Legislation is Coming - Fight For Your Freedom on EUC and PEV
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- čas přidán 1. 03. 2024
- I just wanted to talk about some upcoming legislation in my local area and how we as a community need to start getting involved.
I am getting anew microphone for my phone so hopefully the audio quality improves by my next upload. I liked the video quality though, so let me know what you thought in the comments.
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I can’t believe that trooper caught me during my relaxing 86 mph ride 😅
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what a beast!
Case in point, EUC makers kept provoking the safety limits, and one day all of their devices will be illegal or you will be forced to have insurance in case you harm others. You will have monthly bills associated with EUC ownership.
😂😂😂 Yeah! You should have at least slowed to 70mph
In your dreams euc brotha!😂😂
all the people involved with passing these laws, are older, and have no personal interest in this type of emerging technology, they are caught up in the hysteria, and are scared of them, they are perfectly fine with ride gas powered car, and dont care to represent PEV owners, we need to vote for PEV owners, or run for office ourselves to make meaningful change.
well no, it's just ignorance and misunderstanding... there's a CZcamsr who's older that rides EUC. it's always going to be a fallacy to assume older people won't be interested in "young people" things. I remember going into a new game once thinking I would be one of the oldest people playing... wrong... almost everyone that I got to know personally enough turned out not only to be older than me, but a LOT older. there's a dude in his 80s playing QuakeLive (and he's pretty damn good at it too) and I once met a woman in her 70s playing WOW (less surprising)
Absolutely correct
unfortunately we're a small community and have way way less money than gas companies
As I commented above: These are NOT laws in fact but rather statutes and acts that CANNOT be given the force of law without the consent of the governed! Corrupt bureaucrats meddling in the lives of the common man as usual! We have been trained and conditioned nearly since birth to accept any fraud these incompetent morons scribble down on a piece of paper by means of tacit consent. (Saying nothing in protest).
Micro_mobility is way too empowering for Joe average so they wait for an excuse to sneak in these unlawful arbitrary measures and refer to them as “laws”! Waste of public resources ie your tax dollars!
You wouldn't believe how many old people ride EUCs...the first time I heard from EUCs was from a 67 year old guy
If the city is not making money on whatever you own, they don’t want you to own it. It’s that simple.
Is it as simple as you don't want to pay for the infrastructure you use?
George is right. Without our voices and involvement, lawmakers who don't care, will simply push to ban PEVs. And yeah the video and audio were fine!
EUCs are already technically motorcycles under MA law if they have a seat. They just need to allow you to insure it. I do want to add, I doubt any police actually know this, I only found out googling, the definition is any motorized vehicle with a seat and less than 4 wheels.
@@bordapatrol4930 what is the definition of "motorized vehicle?" In some states it is defined as specific vehicles. All these signs on pathways that state "no motorized vehicles" just does not apply to electric bikes, scooters or EUCs insome of the states I have lived.
You'd have to be blind and crazy not to see this coming and its far from the end. Other states will follow. Blowing through red lights, splitting lanes, not waiting on pedestrians and racing like idiots through the streets tends to bring on legislation.
Those of us that have been vocalizing we need to be better more courteous riders and we get shot down for being Karens... Well here ya go. Enjoy
@@bordapatrol4930 That's sweet! I would put a seat on my EUC just to be able to register/insure.
The wheel community needs to wake up and realize the way to bring on board some huge, powerful, and well financed allies with tons of committed lobbying and marketing experience is to go big on the green angle. Non-wheelers don't give a crap about fairness or anything else wheel-related and have no other reason to support us. But every year the pressure to green up our auto-miles is going to increase and, as the greenest serious alternative to cars, we should be the recipients of that. Governments shouldn't just be legalizing wheels; they should be strongly encouraging the population to take up wheeling.
That Cop had his radar set on KPH not MPH.
Thank you for posting this! Super important to bring this info to the public! 💯
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Specs should be classified with ... Regular Bicycles. Anywhere a Bicycle can go, any PEV should be allowed.
As for Speed, limited to whatever Road, Trail, sidewalk is allowed by Bicycles, mopeds, etc. 30 mph max unless on a Roadway.
No Registration should be needed.
States, Counties, Cities need to stop trying to Tax the people for everything.
EUCs I can see requirements for Helmets. It's easy to fall and bang your head.
Ebikes, EScoots, ETrikes...as a Bicycle regulations on trails, sidewalks.
I see more Regular Bicyclists that are a Danger to people on Roads, Trails, sidewalks.
Here in Florida we just had a Fatality of an old woman on a Bicycle and a kid on a EbIke. They collided. EbIke was going 12 mph (wearing helmet) and the old woman on regular bicycle was going 25+mph (no helmet). NEWS is trying to blame the EbIke rider. But camera security footage shows the woman was the one ignoring bicycle laws or common sense. No helmet, fast riding, weaving through traffic, ignoring stop signs, etc... your typical Road Bicycle Racing Rider. The city in Dade County put a Ban on Ebikes for 60 days. It's dumb.
Politicians say they want people using PEVs and Electric Vehicles... Yet they are hostile towards people embracing EVs. It's Crazy.
E-Bike lockdown is just another unlawful order which is actually an offer to contract which nobody is under any obligation to accept! Federal government is a corporate body which has no jurisdiction over free living men and women!
These are NOT laws in fact but rather statutes and acts that CANNOT be given the force of law without the consent of the governed! Corrupt bureaucrats meddling in the lives of the common man as usual! We have been trained and conditioned nearly since birth to accept any fraud these incompetent morons scribble down on a piece of paper by means of tacit consent. (Saying nothing in protest)
Law itself is very simple: No victim = No crime
All the other stuff is rules (legislation) which are based on contracts which require our consent (manufactured or otherwise)
Research: Common law, Legal fiction, legal strawman
What's crazy is actually believing a word any politician says. They want more tax money and more control. Best we can do is to not give them any reason to start trying to do so. This will go the same way as drones. EUCs /PEVS over a certain weight and speed will require registration, insurance of some kind and a maybe even a License
It won’t happen in California. Cali has a strong commitment to sustainability and reducing carbon emissions. They encourage the use of electric alternatives to fit into this ethos. In addition, California is home to a tech-savvy population that embraces innovative solutions. E-scooters, e-bikes, and electric unicycles align with the state's culture of embracing new technologies.
hope you’re right for my sake
Yeah California is great. Your politicians are so savvy, you have to pay ridiculously high taxes. The state is still broke even though your economy is huge because your tax dollars are wasted paying for stupid programs like buying drug paraphernalia for homeless people to enable there bad decisions “safely”. They let repeat criminals walk with no charges after shoplifting, mugging, and breaking in to cars and homes. Meanwhile they make it as difficult as possible for regular people to purchase an effective firearm and protect themselves from the chaos they foster. California’s “progressive” politics have turned your state into a semi socialist shit hole. Your weather is really nice though. Too bad about the rest.
California is the literal symbol of a "Nanny" state. People said the same with Drones. It will happen in Cali as well. The best we can do is ride like we have some god damn sense and obey the damn traffic laws, wear our gear and stop riding around looking like a bunch hooligans
@@GoldPantherEUC Drones and EUCs serve different purposes. In regard to your comment about “hooligans”. Only skilled riders will be seen going in and out of traffic. They do it because it enhances visibility. It's unlikely that EUCs riding behavior will be the sole cause of increased regulations. Other forms of transportation, such as large groups of motocross, quads and even cyclists , already navigate roads in significant numbers without triggering extensive regulatory changes.
@@GoldPantherEUC drone laws come from FAA right?
Anything that becomes common will be regulated.
I’m fine with registration and insurance for my euc.
I think roc was talking about banning euc. I agree california isn’t likely to ban them.
The audio and video were pretty good. Heard everything clear as day when you were riding. I knew stuff like this was going to happen eventually. It will be everywhere in a few years.
I’ve always thought this would happen. I feel guilty with the freedom of roaming around. Casually passing red lights.
The actual professional opinion of Lawyers is "no new laws." I think this is the only thing about lawyers with which I can imeedietly agree. There are two steps that I feel are possible solutions to the threat of new laws. One is that we jump ahead of them and propose a competing law. Two is that infrastructure is proposed to move forward with the technology. Bike paths can be shared. Sidewalks can be shared. Costs nothing and results in laws an official can say they passed a law--they are just dumb politicians.(I don't under-estimate their ability to screw things).Unless officials are given a solution they will come up with the dumbest one possible.
“Act and statutes (ie legislation) cannot become LAW without the CONSENT of the governed (we the people)”
Here in Germany it`s forbidden to ride it in public and the legislation says it`s not possible to get EUCs legal for they have no handlebars like bycicles and nor real breaks. Of course this is bullshit. But if they catch you, you may go to jail up to two years for it. You made a good point here: people out of the community who know how it is to ride an EUC have to raise pressure to make the politics work in our best sense.
As usual incompetent corrupt bureaucrats making shit up as they go along which could be seen as fraud or treason even!
These are NOT laws in fact but rather statutes and acts that CANNOT be given the force of law without the consent of the governed! We have been trained and conditioned nearly since birth to accept any none-sense these incompetent morons scribble down on a piece of paper by means of tacit consent. (Saying nothing in protest)
Federal government is a corporate body which has no jurisdiction over free living men and women!
as fellow German….actually the missing insurance is whats get us most in a legal sense! And the insuramce we mostly dont get because of the none existing redundancy/brakes….just saying
That's still the case?
It's the fucking handle?
That's BS because these cheap scooters are everywhere....
I am so glad I live in Austria where it's very calm when it comes to PEVs
@@sazzowl_gaming8203The cheap scooters are everywhere because the city can collect tax revenue from the scooter companies.
It is also crazy hard to bring the EUC into Israel, at it illegal here. But if you do manage to bring your wheel overboard (by parts or so...) it is perfectly fine to ride it, cops don't care if they see you.
It is funny that Germany and Israel are in this together...
"Their on to us. They understand now these aren't some rinky dink toys..."
Lmao that line cracks me up.
looked and sounded perfectly fine, great to see you back
Good rant!
Thank's George, i like the way you explain what we are going thru in the next couples years. here in Quebec we have some regulations that is not adapted to EUC
I had $3,500 budget for an EUC. Here in Cheyenne, Wyoming I have had 3 segway Mini's (upgraded from lite to pro then to plus) but now I wanted to step up but not too much h too fast so I went with the inmotion v5f. I plan to learn every trick and safety maneuver I can on it before I got to something more serious. Also I see alot of bad rep on electric vehicles here. Bikes have to be pedal assist only, my segway was never an issue so I figured I would ease the city into a unicycle on the sidewalks being responsible then one day when I'm ready I want one of those smooth big boys between my legs with all that raw power!
Thank you for the video. I have been waiting this to happen in several places, people do even race in city and near pedestrians. No wonder there is coming regulations.
It is very simple, don't endanger people and they don't whine to their favourite politician. Obviously some riders fail at this big time.
All of these started as toys but now as you said they are turning into something more and can get you around at the same speed as traffic(cars)
Never agree to the need for regulation. Our life is regulated enough. EUC's are still way too niche and small compared to electric bicycles. In California, by inference, we are covered by relatively new laws for electric skateboards, scooters, etc.
Isn't the New Hampshire motto, Live Free or Die? 😄
New Hampshire doesn't even have legal weed yet lol that motto is a farce
@@GoGeorgeLOL
I think his point is legislation is coming one way or the other. For some of us it is here already; we have a rider who has been given $4k in fines for riding an unregistered, uninsured vehicle *and* given points on his license so that affects his ability to drive actual cars; this is what happens when the legal system forces us into the existing legal framework. We can get ahead of it and ensure that any regulation makes sense for us or we can leave it to people who don't know about riding and would find the easiest option is just to ban us entirely.
The difficulty is that ordinary cycles can travel anywhere up to 100km/hr. Registering bicycles would be hard if not impossible. The same standard to a bicycle should be common to EUC/PEC. Also traffic lights would need to be altered to recognize bicycles/EUC/PEC "vehicles".
I live in Nashua NH and the city provides electric scooters all over the city during the warmer months.
I'd be all about getting a yearly sticker in ohio when the time comes.
Phone wrks fine. Thank you for this intelligent video.
Every infraction of liberty must be met with sudden and violent force, unless one would be ruled by bullying school marms who hate freedom, which is where we find ourselves now. You can be fearful or free, not both.
lawmakers already won when we agree to parts of their goal, NO RESTRICTIONS PERIOD Is what we should be aiming for! PERIOD, Do all you can as a rider to stop our names coming from their mouths! This video only helps their cause.
Good video George! Quality was great! I agree with ya on all the acceptable legislation. You’re doing good work just putting it out there for the community to see and be influenced to get involved.
Second that the video quality is great.
If they come back with low maximum wattage to control their speed - fight it on the grounds that it violates the rights of heavier people to enjoy the activity, and that the same motor that makes it go vroom also controls the brakes. I'm afraid of some ridiculous 750 watt (street legal) limit, like they did to e-bikes, which would make them toys for children.
750w is enough to make it comparable to a regular bicycle. A 500w Ninebot can already match a regular cyclist. So that's more then a kids toy.
@@bobdebouwer7835 you're clearly have no idea what you're talking about and how EUC works.
EUC with a 750watt motor is extremely dangerous for adults, especially men. It is not enough power to keep you on the wheel without deepening the pedals down and having faceplant.
You won't be able to ride over bumps, you won't be able to ride up a hill, you won't be able to effectively break in case of emergency as all this directly depending on motor power when it comes to EUC.
The stronger the motor - the safer the wheel that is obvious fact.
So yes, wheels like that are only for little lite children.
@@ShadKS18XL lol i have enough experience. A 500w ninebot is fine for calm riding. Just as fast as a normal bicycle.
Dont overlean.
@@bobdebouwer7835you're a funny dude. Ninebot is a toy for kids. Can't go uphill.
For adults over 70kg 1.5kW is absolutely the minimum that is required for riding, and even that is only if the wheel is fully charged and the surface is flat.
@@bobdebouwer7835plus, how is Ninebot one comparable to a bicycle? Regular bicycles can go up to 30mph no problem, especially downhill.
For EUC to match those speeds you need to have 2kW motor and about 1kWh battery pack. Something like Kingsong 18L or Inmotion V10F
Oh snap, Ann & Hope!! YEs George, it probably is coming at some point. Boston has invested MILLIONS to prevent cars from coming into the city. For Boston to even think about doing anytype of banning on PEV's would be crazy. Cant rely on the MBTA so whats one to do?
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Unfortunately, at the end of the day , is all about $$$$ more for them lest for us ,,,,,,, so many people switching from cars and public transportation to pev and they are not making $$$$ out of it ,,,,,,,,, " Reasons " will always be found to squeeze $$
exactly my friend. it is all about making money of it.
Thanks for talking about this, staying informed is tough with these things. Just hoping they don’t throw the baby (EUCs) out with the bathwater!
In Sydney electric unicycles are not an issue YET 😂. Because of the cost any decent unicycle starts at 3 grand up. America i think trys to ban anything electric powered they can't make a dim off 😂.
We still live in a system where people wants their cars and full authority of car lanes; they see the rest as slowing them down or inefficient use of lanes. For solid legislation, there also must be solid safety and dedicated, NOT SHARED, use of lanes for all. Permanent, visible markings for vehicles, and exclusive permanent marking for unprotected modes of transportation including bicycles. The system is taking steps, the changes are coming; however, slow. My 2 cents.
Just make an association, something like EUC Owners Association. Works best if you claim you need your EUC to transport your guns or something. Make sure to mention your freedom and all that stuff.
Or claim you need to it to get to an abortion clinic, or that it is a transgender mobile. All laws against them will be done away.
Yes we need a National association to be funded to fight theses laws!
Missed your vids.
The word compromise makes my skin crawl, we should not have any registration at all.
Its so frustrating to see people with political power who don't ride to just decide that they're going to heavily regulate something they have no idea about because they're not involved in said community at all. I'm in California were currently euc are legal according to existing ebike/pev law and we have some assembly woman wanting to propose ebike licenses and a registration fee because of a personal problem she has with rich parents buying their kids surons in her neighborhood, so she wants to basically blanket ban by heavily regulating ebikes (and euc since euc are covered by ebike law), her dumb bill got shot down twice but it keeps coming back like a disease.
The thing that needs to be emphasized with these regulations attempts is that a EUC is a dynamic vehicle, they're small enough that at low speeds they are safe to operate in bicycle heavy routes as well as areas with pedestrians while also being powerful enough to operate on roadways with vehicles going the same speed.
Definitely agree with the safety gear requirement, and the requirement to follow existing road laws, but honestly a huge heck no to registering or sticker tax that sets precedent for mandatory insurance. One of the whole reasons I and many other people got a PEV is because you don't have to register it and pay insurance like a car.
Yes George that idea is what needs to be done
In nj there is a bill proposed to make riding ebikes illegal unless they are registered and insured. This sucks man.
that's just a cash grab. if they could do it to bikes , they would
Yep corrupt bureaucrats unlawfully imposing constraints on “we the people”! Legislation is not Law and can never become law without the consent of the governed!
But can you register and insure an e-bike? We have the same situation here where e-bikes in some cases have to be registered and insured as vehicles but it most assuredly is not possible to do either of those things.
What happened to, “Live free or Die” in New Hampshire?
they dont even have legal weed yet lol
So for the rest of states in US...
People who are willing to give up their freedom for safety do not deserve it and won't have no freedom nor safety.
It changed to, "Get that POS off the road."
If we are going to be involved in these laws we should remember smaller wheels which are way less powerful below 750w motor, below 20mph and below 50 pounds weight to be excluded.
Some of us sold our cars avoiding stress of car tickets, unnecessary taxes, police harassment . Personally i hate being stopped for license and registrations.
At the end we can give the police chief a free EUC(i hope that welcomes him to our club).
motor size is not a good line; that discriminates against heavy riders; agree that the weight of the wheel might be good though; it's the only feature of a wheel I could get on board with using as a legal criterion
Fuc* that! I say no regulations
Video and audio quality was great.
In europe most countries mandate e scooters and such to be insured. They would give you a mini license plate sticker. But they regulate mfg. Speed control and distance and battery size. Some countries are totally banned. While doing homework in germany my local police know nothing about euc. Nor do federal police. But the motor vehicle dept vaguely gave me guidelines of legality. Must be under certain wattage/voltage, Amp hrs, under certain size dimensions, must be manufactured with set max speed of 20 to 25kmph not app controlled, and must not have range of specific distance as e scooters are "only designed for the last mile" in my searches for compliant euc I only found 1 that is a $500 cheap off brand that doesn't go much faster than a fast pace Walk defiantly not a bike even at slow pace. And weak battery that probly woukdnt do any good to self balance a normal euc and max range of 5 to 10km which wouldnt even get me to or from work. But as required to insure only a couple companies insure euc but not within germany yet. Some are false ads like liberty Insurance I recently reached out to unfortunately. They have ads with people on euc but yet don't insure.
Thx George for the context and info...is that 10 mile river trail? All good on video and sound. cheers
that one was the Blackstone river bike path, the 10 mile river is on the other side by attleboro
@@GoGeorge - thx George for letting me know...really excited to start riding new paths for my second season, being in Boston is a bit intimidating with traffic, so i love the bike paths and a ten mile one is luxury...hope to ride with ya some day. Your videos over the years have been really impactful for me, helping me get riding and giving me skill drills to practice...thx for all that you do.
*Video quality is great,* audio sounds a little hollow, a wireless mic like the Hohem Mic 01 would resolve that for a good price, I just bought one myself to use with my phone.
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yeah I agree the audio is terrible. I bought a little mic on amazon. hopefully that cleans it up 😊
So many people driving SUVs. At what cost? Regulations are already present enough to govern us. Reckless driving? Endangerment of others? Put the people causing problems in front of a judge. Leave the rest of us alone. It's a good hobby and saves the world pollution. Most riders are polite. Going forward in time this is a future transport. 70 years olds are learning to ride these. Don't ban the technology, ban bad behavior.
In my city(pittsburgh) the mayor doesn't want police pulling people over for secondary infractions let alone worry about electric stuff
Any loss of life is tragic but statistically speaking , micro-mobility fatality is a drop in the ocean compared to conventional modes of transport. The point is e-mobility is way too empowering to us average folk for the liking of the powers that be . Don’t stop there, shouldn’t cars, high buildings , knives, guns , alcohol, cigarettes, homelessness etc also be banned If these pen pushers care so much about public safety?! At the end of the day :-
“Good intentions are always pleaded for every assumption of authority!”
E-Bike lockdown is just another unlawful order which is actually an offer to contract which nobody is under any obligation to accept! Federal government is a corporate body which has no jurisdiction over free living men and women!
These are NOT laws in fact but rather statutes and acts that CANNOT be given the force of law without the consent of the governed! Corrupt bureaucrats meddling in the lives of the common man as usual! We have been trained and conditioned nearly since birth to accept any fraud these incompetent morons scribble down on a piece of paper by means of tacit consent. (Saying nothing in protest)
Micro_mobility is way too empowering for Joe average so they wait for an excuse to sneak in these unconstitutional arbitrary measures and refer to them as “laws”! How about a paedophile task force rather than one for e-transport!? Waste of public resources ie your tax dollars!
It's the guys going full send on the sidewalks and shit that are causing the problem.... If you are going 0ver 20mph you need to be in the street... We need to police our euc communities ourselves...
I'll never stop riding my rinky dink ebike! 😆
What would be an effective regulation that would enhance PEV adoption and safety? How about... 'if your PEV weighs more than 50% of your body weight, then it must be "insured" to ride on Public roads, otherwise local bicycle or horse regulations apply'.
{tl;dr. Fuck your regulations, and fuck the police.}
I believe that the PEV regulation movement has nearly zero to do with safety. Regulation, as has been proposed thus far, focuses on the classification of PEVs as 'motorized vehicles' for the purpose of including this category of transportation under the jurisdiction of law enforcement. The impetus is to include riders into the pool of persons whom are targeted for being stopped and 'identified' for minor traffic violations (or simple 'suspicious activity') so that the Police have an excuse run warrants on the General Public. There are 7-8 million outstanding warrants in the US for major criminal infractions, yet there are far more outstanding 'bench warrants' for other non-public safety violations, which disproportionately target disenfranchised and impoverished populations. Consider this a precursor to more "stop & frisk"/ unconstitutional law enforcement.
There are much better ways to regulate PEV safety but this discussion is not the intent of legislation; fascism is here to stay. When's the last time a bicycle or horse needed registration to ride on Public roads? There are hundreds of thousands of reported bike accidents per year and only ~700 deaths... and EUCs appear to have much safer outcomes so it's not the accidents rates causing regulation, it's simply a power-grab to get extract insurance and licensing fees while expanding Police-State population control and intimidation.
A proper discussion of effective regulation would be welcome but the existing proposed legislation is Draconian and disingenuous.
I didn't realize you were in NH. I used to live in Keene and know some NH state politics people (including some of the Free Staters-- they're an eccentric bunch). Your audio sounds fine by the way. Anyway, that was all good advice
He is in rhode island just like me
I absolutely admire some points of your views, like „everyone with half of a brain, must accept….“ „we live in a society, so compromises have to be made“, especially coming from a US citizen who love their „freedoms“.
to give some context: I am from a country where EUC is total ilegal, for the very one reason they are not insured. Insurance for motor driven vehicles on public ground is a must in our country, as our society does not want to have a „broke“ individual injure someone in traffic. So that there is always someone who pays. BUT: As Euc are none redundant you can NOT get an insurance….(VERY short explained)
I always asked myself when especially in the US the will start with regulation….because you hit the point: These Eucs are road capable and no toys.
How would society look if everybody can invent/do/drive whatever they want on public traffic? Guess we would have jet/kerosin driven bikes or so….
Dont get me wrong. Beside the illegality in my country i am a 8 year EUC veteran….and drive my Master V4 or CM mini every day.
But always with risk of getting a criminal.
So YES, there must be some kind of compromise. Agrre! In my country its dead because of the none redundnancy, high speed and no seperate brakes…..
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Quality is great. I think its educational to compare normal non-electric bicycles with EUCs. Now I realise some EUCs are faster and maybe that implies more legislation, but a normal racing non-electric bicycle is able to travel up to speeds of about 40km/hr or faster (I know, I"ve been on my KS cruising at 35km/hr and been overtaken by more than one), require no registration, no driving test, no specific insurance, no mandatory helmets even. Why is the new generation of Personal Transport so singled out? Maybe it is sufficient to simply extend the legislation for normal bicycles to include PEVs, perhaps given some kind of max limits to speed/power.
What about comparing to the situation in countries where PEVs are legal, e.g. France?
1:48 I watched the hearing as well and when he said clocked at 86 mph I almost fell off my wheel. Fucking bullshit not even close to reality!
It’s all No Nick No’s fault! 😂
They hate us cause they aint us..!!
Respectfully, I think this is a solution looking for a problem. There's not a mass market of EUC riders to take insurance payments worthy of state revenue. Any tax or insurance payments on PEV's would be punitive imo. But the issue isn't rider risk or pedestrian injuries. It's about the battery but and that's a secondary aftermarket retailer issue. The end user can only be responsible after the event caused by purchasing the battery. I guess the state and country you live plays a role. But, even in a suburb or rural town it's excessive. I just don't see how paying anything other than the price of the wheel protects me.
guess i need a faster wheel now
I'm a rider too for ten years. There is some fault with the euc riders as well. I've seen the people riding at 80 mph, I've seen them zig zagging between cars on the road, flying off the sidewalks across lawns and downstairs. Try riding with responsibility and to the rules of the road instead of thinking you can do what you want, when you want. If your going to ride with the cars, stay in your lane, don't ride through red lights, If you don't do that with a car, don't do it with a euc. And who wants to see a euc pass them on a bike path at 80 mph. Ride the speed limit and rules of the road. That should take the heat off.
But there will always be some that don’t use common sense, which is why we will need regulations once these devices get more popular, and they already have started getting popular.
Video was great. Which phone do you have?
galaxy s22 ultra
@@GoGeorge thanks.
In my hood I got old Navy Chiefs stopping me all the time telling me to get off my EUC. While their grand kids ride their electric scooters. Reason according to them they dont want a big adult crashing into their grand kids. Of course I tell off and I am so glad to do so as I hate Navy complicit chief to f off. Its all about perspectives
Politicians care about 2 things , getting re-elected and getting re-elected 😂.
Good topic 👍
11:01 It's hard to find a EUC Rider that respect traffic lights at least here in America. Congratulations, and it is true that we need to get involve in the new legislations
I initially respected them, but I don't anymore if the road is clear. There's no point. Unlike a car I have amazing visibility and agility to be 100% sure it's clear and that I can zip through before any other car is anywhere near the intersection.
I can't even find a bicycle rider that respects lights.
I would like it if they allowed registration and inshurance for on road use in MA.
At the same time they should be allowed off road also.
I disagree not until electric unicycle cruising speed of minimum 155 mph maximum Crossing Speed has to be 255 mph
I hope there’s a unicycle buyback. My 3d printer needs something to do.
Has not a thing to do with safety, rules of the road, etc. Stating obvious there…
Simply product and services. Once they create a product, we will be required to register and insure (who knows what metrics will be used to come up with a pricing model for said product/service).
It is about 2 maybe 3yrs away. All those T’s have to be crossed and I’s need to be dotted on new verbiage that will be applied to eucs.
They will take just a couple “bad”examples (most likely some large group rides in NY) and create their narrative for why this is so paramount to get into law. Imagine that another revenue source for states to mismanage, all under the guise of safety.
I could throw up on their feet.
The end game is money.
It’s always money.
Damn, I thought America was a free country.
To be fair...... people riding unregistered vehicles that are so powerful has a bitter aftertaste.... especially now when more and more people come into the scene.
But yea banning isn't definitely the way but a form of regulation kinda makes sense
The video quality is okay, but the audio is usable yet unpleasant. Consider buying a microphone. The new DJI Mic 2 has an amazing feature: it records internally as a backup track. If there are any cuts due to problems with Bluetooth connectivity, you can use the sound from the microphone itself.
yeah the raw audio is awful I had to play with a ton of filters just to get it to this point. mic is already in route
Whats nuts is some of us really cant afford a car with todays economy so like me i decided to sell my car & commute with a pev just cause its more practical in my current situation. So what now? Is the government gonna buy me a car and pay for gas, insurance and registration for it so i wont have to ride my pev? Im guessing not
You know that restrictions on what you can do while riding an EUC will be coming also.
We can only hope so.
our demands: no license, no reg. needed, stay within posted speed limits, leave us alone lol. keep up the good vigilance #NYC
They can take our EUCs, but they can never take our Freedom! - W. Wallace
I may paint my face blue, but I'm not wearing a kilt and riding my EUC.
george for mayor
New Hampshire? You mean the state that has the motto "Live Free or Die?" Jeez.
There is never a law that is favorable to freedom. Laws only restrict. Any new law is bad law. Personal transport should remain unregulated by the government
I vote for no law for euc. I vote to abolish cars! (Wrong way) 😜
This phone is working great for recording.
They just want us to have to register and pay money. It all comes down to money. I partially blame the young guys who ride crazy and then post it, like all those NY city riders.
When you register anything you are actually agreeing to give up ownership and instead becoming the “keeper” of the said possession! Legislation is NOT law but instead a form of contract which no living man or woman is under any obligation to consent to but don’t expect the corrupt bureaucrats to tell you that much though. Research “Common law” - We have been trained and conditioned nearly since birth to accept any fraud these incompetent morons scribble down on a piece of paper by means of tacit consent. (Saying nothing in protest)
Yes, NY is way to crazy, but the rest of EUC riders are ok, more or less, anyways, regulations doesn't stop motorcycle riders from doing crazy things, so regulation on EUC won't help with that.
Unfortunately, the council folks making laws DO NOT want riders inputs. You can see how they are bad mouthing the hobby by saying riders are speeding 86 mph., which is a big lie. Also, if more people use PEVs to get around, that mean its less tax revenue from car/ motorcycle registrations and insurance premiums that the city can't collect. In other words, its a money grab and a way for the city to generate more income. Lastly, if the city requires you to register your EUC, good luck trying to find a insurance company to ensure you.
That's what happens up north
Rent seeking behavior.
My road bicycle passes just about every PEV, but PEV's allow people with disabilities to keep pace.
EUC are a special case of PEV and need to be excepted from the current legislation being crafted, since they're boilerplating crap from Bikes for People instead of making sane laws that work properly and can be easily understood by cops and citizens.
It's horrible , in Russia smells the same... We must fight for our freedom
Hey George. Which EUCs do you still have in your stable ??
Do you still make that seat bracket for the Sherman S for the surron seat ? Saw Using mention you helped him with his.
I'm just curious & can't sleep 🤣😧 😴
I ride an ex30 and an ex20s . my buddy Jason is actually the one who did the sherman s seats
Nice. Two great EUCs. Ohh, ok, good to know about the seat.
Ohh, as your friend crashed his K6 yet ? 😂 You guys seem to taking bets when he would 😂
@@brianmccann666 not yet lol
you'd need a 15 kilowatts wheel to reach 86 miles an hour on flat ground
idk about NH, but most places already have laws in place for ebikes, and those just need to be adjusted to accommodate ANY vehicle.. because at the end of the day, that's the only issue: common sense for the speed that your vehicle is capable of, whether it's a car, ebike, or horse & buggy.
this has been coming for the PEV world, and particularly EUC, because people have just been stupid about how they're using them. Racing in the streets, cutting between cars in traffic, and I assume kids being kids-being irresponsible on pedestrian paths. most of the EUC CZcamsrs I watch recognize where it's all going, and advocate more common sense usage in mixed traffic situations, but, that only helps so much against the temptation of speed.
I want to emphasize that the people around here that I've seen on EUC have all behaved responsibly however, I've only seen a couple, but the bigger concern is that there's kids here (PRETEENS) on Suron style bikes that I've seen being irresponsible. no helmets, speeding through a busy parking lot. a different set of kids in another part of town cut diagonally through the middle of an intersection, against the light! not they checked, they didn't even stop to look at the light, just full speed, off the sidewalk to the opposite corner, not even a glance to the side to check traffic.
I'm not sure what laws would have done for that, it's not like these kids know the laws of would care if they did. the best they could do is limit the speed it can go same as they did for ebikes... if you want to ride with bike traffic, you need to go bike appropriate speeds, and if you want to ride with car traffic it needs to be capable of car equivalent speeds and braking... current EUC would not be able to use the freeway, too slow.
There's already countries that have outlawed EUC specifically, and I think that's going overboard, but if people weren't stupid about using them, no one would have taken any notice at all.
Just fold EUC's into either a bicycle class or as a mini motorcycle class.
Mandatory helmets is a terrible idea. Not all of us are speedsters. My riding is generally under fifteen miles (and even slower) an hour commuting between job sites.
agree 1,000,000%
The way I see it, I am all for helping keep these laws from coming into place, but at the end of the day if they pass I'm riding no matter what. Something as small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things like an electric unicycle is the last of police's problems. I can't see myself getting into any trouble for doing what I love, despite what others may pass to keep me from doing it. I've learned that if you're friendly and respectful to people who have questions or concerns with what you're doing, they will reciprocate that behavior.
sure… depends on the punishments though huh? i saw some guy say that in germany you can end up in jail
Yeah, have seen that several times, I'm going to Berlin Germany by train soon and was planning to bring my ks 16s to see more of the city... well I won't now 😅
until one day when a law-and-order cop notices you and decides to give you $12k in fines (which has happened here); and does it again to the same rider; and a third time. You ride enough in a world where your ride is not explicitly legal you will get into trouble eventually.
There is going to be a speed limit, set much lower than we'd like, prob 17-23mph. Regulation isn't going to come from someone with an understanding of the vehicle and the riders. Don't expect anything "rational".
I think the point here is that we as riders need to help the someone who will be doing the regulating to understand what we do and how we ride.
To the cops who will be trying to come after me all I can say is: GLHF
my KS s22 was confiscated here in NL... still trying to get it back
You don't want the worst suspension wheel back...
Excellent video George! They presented a bill in New Jersey but it fell flat. Now they'll say it could take a few years to come up with something that's fair for everyone.
Actually, the first thing should be to find out what the problem is with the EUCs.
riders' safety?
speeding?
or simply their existence?
they can be considered a serious danger to pedestrians, small children, dogs etc., when ridden at speed on sidewalks and some bike paths for example. No one cares if we endanger ourselves; politicians will care deeply when we start injuring other people
@@yegwheel You don't seem to care about your own safety but, ride out in front of a car and guess who gets sued!!
@@lylejohnston4125 dumb comment