Health Insurance After Quitting Your Job
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
- How can one afford to buy health insurance after you quit your job? I quit my job 3 years ago and I survived! I was able to purchase health insurance and there are various discounts you can receive based on your income. Of course, when you quit, the insurance will likely be no where as cheap as buying it through your employer because they offer a low health insurance cost as a perk to you. In California, you have a health portal at coveredca.com which you can preview how much health insurance would cost if you just up and leave your current job. Yes... say goodbye to your boss forever! Keep in mind I'm not getting some random low coverage insurance but rather from Kaiser or Blue Shield of California.
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This is awesome that you are sharing this. So many people wonder what to do about this. You rock 👍
You're welcome!
@@BeatTheBush 😊
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I stupidly lost the password. I would love any tips you can give me!
"This is the cost of being free." So true. Thanks for the video - I have always wondered about this.
=D Thanks for watching!
It’s irritating when you see United Healthcare is going to post record profits this quarter since people aren’t going to checkups due to Covid. Shouldn’t we see a refund in our premiums?
I don't understand how a company that helps provide healthcare is even listed as a publicly traded company...? Shouldn't this be illegal? Are they working for the customer or the investors checkbook?
I know. It pisses me off I am paying so much when I don't even use it.
@@electric-fire21 United States is really United Incorporated, everything is business here, healthy care business, school business and military industrial business....
@@electric-fire21 Exactly! Well said. This is something most of us don't even think about, because we're too busy going to work... to keep our coverage.
Thanks for all the detailed information you have provided in this video. I like your way of explaining every point. Keep sharing such great videos in the future also.
Great video man! I feel like this is a topic that people often overlook before quitting their job
And for the long term, it gets more and more expensive. So you better have a plan to make more as you get older or else!
I've tried to find information on this topic before and you've done the best at explaining it.
I'm so lucky that I actually like my current job that provides excellent health coverage for me and my family!
I'm happy for you! Hope your job stays that way and continues for long time to come.
@@BeatTheBush I'm definitely working on becoming FI in case one day my situation changes!
Needed this. Thank you ! This was my last attachment to my job.
It's great to know that one can buy coverage on the market. Having this knowledge makes quitting a job not as scary. By the way, I have that lamp, too! Target?
I have guaranteed lifetime employer paid healthcare in retirement with minimum 10 years of employment with them - major golden handcuffs. This is a huge benefit.
Benjamin Ho ,
I totally agree with you it is a golden handcuff plus a huge benefit.
Do you mind if I ask which company you work for which provides lifetime employer paid healthcare ?
Thanks
@@jadufy the government 😅
@@benho1314 😅
Remember 3/10/18 meetup at SF? The restaurant was so small, I left after seeing you were busy talking after BART ride from East Bay!
The irony in this is I was just thinking about this exact question
Nice! It's going to be expensive.
Thank u so much for this video! Love you💜
BeatTheBush _ The man The myth The Legend :)! You are spot on, it is worth it! Freedom at all costs!!
Thank you for sharing this, I became a solo consultant recently and my spouse joined a startup so not having corporate sponsored health insurance has been a drag
Cost of going solo. Startups should have healthcare? I always did in my previous ones.
This is what i needed! doing side hustles now and need to understand my benefits and costs :) great video thanks for sharing your knowledge. I feel the same way about a day jobs, especially the nice engineering salary and benefits/perks
You should make a video about working for yourself vs working for someone else!! i'd love to hear your insights and perspectives
This is great information! I follow your videos quite closely and I wondered how you can retire and still take care of health costs. Also mentioning about the Cobra insurance was good too as I was wondering about how that worked. Excellent video once again.
Thanks! It's not too much for now. I can afford to just pay it and it does hurt.
@@BeatTheBush Thank you always for your frank and honest discussions and videos.
Another option that some may want to consider looking into are companies like Christian Healthcare Ministries or Medishare. The premiums are low and go directly toward members medical bills, not bloated salaries. CHM takes care of all medical events over $500 at 100% (no deductible). I know so many people (especially small business owners) who have had it for years and love it.
Thank you for sharing! There is an MD CZcamsr that brought it up. I'm looking into it now!
When I was an independent contractor, I was shelling out $1800/month for health insurance for a family of four. Let that sink in. $1800-a-month! Fortunately, the contract paid well so it was worth it. And, yes, there are cheaper options via Bronze or Silver plans but, for our family needs, a Gold plan made more sense. As BTB mentioned, California has subsidies if you are in a lower income bracket and we also have Medi-Cal (aka Medicaid or free government insurance) for those in the lowest income brackets.
$1800 is more than what I spend in a month. OMG
Man i also live in CA. I am 53 yo and i just quit my job on May 2021 because i hated it. The only reason i stayed there because of the health insurance but i am so done with job. My health insurance with HealNet now is $515 a month with 70% Silver Coverage. It sucks but i need to be safe than sorry. This country's health insurance is rediculous, the worst ive seen because of the cost. I agree with you 100%, it is worth it even it is costly because i am free what i want to do. I am day trading stocks now and so far, i am doing fine. Thanks for your video because it validates that i made a good decision.
Interesting topic!
Would've been nice to see you also go through the Obamacare website for those of us not in Cali but I found the COBRA bit particularly helpful, so thanks for this video. I'm nowhere near financially independent but it's good to see how much someone who is pays for this, appreciate the insight/transparency.
Thanks for the useful info!!
Glad it was helpful!
Planning to do a sabbatical and found this video. I am also in the BA (SJ) and I am desperately in need for more input. Being with Kaiser P. and they will suck me dry if I will pay for the same plan without my employer =(
Odd enough I always stumble over your videos eventually. Being from Germany I had to figure out how things work in the USA (401k, credit cards/score, buying a house etc) and your videos helped a ton. If I ever run into you, I owe u a beer - Thanks
Have you ever considered doing a breakeven cost analysis comparing the cost (risk) of an out-of-pocket catastrophic event versus the annual health insurance premium including the deductible for that event? I've often wondered what the itemized cost for a corrective procedure or treatment would be out-of-pocket versus the cost of carrying an annual health insurance premium.
I realize that not carrying health insurance is kinda like rolling the dice but the insurance is getting so expensive that it may be approaching a break-even point in just paying out-of-pocket in the event of a catastrophic health care event.
Great content!
Love the channel.
50,white, male, 5.5 mil nw.
Still working in part for health insurance.
Thanks!
Thanks so much for this 😆 I’ve been thinking about quitting my job
Healthcare and self employment tax are biggies.
@@BeatTheBush thanks!
Can’t wait to see this. This is a very confusing benefit. Hard to know who to trust!!
Interesting. I guess you see the video, comment, and then watch later?
Single mom here 1099 make 32k b4 taxes and government kick me out of Tenncare cuz I “make too much to qualify.” Got few insurance quotes for me & my then 3 yrs old son it’s all btw $850-1100 per month. We have been out in the cold for 3 years without any coverage.
Being on “your own” only work if you are single and have decent $$$ in saving and side hustle.
That's true, there is a lot of privilege in being able to afford your own health insurance. I'm sorry about your situation. If it is an option, maybe you could move to another state where you do qualify on that income
Your child would be covered under your state’s health plan for children.
@@irishdva3237 Nope. Income matters. I remember a few years ago we made too much for my child to be covered. We went without insurance for a bit.
Thank obamacare for that. Premiums have skyrocketed under it. Affordable care act has nothing affordable about it.
@@Kenosha01 trumpcare? Since when?
It’s top of the list why I’m still at my day job 🙈
I recommend finding ways to leave the system and establish multiple forms of income for yourself (even if you have to transition into it). I recommend watching YouAreFree TV and Infinite Waters Diving Deep for good information and inspiration.
Don’t spend your HSA on healthcare. Pay out of pocket so you preserve your tax exempt money
BTB has all the early retirement and money saving gems.
Thanks!
I've been waiting for this videos for years! Lol
Sorry it took so long. Thanks for sticking around!
@@BeatTheBush Haha no worries! I forgot I was waiting for this video until you posted 😂 It's crazy to realize I've been watching your videos for years now.
Health insurance is important to have in a pandemic.
Thank you so much
Almost retired eh? Nice!
You can join the reserves in the military too. You get super cheap Tricare Health Insurance and you only drill once a month for two or three days at a job. It's an ultra part-time job, and you even get paid for it AND a pension.
Only works if you're under 42.
Have you researched insurance products net cost abroad?
Local clinic policy with say illness/injury coverage for hospital event? That would be a great video.
Have you looked for ‘direct primary care’ doctors in your area?
We need Medicare-For-All/A single payer healthcare system here in the United States, especially during this time with the Coronavirus pandemic! What is more "Pro-Life" than ensuring that every person in America has guaranteed affordable healthcare regardless of their job or social status? Also, if we all had access to basic healthcare, we would all have the "freedom" to live long lives and rarely have to worry about medical bankruptcies. Sure, taxes will go up, but the overall cost will go down so much that everyone will be paying less and saving thousands of dollars every year. Furthermore, if some of us need additional healthcare than Medicare, then we have the "choice" to get additional insurance, but for others Medicare would be more than enough. Finally, if every other developed country (Canada, Germany, the United Kingdom, France, Italy, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and New Zealand) can implement this system and save money, then why can't the United States do the same and help "Make America Great Again" for everybody at least on the issue of healthcare? Oh, and if American citizens die from lacking access to affordable health insurance because the Republicans believe that the government shouldn't provide it then we are failing our country's promise of defending "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" for its citizens as well as "promoting the general welfare" of all the people.
Why would they do that, when they can squeeze every penny out of every single American?
Americans wanted capitalism; here you go. Greedy healthcare companies making shareholders happy, large corporations taking over ... it’s all to make more billionaires.
Preach!
No
@@momosan11 I wish but I don't see that happening any time soon. Reform is hard when you have such an ingrained system that will have big money behind to resist it.
That's ridiculous to pay per month for a healthy young person. Time to move to Kuala Lumpur where you can pay $500 per year, not month for private health insurance.
The cheapest insurance for my wife and I is $700/mo, and that’s with a $11k/yr deductible. Even if you just visit the doctor a couple times a year for minor stuff, that’s a few thousand more out of pocket. We could move to Thailand and live off that amount and also get better medical care. It really is some crazy system we have here. A friend of mine says it’s not health insurance, it’s wealth insurance, which is basically how I think of it now. It’s the insurance cost you have to pay to live in the US similar to how you can get kidnapping insurance or something.
This is the main thing preventing my coastfire
I use Sidecar health for $1300 every 3 months for a family. It’s not considered health insurance, but it’s a great option for people who usually only go to the doctor for check ups and want some protection for any emergencies.
I live in Chiang Mai. Thai Health Insurance for a foreigner like myself(55 to 60) is about $2000 per year(no monthly premiums allowed). Yes you pay it all at once,. “The Grass is not always greener on the other side”.
Can you explain the difference between the different plans that seem like they're the same plan?
Shop and switch for plans every year it’s like going back and forth from Comcast and att except u go from like United health to Aetna, gotta keep going back and forth every year or your plan cost will get higher every year and you won’t get the best deals
Medicare D prescription drug plans are the same gotta switch every year or cost keeps rising
Is this safe? What if you acquire a preexisting condition on one plan then switch?
do you think US will fix its health insurance cost problem or should I move back to taiwan? I was born in taiwan and came to US when I was 2, so I can have dual US-Taiwan citizenship. I would like to be self-employed. I read that in order to be taiwan citizen, you also have to be able to speak/write chinese, so it will take some investment in time for me to learn to write chinese.
I think you should do a more realistic video for fire who won't make 100k.
I checked for 24k and the subsidies helped lower the price
What you really need to talk about is the insurance we had before the ACA.When people were filling for bankruptcy.
Hmmm. I wish I got some of that before but then I was working for the man at the time and only pay $20/month.
This is the best advise for self employed entrepeneurs. I am not cover for dental, heart attacks surgeries, Self employed we are screwed
I'm enrolling in BLue Cross this winter, how and when can i cancel my UHC plan
Is there a site like this for Massachusetts residents?
What u showed on the screen is comparable around all the states that i came across.
I might sound slow but is there a thing where you quit or got fired from your job right....is it possible to get some or all of the money that was taken out your check every week that wasn't used back
Since you are retired, don't you get a subsidy for the premiums?
Healthcare is the most important thing when thinking about changing and quitting job. Thanks for the video
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Yikes! Makes you re-think getting out of the rat race.......
Just kidding I'm still getting out of the rat race!
Beat the bush. I been offered a job in Jeffersonvill Indiana which business is growing and amazaon fulfillment center there. I made friends there which the weather is only issue. A house cost $150,000 compared to my home in Southern California. I am afraid of taking that risk. Downey California
Alternatively, what was it like for Californians not being forced to buy health insurance without an employer’s help?
I remember working right out of college as a contractor and was furious how much I had to pay covered California, when I was green and not making much. Trying to save money was difficult bc the premiums was insanely expensive.
I quit a couple months ago; in my state insurance isn't going to be an issue until the law changes.
A while back, I got the best plan in my state and they paid none of my medical expenses. Now my state has only one plan and no doctor in my area will take it. If it weren’t for the ACA I wouldn’t be able to get health insurance because I had a rare (but resolved!) complication of an appendectomy. Even though I was healthy I was deemed “uninsurable” just prior to the implementation of the ACA. So while I am glad we have some aspects of the ACA, currently in my state it’s not so great. Certainly our healthcare system needs to change!
These laws can really screw some people and sentence them to death basically.
@@BeatTheBush And it will get worse on 11/10/20, if the Supreme Court determines that the ACA is unconstitutional. The hearing starts on 11/10/20, and Amy Coney Barrett will probably be at this hearing.
How do you hide your savings incase of bankruptcy
Insurance tries to cover everything, even the simple things like a bandage on a cut. There's too much insurance. Health "professionals" charge maximum since insurance will tend pay.
I travel to Vietnam to live. I can get a annual healthcare plan that covers everything for $600 per year
@@TheGayjamboy There is something wrong when if you pay cash, they charge less. It means the insurance is willing to pay more.
@@BeatTheBush Actually paying cash should be cheaper. Then then don't have to submit all the insurance paperwork. Admin costs are high.
In my experience, paying cash has not been cheaper. My insurance has apparently negotiated significant discounts.
Hi. You said you pay $1500/month. Does that include rent?
Very nice. I am thankful that I have insurance through employer, and continue that even though I'm medically retired. The healthcare game is expensive. Health insurance is only about half of what the expense is. People going to doctors, then seeking second opinion, then seeking a specialist, then specialist prescribes treatment/medicines. Pharmacy Benefits managers get a cut, and hospitals get a cut, and other people. You probably don't want to go seek healthcare over in Hong Kong.
This is the main reason I’m still at my job. I was considering an HSA, but I thought HSA contributions and earnings from investments are still subject to state income tax for California?
Nope
Pretty much....
Good video, health insurance is always a big deal, especially for people with 3-4 family members. I got the best plan (100% coverage, include eyes, dental ) for free, 20K saving each year, keeping my job is worth it for me at least.
$20k sounds about right. It's a huge expense.
In California low income households can apply for medi-cal. People who qualify usually get it for free.
Low income. 😭
I picked up a part time and come to find out, the health insurance is massively more expensive than when I had no job. :/
Obamacare is really expensive a 63 year old relative of mine lost their job and after decades of high stress/long hours really did not want to find another job. This relative had over a million dollars saved so you would think early retirement would be no problem right? They would have had to pay $ 1,800 a month which was too much even for them and they had to seriously consider going without insurance, getting the most stripped down version of Obamacare or only withrdrawing 40K a year from their savings/getting a subsidy. 40k a year would have been a hardship they had been making 100 to 150k at their job. I understand having to pay my own insurance but when costs are this unreasonable it puts fire out of reach for all but the wealthiest. You were very lucky to only be paying $300 to $700 a month.
i felt odd complaining to kaiser recently that i was paying good money to put up with their recent limitation on appointments due to covid which felt like pretext. hospitals should be more open during pandemic and not be closed. i asked for refund on co pay
Great information on Insurance. I live in Thailand but am a resident of Florida. Even though Healthcare is super cheap in Thailand I still get ACA health insurance just in case I need to go back to the USA and in case ACA goes away some day. I am hoping I am grandfathered in if it eliminated. Florida is definitely cheaper than CA for ACA health insurance. I like ACA bt the runaway costs need to be addressed. I personally don't believe killing ACA and starting over is the safest option.
But in this video you state great reasons NOT to work for the man but in a newer video you say you are leaving retirement because you are not producing enough and are depressed? I don't get it? Which is it freedom or slavery?
You don't actually have to work for the man to 'work'. In other words, work for yourself more. =D
6:45 LOL !!!
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But this premium triples if you have family with kids.
It like you are penalized to have kids without a job in this country.
I’m not thinking of quitting my job yet, but my employer pays all of my medical plan premiums. It’s an HDHP PPO with $2.8k deductible and $4k oop max.
It's like golden handcuffs that makes it harder to quit.
I'm kinda lucky I guess,maybe, perhaps. I retired a 5 months ago after 33 years and was able to continue getting health insurance with my employer for just under 4300.00 a year and have a 4800.00 deductible though preventable care is free as long as it stays within the guidelines. I still have about 3 more years till I can get medicare. I have diabetes so it would cost a lot more to go out into the market place. Over all I consider myself lucky to have worked at a great employer. I hear people say this all the time that the people they worked with where great it was their boss that weren't. LOL for me I had some of the greatest boss over the years and with most of them we are still friends and keep in contact and that goes from lower management on up.
Wow... 33 years in the work force a true trooper.
Cool
i know i'm late but the whole work from home thing doesnt feellike working from home.. it feels like living in an office
Bro thank you!! He is absolutely correct Companies keep u on the hook because of health insurance and benefits. This is like blackmailing you. What’s worsts of it all our country let all this happen because corporate interest the bought out elected officials in order for the to profit. People always protest 🪧 tons of things but not insurance.😢
I was so surprised about self employed health insurance costs.
So expensive, it's sad.
@@BeatTheBush It wasn't expensive until Obama destroyed the old health plans. They were very cheap before. And it is now illegal to offer them. :/
Just keep your annual income below poverty rate while retired to get on medicaid. Your income is tested, not wealth.
I am glad I live in the Netherlands, with good health service for everyone at a much lower cost.
@@stanislavdidenko8436 Most of my friends got jobs before graduation. And some foreigners I met tried a long time, when I saw their CV and motivation letters they were crap, so no surprise they were never selected. I rewrote CV and made some calls and they all got a job. Salaries are pretty high here and social security system is much better than US too.
@@stanislavdidenko8436 I live here, and I lived in LA, and London, and many more places. You are wrong. I am right. Stop being ridiculous
you get to write off your health insurance premiums , no?
As self employed, yes.
I am risking it going without it!
There is no longer pre condition right? Can you go without health insurance and just coverage when you get sick? Is there still a tax penalty in CA?
Starting in tax year 2019, there is no penalty for not having health coverage. But you risk paying a lot more if anything happens.
BeatTheBush let’s say you don’t have health insurance. You later find out you have diabetes..couldn’t you get health insurance afterward? There is no pre condition. You might get into a car accident but you can increase your auto liability for that. This sounds like you are taking advantage of the system for a healthy adult but it does make financial sense.
@@jmd1378
Auto liability insurance pays the other person when you are in an accident, it doesn't pay you. Accidents are not the only expensive thing that can suddenly happen to a person, I used to work in a hospital and most people were not there for accidents. Examples... a person in their early 30s and got a collapsed lung after working out in the gym...they had no prior health issues, another got a pulmonary embolism, also in their 30's, and there was a person in their 20s that had a stroke. I had a friend who had a boating accident while on vacation that caused significant brain damage, they didn't have insurance and lost everything (house, car, all savings). Hospital bills are big if one is admitted. Medical debt is a major cause of bankruptcy. If someone has no money and is living off the government programs anyway, then it doesn't matter. Everyone else should have medical insurance.
Zeric E No, that is not correct. You can buy liability for medical care for yourself and passengers. And of course there is unexpected risk to going without health insurance.
@@jmd1378 Actually, I am correct, if you don't believe me, use any search engine and ask "what is auto liability coverage". From *Nationwide Insurance* _"Auto liability insurance coverage helps cover the costs of the other driver’s property and bodily injuries if you’re found at fault in an accident."_ And from *Allstate* _"if you are liable for the accident - liability coverage helps pay for the other person's expenses."_ and from *Progressive* _"...instead of paying out of pocket to cover another person’s medical bills or repair their car, your insurance steps in to pay for some or all of the injured party’s expenses"_ The definition will be the same for all companies operating in the United States. What you may be thinking of is Auto "Medical Coverage" which does pay a small amount for injuries you may sustain, in the case of a major injury, it's not going to do much as the limits are typically just a few thousand dollars and a major accident will result in expenses that far exceed the limits. *Feel free to call your own insurance carrier so they can explain it to you.*
I pay $2400/month! The system is broken!
Im moving overseas if the US gov dont fix the outrages prices for healthcare, this is no joke but people have died because they cant afford healthcare
Healthcare is literally the only reason why i have stayed at such a crappy job for 7 years. My coverage for my wife and I per month is $168. After 7 years of this i am ready to quick but unfortunately cant because her works coverage is$400+ per month. Not to be exaggerative but I feel trapped and honestly feel like being dead would be easier.
At work you can go for coffee and meet your coworkers.
Golden Rule is a decent plan.
My dad didn't quit his job he lost it due to covid so now he has no health insurance he can't afford it and when I signed him up to covered CA they reply saying he wasn't eligible because his income was very low (unemployment). I also live in the bay!
I think if they did that they would've directed you to Medical?
@@BeatTheBush I think you meant Medi-Cal (California's Medicaid program).
@@BeatTheBush They did.. I don't understand why though? He wanted to keep Kaiser and we have never applied for Medical so Idk if they offer Kaiser?
Did I miss something ? So your former employer allow you to continue to use their plan so you can get to pay 1500 a year? That's wonderful but I'm not sure much employer will do so
Yes you did. It's $390/month for myself, not $1500/year.
wow
You said at the end you spend 400 dollars then right after that you said you spend about 1500 a month. Are you spending 1500 dollars a month just for your own medical insurance?
I had to go back and listen to it a couple times. I’m confused. Are you paying 400 a month or 1500 a month. Thanks.
$400 for medical insurance premiums. $1500 living expenses which includes the $400
Many FIRE people left to Asia or Europe because of the health expenses are insane in US.
It's hard to pay the health care costs from investments alone. $20k/year means you need $500k in the bank!??!
@@BeatTheBush the health care cost are so much lower in Japan, Malaysia, Spain, Portugal....etc. if i were you , i would move out of US.
@@kylengkyleng One has to consider the total cost of living, not just insurance. Japan and Europe are not cheap to live in overall for example. Some parts of SE asia are inexpensive as are some parts of central america.
@@Zeric1 my family is from Osaka, Japan. The cost of living is definitely cheaper than California.
@@kylengkyleng I'm sure it depends on what part of Japan and what part of the USA someone lives in. My comment was just for general overall cost. SE Asia and Central America are popular places for people leaving the US for a truly lower cost of living.
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It only makes sense to live in California if you need to for a high paying job. Maybe, some people justify it as a lifestyle choice and don’t mind the high taxes and regulations. For a guy like you that earns money online, you should look at moving abroad to save on taxes and cost of living.