Our FINAL SAIL on this Catamaran & Our HONEST Thoughts
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- This is our final sail on this catamaran and we have thoughts! We also have now the benefit of having sailed a catamaran all season and have lots of thoughts based on our experience. Thanks for watching! Please subscribe and leave a comment ⛵️
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00:00 Sailing a catamaran: our experiences so far
05:47 A cold morning on Sydney Harbour
14:29 Our last day onboard
15:16 A sneak peek at our time sailing in the Whitsundays!
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Great videos and info. Thank you. I think we can comfortably sail effectively at about 35-38 AWA off the wind on our 1260. I’m sure we do not have as much ‘kit’ on board at this point. You might find the same with your Whitsundays boat. At first I was reluctant to sail closer than 40-45 but she actually sails faster close hauled at around that mid 30s mark.
Great info mate! We raced a mono in the Whitsundays and had her comfortably at 40-45 degrees AWA screaming past a 40 plus foot mono
@@sailingrubyrose So would u consider daggerboards arent needed? Or perhaps youd be even faster upwind with daggerboards? Even tho u said 'it doesnt point as high as your mono', u still think it was as fast up wind (or faster)? Just trying to figure out the DB question still, and yes watched all your cat build vids, they were very good, thank you for those, and keep em coming
This week was great but we can hardly wait for next week
I absolutely relax and decompress watching y’all’s videos. Of all the sailing channels I’m subscribed to I think you two would be my favorite to have a beer with. Great video. Thanks for sharing your journey with us.
Yes I agree 100% most definitely
Totally agree …..feel like I’ve nipped over to Sydney without the Jet lag …. Relaxed & ready to start the day
You guys make such great music choices but I think what sets you apart is how you weave the music through your story, subtle at times, bringing the level up when needed. I think it’s a major reason when your videos start I experience an “ahhh” that I don’t get with any other channel. I can’t believe you spent your last day onboard filming for us, but I’m glad you did. That sunset skyline was epic.
Thanks as always Jennifer.
Thank you for another great day at sea. A most relaxing sail for sure...
The quality of videography of these latest videos is outstanding.
Honest to God i swear you both are soul Mates.. You work as one it is a pleasure to be sure to watch ya.. Glad to see the Wynns at the beginning.. I follow them as well as you... Ty for all you do for us tag a longs.. Be Safe and stay well... Brian ( British Columbia Canada )..
Ah thanks mate. Stay safe
Looking forward to your next journey...
Great photography. Can’t wait for the whitsundays!
Wow! I cant wait to see the next video! Great Teaser!! ❤😊
Thanks so much
it is just the coolest looking catamaran from every angle, amazing
Great videos. The videos raise my excitement level for getting out on the water and seeing the world.
Another WOW video!
Well done you two. I just feel as though I am there with you. Thank you for sharing, can’t wait for the next one ! 😎
Thank you so much Judith
Well done you two, spot on.
That was a beautiful episode.
I never got sick on my boat or a boat that I was a captain on. But i got sick on boats that wasn't mine or I wasn't in charge of.
The only thing I can think of is I wasn't in charge.
Thanks for the video and see ya'll next week.
Aloha and Mahalo from the Big Island 🏝of Hawaii 🏝
Great episode, as usual. Vicarious travel is all the rage now 🥳 I can see some of the benefits of a Cat, but still miss RR. Looking forward to Whitehaven beach (it looked like it anyway), had a lovely trip there when staying on Hamilton Island. Very envious of you two 🏝⛵️
You’re editing and filming efforts are definitely paying off. Amazing job. I always enjoy your honesty and ability to relate your experiences with us viewers. Best of luck with your Vietnam travel plans
Thank you for the different views of Sydney Harbour. Beautiful!
As an Irish guy now living in Tasmania i now always over dress, The amount of cold weather gear i have is not normal, this was brought about by a hypothermic episode i had some years ago, working night shift on an elevated and exposed platform in Kalgoorlie of all places, ive been paranoid about freezing to death ever since. Get yourselves some thermal camp booties, a puffa gilet and a good thermal, acrylic beanie. I ordered my wifey a one piece wearable blanket as she feels the cold on the boat at night.
Loving this season of cruising Australia, we certainly have a magic country
Thank you for the night view of Sydney. I hope to see this myself in 2023 from a cruise ship. Good luck with your future adventure.
Very relaxing video!
Great episode as usual, this boat looks simply amazing and have no doubts as to your correct choice, chuffed Billy & Sierra have gone the same route, maybe a different model, not sure that they have announced that yet! Sea sickness in my mind may happen on different hulls due to the different movements, our bodies get movement fit or accustomed and if you change that you are going to feel queasy, not great but you will get through it. We need more RR2 build footage. Be safe, Chris
I'm enjoying Monday's!
I suffer motion sickness and own a cat. I only got sea sick once because I know how to prevent it by looking forward so I can see the horizon and taking the helm to distract my brain. Having a cool breeze on your face can cool the the hot head when motion is getting the better of you. When I did get sick I really needed to go to the toilet in a 46knot headwind. Yes, it was bouncing up and down a lot and as I knew that when I was in the bottom of the hull unable to see the horizon the dis-orientation would cause motion sickness and it did. So no reading or looking down or out the aft of the boat. Cooking can stir it up as well. André in Sydney
The last Cat that we crewed on, we agreed that the motion was what we would call “spastic”. Not predictable, as the brain needs, but random. As compared to our 41 foot monohull, no comparison. We much-preferred the motion of our monohull.
Beautiful video. I find myself not being able to relax unless I can see the sails all the time. But that’s just me. I just can not ever seem to feel comfortable on a catamaran because of that. Maybe if I spend more time but I am glad you mentioned it. Thank you.
Great video, thanks. You don’t say how real and alive a catamaran feels compared to a monohull ,
So you’re doing what you Love. Seeing the world by sea. You’re happy in life and doing it all from a larger, more comfortable home. Who are you cheating? One could say that you were cheating yourself of the better experience while on a monohull. But the reality is, it’s not cheating. It’s enjoying what you already do so well with a much more accommodating design.
Both vessels are great for their specific purposes, but as you’ve said so many times before, you’re talking about your home, not just a sailing vessel (otherwise you could be on a racing trimaran) and be fully engaged every moment of the sail or a pocket cruiser (sailing the same seas, but without any sense of panache or comfort).
But it’s your life. Your lifestyle. A life at sea. And you’ve just upgraded from a Jaguar XJS (smaller, classic, well-built, wonderfully fun sports car) to a Cadillac XT5 (a wider, roomier sports utility vehicle more suited for longer distance travel for a family, since it offers a comfortable ride in a beautifully spacious vessel). You’re about to trade up again for an Escalade which will be even larger still and offer even more creature comforts. Put into perspective, are the SUV’s cheating? Is the XJS superior? No. Neither is true. They are all gorgeous and wonderfully safe modes of travel that each have their perks, strengths and drawbacks. But you’re fortunate enough to have travelled in style in both and will soon have a vessel that will serve your family so well as you continue your journey around the great big blue!
No cheating…just living, loving and learning more and more about each other, the world around us and the beautiful benefits (and drawbacks) of a life at sea! Plus teaching us all a thing or two…And doing it with style and grace! Thanks!!
Oh jesus, the random hair on the nose... Only visible in the misty morning light when a gentle breeze casts its web of flutter, across an idyllic bay... I just can't wait for the Whitsundays series. Lived there for 2 years. It truly was paradise...
I know, right?
What a great place to be for your last night in Sydney, great location…. I lived there for 2yrs when l first moved from the UK, moved out to the suburbs for a couple of years before moving to WA.
Great video again this week, really looking forward to the Whitsunday’s next episode…… Jack n Steve .. 🐶😎
Thanks mate.
" Middle aged Gecko "........!!!!!!!!!.............. You should receive an award for that one.
Bahahaha
Superb!
Cheers mate!
Another fantastic video! 😎🇺🇸
Ah thank you
I have the same effect, I used to work on a charter cat and then for off time raced on a 40ft mono. Changing straight between the two I used to start to feel queasy. If on the other hand I had a few days landside between them never felt queasy.
Aw really like the part at 6:44 :) cheers. After watching y'all stuff I'm going with a Seawind! Hope the wait list isn't too long.
Ah thanks mate.
I used to like sailing hobie cats fast, and instead sail slower mono hulls now. The only 2 boats I have ever felt sick on were a 65 foot prawn trawler in the North Sea which smelled worse than anything you can possibly imagine, and a 130 foot catamaran coming back to Mackay from Credilin Reef in a strong north westerly. Thanks for the video folks. It looked amazing and very professional.
"It's still peeing out and making me have to pee, cause I can hear it tinkling out" That just made me laugh so loud! People look at me when I use the term that something is peeing or tinkling when it spills slowly, so thank you for making my day by describing it exactly as I would!!!!
You guys did a cross over with the Wynns? How did I miss that! Another great vid - thanks for your cat thoughts and looking forward to seeing you on RR2.
Your videos seem to have such of proffessional feel to them, getting better all the time. You both just created a different atmosphere in these sydney vids. Very unik and better put together editing ,than many other channels ,that have been around alot longer and have far more subscribers.
So well done. I have an idea,if you ever get stuck for a video,you could choose to show all the work that goes into the editing. So many CZcamss talk about all the hard work it takes but never shows it, could be interesting to understand and appreciate,all the hard work. Looking forward to whitsundays.
The Australian Navy is totally cool with you coming up to it extremely close. That is as long as you have Vegemite.... indeed hahahahaha
Or TimTams ?
I have sailed a monohull my whole life. We have owned 2 monohull sailboats as a family. No one ever got seasick. We chartered a Bali 4.5 in St Martin and both my wife and oldest son were seasick. The boat felt like the hills were fighting each other. I was not a fan of the motion. Maybe I am just not used to it. Loved the boat layout, but made wonder if I could be a cat owner.
you need to sail a wharram type hulled cat... a MUCH more pleasant motion through seas... all Cats are not equal... just as with mono's
Great vid guys. Other than the obvious more room, more comfort, more stability of the cat it seems this boat would be easier for single hand sailing just in case you needed to and having 2 engines has to be a plus. I'm for all the electric you can get but having diesel engines as a backup to me is a must. Looking forward to next week, take care.
I mentioned before that (in my opinion ennyhoo) your filming had gone up several notches in this series but I have to say that you're 'story telling' is just getting better and better (and it wasn't too shabby previously) ! Well done both of you !
Ah thanks so much Kenny
Nice!
Cats can 'hobby horse' in some conditions, and when they do it is decidedly uncomfortable and can put a lot of strain on rigging and standing gear. The good news is it's not something that happen often and all it takes is falling off the wind a bit to settle things down. It can happen at anchor too if the fetch is just right. That can be solved with an off-center bridal that cants the bow off the waves. That's a small price to pay imho for the added comfort/stability and all that extra room and storage. Not to mention easy access to the engines and systems.
Beautiful video
Thank you
Enjoyed your thoughts about motion sickness on the cat. I spent several years on round bottom top heavy minesweepers that sailed over much of the Pacific. Early on I got seasick but eventually reached a point where motion never bothered me, regardless of sea state. After a long crossing from SE Asia to the US, it seemed the pier was moving when we went ashore. The pitch over a long swell followed by the roll into the trough is something you don't forget. You know you are over it when you can enjoy a good "fry up" early in the morning with some black coffee! I have never been to sea on a large sailing vessel but imagine the motion of a fully rigged ship of the 18th or 19th century to be similar.
I think it has a lot to do with hull shape and power. In a slim cat that is powered up slices through the chop much better than a cat with wide hulls that push a lot more water and tend to be slower and bounce up and down over the chop. It seems many owners don't like to sail fast, and think they are flying when doing 9 or 10 knots. A well designed cat should be comfortable at 15 knots and be capable of 20 knots in the right conditions, then you are having too much fun to be seasick.... Cheers Rustie 🍻🍻🦘
I see a few people have commented on motion. Exactly what I was thinking. The motion is so different on a cat, rather than a mono. As Nick would realise also a cat with mini keels will never point as well as a good mono. The only way to have a cat point well is have a cat with dagger boards. The other thing I feel is with you comment about being disconnected to the main is with a cat when they power away the move forward fairly quickly but on a level keel. This I feel makes it feel like there kind of nothing happen I g. However in a mono you heel . This makes you realise there is wind in the main.
Really looking forward to seeing Ruby Rose 2 coming out of the mould. When does that happen? & are you going to be there when she does.
Always wanted to see Australia, this is making it tougher to resist. Someday, perhaps, when the world gets back on it's axis properly. Looks like we are in for some stunning episodes, thank for taking us along.
Absolute pleasure mate
If anyone could pick a safe, sea worthy catamaran, it would be you two. But me, I'm a monohull person all the way. I love the heeling and I love the organic feel of it. If I were a world cruiser, I might change my mind due to the space. But I just love the beauty and safety of my beloved monohull.
Another beautiful, calming RR episode. BTW....were those kangaroo sausages you were eating while anchored in front of the Sydney opera house on an Australian boat with an actual Australian?
Australian Navy ship. HMAS Adelaide. Landing Helicopter dock ship. Looked it up. Thought it was for Harrier jump jets with that raised bow.
For day sailing or weekend sailing I love a monohull. Especially when you can trim her out and dip the rail on a nice heel. I have had a chance to spend a week on a cat. If I ever decide to do full time live aboard I couldn't do it on a mono and would sell mine for a cat.
That’s a brilliant way of looking at it!
Had to beat a view of Sydney Harbor while dining. I hope to sail that area one day.
Good to see so much rain in Australia. Could really use a good drenching in Calif.
Stay safe and stay cool my friend
Catamarans have a different motion through the seas than a mono, like all things boatie they affect each individual differently
I didnt see anything about your thoughts on sailing with too much laundry up and one hull out of the water. (Ive not yet managed it on my iroquois mk2)
By the way, that's a Canberra Class LHD, it's an amphibious warfare vessel that holds helicopters and landing craft to transport tanks and troops to the beach. The largest ships the RAN has ever operated.
There are only two in the RAN. So that was either the HMAS Canberra or HMAS Adelaide. It's a very rare sight to see one at all given their numbers and how important they are to the RAN.
@@patraic5241 they are based in Sydney so I guess if you're going to see one, it's likely there.
@@patraic5241 L01 is Adelaide and L02 is Canberra, I used to be posted on Canberra.
@@bluedog1052 Awesome.
Nice catamaran
Great video! It reminded me of the cruising in the Whitsunday's that I did several decades ago and I'm very eager to get back there sometime soon. Did you charter your SW cat from a local vendor? If so, please share contact info and any recommendations.
Had no problems on the F-P 40 we chartered for a week.
The largest vessel I have ever been captain of was a pedalo on the Serpentine but I am fascinated by this shit. BTW I'd equate monohull to cat being akin to me going from a Jaguar XK8 to a Volvo V70 after our second child was born in 2000. Spacious and practical but much less charming and beautiful.
I got sick on a 48 ft performance cat on a mid level day in Buzzard’s bay. It felt more like an amusement park hangover than a normal folly sea sickness. Someone told me it might have been due to the acceleration/deceleration. I bought a power cat in February, and miss the mono hull gentle motion. I assume I will get used to it, and there are enough livability benefits to the catamaran that I don’t regret it for now.
Best,
Maldwin
If I had a choice, I'd much rather be seasick on a catamaran.
If you get caught in bad weather going across the seas/ocean seasickness would be your last concern! MONOHULL'S are safer.
Cheers.
Ah thanks
Cold! Have you ever been in Canada in the winter? That is cold! No bare feet except inside the house before getting to bed. Love your travelling adventure.💕
Lol, point taken!
Loving the updates. I wonder if the queasiness you experienced was due to the unfamiliarity of the different cats? There is something to be said for the first 50 miles of a road trip in another persons' owned car that makes you overly cautious no matter how many years you have behind the wheel. I imagine coming to the end of your time with the chartered cat you no longer have any of the unease you felt at the beginning. Just food for thought. Can't wait for the next installment.
Yes! It's my favorite Sailing Channel Topic! Catamaran vs Monohull season 8 episode 29. :)
That was deliberately sarcastic in tone to play on a trope of there being many such videos, but I do find the discussion genuinely fascinating. Just wanted it clear that this was not in any way a negative comment, I am aware how text can be perceived without accompanying tone.
Haha,thanks for the comment either way
I like all their technical guidance. The Ruby Rose crew are tough critics. And, I love it!!!
You missed out on some awesome sailing ground on Lake Macquarie and port Stephens,safe sailing.
Not sure what the bridge deck clearance is on the Seawind, but I would pick that it has the most of the ones that you previously sailed on. You mentioned only one slam. The waves hitting the bridge deck would affect the motion, and maybe since the waves don't hit the bridgedeck very often on the Seawind, and so the motion is better.
My dinner guest list would include Ruby Rose (obviously) MJ Sailing, Sailing Uma, Beau & Brandy Sailing, Adventures of an Old Sea Dog, Sailing Gently & Gone with the Wynns and for a small splash of irreverent colour I'd also invite Mrs Browns Boys Brendan O Carroll, I wonder would one dinner be enough ? Stay Safe & Fair Winds !!
I've only been on a cat once and that was on a short trip off the Costa del Sol. I felt queasy almost as soon as we left the harbour. There was a bit of a swell but nothing really to write home about, but the motion didn't really agree with me. Having said that, the rest of the family were fine. Fab video as always, just need to erase that mental picture of Nick "sucking on a kangaroo" LOL!
Again beautifully filmed and shows a bit of Australia I've never seen. So looking forward to your new adventures on your new boat. Think a new cat will give you a whole level of comfort and speed. Love the videos, the narrative and the beautiful editing
Another great video!
With regard to the lack of sea sickness, have you thought that as you're totally responsible for this cat, instead of being a guest on another, that your mindset is in a different place? There's only the pair of you on this one and you are more focused! Stay safe 😎
The US Navy is just uptight about getting close to our ships because of the USS Cole bombing. But it really depends on which ships are involved and where you are located. Some ports in the US you have to go right past them, but they have security boats with a nice machine gun on the front.
The USN security stance actually predates the Cole incident. I recall an incident in 1994 when our very well intentioned chaplain - decided it would be a jolly good idea to visit an anchored CVN and ‘minister to their needs’ without command approval of the RN or USN. He was rebuffed on approach at gunpoint - despite his attempted explanations (shouting on a window day at 100m range) - the security detail were unimpressed and unmoved.He came back to the RN warship shaking his head and confused and rejected - to a huge bollicking from the RN CO.
Have you spoken to parley revival? What do you think about the lagoon 450 having a design flaw?
I regularly sail a 1250, it easily points to 35 Apparent, easily.
Would you ever consider a Silent Yachts?
It looks like you got out of Sydney just in time!
Strange thing, I never knew it got cold in Australia. I do know it doesn't get cold here but a couple days per year.
I would assume that boats are similar to cars as far as motion sickness. All depends on the type of car, road, front seat vs back seat, etc; years ago I would get instantly sick when riding in a 2004 Dodge Intrepid due to how it handled and the slope of the view looking out the front windshield. if you were driving the boat were you still feeling sick?
I think Australia is just lovely... 3 cheers for Australia...Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi!!! Can't wait to get there one day.
Having far too much first hand experience with motion sickness, I do think it can depend a lot on the boat type. Motion sickness heavily depends on the frequency of the motion. With my car, I can feel bad when going between 60-90kph. The faster I go beyond that, the less problems I have. Similar, I prefer light and stiffly sprung cars, heavy and soft makes me quite uncomfortable.
So while a heavier boat might seem steadier, it is easy to see how the slower, more sinusodial motions of the heavier boat are worse for your stomach. Hull shape probably adds to that too. With a performance cat you probably have larger movements, but quicker, more bumpy. That should be easier on the stomach.
I hear you can get a good deal on a lagoon 45 right now
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In your case i think sea sickness is because of change. Your monohull moves differently than a catamaran.... each boat regardless of type has its own movement profile.... you will get used to it in time
Yes, I experienced the same as a child when we went from a monohulled boat to a catamaran. The first thee or four times sailing the catamaran in rougher water, I remember being a bit sea sick, but after that is was never a problem again. My brothers had the same experience.
I'm sure you guys have heard about the trouble with Lagoon 450s, and the issues other owners are finding with cracked bulkheads. Thankfully you aren't buying Lagoon! That being said, I imagine that over the next few years insurance companies will want evidence that all bulkheads are properly tabbed & glassed to the hull, under threat of non-renewal /cancelation. Since you're building, & Seawind is filming it, may I suggest that you keep documentation photos on file of the final construction views of every bulkhead for future insurance evidence?
It is winter south of the equator , right ? So confusing , like the toilet water swirling backwards . LOL
How was your experience of navigating through the saloon windows? You have now have experience with helms on all positions. Is one position better than others, or is it just something you get used to?
I'm curious if your time aboard this boat has changed your mind about design decisions/layout etc of your new boat(even if it's too late)
Sucking on a Kangaroo ….Nick you are Priceless !!!😂😂😂….Terysa ….How do you cope with him ???😂😂…Thank you for whisking me off to Sydney without the jet lag …( Oh and we can’t actually travel there !!) You are an Awesome couple 😘
Hi fist off i would like to say that my wife and i love your channel. we have never sailed before but its something we really want to experience full time. Is sailing a catamaran difficult as a total novice and beginner and what advice would you give me thank you
Hey mate! Really depends on the catamaran. Watch gone with the wynns from a few years ago when they learned to sail on their 44 ft catamaran, it will give you some good inspiration.
Cat's definitely have a VERY different motion particularly in bumpy conditions at reasonable speed (10 to 15 knots), I've had our boat jumping around so much (always to windward) that the internal furniture fixed in place become projectile surfaces clouting the crew in the hips and shins. The only safe place was in the cockpit, so no hot meals for that leg. When a mono heels it de-powers the sail plan as it reduces the area exposed to the wind, cats and tris don't, they just speed up. In the wrong conditions with too much sail up (always at 2am) our boat on delivery after purchase (17m Crowther) just such an incident occurred, full main and genoa, according to a friend who was crew for the delivery there was no discernible hull wakes, just all white water with the boat literally jumping from wave top to wave top, the furling winch was too small to make the genoa furling line move so the anchor winch was used to furl the sail and slow the boat down. 10 minutes later back to 10 to 15 knot breeze from the stb aft quarter, the gale was past. So much of what you've learned as live aboards on a mono will be absolutely essential, some will need quite a bit of adjustment.
I am a cat sailor. It's sometimes difficult for your senses to get around the boat movement. A monohull is a more predictable movement. Albeit at times more severe but your senses can get around it more effectively. Qualifier: absent absolute chaos at sea. If your brain can get around the movement and spatial reference you'll likely fair well in all kinds of conditions. On a catamaran your brain is in overdrive trying to resolve two hulls and twice the action; jerky and somewhat unpredictable. You can get sea legs much quicker on a monohull in my opinion. The only time I've felt woossie sp? was on a large cat, a lagoon 45F. It sailed like a brick. Every wave event was a delayed response due to its weight. It was difficult for my senses to get around the movement. Lighter cats are much more responsive and the movement expected. Anyway just two my two cents. Fare winds and good luck with your new boat. Capt Kaz
I wonder if the motion is different between cats and mono, maybe the break allowed a "reset" of you gut/inner ear.
I have never sailed a Cat. I have experience in Cat powerboats. Cat power boats move much different in the water. They feel un natural if you are use to normal Deep V boats. Not sure if this translates to a big Sailing cat. I could see this being a factor.
Nice video but where do you say what boat this is? :)
Sea sick... I dont have a definitive answer but, perhaps it has somthing to do with a different motion due to 2 hulls attached rather than a single free hull. Iv heard it described as washing machine motion.