Robert Morris Claims Jesus Taught Tithing
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- čas přidán 16. 02. 2024
- Robert Morris has made millions by preaching lies and deceiving people into thinking they have to tithe and give money to his church. He is a false teacher and a phoney. In this video false teacher Robert Morris tricks his gullible audience into thinking that Jesus commanded Christians to tithe. He ignores the context of Jesus words and his audience just has no idea because they don’t read their bibles. If the church he was preaching to read their bibles for themselves they would be able to see that Jesus was speaking to the scribes and Pharisees and the scribes and Pharisees were Jews living in the promised land under the Old Covenant. Even a child could see this but no one in Robert Morris’s church seems to realise this. Why? Because they are spiritually lazy and won’t study the Bible for themselves. Instead they rely on false teachers like Robert Morris.
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If pastors today emphasized on repentance the way they emphasize on tithing there would be less false converts today.
Either way we will still have false converts.
@@peterlona7835 but not as much as it is today.
Exactly. Obedience is better than sacrifices.
If you love God, then obeying malachi 3:10 is easy. Many christians struggle in their finances so trusting God with your tithes is the answer! Anyone who tells you not to tithe is a False teacher sent by the devil who operates in fear! Fear that God wont be faithful in your finances 😊
@@marwat8741 Malachi 3:10 is not about money. Tithing never was about money according to the bible.
Those rock-concert remodelings of churches here in the US aren't going to pay for themselves!
Exactly. Tithe = pay my building utilities and for my new Mercedes.
They should do what the rock concerts do: sell alcohol!
And if you're Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, or Creflo $$, you'll "need" a new jet, because, after all, the Gospel can't be spread around the world without them, and in the words of Copeland, you would not want to fly on an airline with a bunch of "demons"...
@brianmoore581 they already have a coffee bar
That doesn't require anyone to pay 10 percent of their paychecks to pay for it
So should everyone take him our first lamb, our first calf, grain and vegetables etc so that we can have a big feast together? That's what a tithe was - not money! 😂
Exactly!!
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Correction! Money was part of the tithe for those who lived too far.
Deuteronomy 14:22-26
22 Thou shalt surely tithe all the increase of thy seed, that which is brought forth in the field year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which He shall choose to cause His name to dwell there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herd and of thy flock; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always
24 "And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it, because the place is too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set His name there, when the LORD thy God shall bless thee- 25 THEN SHALT THOU TURN IT INTO MONEY, and bind up the money in thy hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose.
26 And thou shalt bestow the money for whatsoever thy soul desireth, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul asketh of thee; and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou and thy household.
@@humbertothebeliever2443 Obviously if you had to travel a long distance (which could take days or weeks) much of the offering would be rotten by the time you arrived at the appointed offering site. Money was only part of the tithe to buy the offerings locally. The money was not to be given to anyone except to the vendors who sold what the buyer needed to complete the offering.
Nowhere in the Word of God is the tithe described as "first" - this comes from mixing of the very different concepts of the tithe and first fruits by poor/false teachers. In fact when it comes to calves and lambs, it was the tenth animal to pass under the staff (Lev 27:32), so it was the last, and a maximum of one tenth.
I have to admit that as a former Charismatic teacher and preacher, I once preached this very thing. Then one day, I did an intense study on tithing. I had to adjust my position. I don't always agree with you, but I agree 100 percent with you here. Technically, the gospels are not NEW TESTAMENT. Jesus had not died yet. As you stated, the New Covanant was not in force yet. Jesus would not have told the Pharisees NOT to keep Torah. What people fail to ask is why does tithe/tithing never show up in Paul's writings? Hebrews 7 literally says the Levitical carnal command of receiving of tithes was made void. The tithing message is the core of the Charismatic belief system. It's just flat out not Biblical.
I have a genuine question: what is your interpretation of Hebrews 7:8, which reads, And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth..
I read a Charismatic pastor pointing to this verse to argue that tithing is still for today because Jesus as High Priest now receives it from the church. What say ye?
@shawnhiltibidal I have to agree with you completely. The New Covenant was not in effect yet and that is why Jesus directed the man who he healed of a skin issue to go to the priest because that is what the Law required. Most of the detail of the priests duty to examine skin issues is in Lev 13 and some in Lev 14.
I did the same thing. It doesn’t even take long to study it out and come to the conclusion that tithing is under the old covenant. Unfortunately most believers just believe what the preachers say and get defensive when you try to tell them the truth. I really wish believers would study out the doctrines that are taught behind pulpits
What are examples of guilt tripping people into tithing?
Wow I finally heard someone say the gospel letters ARE NOT new covenant testament will. This is biblical and why so many people are double minded unstable in all things for centuries. Robbers in the pulpit
Let's all show up to Robert Morris' church next week with bushels of produce in addition to goats, cows, chickens, etc. and tell him we are bringing the tithe...
While we are there we could ask him what he did with the priests and the Levites the tithes are supposedly being used to support...
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GOOD ONE AMEN❤
And to the fatherless, homeless, and widows. That is who the tithes goes to.
Deuteronomy 26
12 When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing,
and hast Given it unto
the Levite,
the stranger,
the fatherless,
and the widow,
that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
13 Then thou shalt say before the Lord thy God, I have brought away the hallowed things out of mine house, and also have given them unto
the Levite,
and unto the stranger,
to the fatherless,
and to the widow,
according to all thy commandments which thou hast commanded me: I have not transgressed thy commandments, neither have I forgotten them.
Luke 16
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died,
and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom
Luke 10
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said,
He that shewed mercy on him.
Then said Jesus unto him,
Go, and do thou likewise.
And eat it there Deut 14:23
EXCELLENT OBSERVATION
If only "preachers" would be as adamant about telling followers to witness to the unsaved as they are about tithing.
I was just thinking the same thing
And if only one preacher would be adamant that there are prerequisites, before one can engage into witnessing this would even have some value.
I do however get the point that this is too much about 'church finances' and not about 'functioning ministry'.
In the end it isn't about 10%, but about 100% and well, that 100% isn't for 'the church'... It's for whatever God command.
Thieves in the pulpit 😮
@@TheRealRenn How does that Scripture apply here?
In a New Testament, the church would collect moneys, but it was distribute amongst the church members. Those who were bored also were widows. Those who had needs it wasn't for an administer to keep it for himself.
Man I can't stand it' when I hear lies about our God ❤.
Boy they all must be hurting financially all the begging and manipulation, people would just check and see how much they're worth they would stop giving these greedy selfish thieves their money.
You also must think about , when they tell you to tithe to pray about it and ask the Lord how much, then they say don't you trust him.
Well I just want to say don't they trust him where their money's coming from , that they have to manipulate Khan and lie, cheat and steal from the congregation.
Yes they are. These mega church ministries have massive overheads that's why many of them are always begging
@@kevinevans8892It's expensive maintaining a mansion with staff, airplane and fuel, etc....
- let's cut to the chase, Mr.Morris want yo cash.
Man … I’m supposed to Tithe and follow the other Old Testament laws now? I’d better make an appointment to get my circumcision done! 😱
Haha… Young Don Reborn actually did that!!! Lol
@@iThinkBiblically Yikes! 😱
Oh my lol
you won't have to get circumcised because no thief gets to go to heaven...you are a thief to with-hold tithe read 1st Cor 9.13-14
@@DavidKing-qd3sp Well, if I have to pay a tithe to the Levites, I’ll go thru the phone book to find the first guy with the last name of Cohen and write him a check. 👍
I wish that they will preach about repentance and salvation, not constantly about money.
Supposedly Jesus talked more about money than repentance according to a pastor at a church I used to go to…..
You're absolutely right repent and return to the one holy Catholic/global an apostolic church the original one the church of the first apostolic years the real orthodox church
@@user-fp3fw3zc9i naw I’m good.
They can't give what they don't have. They can't teach what they have either not experienced or what they don't understand. Moreover, they would rather have a full congregation who feeds on crumbs than have people who feed on whole meal/full bread.
Not only was the tithe never money, Leviticus says you can buy back your tithes by adding an extra 20% of its value. Imagine going to Morris and asking to buy back what you paid him, since buying money with money makes no sense.
It's the difference between principle and implementation. Why did God command tithing to begin with?
@@wilsonsmanz It was for the levites because they were not given a land inheritance to supply their own crops and livestock.
Tithes were paid by Abraham. Part of Levi was he?
@@TheRastacabbageAbraham was not commanded to tithe. It only records of him doing it once.
@@dr_that_guy doesn't answer my question does it?
Yeshua spoke about giving to the poor, not giving to a Church.
Stop giving these people your money
Twisting scripture to put guilt on people to get MONEY! I am so sick of these Churches and Pastors.. I dont go to church anymore, Maybe to see some other believers. I believe in "giving to the poor", and as long as you do that, God will Bless you!
Agree. I feel like God has left most of the church because they only want attendance, tithing, and entertainment, which compromises the truth.
You don't have to be fire and brimstone to just kindly tell the truth.
It shouldn't be a goal to be hated, but preachers should expect most of the world to hate the truth
It is things like this, among other things, that motivated us to plant a home church. It is small but we are not looking for numbers and we are faithful in meeting and reading and studying God’s word and encouraging one another in the Lord. We will see what is next but we will remain faithful to God’s word. We have also been doing Bible prophecy seminars and there has been quite a bit of interest in it and I thank God for that especially in the days in which we are living.
Good Job brother. The Holy Spirit is our teacher. and Jesus said: My sheep hear my voice and follow me. The early Church Christians would meet in Homes, and I think today it is the best way to stay close and support one another.@@gregmatz3693
It depends on your view of "giving" to the poor, congratulations to communism and socialism thinking it's helping the poor, if there was a crippled poor person I'd help them out but most of them need to work
you have to you wisdom when giving, but then dont make it a excuse and be selfish and turn your eyes away from the poor! If you do, you will have many curses!@@MisertheWizer
My friend and I are incredibly stubborn and we went back and forth on this for days. I presented my arguments and he still disagreed , without even making any rebuttals based on scripture. These are the points I used and many of them line up with the video.
Why the Bible doesn’t teach Tithing for us Today
1.Tithing is never mentioned in regard to money, it only refers to grain, soil, fruit, and animals; even though they had and used currency in the Old Testament and the New Testament. (Luke 11:42) (2 Chronicles 31:5) (Leviticus 6:14-23) (Leviticus 27:30)( 2 Chronicles 31:5)
2.Tithing is never mentioned after Christ’s crucifixion and resurrection when the New Covenant was made, it is mentioned only beforehand with the Pharisees while they were still under the Old Testament Law. (Luke 11:42)( Matthew 23:23)
3.Tithing when calculated came up to around 20%-23% instead of 10%, this was a result of the Levitical Tithe, Festival Tithe (for religious festivals), and the poor tithe (every 3 years to foreigners, orphans, and widows) (Numbers 18:21-24) (Deuteronomy 14:22-27) (Deuteronomy 14:28-29)
4.Sacrificial Giving is what replaced tithing, under the new grace that we are in, thanks to The New covenant brought about by Christ crucifixion and resurrection. (Matthew 5:17) (2 Corinthians 9:7) (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15)
5. We are Gentiles so the Old Testament laws which include tithing don't even apply to us.( Galatians 3:23-25) (Ephesians 2:15)
I used to go Morris's Church (Gateway) but after attending a event by Justin Peters (Clouds without Water I believe), along with other CZcams channels like these, I stopped going and have become more vigilant ,and somewhat suspicious of people who call themselves pastors in todays age. From my perspective , it is either ignorance or deliberate, and if you are purposefully misleading people when it comes to tithing then how I can trust you with everything else. I now refer to a majority of these people as motivational speakers. I don't know if they were ever present but the days are gone when you can trust someone to speak and teach on God's word. Now , its just wiser and safer to be like the Bereans and take responsibility of what you are reading and hearing instead of solely relying on others.
I totally agree with you brother and everything that you say but I just wonder do you still consider your friend a brother in Christ even though he's wrong on the matter? It sounds like you do. And it sounds like to me that he is.
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I stopped believing the tithe lie years ago and God continues to bless me! The tithe message makes me want to throw up! It’s sickening!
Morris reminds me of a used car salesman who looks and talks like he's a clean cut, ethical person -- but in reality he is so unethical that the Devil actually tips his hat to Morris in terms of respect. This is because Morris, due to his unethical nature, would be able to easily sell someone a old beat up, high mileage Yugo which he re-badged as a low mileage BMW. SMH.
Excellent analogy!
Almost every time I see that guy , he’s shaming people for cash ! SMH !
God loves a joyful giver. If your not joyful about it, then what's the point?
That verse is actually about giving to the poor
@@iThinkBiblically forgiving is the highest level of giving
No, Abraham did not pay one dollar out of his wallet to Melchizedek.
The giving of tithes should definitely not be done because it's a legalistic obligation. Christians who give tithes should do so out of gratitude and a loving relationship with Jesus. Christians who don't give tithes should bear in mind that Jesus emphasized that a life under the new covenant must meet a higher standard than a life under the law. An example of this is when Jesus talks about adultery in Matthew 5:27-28: "You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Believers are thus called to maintain a higher standard under the new covenant in Jesus than the expectation was under the old covenant. This also applies to giving tithes and generosity.
Great teaching! This blows the mind of so many Christians stuck in their traditions.
My jaw was hanging down the WHOLE time this horrid man was speaking!!! These people are embarrassing. I am soooooo thankful for people like you Caleb, who speak the truth!!! I am also thankful that I was raised by a mom (my dad left us, came home, got mad and left again 11 times over 21 years. He really was just having affairs) who believed the truth, knew the truth, and taught us the truth!! And that I was raised with a strong foundation that I never have had any reason to be led astray by these huxsters and sweet talkers!! And now I, as a single mother of children I adopted from foster care, am able to lead my generation to the truth and on a strong foundation as well!! It's so scary being a mom nowadays and the way people are shoving lies in children's faces and ears on a daily basis!! I beg the Lord to keep His hand on my babies and lead them to Him!!
He is horrid. When a pastor frightens his flock if they don't tithe is a month peice for satan. He loves money more than the truth.
All these churches & congregations preach the prosperity gospel
No talk about repentance and humbleness
No talk about confession repentance and talk to any pastor real pastor any priest to confess
💰Greed$$Greed$$Greed💰. Truly Sad. God 🙏 Bless ✝️💛.
'You may spend the money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatever your heart desires; and there you shall eat in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice, you and your household.' Deuteronomy 14:26
In Acts 26:20, Paul said the ministry to the Gentiles had three steps: “repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.” Modern false preachers are trying to do that whole process in reverse order.
AWESOME MESSAGE
Thanks brother, what you teach about tithing is the truth. The new testament way of giving is of a joyful heart.
The subject of Tithing is always these prosperity teachers(Creepers)favorite priority!
I just recently maybe in the past two years come to have a better understanding of tithing. I had been taught what most pastors teach today but the greater question is
How did ALL these pastors/preachers seminary or not seminary trained get tithing all wrong 🤔
The tithe was on the PRODUCE (food) that the people grew. Look specifically at verses 25 & 26, which shows that they did indeed use MONEY in the Old Testament. The tithe was more like today's potluck and had nothing to do with giving anyone money.
Deuteronomy 14:22-26
22 "You shall surely tithe all the PRODUCE from what you sow, which comes out of the field every year.
23 "You shall eat in the presence of the LORD your God, at the place where He chooses to establish His name, the tithe of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and your flock, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.
24 "If the distance is so great for you that you are not able to bring the tithe, since the place where the LORD your God chooses to set His name is too far away from you when the LORD your God blesses you,
25 then you shall exchange it for MONEY, and bind the MONEY in your hand and go to the place which the LORD your God chooses.
26 "You may spend the MONEY for whatever your heart desires: for oxen, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatever your heart desires; and there you shall eat in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice, you and your household."
Agree 100%. Another take I have is what about the other specific numbers mentioned in Old Testament Law? A woman going through a 33 day purification ritual if having a male child but a 66 day ritual for a girl? Why do some want to cling to the 10% belief but largely ignore these other details? Answer is we don't have follow any of the law.
I went to a church in East Mesa AZ form 5 months, trying to make friends and hear the word of God, then the pastor decided to live stream this demon Robert Morris, and he preached his typical manipulative "you have to tithe or else" sermon. That was it, I never went back.
”And this memorial pillar I have set up will become a place for worshiping God, and I will present to God a tenth of everything he gives me.”“
Genesis 28:22 NLT
”“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law-justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.“
Matthew 23:23 NLT
Caleb, what is your understanding of alms? We see many mentions of alms in Scripture, I've never fully understood what they were (are). It usually seems to be giving currency in reference to the poor and needy. I would appreciate your thoughts on this.
Sure. Alms is giving to the poor. In Australia we pay taxes and taxes pay for a social security system. There is no need for alms here unless people are misusing there money on drugs or something.
He used the “loaded question fallacy” and “the appeal to authority fallacy” to manipulate the congregation. (Shaking My Head) 😢
Tithing is giving, simply. In my case, before I had attended a church after being saved, the Lord put on my heart to tithe 10% of my net income. I'm not saying all should tithe 10% but I know the Lord leads His people to give back. Why? Because it is not only more blessed to give but it is also a trust issue. If you feel you should give but are reluctant because you fear running short, this is an issue you need to take to the Lord. Luke 21:1-4, "And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury. 2 And He saw a poor widow putting in two small copper coins. 3 And He said, “Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all of them; 4 for they all out of their surplus put into the offering; but she out of her poverty put in all that she had to live on.” She put in all because she trusted the Lord to provide. We are all born sinners and so into poverty. If you can't give out of your surplus, give of your time to help others.
Jesus was addressing Jews who were still under the Mosaic Law. Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the Law on the cross. The Apostle Paul (who knew the Law better than anyone) warned against trying to practice the Law (including tithing) in the book of Galatians. Tithing is not giving; giving, not necessarily to a church organization, and with a good heart is the standard for NT Christians (2 Cor 9). It's truly amazing how many Christians switch off their discernment and suck up anything which comes from the pulpit. (At least this man is not as aggressive and insulting as At Boshoff).
Exactly
Abraham paid tithes. Under the mosaic law was he?
@@TheRastacabbage On the spoils of war. Anyway Abraham was already wealthy. He received the blessing of Melchizedek first. Circumcision also existed before the law. I don't see too many churches demanding that nowadays.
@@jonathanhall7815 you said many things, not one of which deals with the question
@@TheRastacabbage obviously he was not under the mosaic law, which Jesus fulfilled on the cross. Anyway, this is a contentious topic, so you have to make a choice which way you want to go. I personally practiced tithing meticulously for 7 years with a good heart, and ultimately became disillusioned and realised it is not applicable to NT believers. Giving with a good heart (2 Cor 9) is the standard for the NT believers, and this is what I practice in my life including giving to the church I attend. So, if you want to go ahead with tithing, by all means do it.
We attended this church for 6 years. So grateful to God for getting us out of there!
I once heard a pastor was asked how much of your income should you give to God. He replied you should give it all to God.
What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only thing GOD wants from us is our obeiance to him, not money.
That pastor is a mouth piece for satan.
@@A.O.T.CThe meaning is that you should use all your money for God’s glory.
Years ago, I quit my job and worked full time for the church I was attending for no pay. (I lived off of investment income.) I did that for four years which I consider ten percent of my working life. After I left that cult…I mean church…my employment prospects were derailed and have not been able to ever make more than a third of what I was making before. I am done with tithing and being manipulated into tithing. I have given my 10%.
So Morris conviently leaves out that the tithe goes specifically to Levites. If Jesus went against it prior to the cross, that would have been problematic. The Levitical priesthood and its protocol, its ordinances have been fulfilled in Christ and his sacrificial offering of Himself. The New Testament giving involved taking care of incompacitated family members first like widows (I Timothy 4).
Love your simple explanation of issues that arise. Greed man, leads to all kinds of evil even the kind that might look good and sound good when u have an unlearned audience. I truly feel bad for these types of people when they will have to give an account for all this oppression of the flock and much nonsense that in my opinion doesn't stir people up to love and good works, but I feel more like a hey I give my money and go on Sunday and do what my greedy pastor tells me I'm doing God's will. I wonder if the people that attend these churches are willing participants in these fiascos
I can't believe that Morris is so ignorant as to use Matthew 23:23 in this way out of it's original obvious context
Yeah I know and he gets away with it cause no one there reads the Bible…
@@iThinkBiblically Another thing they use to promote tithing is to talk about Abraham tithing to Melchisadeck (Sorry not quite sure of spelling)? I wonder if you have commented on this in the past?
@@GI4JYT He said so 7:50.
@@matthew8054 Yes I wrote that before the end and thanks for pointing it out. Due to poor vision I can''t find the video where he talks about Abraham, but perhaps I'll find it in due course?
@@GI4JYT He seemed to not put in the link
I just learned a sentence last night, and I think it fits here well. "Evangelical industrial complex." I believe these false preachers fit right into this category, with all their conferences (you have to pay to get into) their book deals, (you have to pay money to buy), its ridiculous. Making merchandise out of Gods bride. 🤨
On a better not. Could you tell me, brother, what are the names of the books that are behind you?
"Evangelical industrial complex." is a good one. And in fact they have more in common with the "military industrial complex", to which this alludes, than they can imagine
@@ApenasUmSenhor for sure.
Another great video. I was recently talking to someone about tithing and they told me about the principle of first fruits. Can you explain where that is wrong.
You're exactly right, Jesus taught under the Old Covenant, he established the New Covenant with his death, and it was implemented on the Day of Pentecost. As New Covenant believers we should want to give to the building of the Kingdom, willingly not out of compulsion, but out of Love, because He first loved us, we serve a wonderful Savior!!!
John chapter 1 Jesus Is The Word, The Truth
Genesis to Revelation
In Malichi chapter 3 Jesus The Word Of God said your words are strong against Me, you are cursed with a curse
Vs 10-12
Bring the tithe & offering into the house of God & try Me
Yeah, it's a free will donation to help ministers nowadays. Paul received help from churches and encouraged giving, but it was out of generosity, not compulsion.
One of the biggest issues that harm the church is the "professional" pastor. They become some sort of CEO at best or a celebrity at worst. And neither resemble a shepherd that watches over the flock.
The antenicean fathers taught we no longer tithe but use ALL our possessions for God. I want to scream at pastors that say "You are under a curse because you don't tithe". One church i was at the pastor said to the congregation "Stand up if you tithe.... All those sitting down look at the people that being obedient to God". I questioned one of my friends after the service who stood up. "Do you tithe on everything, including money given to you for birthdays, your superannuation, bank interest etc, and do you do it every single week? He replied no as sometimes we have school fees or bills and cant afford to" Christians are even shamed into lying rather than standing up (or sitting down in this case) and confronting false teaching... God says in the NT to give and give generously!
Monetary tithing does not exists in the Bible. The word of God does not tell us to pay tithes with money. In fact God went out of His way to show us that He never wanted money as a tithe. He told them that if they were too far from the place where He had designated for the tithe to be eaten, they were to exchange it (sell their tithe) for money. Then when they reached the place where they were to celebrate in eating the tithe before the LORD, they were to spend the money on whatever their soul desired to eat and drink (Deuteronomy 14:24-27).
Amen. It's time to get the truth out there!
I use to attend a church where tithes and offerings were preached every Sunday. They would use the Malachi verse all the time!! I once said to myself, I'll read Malachi for myself. And lo and behold the verse said to bring the tithes into the warehouse where the tithes can be stored. I thought well every Sunday the pastor bangs on about the Malachi verse does that mean if I've fallen on hard times and I need money to pay my rent, or feed myself, or my family, or pay my mortgage, or pay a bill from a Specialist Doctor etc. Will my church/pastor give me that money I've put into "the storehouse" to help me out? The answer is OF COURSE NOT. Not once did that church give me money from "the storehouse" That's when I realised Malachi was taken out of context. Modern day pastors wages are from the congregation. Paul supported himself by working i.e. making tents as well as preaching the gospel, as well as writing letters to the churches he started, as well as travelling and making new converts, as well as mentoring Timothy etc. Modern day pastors are nothing like the original apostles and certainly nothing like Paul. I really would like to meet a pastor who actually works for a living as well pastoring.
We know of two Pastor's who work full time elsewhere and Pastor's a church full time. Great, caring, down to earth Pastor's. One in Port Hueneme California- Pastor Clarence with Southport Baptist Church, and Paso Robles or Templeton California by Pastor Bruce Fore, Victory Baptist Church. God bless 🙌
If jesus AS A JEW DID NOT TITHE WHY WOULD A CHRISTIAN
If you don’t want to tight don’t tight but don’t stop people to tight, in my life I experienced I am as I am today because I obey What God told me to do and I always teach my children to give what belongs to God. I give tight because of his blessing.
You can honestly go into more detail and talk about how the tithe was to be eaten as a meal of thanksgiving and a portion was meant to be shared with the priests since they had no inheritance in the land. It was never about giving money and it was always to be enjoyed personally as thanks to God. If you want to give to your church (and you should) then it's to support other believers and to support those who preach the Gospel so they can make their living by it. That is what the NT teaches. But it's not compulsory and it isn't a set amount. It's generosity to help those who are helping you and who are suffering
That was the festival tithe… :) Yeah, I talked about that in one of my videos as well as the first fruits.
Where your heart is so is your treasure, who pays for church building, is pastor to not to be paid, who is to pay for missionarys, aren't we supposed to help people in need
Thank you once again! 🙏🙏🙏
Notice Morris bought a mansion right door to the Day Star family. They like use Malachi 3:8 but they don’t study the Bible. This is talking about during Nehemiah time the priest and the Levi was mishandle the tithes.
GOD willing,that person that questioned him will see your explanation and run for the front doors and never look back!!
Are these false teachers really "money not enough"?
Why do churches downgrade to the level of money? Do you not have enough to eat steaks or do you want to eat gold?
So shameful act as a pastor.
This is what they say to us in church all the time, to tithe 10% of your wage. I am so tired of them always asking and I don’t even go to church anymore. I do support monthly for Christian causes. These churches brings the tray every Sunday for tithe. There are no proper churches anymore. I pray to God that I will find a proper church soon.
Great video. Thank you, sir.
Leave Babylon. The confusion of Sunday worship churches. Obey the 4th Commandment and worship God on the Sabbath. You'll find grace and peace.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't (tithe)....... I am happy to share what I have willingly with others but I won't be sent on a guilt trip when I don't give 10% to some denominational or non-denominational set-up, with or without a building. It is manipulation, domination and control to get unsuspecting believers to pay into someone else's ambition for their setup or denomination. Denominations are like the mint, anise and thyme. When we had land, we often gave plums, potatoes, marrows, tomatoes etc. to others. However these wolves in sheep's clothing do "need" private jets to "get the gospel out" - they also need earthly mansions, bouncers at their crusades to protect them from their too adoring fans..... just in case they don't get healed after they swing their little white jackets into the crowd. Their scams are pathetic and sad. We just need to open our eyes to what is going on......
Robert will often use his own stories of "generosity" to encourage others to give. Whether this is in fact true or just a manipulation tactic, one thing is for sure, it isn't what Jesus tells us to do in Matthew 6:1-4 ... "When you give to someone in need, don't do as the hypocrites do - blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity!" My personal believe is that he does this as a manipulative ruse.
Keep exposing these “pastors” brother Caleb, they are truly keeping their congregations under a curse. Robert Morris should repent and step down from the pulpit. What a disgrace.
This is so sad brother Caleb, these charlatans and hucksters think, by having a big mega Church with a massive number of followers is "GOD'S BLESSING", but in the actual sense, it's the opposite (IT'S GOD'S JUDGEMENT UPON THEM ALL)
👉 2 Tim 4:3..., 2 These 2:9-12
Jesus taught under the old covenant. New covenant doesn’t come into effect until Jesus’ death and resurrection.
Jesus also said to do what the Pharisees said to do:
Matthew 23:1-3:
1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
I'm quite confident that the Rev. Morris would also be preaching this if he thought it would help transferring your tithes from your pocket to his. . .
Those false teachers are preaching that God is in need of money.
Hi Caleb God bless, would be you able to make some videos on your opinion on Christmas, Easter and lent and if they’re biblical or not? I know Christmas is definitely pagan especially by reading scripture but would love more light on those holidays. Cheers
Great teaching brother, also a previous teaching you done on tithing really helped me. I recently was invited to a WhatsApp bible study group from my old church members, and this Robert morris teaching was the study focus. We had to read the daily devotional that went along with the video, then leave a comment on how the teaching spoke to us that day. I was politely asked to stop leaving comments as it might upset the group as I was challenging the group with scriptures and telling them that it was false teaching. Wasn’t long before I was out of the group.
Haha 😂 it’s great you were challenging them!! I really hope the videos on tithing have had a ripple effect in the church world!!
can someone please answer one question for me ...... which verse points to the fact that pastors don't have to work a normal job, that they are to leave there profession and preach full time
None. They are not to be fully relying on the church. This is a Big misconception people have thinking that the church is supposed to support the Pastor. There is no scripture for this. My dad is a Pastor and I once heard. long ago him saying the tithes is for the Pastor. This is Not True at all in fact they can get it a lot of trouble for this.
I "tithe" of all my produce... by praying thanksgiving over it before eating.
I heard one of his sermons where he told the story of his son in law to be that he didn't pay his tithing on the same day he was paid . He questioned him about it because he didn't want a "robber" to mary his daughter...
I was shocked . First of all it is between the person and God . And second its not pastor' s business..
I stopped watching his preaching after that.
The tithe is the old covenant law between the Jews and God, anything to do with giving in the New Testament is in the book of acts, we are actually to have all things in common in the group we join or the assembling ourselves together, not some modern day church corporation so the pastors don't have to go out and get a job and work with their own hands like Paul did and he considered it robbery to take from the churches, as he said he did the same as in example on how we should conduct ourselves, it's really sad that we as true Christians have allowed the charlatans to come in and take for themselves money that is meant for the Saints to survive, it's sad to see these men come in and profit off the name of Jesus Christ.
Love your teaching. Wish pastors were honest with themselves.
The book of Malachi was God's final individual indictment of 1) the PEOPLE , 2) The PRINCES, 3) the PRIESTS and 4) the PROPHETS to make it easier for each to correct their ways and collectively experience once again, His blessings and promises. In 2:15, he explained and showed them what they were doing wrong and how to correct it and why they- the real people of God must hold sacred their marriage vows in between themselves because no one knows through which of their tribes or a particular family, the Messiah would come, which may not be possible if they divorced their wives or married strangers from the covenant. The 3rd chapter was about the neglecting of the Priests and Levites- who solely depended on all the tithes of the first fruits of their fields Numb. 3-18, since they were not given inheritance among their brethren in order to keep the charge of God on behalf of the people, but with no sustenance, they began to wonder about to fend for themselves and the work of the temple was neglected and their was no blood sacrifice to placate God towards the people as they must shoulder the sins of the people, they could no longer maintain their sanctification and holiness towards God, and consequently, the temple doors were shut and enemy was able to come in to destroy the temple because the presence of God had departed already. Before they became wholly rejected, God gave them a final plea and threatened should they refuse, He would have to usher in a new dispensation- He would no longer deal with them as before, but He would send Elijah to finish the work he left uncompleted on the mount- he was supposed to bring Israel back to God, instead he killed all the 850 prophets of baal and asherah and became a fugitive begging for God to take his life- God took him up to send him back for God's commission can never be left uncompleted (the same for Moses). Elijah will return to complete his mission and his body will pay for it's act (2 Corinthians 5:10), and then the way would be paved for the ultimate sacrifice of the Lamb of God- prepared from the foundation of the world to become the propitiation for the sins of the world- not just of Israel, whom God has concluded as fallen short of His glory-just like the world around them. Then His glory and presence left the temple and rested on the mount of Olives- where the glory of God rested in Ezekiel 8-11:23 and where Jesus also ended His earthly ministry Matthew 24:3, and to where He will return Zechariah 14:4. The garden of gethsemane was just across from the mount, which gave Him a glimpse of the glory that awaits Him, so He could bare the cross to the end. That is the same mount where He was transformed before His disciples and before his death, so He could as well be encouraged of Who He really IS. God stopped manifesting His presence despite the fact that the sacrifices continued- in utter and blatant disrespect and disregard to His will, so they became just motions- Amos 5. In due time He sent His angel to Zechariah- the great, great etc. grandson of Samuel from the tribe of Judah as the precursor for the Messiah (the Aaronic priesthood ended with Eli, but Zadoc found grace before God and he will also be a millennial high priest. 1Chron. 6:4-8, Ezek. 44) Luke 1:5, 1 Chronicles 6:27-28, 1 Samuel 1:1. He took off where He left of with Israel- and would begin to work on humanity once again in and through Jesus Christ, after getting up from His sabbath rest to kill the animal to keep man till the Lamb would be presented John 5:17, 2 Corinthians 5:19, Heb. 1:1-31, 4:1-16 - the Perfect, unblemished Sacrifice and the Holy and Santified, Priest, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who finished it John 19:30, and then sent the Holy Spirit to infill those who would believe in Him and finish the rest of the work through them- the work that Israel was supposed to do, but they dropped the ball - Exod. 19:6, 1 pet. 2:9. They will pick it up again like Noah, in the Millennium, then the end will really come.
Zechariah chapter 3.
Joshua the high priest- the son of Jehozadak and great grandson of ZADOK, of the sons of Kohath who have the sole charge of bearing the Ark of the covenant ( Cf Obededom 1 chronic. 15:21, Numbs. 4:15 2 Sam. 6: 3-10), who found grace before God because of the faith and faithfulness of his fathers before God - Eleazar and Phinehas and would take over the role at the end of days.1 Chronic. 6: 4-15. Since the priest must bear the sins of the people and atone for them yearly, it wasn't possible because they were in exile for 69 week years and all the filth of the sins remained, so Satan had the right to accuse him before God as having no right to be in Hid presence let alone minister. So God gave His angel the order- He wasn't personally communing with His people for His presence had left the temple and it was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, but He imputed righteousness by Grace to him, so he could minister for the people before God until the perfect sacrifice came- the change of raiment: Jesus' righteousness Hebrews 7 &8, Jeremiah 31:31-34, after he had dealt with the 4 horns that He had permitted to scatter them - depicted in the image in the vision of Nebuchadnezzar -Babylon, Medo-Persia, Grecia and Roman Empires.
Greedy wolf
I was a member of Gateway church for 15 years and the Lord opened my eyes these greedy pastors only cares about themselves.
Can I ask you some say a question all the time that you were in Gateway Church were you a believer and did you go along with this teaching? I am glad you changed your mind on this teaching because it is clearly wrong to ask questions to tithe however you were in the church for 15 years.
Tithing certainly wouldn't be a struggle for Robert Morris.If he kept a tithe for himself and gave the rest away he would still be a wealthy man.
If only we used our wealth to further Gods work in world mission
Robert morris only has you either way if you never read your bible to know he doesn't have you at all
No money to corrupt teachers.
I don’t recall NT requiring tithing but it does speak about generosity with the body of the church 2 Cor 9:6-8. Give with a cheerful heart, but if you’re grumbling about it, better to not give.
Regardless of how a Christian feels about giving (money, time, etc), Luke 6:8 holds the promise from God that whatever you give [through faith] will be given to you. God’s law of reciprocity I suppose.
The cheerful giver passage is about giving to the poor and the passage in Luke has nothing to do with giving money to a local church. It’s about being gracious and forgiving towards your enemies.
I think you make a very good point there and I think would be very good for you and others to read second Corinthians chapter 8 and 9 in their totality and ask the questions who they're offering or the gift was given to was it a temporary situation or a permanent one and what was the context overall of the passage which is so often missed in churches that only quote one or two verses.
Jesus want us to ''tithe'' but not to Robert Morris
@@TheRealRenn You didn't understood what i meant
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The same applies with Sabbath keeping or even going to Church on Sunday, never ever instructed by Jesus or the NT.
Going to Church, as in a Church building, is a pagan ritual.
Please read Luke chapter 4 verses14 and 15
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That's still Old Testament practice.
Where in the NT does the Apostles instruct us to go to Church, as in a building?
And do they instruct us to go to Church, as in a building, on a Sunday?
There is no Command obviously to go to church first a Hebrews does tell us not to forsake the assembling together as some are in the habit of doing and it is good to gather together as is implied in all the letters of the epistles of Paul which he writes to the churches in Corinth galatia Ephesus etc. So gathering together and meeting is scriptural. I don't think whether you do it in a building at a school hall and a park at the beach or in a home or anywhere for that matter is problematic as long as you gather in the name of Christ to worship god and to encourage one another as believers. So if you choose not to go to church that's fine but I don't think you should disparage those who do go along on a Sunday or a Saturday to a meeting that's in a building. I personally have had some of the best experiences in a crowded living room amongst a group of 20 or so believers. But I also had a great time today singing worship songs to God at a church building. I don't care for the building
I am so fed up with these pastors. I think they need to go back to seminary or Bible college and get their money back. How dare they twist scripture to soothe their own needs nobody asked you to open us church and you should not expect your congregation to pay for it. If I opened a museum should I expect the general public to pay for it every month? No that would be nice but not in a perfect world.
Although no tithe is demanded of the Christian, the New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the body of Christ. Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter (James 1:5). Above all, offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7).
These men remind me of years gone by. When we used to sing in the church as little kids. We are happy people praise the Lord and we have the bible God's holy word Satan had a hold on me but Jesus came and set me free by the blood of calvary oh praise the Lord. Pathetic false teacher.
MONEY IS THIS MAN'S god. SO HE WANTS 10 PERCENT OF OUR SALT AND PEPPER EVERY WEEK!❤
Matthew 28:18-20; Galatians chapters 2-5.
So Robert Morris is not giving up on tithing?
Part of me has always liked the tithe.. a set amount to pay weekly or monthly that is perfectly manageable, and as long a as you are doing it people leave you alone.. but it’s not new covenant. Neither really is giving money to a man who calls himself “pastor”… most certainly not one who clearly uses manipulation, guilt and bully tactics.
I’m not going to try to stop people from doing whatever they want with the money they earn, but I would caution against operating outside of the leasing of the Holy Spirit in that regard.
Not supporting Morris by any stretch of the imagination. But I have one question. How do you interpret Hebrews 7:8 that reads, And here men thay die receive tithes; but therr he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
It would appear that Jesus still receives tithes according to the above Bible verse. I read a Charismatic pastor pointing to this verse to support tithing for today. What say ye?
Ok but we can’t ignore 1 Cor 16, Paul talking about the collection for the saints. It calls us to set “something aside” It’s not quite “10%” and it also speaks of “in keeping with how he prospers”, I.e. not if you’re drowning in debt - but we are still called to set something aside for the “Jerusalem Church” (the body). We need to recognise the local church as a necessity in fellowship and communion with the brethren. You don’t need a church to have a relationship with the Father, but you do need community of the church to support, edify, encourage one another. The local church is very necessary, and the local church has expenses. So please, let’s not lay waste to the idea of tithing entirely, but instead I agree; let’s not create law, let 10% be a guideline not an expectation, and let’s not drown in debt, but MOST IMPORTANTLY - let’s WORSHIP a living God out of revelation not manipulation
Tithing was done by old testament Jewish farmers and was replaced by the apostles doctrine as seen in acts2v42-47 and Acts4v32-37. We are all Royal Priests who offer sacrifices th God by giving to meet each other's needs. This man is not a false teacher but is simply wrong on his teaching.
So the question should be, did Yeshua ever condemn tithing?
Check Luke 11:42. He insisted on doing things like justice and love for ELOHIM which were often overlooked by the Pharisees. So in that verse, it doesn't look like HE condemned it, but pointed them to a more worthy
He also said that a Christian can be possessed if that follower didn't tithe
It seems as if Robert Morris is trying to tell us God is telling us we are supposed pay our tithes to Robert Morris.
it shocking to see that nearly every church in my city still preaches tithing
I heard a pastor say the church and ministry is just the same as the temple and priesthood of the Old Testament.