Paul Kingsnorth: Converting from atheism, Buddhism and Wicca to Christianity.
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- Author & poet Paul Kingsnorth tells the story of his unexpected conversion to Christianity.
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Paul Kingsnorth is Delightful & Rowan Williams is the Gandalf of the Anglican Communion✝♥
I want to believe and I’m envious of those who feel a deep spiritual connection. I tried praying for help as I’ve been going through the worst depression and it’s been scary. I wish for some peace
I was an atheist until finding science and logic and dropping my presuppositions about Jesus and what God is versus the caricatured satirical strawmen arguments against It as seen in George Carlin bits or depicted (and ignorantly taken seriously) as a Sky Daddy in artistic styling.
I love that name
Awesome that you you were able to grow and more fairly consider the logic and reasons supporting faith!
Can I assume that you are now a "christian"? Your YT name and other statements seem to indicate very little progress in any direction. Self mockery is your unhappy condition now.
your and George's ridiculous God is so utterly small. human imagination-sized. an Infinite one could never fit in the box of your imagination.
all you can ridicule is the idea of a God, which is your caricature.
look at an atom. Great youtubes showing electrons in uniquely shaped clouds in each of the outer 5 s,p,d,f subshells. each is lower than the next in energy. no cartoon, here. Tamed order, power, structure, information processing. Each atom in all of reality behaving as if possesses a rudimentary awareness of its surroundings and things far away, by responding to and storing information, emitting quantitized energy by rules too complex for ordinary mortals to grasp, but readily summed in Schrodinger's elegant equations.
Big Bang Energy condensed by specific rules governing almost infinite forces trapped in Planck sized spaces ,with behaviors the same all across 40 billion light years.
Randomness without intelligentally defined rules created that?
the Being(s) capable of imagining how to do that and making it happen in a few nanoseconds, is only worthy of awe.
LOL Clearly not.
Regeneration precedes faith.
Understanding regeneration is monergistic.
Understanding Saving Grace is undeserved and nothing a human being does or earns.
Understanding creation is to glorify God.
Understanding God has a decree and is fulfilling everything from the beginning to the end.
Understanding every choice we make is free but every choice we make is determined.
Charles Spurgeon and other reformed greats explained the truth far better than I try to do in a few sentences!
Chris I appreciate your brother one thing how could a choice be free yet determined. I can’t be condemned for blindness when my blindness was decreed that would make God the author of evil I think
@@donthomas4793 Take a look at “Federal Headship on the dividing line” on CZcams. (There are lots of others that discuss it ,but this is good)
The reformation hinged on “The bondage of the Will “ by Martin Luther. This was the same thoughts of Augustine and mentioned in the early church fathers writings (Diagnetus for example)
Hope this helps in understanding the difficult realisation we have free will and it is determined.
Nah.
Reformed gobbledygook.
@@markdaniels1730 …love the Lord your God with all your heart soul and strength and with all your MIND.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is *the only message in the world* that has the power to transform hearts 💔-> ❤️
By God’s grace 🙏
And for God’s glory 👆🏼
What do you mean by the phrase "transforms hearts"?
The gospels were written by the Romans to convince the Jews to bend over backwards to Rome and get taken from behind
Amen. Listen to the testimonies of the Chinese brothers and sisters
@@theoskeptomai2535 when God Almighty gives you rebirth you have a new heart. You have love, you have the ability to forgive, listen to the story of Virginia Prodan, who lived as a dedicated atheist lawyer in Romania. It will give you much understanding.
God bless and welcome to the family of Jesus Christ!
Jeesus the myth
I too felt the sacredness of creation, but my journey went the opposite direction. We each are on our own paths and come to find the story that we prefer.
I was called to share the Gospel with Muslims in Paris. The Muslims who accepted to pray with me, all saw the Christ, had visions….Give Him a try : God if you exit, I must know. Save my soul if I have One.” He is not far away.
The problem is, once you travel past Christianity there is nothing left to investigate. It’s the last thing. Once you realise it’s not the truth there is nowhere else to go. Nihilism is the logical end point.
The problem is we are all missing out on a wonderful science. Even Christians distort that science out of all recognition. If we follow Jesus, accurately, we are participating in that wonderful science. If we allow our spiritual nature to slip away from righteousness the influences that replace them tear away at the genetic mechanics that should support us. My favourite of these, currently, is the collapse of our menubrium. It starts to become arthritic at quite an early age and one thing we don't want is an arthritic sternum with authority over vital organs...especially when Wormwood is approaching.
None of what you wrote is even remotely rational or reasoned. I've never heard anyone say such things. Where did you get such strange ideas, and why would you believe them? What do you mean by 'Wormwood'?
@@jamescooke5063 All my ideas come from the Holy Bible...which is a wonderful source of knowledge in all the electromagnetic behaviours in all stars, in atoms, in galaxies, in science, and in life. After you have got all these things working in harmony it leads you into a wonderful electromagnetic understanding in the healthy, replication of the living cell...and after a great deal of Christian research we find Wormwood menacingly threatening Planet Earth...but it all starts and ends with the Holy Bible...and especially in the righteous teaching of Jesus Christ.
Following a myth doesn't sound scientific in the least
@@zhengfuukusheng9238 One man's myth is another man's science. When we analyse the Holy Bible we find the Grand Unification of the Four Universal Field Forces...and then, that everything is controlled by electromagnetic force, and then, that Jesus Christ is teaching us righteousness, as it pertains to those EM forces. Via this route I have reached the arthritic sternum and beyond and I suggest we all seek Jesus Christ's accurate word, righteously...and before Wormwood.
@@trevorbates9017 Thank you for your comment. Mumbo Jumbo is a type of Word Salad, not available in leading supermarkets
Thank you! It struck me hearing Paul describing people’s reasons against Christianity - they don’t like hierarchy, don’t like institution and priests, don’t like their books and the law - and that sounds just like Christ back in his day talking against the then established religion, priests and law... 🤔
I feel like you didn't share the more nuanced version of your post given the existence of those things in the old testament with fulfilling and not abolishing the law in the new. Otherwise at first glance it appears to present an overly simplistic dichotomy.
Christ says that He came not to repudiate the Mosaic Law but to fulfill it by keeping it perfectly. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” He condemns “traditions of men” and the Pharisees’ neglect of the weightier matters of the Law in favor of lesser matters. People who think Jesus was some kind of anti-authority radical haven’t studied Scripture.
Oh you mustn't offend the arch bishop!!
It's just a respectful way to go about life. Nothing more
No atheists in foxholes.
_No atheists in foxholes_
...not that it's correct, but if it were, it would mean only religions want war and to kill other people
Religions exist for a reason. In Christianity's case, the reason was that having gone from a nomadic familial tribal culture that had many gods (Elohim, plural) and then on to a city-state culture that had A god (YHWH, singular) to reflect the urban polity of hierarchy with a law-making king at the top, that culture found itself under the thumb of Greece and then of Rome for very long time and with unforeseeable end so they ginned up a Messiah god, embroidered with dying/rising power to be able to make the dead (who were dying unseasonably early as members of an oppressed group) rise again and be rewarded for their sufferings and feel special.
Your simpleton explanation is hilarious 🤣
mankind makes religions. God made mankind.
look at the absolute order in the world, down to quarks, up to galactic clusters. the order starts at 12 to 16 different types of quarks.
each beast in the particle zoo, each force, is defined, the same across 40 billion light years.
yup. infinitely undifferentiated energy became those unique things.
rules do not arise from chaos. order only arises from order.
what was the order before the Big Bang?
yet, only an absolutely Brilliant Mind could make a universe where you can be brilliant, but perfectly free to be an atheist.
Check out, (i think this is the one) The Big Conversation: "What if God Could Be Proven To Exist"
you will never, as a smug adult, have the trusting worldview of an one-eyed child.
Einstein's statement: there is but one life- defining question:
can you trust Life/Reality/the Universe/God to "have your back?" Or is there nothing there?
open-eyed child
Yahweh is an adaption of El, taken by the early Jews from the polytheistic Caananite pantheon. The Jews created this god as they'd been pushed around by other tribes, like the Babylonians, Egyptians and Persians. They invented a god which conferred special rights on them as a chosen people to justify killing other tribes and taking their land.
They were likely jealous that these other tribes had big empires, and they didn't
Later, the Greco-Romans arrived on the scene and found the Jews a tough bunch to subdue. So they created the Jeesus character to appeal to the Jews to be pacifist and let the Romans screw them silly
Religion exists for a reason
@@zhengfuukusheng9238😂 sounds like a lot of horse crap to me.
9:50 hyper individualist
Pursued by the Hounds of Hell
You can be saved from the hounds of hell. Read the book of The Heavenly Man. Br Yun. It will give you much to consider seriously.
At this rate, he'll move on to Islam or Hinduism within 5 years.
Yes, and hopefully stop on Advaita Vedanta (nondual Hinduism). It's beautiful.
LOL 😆
Seriously, there is literally zero chance that this guy does not end up as a muslim.
Sounds like this fellow has spent his life up to now drifting from one belief system to another, never committing to any one. It’s as though he feels he *must* believe in something; Must have an answer for that massive ‘Why?’
Since he wasn’t indoctrinated as a child by Christian parents, he was supposedly free to choose for himself. I wonder if he thoughtfully examined what he’d need to believe as a Christian- did he look at the serious problems with the story, listen to scholar in debate, assessing the truth for himself, or did he just jump into the next big thing,and become carried away by infectious community fervour?
Katie Lisle - beautifully expressed and true!
Perhaps he examined the problems inherent with atheism and found it lacking. I know I find atheism quite lacking and hollow.
BTW a good reason to believe Christianity is because it's really true. Not sure what you believe to be problems with it.
Yeah, I heard about a guy who was a Buddhist monk in North India, then a catholic and then converted to Islam. It seems sometimes people always need to find the next thing and that will be the truth.
When Christ pursues you, it is never jumping to the next thing. it is finding the Being who is in the Light.
@@glenliesegang8935 the guy I saw converted from Christianity to Islam.....
One confused so and so. Why bother with any of them. Look tp the sun the birds and the bees. No one knows what could be behind this all as that is the biggest mystery of them all.
The is nothing adult about a Xtian conversion.
LOL
Who was Deitrich Bonhoeffer?
A better title would be ‘Emotionally Needy Deconversion from Reality’.
Being emotionally needy sounds like an insult but it’s the truth for us all. We need love . There is no greater love than the sacrificial love of Jesus. Is the resurrection true? Is the world created or is there some other explanation for it’s existence?
You claim knowledge of reality, but all the up quarks, down quarks and electrons you are made of are really created by quantum fields, about which most of us know little, and none of us know completely. One of the biggest lies told in our school and university system makes you think everything is explained by atoms, and nothing funky is going on. Sorry to say, but your conception of reality is brutally flawed.
@@jamescooke5063 Nobody said we know everything, but we have come an enormous way. Everything we know makes the positing of a Divinity unnecessary.
@@larryluch8178 Do you want answers, or emotionally comforting pap? Because we know the answers. It is enormously improbable that a dead person ever rose. There is no evident sufficient to even raise a doubt.
@@davethebrahman9870 LOL 😆 it's called a miracle: miracles aren't normal events : your denial isn't any proof that God doesn't exist or the Resurrection didn't happen : All the Jews had to do was produce Jesus body and just like all the other Jewish Messiah groups this group would have died out Too.
atheism isnt a belive system ! so not possible to covert from .
Growing into adulthood? 😂
Make believe is for children
One day every single person that has ever lived will find out that the Bible is not a fairytale. Mock it, cast it out, revolt against it, it doesn't change the reality of Jesus and what He accomplished and is coming back to finish.
@@edge4192 If there realy is a sky daddy how can you know you have the right one ? Why a human sacrifice or a warleader is the way to be moral ?
Muslims are as much convinced as you are of thr impossible life after death. So is every member of the rest of the religions.
@@edge4192
Nope, we evolved to be able to make up Gods to explain the unknown.
Now in the 21st century myth is being replaced by science. And the trend will continue as it has done since Darwin's day.
@@johnhammond6423 John search for science Uprising on CZcams. Watch the entire Playlist. Are you positive you aren't being deceived. Don't believe what your told do your due diligence.
@@alexstramp7688
_' Are you positive you aren't being deceived'_
Are you?
_'Don't believe what your told'_
That depends on who is telling me and if what they are telling me lines up with the evidence presented.
For example, almost every scientist on the planet now accepts evolution as a fact and also explains to the layman [me] why they came to that conclusion.
Now compere that with the creationists that have no good evidence for any Adam and Eve other than a story in an old religious book thousands of years old.
I have not time for the videos in your link my friend. Or Michael Egnor or the discovery institute.
The Discovery Institute promotes the pseudoscientific principle of intelligent design and is ignored by almost all of the real scientists.
Even the few scientist in the Discovery Institute are making claims outside of their scientific expertise.