little less perfect
4. The sherpa is a million times better.
The denim is pretty uniform, nothing insane which is interesting because I was just reading from Levi's that they didn't really start introducing really uniform denim until the 80's. Maybe this is a bit of a later model and they were starting to do it? Not sure!
Anyways the sherpa jacket is right up there with Levi's products like the 501's BUT ARE THE MODERN ONES ANY GOOD?! Let me know wtf you think!
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A late comment but pockets were introduced in 1984 so any jacket before that would be after that and a small e levis jacket with no pockets would be between 1971 and 1984.
Pinned!
I got a NOS 1987 US made sherpa just this pandemic. It's from Texas.
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You are right. As I was buying these in 1974... I had 3 because they get wet. I tossed one in the dryer. And grab another...
And trust me. When they made the slash pocket Sherpa. I was all over that...As riding a motorcycle in the cold was brutal..
I just thrifted a small e Levi’s jacket with no hand pockets for 14$ from the thrift store
Type-III jackets classically didn't have hand warmers as they were still considered workwear and pockets would snag on things (plus, it was assumed you'd be wearing gloves because you're doing early 1900's work like breaking giant rocks with hammers).
Also, how's flying during covid? Creepy? Normal-ish? What's the Cinnabon line looking like?
THANK YOU!!! Wow I just learned so much from this comment.
Also flying during covid is pretty horrifying, everyone takes precautions of course but still pretty creepy.
The weirdest part is for the most part all stores in the airport are shut down!!
@@TheIronSnail Companies like Iron Heart will sell you a *modified* Type III jacket with hand warmers but I think Levis didn't make hand warmers standard on their Type II's and III's until the 80's from what I've read. Your standard, generic "trucker jacket" model these days is a Type-II with hand warmers.
I haven't flown since March and couldn't imagine doing it again until I know an airport bar will be open. Good luck to you!
Love your content man, always happy to see another video drop!
Hey THANK you!
I'm happy you're not famous YET and can still respond to our comments 🙂
It’s the best part!
lol
Dude people like you just
I used to work menswear retail in the 80's and the orange tab Levi's were the cheaper more affordable range made with a denim that wore holes very quickly. The Red tab were the higher quality Selvedge tighter weave denim. Very high quality and a higher price. During those times you were a nobody unless you wore the Red Tab "supertaper" jeans..In BLACK of course.
Came here from your T&H insta story, and I am so glad I found your channel! Also happy birthday!! Coincidently my birthday is actually tomorrow! Also, I gotta say I love your work over at T&H - especially the Nomos piece that was just 👌🏻👏🏻
Hey thanks so much my friend! AND HAPPY BDAY!
Awesome looking vintage jacket bro! I love the look of it, really cool piece of history!
A sherpa is definitely a must have for men! First time running into your channel! Subscribed!
Hey thanks i appreciate that!!
That jacket is sweet man, my grandpa used to wear his all the time. He loved it.
Oh that’s incredible
That man had good taste!
I was planning on buying a denim jacket and I have two choices: the other one without hand pockets and the other one with hand pockets. Talk about the timing! Finding this video is so helpful for me, thanks!
Of course!!
Know you from T&H but super excited to see your content here as I am actually looking for a sherpa lined jacket though a year late for this video haha
I have the black one, had it since last year and still looks new. It wears great and goes with a lot of outfits but I avoid using it with some flannels since it turns into an all out sleeves drag battle to get my arms through the hole.
Hahahaha
I just bought me a pleated, vintage Maverick denim jacket from the 60s with the zipper and 6 copper dots (or buttons or whatever). Pretty excited about it.
Sounds sweeeet!
I am happy I found your videos. Keep it up.
Thanks!!
There are multiple issues here, mainly vintage quality and jacket lining. Levi's Type 3 Jackets are really for warmer weather so the ones with "sherpa" or blanket lining are not practical, especially compared to today's fleece jackets. That is why vintage blanket lined jackets sell for less than unlined denim jackets.
Originally the two pocket Levi's Type 3 jackets were shorter and had a traditional Western styling making them very flattering. In the 1980s Levi's added the lower hand warmer pockets by lengthening the jacket. That made them more practical but four pocket jackets don't look near as good. The styling and the denim quality is why the older vintage jackets are better than today's jackets.
Back in the 1800s the available reasonable cost dye was indigo. That is why jeans are blue. Indigo only coats the surface of cotton fibers and doesn't soak all the way through. Abrasion through wearing and the drying machine rubs off the outside of the cotton fibers revealing the white insides. We call that fading. But the black dye soaks all the way through the cotton fibers so black jeans will never fade like blue jeans because the insides of the fibers are also black.
If you have an opportunity, take a look at Lee rider sherpa. It's definitely better than modern Levi's one.
Vintage look and fit with wide shoulders and good length. I like the collar, its not too big, just right. Buttons are much more usable and secure. And really huge pockets.
I'm into the sherpa jackets and actually picked up Levis 80s/90s one for $18 @ a local thrift store this week! But I want to say I have a newer premium one I got for the same price AND got a $8 Goodfellow one at another thrift store. The Goodfellow one has thick sherpa and an inside pocket with nicely quilted sleeves. It is button and not snap. I do like the Goodfellow one better although it is not considered as cool. The Levis 80s/90s one would be perfect if it had the inside pocket.
Looking at the video in October 2022. And I just bought the Premium jacket for $40 in the dark denim. I love it.
Just found your account and I am enjoying your videos. I got the exact same jacket and same size, I usually wear a 38 but found it very tight fitting due to the sherpa lining. I compared it to my unlined type 3 from the same period and they are cut practically the same. Therefore with the extra padding inside it makes it just too tight. Hopefully one day I can find a size up and it would work better for layering.
Thanks for your content!
Of course! And oh interesting! I always assumed they cut them a little wider when lined but I guess not
I also have the Levi's blanket lined Type III and it's a great jacket for the California winters!
Lucky!!
' california winters '
Your videos are very entertaining to watch, especially for the videos being about clothes. most reviews are boring but I get they are to inform people. Also, whats the story on the painting of the seated dude? It sticks out to me, although i dont mean to pry if you dont care to share
Thanks!! Also i don’t mind at all! It’s actually a painting my friend did for a movie I made a few years back
This one looks so nice!
Ty!
I love my type 3 - lucky to find it at a yard sale 20+ years ago.
Great find!
Need your review on the Sherpas from the 90s! I have owned a few and found them to be the best fit and quality. Especially the 71550 04, love the sherpa on the sleeves.
I just got a new one to replace the one I had in the late 80's in high school. Back then Heavy Metal was in, in a big way and that's why I had one. I grew out of it in college. I live in Miami so no need for the sherpa/flannel linings. Mine is 98% cotton and 2%stretchy stuff and dark washed. It makes me feel like the high school glory daze again.
Incredible!
I ended up buying a 100% cotton 72334-0134 DARK WASH. I'm on a diet. Jajajajajajajahahahahaha.
Ok, a few questions...💁🏻 You said this particular vintage jacket is model #72605-0217...👌🏼 Do you know what the model number is for a vintage jacket just like this one that's a bit older that has the big E tab...❓ My other question is, this jacket that you have has no pockets, but what year did they start making these jackets with pockets...❓
Safe to say that I'm here before you're too famous
Keep it upppppp
Keeping it up!
Nice jackets shame about the pockets happy thanksgiving 👍
I'm gearing myself up to buy one of those heavy, overdyed denim jackets from Iron Heart. The 19oz version looks pretty good to me. Why am I wanting to buy such an expensive jacket?! Will this actually make me happy? The answer is, Yes.
I aaaaaaaaam jealous ALSO Iron Heart review soon!
@@TheIronSnail lol. We have fairly similar taste it seems. Will you say which IH model or will that be a surprise? Also, pretty much had to decide between this IH jacket and a Freenote RJ2 shearling. Almost did buy the RJ2 when I saw the 20% of from the Freenote site however, really want the perfect all around denim jacket jacket I've not yet had in my life.
I can’t say yet as I’m not sure! And lol I know it’s pretty dead on
I have the 18oz version from selfedge and it’s great! Can’t go wrong with IronHeart!
We need more videos! Cheers from Italy (Am I the first Italian subscriber?).
You just may be!! Greetings from the USA!
I'm not sure how I got here but keep it up! Great video!
Oh hey thanks!
Happy birthday! from now on I will exclusively wash my poptarts in the sink in honor of you
This is the highest honor
Beautiful jacket! When the auction will be on? 😁
Sold already!!
I've got a really nice sherpa lined Levi jacket. I dunno why, if it's just where it's made or what, but mine is WAY nicer than ones I find at various department stores like Kohls or Macys or whatever.
Can you do a video about orange tabs please
I wonder if the insulation in the 70's jacket would stay padded and poofy and fresh for long. In my experience before the 2000s ish and memory foam any kind of padding (mattresses, upholstery, cushions, liners, etc) would just get pounded down to nothing and then never recover. Would love an update in a bit to see if the sherpa and the sleeves are still puffy and nice after 100 wears and a wash.
Great point! Time will tell!
You might be good on black denim jackets however, I had purchased a "Johnny Cash" all black sherpa jacket from Brave Star a while back and its pretty great. Good video. Thanks!
Of course! I really want a brave star!
@@TheIronSnail you seem to appreciate eBay. Brave Star is often undervalued in those listings. Great place for a deal on your first try on of that denim.
Brian Agee Brave Star is also under valued on their website.
This American company offers insane value for the price.
I have an 87. Man it's good.
Well well well .. and just like that I just ordered Sherpa jacket lmbo and I just started watching your Chanel 😹😹😹🙄🙄🙄
Hahaha! At least it’s a nice jacket!
Nice jacket 😊
Nice comment!
I bought LeeXPendleton collab jacket, pretty nice .
Im 6feet and 187pounds should i order size L?
I wear a XXL Levi's type3. What would it be the numbereral equivalent to this size? Please&Thankyou
Hard to say for sure but I’d say 44-48? Better to take a measurement!
I have the Splitsville XL Sherpa Jacket.
siempre me han gustado mucho estas chaquetas de Sherpa No se porque pero me gustan mucho y no son nada baratas tampoco las venden todo el año solo por temporadas saludos desde CDMX 🇲🇽
Brave Star recently put out a made in USA selvage Cone denim Sherpa trucker. They’re sold out in most sizes but perhaps they’ll do a second run or maybe one will show up on eBay. Would be really sweet to see a comparison between one of those and the vintage Levi’s Sherpa.
EDIT: left this comment mid video then you mentioned Brave Star 30 seconds later haha
Hahahaha typical! I want to try one out!
@@TheIronSnail I recently got mine in the Unfinished Cone and love it. Definitely warmer than my modern Levi’s Sherpa trucker. Also I noticed they’ve got another run going in their preorder section with a slightly different quality of cone denim.
38 is medium or small?
Your videos are cool!!
Thanks!!
I have a blanket lined Big E tab Type III that I bought from a thrift store has the same problem. NO HANDWARMER POCKETS! It is so freakin annoying!
HATE IT!
Do the older 70's and 80's Levi's jackets come in size XXL...❓❓❓
Sure do!
Awesome video. I just bought this jacket in size 44, i hope its not too big:O
How is it!
@@TheIronSnail Got one from the 80s with handpockets:D fits nice but sleeves are a bit short maybe!:)
Second time viewing, love both jackets.
Maybe someone can help me. I'm 5'4" yes I know I'm short! And around 150-155 lbs. I want a vintage Levi's sherpa jacket. I have a non sherpa modern Levi's jacket and it just doesn't fit as snug as I'd like and the arms are too snug for my liking. So I'm looking at a vintage small size 40. I have a 38" chest. Will this jacket fit me good? Or should I be getting a vintage size medium? I know they fit different but I'm just not sure. I want it to fit snug and sit at my hip. Any help is GREATLY appreciated.
Sounds like a type ll would be more of a fit for your body. You can get a true fit and it will be short enough and more forgiving.
The Seafarers union hall over on Broadway in Jersey city, ask for Flipper. He can hook you up with some ‘vintage’ Levi’s.
I’m IN!
1:20 cool shot
I wish they made the jacket in a long coat version.
I paid $40 for mine.. definitely will find the 80s Sherpa more often. but your local thrift store that you drive by and go hmm I wonder what’s there yep it’s there… small towns have em
Always!
I would love to know, since I’m in the market looking for another denim jacket… My LuckyBrand was great but too tight… It looked good, but I couldn’t really move like a normal human being… So I am in the market for either a vintage denim 70s probably… or something modern with vintage style and decent denim and quality..And I don’t know the fit of the jackets whether it’s tight three or the lee rider…I’m a fairly frugal artist and I actually enjoy the hunt for great deals.. it would be easy if I had a ton of money… Not much effort just buy whatever I want… But I don’t… So anywhere from the $35-$100 range .. it’s not about the price, but getting a steal is the greatest victory. So if you could do a video or if you have any information on the fit of these denim jackets, it would be awesome… I’m about 5-7, 150 pounds, 17 1/2 shoulders, 31 waist 39 chest… I’m stuck in between sizes kind of… And because I’m shorter, the sleeves should be about 24.. and I’m not sure how they fit which one is the best for my body type… I’m more athletic muscular build that I am slim… But I’m over 50 so I have a a little extra weight but not that much… And of course I don’t look like I’m 50 which is good and bad depending on the situation.😅
I love it, I have one
Oh sweet!!
Probably a dumb question, but how do you know this jacket is unwashed? Simply bc the seller told you so, or is there a specific way for you to tell from the fabric or something? Also, love your humor. You should teach Christian some of it :P Jk....
Good question! The fabric is stiff when it’s not washed because it’s starched from sewing
Also usually the color is extremely even and there are no bends or folds in the fabric that shows someone wore it for a while/broke it in
Honestly if your hands are cold you probably should just get some gloves, not sure where you live but where I'm from when it's cold out there's often ice and you definitely want your hands out of your pockets if you slip. However on my type 3 I use those pockets to hold all the useful crap I carry around, and definitely want them on the jacket!
That’s very true!! I have some gloves i should wear more anyway!
Are you still rocking the Levi's 501 STF or did you jump into some new raws?
Still rocking them along with some black 501’s!
And some elephant 7’s
@@TheIronSnail Oh nice are you gonna do a vid on either of them? I like high contrast fades so I've been wearing some double indigo and indigo x black pairs from Gustin and Sauce Zhan. I did get a nice raw selvedge type 3 with this interesting light blue twisted weft from Sauce Zhan as well for $85 shipped can't wait to get that.
They had one color till in the 1970's... Then you spent the next week washing them 10 times.. As they were stiff and real dark....
I would add. The premium version is full Sherpa Lined. The normal one just the collar is Sherpa. The rest is a flannel type liner.
Oh man, I get it. Tale... it's like Tail, from a Snail. A snail's tail, is like a tale from a snail!
Man, as an aside, I almost misspelled it "snaile" like ten times here.
YES!! Snailes forever!!
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I try my best!
@@TheIronSnail You still need a better hamper
@@MisterKnightly shit
I will watch you in the end
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I'll do a video with 50 aspect ratios soon
Hey, I like the aspect ratio you are using.
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The image quality and the colour scheme is really well suited to the theme of your channel. Great work man.
Thanks so much!!
The amount of subs you have is TOO damn low. Keep it up.
keeping up!
@@TheIronSnail Im glad to have discovered you before you are famous.
Splitsville Sherpa is the way to go..
wow your jacket size is 38,. I have one and its color is purple, it size is 40 and its tight fit
My guess to why they have no pockets for the 70s edition is because it’s pretty much like a ranchers jacket and when you’re a rancher you most likely have gloves right that’s just my theory tho
I’ve hard that too!
Had nothing to do with it... There just was no need for them.. As at that time people were tight with their money. As I was buying them for $24.00... Then spent the next 3 weeks washing them like 10 times. And you never washed new jeans or a jacket with anything else. Unless you like socks and underwear blue..Why we would use the bathtub and step on them a few times. Then wash it..
Same for jeans. They were $10.00 a pair. You had to go through the same break in process..
Where do you find vintage jackets like this?
eBay! Usually always on eBay
@@TheIronSnail Thanks for the reply! Care to share any tips, or are you willing to make a video? Would be very interested! Love your content.
Of course!! I’ll make a video but my strategy is really just persistence and searching broadly aka searching “Sherpa jacket” and going through absolutely every listing type deal
BUT I’ll make a video!
"i have a little tip" aww never mind, at least you've got a nice personality 8)
L o l
What size would u recommend for a 5'10, 166 pounds male?
A medium!
Okay and what's your height and weight?
The reason for no hand warmer pockets in the 70's is because men were tough they didn't carry cell phones or gadgets they carried their smokes
But what about their COLD HANDS
@@TheIronSnail Did you ever see your grandfather wear gloves?
No! He always just said “i wish there was something i could do about my cold hands”
My grandfather had rabbit fur lined leather gloves they was insanity warm.
Alright. I guess it's time to empty my bank account on one of these bad bois
Empty it out!!
@@TheIronSnail so like, 2 months ago I bought a bravestar denim jacket and was super excited for it. Until I realized how dumb I am cause I live in Minnesota and the jacket is not warm in the slightest. So ever since then, I've been looking for like a cool sherpa one but I don't wanna buy a new one cause I'm really trying wear this one in but this one is super cold. So there's constantly a battle going on in my head on weather or not I should get one
Hahaha any luck with layering? Thick wool sweater and a base layer may help!
There’s always spring.
@@candshoes1890 Throw another coat over the jean jacket John Bender style, treat it like a mid layer
What's special about orange tabs ? :)
You’ll find out soon!
Shooting in Academy Ratio are we? Fancy
MY MAN!
Any idea why the truckers are so cheap on amazon?? Are they legitimate? Or a little different??
Not too sure!! I know Amazon had some issues with counterfeit stuff but I truly don’t know
Hasta donde yo se Amazon no vende cosas falsas
Just when I thought your production values were WAY up, you stop at three tries with that phone in the pocket toss? What?
Honestly that’s true what the hell was i thinking
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Let me expand that, vintage: LEVIS, WRANGLERS, LEE, AND CARHARTT, are way better than the new versions.....l know, because l was born in 1954, and the pre mentioned brands, were better in the 60s and 70s. That's why l hunt out quality, not completely washed out items, from vintage shops. The quality of todays offering is fair.....but my criticism is: the thickness of the denim, it seems to raggy and thin, and not how l remember them. I must admit though: some off the carpenter Jean's at the carhartt wip store are really robust, and double fronted with rivets....so that's good news, in this new world order of raggy denim😂
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It is a known historical fact that people were indeed monoboobed in the early 1900s.
FINALLY some scientific evidence!
@@TheIronSnail Here is an extract pulled from one of Charlie Chaplin’s secret diary books, this has never been shared with anyone else before so consider yourself very special indeed. “My wife has one tit.” I am firmly confident that this provides all the evidence needed. It wasn’t until 1953 where people became doubleboobed. Hence, the type 2 trucker jacket.
That’s incredible, i only heard legends of Charlie’s secret diary
And they all knew it was weird to be monoboobed too
@@TheIronSnail an odd time to be around indeed 🤔
How sustainable do you think this channel is? The way it's designed is you literally have to keep buying new products to talk about. Your taste in fashion is high. You're going to go broke soon. That is unless of course you became super popular and brands start sending you things for free. I think that they will. I have an eye for talent.
I’m hoping sustainable!! I have some ideas where I’m not buying products + Ill resell them after!! Also THANKS!
You don't need pockets. Just wear your leather gloves.
True!
I think buying one of these is just cheating! I mean you wear one by stealing it from the cowboy you’re dating, so it’s all oversized and worn in the elbows. Or that’s the Texas girl fantasy I’m trying to live. Lol 😂
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Cold hands? Get some gloves.
Truckers can't drive with their hands in their pockets so they wore gloves instead of having hand warming pockets. Today people wear work clothes for fashion so they needed pockets for their baby hands.
I didn’t even think of the fact that truckers couldn’t have their hands in their pockets! It’s so simple. Also my baby hands thank Levi’s
you ramble way way way too much.
Why say many word when few word do trick
@TheIronSnail Ha. That was too good not to give a little shout out.