Only because k9 would break down on set all the time but it would be nice if they bring k9 back they should have done it in the 60th anniversary and give him to Donna
@@MrKbassett17 I mean technically Luke Smith should still have him, Clyde came back in Tales Of The Tardis so perhaps other SJA Characters could return down the line. Luke with K9 being 2.
Reminds me of the movie The Man From Earth. "I call myself John. Almost always do." There's a lot more to the quote. But I don't want to spoil the scene it's taken from.
Since his nickname is "ΘΣ" it would make sense to look at the name "John" in Greek as well. The name comes from the ancient Greek term meaning "Traveller" or "wanderer", being the present neuter participle of ιεναι (to go).
If Jamie guessed the name right, I guess? The first time the Doctor used the name 'John Smith' was when he was unconscious and Jamie picked it up off of nearby equipment in the Wheel in Space. I remember that the person he was telling the name to also looked at the equipment Jamie was looking at and was like *raises eyebrow suspiciously* xD Although it being the Doctor with time travel, who's to say he didn't make the equipment originally and it was sheer coincidence Jamie saw it at a time when he needed to give a name for the Doctor.
Theta Sigma is referenced in "The Pandorica Opens" when the Doctor translates the oldest writing in the universe and it says Hello Sweetie and then has coordinates. While the Theta Sigma part is probably just part of the coordinates, I like to think it was River poking fun at the Doctor.
The Doctor himself tortured some villains (family of blood) He threw one into the event horizon of a collapsing star, made one the first scarecrow to consciously watch over fields forever and trapped the girl inside every mirror!
A lot of his incarnations was like that. Even thirteen was very much cold when it came to people that she didn't like or trust, such as when The Master came back, she scolded him for allowing her to die in Logopolis and how he left her to die after she was hit by Cybermen in that attack when she was the twelfth doctor. That's why The Valeyard was created during Colin Baker's run as The Doctor. It was meant to be The Doctor in all of his evil twisted self like The Master and even The Master was scared of The Valeyard.
His first visit he ended up on the Empire State Building, chased by Daleks. The second time he ended up getting involved with the gunfight at the OK Corral, had to Doc Holiday as a dentist, and some guy with a guitar kept singing about his life.
@@magicaltour1 His first visit was actually to Tombstone, Arizona if I recall correctly. He had a toothache at the time and had to get Doc Holliday's assistance fixing it.
@@ThomasCorrie Actually the original Doctor stepping out of the teleporter died, but he resets the chamber at the end of each cyclus and it has an identical data print inside, which then "prints" an instance of the Doctor from his entry point, it's basically the original Doctor over and over and over again, not a new "clone" of the Doctor. Kinda like a time loop. Each Doctor does the same stuff, some do it slightly differently (later Doctors count more skulls in the lake, more time passing), but that really doesn't matter, each Doctor starts from that same point, when leaving the teleporter chamber.
See, now I’m wondering if when the doctor turned to 13 that it’s not really a time lord but an amalgamation of the doctor and the timeless child. Then, when 13 regenerates…it resets and picked a doctor that originally cheated the regeneration process (10 and his hand turning into the meta-crisis doctor) Then when 14 splits into 15…perhaps now the timeliness child is separated from the time lord.. My head hurts
With the heaven sent thing, I always thought of it like the doctor loading an old save file of himself and not just creating a whole new version of himself
Yeah, the teleporter was part of the fiction created for the torture chamber in the modified confession dial. He just went into the dial and got messed with for 4.5 billion years, as proven by the fact that once confronted by the diamond wall, he remembers seeing the word “bird” written in the dust and this triggers his memories of every past trek through the loop. He teeters on the brink of despair, imagines what Clara would tell him, and then his oppositional defiant disorder takes over and he goes back to punching the wall. This is all obvious upon rewatch and to claim otherwise at this point is just willful ignorance because nerds love to trot out the “um ACTUALLY teleports KILL YOU” when ACTUALLY tele-porters are a fictional device imagined to reduce production costs and streamline sci-fi narratives, they are just magic carpets with a fresh coat of paint, and being obsessed with the reality of death to the point that you compulsively misrepresent the plots of stories written by other people because you desperately need to tell someone “actually they are dead” is a sign that you have not accepted this and are probably still fixating on some childhood trauma.
@@kalinystazvoruna8702 it’s basically their most consistently written personality trait, and I’m a bit surprised Moffat never had him fall into a trap based around it; if you want the Doctor to do something, just imperiously proclaim that he must not do that thing edit: ahaha now I’m realizing that why Daleks are his constant enemy; they’re incapable of expressing themselves in any manner other than imperious proclamations
@@blinkowarner3117 yeah I know that but the statement that "the original doctor is dead" doesn't make sense to me cause the doctor brought back himself from when he first arrived in the confession dial castle it's not a clone of himself (I don't know if that makes sense but I hope it does)
Apparently River Song knew the Doctor's name in the first episode she ever showed up, way back in season 4. She wispers it to him to prove they have been close, the audience never hears it.
thats because the Doctor tells her his name when they get married , which is a later episode in the Doctors timeline. but an earlier episode in Rivers timeline
@@barthvapour No, the first time The Doctor meets River was when River died. So everything she did is earlier in her timeline than that. Darillium was where she got the sonic that Tenant used to "save" her to the hard drive.
4:43 I like to believe that the moon was a giant egg episode was just some sort of fever dream that Clara had after bumping ahead in the title library or something
There's actually a sci-fi short story which I think inspired that episode. It starts off with the moon hatching which appears to cause tidal waves and earthquakes, but by the end, we find out it's not just the moon, that the earth is hatching too and ends with extinction of everything on Earth. I read that ages ago in a pulp magazine omnibus and was really surprised that Doctor Who picked it up.
You also forgot the silence. How humans are killing the silence on the earth and the huge amount of dead bodies that would be around. Like when someone trips while walking, what if it’s because they tripped over the dead body of the silence.
@@Dedition That the Moon that humankind has marveled at for millennia cracked open and flew off. It diminished the mystery of our Moon tremendously. Then, how the Doctor just abandons humanity and Clara to face such a horrific decision. It nearly ruined Capaldi's doctor for me.
@@ebonstone2980haven’t seen it in awhile so I’ll get back when I do, but I feel like it’s perfect for Doctor Who to have some mysterious and illustrious phenomena to just be something so simple to other aliens.
Don't forget how much the moon influences Earth. Having it vanish for even a moment would be a HUMONGOUS catastrophe for the entire planet. Tsunamis across the entire planet, kind of thing. Then the alien immediately lays another egg, with the exact same mass, right after being born, and the shell just disappears? I get that the show isn't hard sci-fi but there are 𝘭𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘵𝘴 to what you can wave away.
You missed the Theta Sigma Easter Egg in New Who. If you go back to The Pandorica Opens - the cliff face. Ignore the "Hello Sweetie" and look at the 2nd line of text instead. It begins with the Greek letters Theta Sigma.
@@danieloneal7137 Theta Sigma is a VERY obscure bit of Doctor Who trivia even for Classic Who fans. It was very easy to miss - it took me several viewings before I noticed.
@@lanceash Oi, that's really good. I like how the book is outdated even from the first page because so much of it is predicated upon the UK not doing pizza delivery. Also, it's nice.
K-9 ex-machina …. was there anything he couldn’t do? When he called The Doctor “master” it always made me wonder if The Master’s K-9 called him “Doctor”
It’s still funny that Clara says we’ll be fine without tides. It’s not like most ocean life, especially the phytoplankton we rely on for an atmosphere, would all die killing every other life form on earth. Not to mention, the solution is so simple. Find a sizable rogue planet or clump some astroids together, tow them into orbit with the TARDIS, make a new moon.
The confession dial is a pocket dimension, not a simulation, he really dies, and him " remembering " his past loops is not remembering, he works it out.
@@greymage5335 the fact that the wall of crystal is a real thing he can actually remove bits of every cycle, and you can see within the dial while outside it... the galifrayin technology they used is the same as was used in the tardis and the paintings the doctor got inside. an extra dimensional space, the galifrayins can make simulations and digital worlds, because of the galifray hardrive used by missy... but that could only hold a consciousness, and needed to store bodies elsewhere.
@@darkling-studios Well, yeah, and the skulls, but he directly stated he remembered it all, and it's implied the 4 billion years was a torture unto itself. I feel that when he left he had a full memory of every cycle and that he didn't actually die, it was time lord manipulation. But I can't deny your interpretation either.
Im pretty sure that there is an episode where The Doctor mentions that they have all the memories of all the doctors in the confession dial, but that its fragmented or something like that
Susan is a bit psychic in The Sensorites (although she is The Doctor's granddaughter so is Gallifreyan - I don't think we get confirmation that she is a Time Lord as she leaves long before the words Time Lord are ever used). Miss Hawthorne in The Daemons is a self-styled White Witch and can use her 'magic' against the Master's psychically summoned winds, so presumably has a little psychic ability too. Ace does indeed use her belief as a psychic shield to hold back the vampiric haemovores, and it's suggested that anyone would be able to do the same.
Psychic abilities were also a major plot point in Last of the Time Lords when every human on Earth joined forces to revive the Doctor, I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned!
Susan is more than a bit.I believe pretty sure she's got more psychic potential than the doctor It's just that poor writing.Just never gave her the chance to show off@OldManFerdiad Unless my memory is playing Tricks on Me.
@@plantainsame2049 genuinely think they were going to make her more psychic and didn't get around to it. At the time The Doctor was just a man, not a superbeing alien Time Lord. Teenage girl and psychic ability is a very common fiction trope too.
My guess is that the emergence of the Goblins after the Toymaker story wasn't a coincidence. The Doctor accidentally allowed the Toymaker into our dimension and the whole of reality is going to be suffering the results for a while yet - realising it and setting it right (see also Mavity) might well be Ncuti's character arc.
in 1092 (and a half) years, David Tennant's 17th clone is playing the metacrisis Doctor in the second reboot of the Pete's World spin-off, and as the Doctor is about to be wed, he says "Rose Tyler, my name is-" then the credits roll followed by a preview of the next season that never gets released because the remaining five fans don't want to know the Doctor's name. Nobody reboots the franchise afterwards because nobody knows what to do with the Doctor's name being known, and they'd rather reboot the more popular rip-off "Professor Huh?" anyway
@@9nikolai I have sometimes thought "Professor" would be better than "Doctor," but it's too late now. Although Capaldi's Doctor was a professor for seventy-something years or whatever.
There's another example of psychic powers in Planet of the Dead, Carmen the passenger on the bus hears the voices before going through the wormhole - and at the end of the episode, she gives the first speech telling us the Doctor's song is coming to an end.
The Doctor didn't die in 'Heaven Sent'. He was trapped inside a Confession Dial, which held a pocket virtual reality in which the Doctor was subjected to a programmed loop. Imagine being transported into a video game in which you've an infinite number of resets back to the beginning, but each reset allows you to alter the ending little by little until you get the outcome you want. That's the situation the Doctor was in within the confines of the episode. In 'Hell Bent', he says the Confession Dial was never meant as a "torture chamber for the living," implying that he was alive the whole time and never actually died.
Only problem with that is that every time he repowered the teleporter, the version of him that teleported in had no memory of the events his previous selves had experienced. Unless the confession dial is some sort of subconscious trick, in which case the versions of him that 'died' were just his mind coping with the Confession danger.
@@68CastImp That could simply be because the program itself blocked his memories. When one is trapped in a simulation, death is meaningless and memories can be erased or altered.
Exactly. And even if he did physically ‘die’ at the end of each loop, his original consciousness was transferred to the fresh body, because toward the end of every loop he remembers the whole process having happened before.
@@Jazzdumpling The confusion stems partly from the poor writing not making clear enough that the whole experience had been a simulation, and partly from viewers taking things too literally.
@@TheWilkReport I'm not sure if confusion is the right word. Yes sometimes things need to be spelled out, but he was literally trapped in something called "A Confessions Dial", and the General said they only put him there to see what he knew (ie confess) about the Hybrid.
I’d like to think that Amy fixed the entropy issue with Big Bang 2. Wasn’t the crash of the ship that killed Adric also responsible for life on Earth? No wonder we have the Fermi Paradox! If life existing on Earth is the result of two seperate alien incidents, that goes a long way to explaining why we don’t find life everywhere! 😂 And, finally, I like to think the Doctor’s real name is “The Doctor”. Just like “Batman” is Bruce Wayne’s real name. Our real name is what we call ourselves, both consciously, and unconsciously. Growing up, I had a friend who was called “Trish”. Her real name is now Samira, which is how she thinks of herself, and what her husband calls her, even though she was “Trish” when they were married.
As I remember (and forgive me if I'm wrong, it's been a while) the ship that Adric died on wiped out the dinosaurs, paving the way for mammals and the rise of humans.
Don't forget, in 'World Enough & Time' Missy says "hello, I', traveler Dr. Who come to help you!" and Bill asks why she called him that. Missy replies "because his name is Doctor Who". When Bill asks the doctor if that's true he seems embarrassed and doesn't directly answer. When asked about it, Moffat later said, "of course that's his name! He even had WHO 1 on his car!"
Thank you Team WhoCulture. I always enjoy these kind of quirky “did you not realise before this?” type of video. As a total fanatic of the series since January 1970, I really enjoy getting to appreciate my favourite franchise from a new perspective. I’ve always been a “cup half full” kind of fan, although not blind to the faults others loudly decry, I really appreciate content like this which only adds to the positive view of the Doctors’ adventures. ❤
me too !! whilst criticism is sometimes necessary for improvement (and a little rant with a friend can be fun), i do like that this channel focuses a lot on the positive aspects too! sometimes i find that channels can become so bogged down in the negative aspects that it no longer becomes enjoyable to watch? i think it’s because it can end up feeling like the person does not even like the show at all haha 😁😁
4:47 Honestly you can't really talk about this without actually talking about the implications of teleportation technology and how it properly works in the Whoverse. And at that point it breaks down into the Ship of Theseus thought experiment. Not only do you have to talk about how teleportation works, but also Timelord regeneration as well, since it seems to follow a similar concept of breaking down the body and reconstituting it. To quote the Doctor himself: "If I'm killed before regeneration, then I'm dead. Even then, even if I change, it feels like dying. Everything I am dies. Some new man goes sauntering away… and I'm dead."
Regen is always a weird and fascinating one for me. That's how the Doctor thinks ahead towards regeneration, and how he experiences it in the moment. However, following the act, he picks up straight off, full memories, imploring any remaining companions to accept his authenticity as the same person. Of course, there's an "out of universe" element of regen from the lens of the outgoing vs incoming actor.
This is a universe where souls and multiple after lives kinonically exists.Yes, yes, it's the same guy teleporter.Regeneration whatever your soul is a physical thing that can be fucking stolen and shit The Doctor will live on as a biodata.Ghost in the time lord matrix or father half lying in the city of the saved or his mind will go into null space Where he might have a chance to get trapped in the middle and become a ghost
It also retroactively cheapens the death of every companion. As soon as you accept that a teleportation clone is the same person and there's no moral quandary involved, and also there's no "soul" which must be instantly transferred from one body to another with no interruptions, then you have to logical reason not to save and retrieve people from backups if they happen to perish. Therefore, if any companion dies, it only happens because Doctor couldn't be bothered to save them. It also ruins the Doctor's Daughter plot - Doctor was pretty adamant that time lords can not be cloned because they are more than just a combination of atoms. He ended up being wrong, but there is no way he could have had this obviously wrong belief if that's how teleports work in the setting.
I'd like to also mention that in 'The Doctor's Daughter' we saw that The Doctor's daughter has regeneration - all the way back in David Tennant's era, and that the has left for her own adventures in space - and yet, it was never so much as mentioned again, that unbeknownst to The Doctor, there's another Time Lord running around that is his thought-to-be-dead 'daughter'.
I remember reading that the Doctor is the one person from Gallifrey, who is feared by the rest of Gallifrey. In ancient times, both Rassilon and Omega warned of the Doctor. He's also not as clever as he makes out, as he barely scraped through his PhD
"The name 'Theta Sigma'' has never been used again." Not true. At the beginning of "The Pandorica Opens," we see River's inscription message for the Doctor on a cliff, and the first two letters are the Greek letters theta and sigma.
"The smarty-pants people of Logopolis" This is the type of writing that keeps me coming back! The way I handle Kill the Moon is I consider portions canon, and others not canon, and then I don't worry about it. ("You can't do that! Either it's all canon, or none of it is!") It's a TV show; it's not real. Of course I can do that. This was a lot of fun. At several points I found myself grinning like an idiot. Well done. So sore throat better? I hope so. I said I'd keep asking, and it's just going to get weird. I can live with that.
There’s no offical canon anyway, meaning you get to pick and choose what’s canon and what’s not. Any discrepancies can be explained away with how much Time Travelling The Doctor does (by his own admission, he’s the being that’s time travelled the most in the universe)/ The ToyMaker making a puzzle out of his history. I mean, there’s now 3 different genesis of The Daleks (if you include that little RTD short with the un-handicapped Davros) I love this idea, especially coupled with TTC, as it means every time someone plays pretend and is The Doctor, is actually a long lost Doctor or a Doctor from the future/alternative universe. All those fan made Doctor Who shows on CZcams/social media, they’re all canon if you decide it to be. Those B-movies made during the 90’s with Tom Baker and the actress who plays Romana 2 (which were heavily implied to be about The Doctor, but couldn’t use the characters names for copyright reasons, so they called him “The Traveller”) those are also canon. The fact there’s no official canon and is up to the fan getting to choose what’s their Doctor Who and what’s not, deepens the fan base’s connection with Doctor Who in my opinion. Like, what’s if we’re all The Doctor, but we just don’t remember, cause we’ve got our memories stored away, in a FobWatch???
Oh boy, here we go. {10} No, that was stabilized from the culmination of all the Logopolans' work. It became 'self-sufficient' and thus no longer dying, except in the usual respects of normal decay. {9} This isn't news. It's mentioned several times, namely whenever K-9 is featured in an episode and somebody doesn't know why there is a 'tin dog'. {8} In the words of a man called Clarkson, "Oh no! Anyway...". {7} There hasn't really been anything to dispute that, so I don't see the problem. {6} Well no, he's not a copy of the original. He's the original, teleported in over nine hundred billion times. He said so. {5} I think that key was confiscated, so no they can't. {4} With all the things that have happened to the Earth, this doesn't surprise me, but psychic power in Doctor Who isn't magic. It's a branch of science earmarked under 'evolved traits'. {3} Yes, and? Nobody forgot this, or about the Silurians. The show just treats them as either done or a 'future me problem'. {2} You're not even scratching the surface. Jagaroth ship, Racnoss ship, Cyberman ship, the Fendahl, all those cracks in time, all that interference via time travel - all of that has made the Earth and everything on it REALLY WEIRD! {1} You also missed something else: Theta Sigma was the Doctor's nickname, but there was another different non-canon source - a choose your own adventure book - which features Omega taking over the Doctor's body for his own ends. The book posits that the reason this was able to occur was perhaps due to them being related, as in the solar engineer being a distant ancestor of his. Not proven, but these are Greek letter names, and this was not too dissimilar to the plot of The Arc of Infinity.
Agreed - but that just the Chicxulub impact that killed the dinosaurs. Not the start of life itself. And, no Chicxulub is not a Doctor Who reference. It is the name of the village in Mexico that sits in the center of the crater.
As the current 'writers' not just ignore Who lore, they go out of their way to break it, what we know about Who is subject to change at any point down to whatever whim the 'writers' happen to have at the time.
You missed the opportunity to use a clip from An Unearthly Child. When Ian first meets Susan's grandfather, he says, 'Doctor Foreman.' The Doctor replies, 'Doctor who?'
One thing most people overlook... BBC made it canon, right after the episode aired, that when David Tennant regenerated into David Tennant after being shot by the dalek, that was an official regeneration. Which officially made him both the eleventh and twelfth Doctors, respectively. Matt Smith was Doctor thirteen, which was the whole point of him constantly seeing the number 13, and being told he would die soon, and being imprisoned and growing old on Christmas, as it was a life sentence... Once he died, that was supposed to be it... No more regenerations. Except the Time Lords lent him the power to keep regenerating, making Peter Capaldi the Fourteenth Doctor.
Isn't the Canon now that the doctor is the original time lord and doesn't have a regeneration cap and everyone else was biologically given a cap? Was the season 12 finale I think
@@oopomopoo I mean in the current itineration. I think after the pre-Hartnell agency female Doctor, they erased their memories and locked them into a standard twelve regeneration Time Lord cycle, like with any other Time Lord. Whether or not Smith would have regenerated after he died of old age without the help of the other Time lords is unknown... It is possible this was locked off as a part of his sentence, since the ones who sentenced him knew they could. It is also possible that their helping him didn't just give him a new set of regenerations, but, rather, removed, or broke, the lock that had been placed on their own infinite regeneration abilities as a part of their twelve regeneration life sentence. This is just a personal theory.
@@allyndeimos I looked it up after the episode aired, and saw BBC confirmed it in some newspaper article, or, possibly web article... long time ago, not certain anymore... they had over there, likely from all the fans asking if it happened or not. Whether they retconned this decision, or not, since, I'm holding to the original statement made, as this makes Smith's run make far more sense.
@@LlorDrei I'm more inclined to believe that the fugitive Doctor's memery was scrubbed and the reprogramming after regeneration made them belive that they were the first incarnation and only had 12 regenerations, but because the Doctor is the Timeless Child, really has an infinite amount of them. The explosion of the Dalek fleet in "The Time of the Doctor" most likley caused by the infusion of regeneration energey, suplied by an ignorant Timelord Council, who didn't know the big secret and it "bleeding off" as the explosion, rather than being absorbed by the Doctor
The theory that the "original" doctor is dead only works if you apply a totally linear way of thinking but being that the doctor is a time traveler and the nature of time travel itself that makes it possible for every version of the doctor we have seen to in fact be the "original" doctor just a doctor from a different time and if the old one dies and is replaced just because of a teleport the same thing could be said for any number of characters through out the entire show since they use a teleport almost every other episode it seems
He was the script editor on the show for that season. He rewrote the original script to the point that that person didn't want they're name attached to it, and so a pseudonym is used in the credits. You can see Douglas's work in other scripts as well (off the top of my head: The Pirate Planet, Creature from the Pit, and Shada--which was derailed by a labor strike).
I think when the doctor is in the Confession Dial his mind is in the whole place, its time lord tec like the watch that makes him human, its his mental energy inside it, thats why death following him and him coming back is the perfect torture for him because death is what was on his mind when he entered it. like how he comes back but the people he loves cant is the worced thing for him to face. and i think he remembers the other times at the wall cause when hes imagining being in the tardis he says" but i can remember clara, you dont understand i rememeber it all everytime and you'll still be gone" and that would make sense cause it wouldnt be a good way to get information out of him if he couldnt remember each time, like the wall is like he remembers and they're like tell us and you get to go home or dont tell us and you have to do it all again. i think in doctor who the mind is different from the body like the master put his mind in a ring once i think and the toymaker put him in a tooth. normal teleport might kill him though i guess unless they send the mind energy like wifi to the new body when they send the info for the new body over but the flesh ganger episodes it shows why it doesnt matter anyway because they're both real people. just a guess, I might be wrong ,thats what I thought when I watched it.
One thing that's never been addressed is the effect the Osirons building pyramids on Mars would have had on the Ice Warriors. After all they inspired the whole of Egyption civilisation so was Martian society similarly influenced?
In the expanded media it is explained that the Osirans sort of controlled early martian civilisation as well as later Egyptian civilisation they used the Ice Warriors to build things on Mars and had a big influence on their culture
The fact that he's different atoms doesn't mean much. You aren't made out of any of the stuff you were bade out of when you're born. All the atoms cycle.
Nothing about all humans subconciously murdering the silence and then forgetting about it every time they look away? That has to be the most tramautizing thing noone remembers.
You forgot the cybermen who crashed a spaceship onto earth and killing Adric as well as the dinosaurs, to make place for the mammals evolving into humans. And the (nick)name of the Doctor (known to River Song) was placed on a cliff-side on some prehistoric world along some coordinates and the greatings "hello sweety" for 11th
A couple of honorable mentions. Amy lost her parents twice. Every statue including the Empire State building is a weeping angel. Which if all images of a weeping angel are an angel then by mass production we've accidentally made billions of weeping angels.
That brings to mind, does it matter the size of the statue? The look of the statue? If every single statue is a weeping angel, are lawn gnomes weeping angels? Are figurines? Are toys? Amiibo figures are technically small statues. Are they tiny weeping angels? What constitutes a statue in this definition?
Amelia and Amy lived in two separate whoniversis. (remembering each others lives due to the radiation leak from the crack in thier walls) =series 5 takes place within two spearate whoniversis and the show jumps inbetween them everytime something wdding related is on screen, (twice in Eleventh hour) and this goes for Donna Nobles when she was seen as a bride in Doomsday-End of time (=series 3 & 4 took place within the new WHoniverse.... as "Doomsday" = same as "Big Bang" which happend outisde the TARDIS as the call with Rose got cut off.... (due to there no longer being a classic whoniverse) and then the new Whoniverse was formed outside around the TARDIS = Donna was "drawn" to the TARDIS as it was the TARDIS first time in the new WHoniverse (our Doctor have been there once before;the 6th Doctor)
Strictly speaking the original doctor being dead thing isn't actually true. His deaths take place inside a timelord construct intended to house his consciousness, which is also how (as is explicitly stated) he remembers his past cycles despite the teleporter reproducing him "as I was when I first got here". The confession dial isn't part of the physical universe per se, it's more like a micro-version of the matrix on Gallifrey. Something similar is used in Death in Heaven as well. The technology is used more broadly than just in that one system on Gallifrey.
I have to disagree with the teleporting one. The thing is, the confession dial is a self-contained pocket universe. When you consider that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, and matter is just energy slowed down enough to manifest physically, the energy his body is providing for the teleport means it basically is recreating himself from himself, like a different type of regeneration.
I feel that the teleporter in the confession dial can be a good way to explain the Valeyard. Since the dial was made by Timelords and they are obviously time travelers maybe one of them gotten ahold of the broken one and was able to power up the teleporter to work. However, since the dial was damaged or the Timelords didn't want another Doctor running around with an unlimited amount of regeneration, they gave it enough power to regenerate once to Michael Jayston. Perhaps, this clone doctor was genetically modified to have the darker instincts more dominant. This works with the 12th Doctor, considering that he was originally written as a Doctor with a mean streak. Maybe the Valeyard was created by the high council with the intention to have someone who thinks like the Doctor, but without the Doctor's rebellious nature. Maybe the Valeyard got his start in Division.
Ooh I like your ideas. The concept of the division in itself is creepy and dark for the Doctor. The fact that he was working for them without having memory of it is terrifying probably in his perspective. Valeyard being in the division or part lead of it would make sense.
I would like to add some forgotten TARDIS facts: the TARDIS was designed to be piloted by a team. This is the real reason why there are always turbulences when just the doctor controls it. Newer writers don't know this and there are many scenes where the doctor just pushes one button and the TARDIS works smooth. The sounds of the TARDIS which we are so familiar about are actually because the doctor travels with handbrake activated. Nothing can materialize in the TARDIS and nothing can brute force open the TARDIS, which again many writers keep forgetting.
I still think that the "timeless child" is the Master due to the fact that he seems to continuously, both in Classic & New Who, manages to escape permanent death at the thirteenth regeneration. To me, it fits better than the Doctor, especially since 11 was "given" another set of 12 regenerations. Why do that if the Doctor has infinite amount of regenerations? Furthermore, it would make the Master more sinister if he *was* the "timeless" child. Just my take on things.
The timeless child as depicted was a young child but wasn't a baby. It would have had a name and would have known what that name was and would have retained that knowledge through all its regenerations up until the Time lords wiped its memory. Hence even if initially it was unable to tell Tecteun its name because it didn't know Tecteun's language it would have been able to tell her later. If it then kept that name then it would have been safer for the Time Lords after wiping the knowledge about the Timeless child to have kept using that same name since otherwise someone might slip up fairly easily by mistakenly using that old name.
10:18 let’s not forget that _the universe_ owes its existence to an exploding spaceship. The starship that was later used to treat Lazars disease in “Terminus” was a timeship that had previously exploded while in the time vortex, and while it survived the explosion (damaged, but not destroyed), that explosion was the Big Bang that started the universe. The Doctor Who universe is surprisingly dependent on exploding spaceships. 🤷♀️ 😁
The Zygon treaty was explained. It wasn't the first time a group of Zygons attempted what they did. The Doctor basically returns every once in a while to ensure the treaty is renewed whenever the Zygons act up. The Zygons try to take over, they go to the Black Archives, and the Doctor gives his speech after which two idiots who recently lost their memories hash it out. The episodes are implied to have not been the first time, because The Doctor has it set up too well for it to be the first time. We just never get to visit again, because the matter has been resolved.
Doctor who in the confession dial might not have physically happened. It might have simply been a simulation with his mind while his body is timy-wimy temporal paused. Much like some of the movies around a 'prison' being simulated in someone's mind where 1 minute on the outside is 100 years on the inside, the body is unaffected.
The biggest problem with "Heaven Sent" isn't that he's creating a copy of himself... it's that, in every one of those loops (several million of them), the Doctor managed to somehow drag himself back to the console and activate it before expiring. Why they added that detail instead of just having him automagically teleport in each time is beyond me.
Honestly everything since heaven sent being 1 long continuous confession dial torture scene would be about the only way most of chibnal era makes any sense and would fix the fever dream of the weird bill pots season
The moon rings like a bell when hit by objects from space. Scientists discovered this phenomenon by measuring moonquakes. They deliberately crashed the Apollo lander to study the effects of the deliberate impact. After the astronauts were safely back in the command model. So when it hit the instruments registered it. It registered a gain a short time later, and this repeated for a while. So it could be an egg.
@indycar1007 - "eggs" don't "ring" when hit with an object. As a person raising chickens, if you hit an egg with an object, it will crack. More likely, it's just the 3% of iron in the moon that is "ringing".
It didn't really ring like a bell, that's a bit of an exaggeration. Moonquakes behave differently to Earthquakes due to the different makeup of the Moon's crust and surface. From all experimentation, the Moon is pretty much as you'd expect it--crust, mantle, core. I think it's amazing enough without it being hollow or an egg!
@@kalinystazvoruna8702yes, but that's because eggs tend to be very small compared to any object that you hit them with. Say an ant fell on an egg, would the egg crack?
The Doctor is also a King Dowager. Married Liz 1. No assertion that they ever divorced. I could say more, but I think Rose beat me to it on some ship that had broken down way in the future.
Actually the first 3 doctors are dead. RIP William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton and John Pertwee. The actors anyway. Yeah - the doctor did die rather a lot in the Confession Dial.
6, if you include Richard Hurndall (portrayed The 1st Doctor in “The Five Doctors”) & Peter Crushing (played the human Dr. Who, who invented TARDIS, from “The Daleks” movies.)
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Well, one got resurrected, didn't he? And twice, first in "the five doctors" and then in "twice upon a time" 🙂
@ those were not resurrections. They are part of the timeline and may or may not remember (in canon) the events. For example in “The Day of The Doctor” 11 said “Oh I remember this” when the portal opened up and he threw in his fez. The most part of it they don’t remember - I don’t remember the reason why though- I would need to rewatch it.
Theta sigma is more like a rank than a true name. The doctor is the timeless child and his original name is on the other side of that portal he was found in front of.
Personally I'm taking the Daleks at their word and guessing the Doctor's real name translates to "Oncoming Storm" (or "Storm Oncoming" depending on which naming convention you go with),
His name would be in the Time Lord language so his name would mean that in English. Don't think we've heard the Time Lord language (since the TARDIS translates everything). Then again, translations aren't always 1:1. Melody Pond retranslated becomes River Song.
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@@Paulafan5it's not because of Tardis's translation, but because in the language of the people of the gamma forest (or whatever it is) "the only water in the forest is river"; and because the soldier from the gamma forest (whatever her name was) embroidered river's first name and surname on each side of the prayer leaf, word order got reversed. This is explained in "when a good man goes to war"
Also number 1 rule the Doctor lies. I don’t think that cradle ever had rivers name on it. In fact it could’ve potentially been a family cradle so The Doctors name would’ve been on there but Prehaps his own children’s names, as he confirmed to be a father at one point. So it could’ve been memory of that family on Gallifrey.
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@@shannonsmith924 did he say it had "river's" name on it, though? It may or may not have the doctor's name on it, because it's gallifreyan and the Tardis doesn't translate, but I have to see the episode again, I haven't watched it for over a year now 🙄 as far as I remember, it was river who said it was her name on the cradle, and obviously rule 1 applies to her as well 😁
@@shannonsmith924I thought the cradle did have the Doctors name on it. It was his cradle from childhood. River’s name was on the prayer leaf. Granted, I’ve been watching for far too long and have forgotten more than I remember.
It is canon for one specific reason; Hidden in plain sight our Earth was stolen (this you part you know) what you dont know /realise is that our Earth was "returned" to the wrong whoniverse in end of episode Journeys end. = Our classic whoniverse/era Earth was taken over into the new (Doomsday/Big Bang) Whoniverse where our mankind (from the classic Whoniverse) will get exterminated in a massive Dalek invasion and the Daleks conqours our Earth and turn it into new Skaro. (I can show you if you are interessted how we know this above with inshow sources) As mankind is about to get exterminated our (now former) Doctor have this plan to save us all using his knowledge of how the timeline (for the new WHoniverse) have changed since it had its creation; Using this knowledge; he/she have been setting up a hidden in plain sight plan to litterly save us all as we die. (to heaven and hell). This following bit i skip a ton of stuff like how our former Doctor became Romes emperor in 97AD then Merlin etc etc Ashildurs grandfather etc etc living thru history from atleast 4BCE where our now former Doctor gave birth to a child that had to die with a crown of thorns on HER head (this whoniverse around) in southwestern England in around 33AD. (this is most likly the Timeless child for this whoniverse) (the timeless child for the classic WHoniverse was a certain jewish child that went somewhere unknown for "20 years" while growing up) ("John Smith" is actually a variant of Joseph) = our young (1st) Doctor was the Timeless childs stepdad and our Doctor´s original wife was the mother to that child; (This is super sneakily in the show as a female Rassilon once was the original wife of our Doctor; skipping lots of inshow sources for this))) Just know it will happen to our Doctor in the new WHoniverse while married to his 3rd wife (the new Whoniverse Doctor) I totally get why you most likly do not get the above its super cleverly hidden in plain sight; What is not super hidden and possible to see without deep knowledge of the timeline) is the following. Living thur history (without a working timemachine since atleast 4BCE) (The last TARDIS have died/ascended) (yes thats also in the show) Our former Doctor in 1948 as the UN got created in New York got elected mankinds president in times of need. (This is where the Williams reuninon will take place) After that our former DOctor began building a replacement timemachine. (You have seen it thruout the show several times) And as the Master needed control all of mankind (End of time) he built a harddrive that was able to store our dormant (but still living minds) (Same was seen in Bells of St John; there a another harddrive was used but more on that perhaps later; it involves the dead TARDIS harddrive)) Just for now realise there was a "blank save" made of everyone where everyones minds where returned thier bodies of the "Master-race" as it "died" when everyones souls was returned to thier bodies (including you and me) This harddrive was implimented into the incomplete new replacement timemachine. You saw the unfinished controlroom to this new timemachine in the 50th special. The time moves on toward 5145AD when the first wave of the massive Dalek invasion iss about to take place (rest of time will be attacked shortly after) and the National art museum (the incomplete replacement timemachine) is sent out into space with Starship UK. Where it becomes the library. And with River Songs mind is completed to become a fully functional timemachine ("RIVERS" in lack of a proper name)) There are a few things worth mentioning here before moving on: Clara when she died (kiled by the Raven) had her "soul" saved to the harddrive. ("the black smoke") And Using one of the blank "Master race" saves (most likly the one of herself) she was uploaded into the library as CAL.....(which is to become the 1st Doctor for this new Whoniverse) (Clara unknowingly acepted to become the new WHoniverse Doctor on Akhaten; i can show you how if you want later) ..... the completed "RIVERS" we have seen thruout the show under several names...amongst the "Glass people ship" & Church of the papal mainframe Also know to us as "heaven and hell" with thier running simulation that stores everyones souls...(this includes Missy and that robot man PC killed) MIssy is a special case thou that i wont go into right here just know shes an ascended being (the new WHoniverse Black guardian over time) the original RIVERS then becomes on Trenzalore the "MAtrix" for the new rulers over time......us..... Where the 1st save acts as basestations for the second set of saves the original RIVERS have made of everyone thruout history.... All this (above) also happend to those that became the Timelords (but in the classic WHoniverse) having thier Earth be stolen from a previous whoniverse and it ending up in the classic whoniverse where some tincans killed them all and Rassilion saved them all by building the very first TARDIS .... =Rose Marion Tyler = Romanalunda =Her brother = our Doctor =The Metacrysis = The Valeyard =The Master = the child of the the Bad wolf girl and the man born out of war and chaos... + ALOT MORE
2:02 "The Australian made K9 show that we never ever ever ever talk about." If I hear that show brought up by anyone, I'm grabbing a torch and pitchfork
Finding out for the first time that the moon has always been a giant egg in the Doctor Who universe is kinda like finding out your own cells are and always have been descended from archaea rather than bacteria, in the real universe :) I don't really see Heaven Sent as killing the Doctor, so much as sorta rewinding his mind's personal timeline back to a specific point as the old body dies. That's a quibble -- but I definitely think that because it relies so much on vaguely-explained time lord technology, there are many ways to interpret that story, and having each version of the Doctor suffer a permanent death is only one of them.
I am not sure the universe has always been dying applies anymore, we've had at least one universal reboot since thanks to the whole Pandorica incident.
I hate when people say that the Doctor is 4 billion years old because of the time he spent trapped in the confession dial... no he isn't. He is however old he was when he first arrived, plus the span of the last version that managed to escape. And it always annoys me that anybody who teleports is dead, so the original Doctor is long gone xD Edit: I commented this before all this was mentioned in the vid lol
He is though, He went in, had 4billion years worth of misery and came out. He remembered everything, one continual experiance. As an aside, i dont know how old you are but given a good number of decades under your belt you will have none of the atoms/matter you started with (a lot less really, but thats just human aging). But you have a continual consciousnes all that time. We are all Triggers Broom, but the episode just does it in one go.
I may have this wrong, but I always thought the K9 the Doctor left for Sarah Jane at the end of SCHOOL REUNION was just the version we saw in that episode, but refurbished/repaired. The more advanced K9 (the one that flies) could have been ANY of the ones listed in the video, but is most likely to be the one that left with Leela. Why? Because he's on Gallifrey and even if he's mostly with the Shebogans he's the one most likely to be upgraded and travel through time.
The Doctor has messed with the Web of Time so much, that they've created whole other realities. In some the Moon is an egg, in others a wandering planetoid that scared the Silurians into hibernation. Possibly the Doctor is the singular entity that is responsible for creating the whole of the multiverse in the first place!
To be fair, a giant space bat flying up to your planet would probably be a *great* reason to be scared into hibernation, even if all it wanted to do was lay an egg in orbit nearby. ;-)
For point 6, I respectfully say that time travel is being ignored. I say this because it's not a copy. It is a repeat being a repeat. It is the actual Doctor that repeats that teleportation. From that more specific moment in time that is what is happening, so it's not a copy. It is a repeating of that action and because of the continuation that does occur in the space where he's at that body does disintegrate, the Doctor that arrives is repeating. It's a repeat, so it's exactly that Doctor arriving, it's that same Doctor arriving.
The Moon is an Egg is one of those Doctor Who stories that would’ve been a lot better to set on an alien world. There are several that make no damn sense but if it wasn’t Earth, you’d say it was fair enough for sci-fi.
There was also the exploding spaceship that killed off the dinosaurs making way for the humans setting in on Earth in the story Earthshock. The original explosion created just life in general for planet Earth in City of Death.
Are you forgetting that he was inside the confession Dial? Heaven Sent happened in his mind, so he never really died. If he had died, the Confession Dial would of opened for Missy. The device itself is so the Time Lords can upload Time Lord minds to the Matrix.
I personally have never gotten past the fact that the doctor spent 4 1/2 billion years punching for a wall, dying billions more times and as he says in the episode remembering it everytime. Honestly really makes sense why he is unhinged in Hell Bent… then never mentioned again.
And hate to be nit picky but if Moffett said that he usually spent a month in each cycle, and died times that by twelve then times that by 4.5 billion and its alot more then a few million. More like the continuing adventures of Doctor copy 68 billion!
Another issue is that also might explain why some of the Doctor's reaction to things are different than ours is sensory. In previous episodes we have seen examples of how The Doctor's eyes can perceive more colors (and perhaps a wider spectrum). Another example is when he comments on how the clone version of Martha smells. It is just an example of how The Doctor's experiences of the world is different from ours. In a way, his reality only intersects with out own.
Everyone loved K9 except the production team back in the seventies.
Only because k9 would break down on set all the time but it would be nice if they bring k9 back they should have done it in the 60th anniversary and give him to Donna
Love the outtake of Tom Baker swearing at it.
@@MrKbassett17 I mean technically Luke Smith should still have him, Clyde came back in Tales Of The Tardis so perhaps other SJA Characters could return down the line. Luke with K9 being 2.
Not a big K-9 fan
Tom Baker said that their K9 unit would topple from going over "a cigarette end."
You missed the other exploding spaceship that set the course of evolution. Adric was on the ship that became the "meteor" that killed the dinosaurs.
What about Terminus, and the Vipod Mor? Between them, they are responsible for the creation of the entire universe.
Came to the comments for this.
This is where the TrueFans™ are, salute
I was thinking of the same thing and the others as well. we dug up more things that was left in the back, and yes I am very much a true fan.
@@stifynbaker2914 It's exploding spaceships all the way down...
It is my headcanon that the Doctor's name actually is John Smith, but that "John Smith" is just the English translation of their Gallifreyan name.
Good thinking!
Reminds me of the movie The Man From Earth. "I call myself John. Almost always do." There's a lot more to the quote. But I don't want to spoil the scene it's taken from.
Since his nickname is "ΘΣ" it would make sense to look at the name "John" in Greek as well. The name comes from the ancient Greek term meaning "Traveller" or "wanderer", being the present neuter participle of ιεναι (to go).
If Jamie guessed the name right, I guess? The first time the Doctor used the name 'John Smith' was when he was unconscious and Jamie picked it up off of nearby equipment in the Wheel in Space. I remember that the person he was telling the name to also looked at the equipment Jamie was looking at and was like *raises eyebrow suspiciously* xD
Although it being the Doctor with time travel, who's to say he didn't make the equipment originally and it was sheer coincidence Jamie saw it at a time when he needed to give a name for the Doctor.
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On the Zygon two-parter: "in the nine years since..." My God my heart nearly stopped
Oh my you're right
Wait I didn't realise this 😭
Good for the second one
Can someone explain?
@usm4n992 were getting older, for me and many others Capaldi feels so recent, I was a teenager when 12s tenure was running live
Theta Sigma is referenced in "The Pandorica Opens" when the Doctor translates the oldest writing in the universe and it says Hello Sweetie and then has coordinates. While the Theta Sigma part is probably just part of the coordinates, I like to think it was River poking fun at the Doctor.
yes!! exactly.
The Doctor himself tortured some villains (family of blood)
He threw one into the event horizon of a collapsing star, made one the first scarecrow to consciously watch over fields forever and trapped the girl inside every mirror!
He the Man!
A lot of his incarnations was like that. Even thirteen was very much cold when it came to people that she didn't like or trust, such as when The Master came back, she scolded him for allowing her to die in Logopolis and how he left her to die after she was hit by Cybermen in that attack when she was the twelfth doctor.
That's why The Valeyard was created during Colin Baker's run as The Doctor. It was meant to be The Doctor in all of his evil twisted self like The Master and even The Master was scared of The Valeyard.
Buffy: I thought I was mean to vampires.
after they had tortured and killed, and he DID try to avoid them
"We wanted to live forever so the Doctor made sure that we did"
The Doctor needs to stay away from America. The first time I know of that he came here he stepped out of the TARDIS and was shot.😱
If I recall correctly, he went there once with River, Amy and Rory for a nice picnic, and Also was shot.
His first visit he ended up on the Empire State Building, chased by Daleks. The second time he ended up getting involved with the gunfight at the OK Corral, had to Doc Holiday as a dentist, and some guy with a guitar kept singing about his life.
Then killed on a beach
@@magicaltour1 His first visit was actually to Tombstone, Arizona if I recall correctly. He had a toothache at the time and had to get Doc Holliday's assistance fixing it.
Sums up America perfectly
He's gone through like a million teleporters in his life. If that was the same as being dead, he'd have been dead decades ago.
That's not it though, the original version of him in Heaven sent quite literally dies, and a copy of him is downloaded in his place.
@@ThomasCorrie Actually the original Doctor stepping out of the teleporter died, but he resets the chamber at the end of each cyclus and it has an identical data print inside, which then "prints" an instance of the Doctor from his entry point, it's basically the original Doctor over and over and over again, not a new "clone" of the Doctor. Kinda like a time loop. Each Doctor does the same stuff, some do it slightly differently (later Doctors count more skulls in the lake, more time passing), but that really doesn't matter, each Doctor starts from that same point, when leaving the teleporter chamber.
See, now I’m wondering if when the doctor turned to 13 that it’s not really a time lord but an amalgamation of the doctor and the timeless child. Then, when 13 regenerates…it resets and picked a doctor that originally cheated the regeneration process (10 and his hand turning into the meta-crisis doctor) Then when 14 splits into 15…perhaps now the timeliness child is separated from the time lord..
My head hurts
Scotty: One Time Lord to beam up, Captain.
@@ThomasCorrie his current organic shell dies yes, doesnt mean HE dies
With the heaven sent thing, I always thought of it like the doctor loading an old save file of himself and not just creating a whole new version of himself
Yeah, the teleporter was part of the fiction created for the torture chamber in the modified confession dial. He just went into the dial and got messed with for 4.5 billion years, as proven by the fact that once confronted by the diamond wall, he remembers seeing the word “bird” written in the dust and this triggers his memories of every past trek through the loop. He teeters on the brink of despair, imagines what Clara would tell him, and then his oppositional defiant disorder takes over and he goes back to punching the wall.
This is all obvious upon rewatch and to claim otherwise at this point is just willful ignorance because nerds love to trot out the “um ACTUALLY teleports KILL YOU” when ACTUALLY tele-porters are a fictional device imagined to reduce production costs and streamline sci-fi narratives, they are just magic carpets with a fresh coat of paint, and being obsessed with the reality of death to the point that you compulsively misrepresent the plots of stories written by other people because you desperately need to tell someone “actually they are dead” is a sign that you have not accepted this and are probably still fixating on some childhood trauma.
@@chexfan2000 " oppositional defiant disorder" What a great description of the Doctor's personality!
@@kalinystazvoruna8702 it’s basically their most consistently written personality trait, and I’m a bit surprised Moffat never had him fall into a trap based around it; if you want the Doctor to do something, just imperiously proclaim that he must not do that thing
edit: ahaha now I’m realizing that why Daleks are his constant enemy; they’re incapable of expressing themselves in any manner other than imperious proclamations
In Heaven Sent, you can see thousands and thousands of skulls under the water. All of those skulls are The Doctor.
@@blinkowarner3117 yeah I know that but the statement that "the original doctor is dead" doesn't make sense to me cause the doctor brought back himself from when he first arrived in the confession dial castle it's not a clone of himself (I don't know if that makes sense but I hope it does)
Apparently River Song knew the Doctor's name in the first episode she ever showed up, way back in season 4. She wispers it to him to prove they have been close, the audience never hears it.
thats because the Doctor tells her his name when they get married , which is a later episode in the Doctors timeline. but an earlier episode in Rivers timeline
@@danewood2309I thought the Doctor didn't actually tell her his name, just pretending to whilst he told her something else?
@@barthvapour Maybe he told it to her when they were at the Singing Towers of Darillium.
@@R.F.9847 but that's later in River's timeline than when the Doctor meets her for the first time. So no. Basically, it's a plot cock up.
@@barthvapour No, the first time The Doctor meets River was when River died. So everything she did is earlier in her timeline than that. Darillium was where she got the sonic that Tenant used to "save" her to the hard drive.
UNIT never listens to the Doctor. Kate: "You specifically told us not to-" Doctor: "Do you have a Time Window?" Kate: "Ten floors down."
4:43 I like to believe that the moon was a giant egg episode was just some sort of fever dream that Clara had after bumping ahead in the title library or something
Hear hear and Amen to that! 👍👍👍
It was supposed to be the Moon being captured by the Earth's gravity that caused the Silurians to revive millions of years too late.
There's actually a sci-fi short story which I think inspired that episode. It starts off with the moon hatching which appears to cause tidal waves and earthquakes, but by the end, we find out it's not just the moon, that the earth is hatching too and ends with extinction of everything on Earth. I read that ages ago in a pulp magazine omnibus and was really surprised that Doctor Who picked it up.
You also forgot the silence. How humans are killing the silence on the earth and the huge amount of dead bodies that would be around. Like when someone trips while walking, what if it’s because they tripped over the dead body of the silence.
Of them all, The Moon being an egg has upset me the most. Kill the Moon really bothered me as a story as a whole.
Same but why?
@@Dedition That the Moon that humankind has marveled at for millennia cracked open and flew off. It diminished the mystery of our Moon tremendously. Then, how the Doctor just abandons humanity and Clara to face such a horrific decision. It nearly ruined Capaldi's doctor for me.
@@ebonstone2980haven’t seen it in awhile so I’ll get back when I do, but I feel like it’s perfect for Doctor Who to have some mysterious and illustrious phenomena to just be something so simple to other aliens.
Princess Celestia: My dear sister, Luna, cannot watch "Kill The Moon". Keeps her up ALL DAY.
Don't forget how much the moon influences Earth. Having it vanish for even a moment would be a HUMONGOUS catastrophe for the entire planet. Tsunamis across the entire planet, kind of thing.
Then the alien immediately lays another egg, with the exact same mass, right after being born, and the shell just disappears?
I get that the show isn't hard sci-fi but there are 𝘭𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘵𝘴 to what you can wave away.
You missed the Theta Sigma Easter Egg in New Who. If you go back to The Pandorica Opens - the cliff face. Ignore the "Hello Sweetie" and look at the 2nd line of text instead. It begins with the Greek letters Theta Sigma.
haha nice
So his real name is Sweetie!
Priceless.
That’s pretty cool. How did I never know that?
@@danieloneal7137 Theta Sigma is a VERY obscure bit of Doctor Who trivia even for Classic Who fans. It was very easy to miss - it took me several viewings before I noticed.
@@KyleWitten You're a bloody legend, mate.
The Douglas Adams episode is basically dirk Gentlys holistic detective agency ( one of Douglas Adams best books )
story*; and that book literally is an adaptation of his two Season 17 stories. He never made any secret of that fact.
I just finished reading The restaurant at The End of the Universe 2 minutes ago I LOVE DOUGLAS ADAMS
The first one was OK, but the Long Dark Tea-Time was not.
@@lanceash Oi, that's really good. I like how the book is outdated even from the first page because so much of it is predicated upon the UK not doing pizza delivery. Also, it's nice.
Love DGHDA ❤
K-9 ex-machina …. was there anything he couldn’t do? When he called The Doctor “master” it always made me wonder if The Master’s K-9 called him “Doctor”
It’s still funny that Clara says we’ll be fine without tides. It’s not like most ocean life, especially the phytoplankton we rely on for an atmosphere, would all die killing every other life form on earth.
Not to mention, the solution is so simple. Find a sizable rogue planet or clump some astroids together, tow them into orbit with the TARDIS, make a new moon.
OK! It's Science Fiction, not Science Class! (wink!)
The confession dial is a pocket dimension, not a simulation, he really dies, and him " remembering " his past loops is not remembering, he works it out.
Interesting. Is there info confirming it's a physical pocket dimension?
@@greymage5335 the fact that the wall of crystal is a real thing he can actually remove bits of every cycle, and you can see within the dial while outside it... the galifrayin technology they used is the same as was used in the tardis and the paintings the doctor got inside. an extra dimensional space, the galifrayins can make simulations and digital worlds, because of the galifray hardrive used by missy... but that could only hold a consciousness, and needed to store bodies elsewhere.
@@darkling-studios Well, yeah, and the skulls, but he directly stated he remembered it all, and it's implied the 4 billion years was a torture unto itself. I feel that when he left he had a full memory of every cycle and that he didn't actually die, it was time lord manipulation. But I can't deny your interpretation either.
@@greymage5335 In the finale of Season 9, Rassilon says "You have been in that confession dial for billions of years"
Im pretty sure that there is an episode where The Doctor mentions that they have all the memories of all the doctors in the confession dial, but that its fragmented or something like that
Who else thought gong by the thumbnail, the “original Doctor is dead” sequence was going to be about William Hartnell’s passing long ago?
Psychic abilities - Ace is mentioned to be psychic in the Curse of Fenric, but it isn't really explored after that.
Susan is a bit psychic in The Sensorites (although she is The Doctor's granddaughter so is Gallifreyan - I don't think we get confirmation that she is a Time Lord as she leaves long before the words Time Lord are ever used).
Miss Hawthorne in The Daemons is a self-styled White Witch and can use her 'magic' against the Master's psychically summoned winds, so presumably has a little psychic ability too.
Ace does indeed use her belief as a psychic shield to hold back the vampiric haemovores, and it's suggested that anyone would be able to do the same.
Psychic abilities were also a major plot point in Last of the Time Lords when every human on Earth joined forces to revive the Doctor, I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned!
@@CallumMcPherson yeah, that does really make psychic abilities and technology compatible.
Susan is more than a bit.I believe pretty sure she's got more psychic potential than the doctor It's just that poor writing.Just never gave her the chance to show off@OldManFerdiad Unless my memory is playing Tricks on Me.
@@plantainsame2049 genuinely think they were going to make her more psychic and didn't get around to it. At the time The Doctor was just a man, not a superbeing alien Time Lord. Teenage girl and psychic ability is a very common fiction trope too.
The twelfth Doctor explicitly states at the end of each loop in Heaven Sent he can remember each loop at the end.
I'm just waiting for the ultimate reveal that the true nemesis of Dr Who is the villain Dr Whom.
And both are eternally chased by the Grammar Police
Nope, the real villain is going to be Professor Thesaurus.
My guess is that the emergence of the Goblins after the Toymaker story wasn't a coincidence. The Doctor accidentally allowed the Toymaker into our dimension and the whole of reality is going to be suffering the results for a while yet - realising it and setting it right (see also Mavity) might well be Ncuti's character arc.
I think that when doctor who ends (in like 1092 years) they should TRY to reveal the doctors name, but hit us with the "rose tyler, i-"
in 1092 (and a half) years, David Tennant's 17th clone is playing the metacrisis Doctor in the second reboot of the Pete's World spin-off, and as the Doctor is about to be wed, he says "Rose Tyler, my name is-" then the credits roll followed by a preview of the next season that never gets released because the remaining five fans don't want to know the Doctor's name. Nobody reboots the franchise afterwards because nobody knows what to do with the Doctor's name being known, and they'd rather reboot the more popular rip-off "Professor Huh?" anyway
Ha ha ha ha ha
@@9nikolai Inspector Spacetime
the question is not how old we are, it's WHEN old we are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please not Rose Tyler.
@@9nikolai I have sometimes thought "Professor" would be better than "Doctor," but it's too late now. Although Capaldi's Doctor was a professor for seventy-something years or whatever.
Heaven Sent reminds me of the film The Prestige, except with a murder monster, and an impossible tower.
And no rivalry between two conjurors, and no Nikolai Tesla.
There's another example of psychic powers in Planet of the Dead, Carmen the passenger on the bus hears the voices before going through the wormhole - and at the end of the episode, she gives the first speech telling us the Doctor's song is coming to an end.
The Doctor Who universe would be one hell of a timeline when you take everything in account.
Less a time line, more a ball of wibbly-wobbly, timy-wimey stuff!
tbf doctor who in event order is fun. event order as in seeing the events not from each doctor but instead when said event would happen.
The Doctor didn't die in 'Heaven Sent'. He was trapped inside a Confession Dial, which held a pocket virtual reality in which the Doctor was subjected to a programmed loop. Imagine being transported into a video game in which you've an infinite number of resets back to the beginning, but each reset allows you to alter the ending little by little until you get the outcome you want. That's the situation the Doctor was in within the confines of the episode. In 'Hell Bent', he says the Confession Dial was never meant as a "torture chamber for the living," implying that he was alive the whole time and never actually died.
Only problem with that is that every time he repowered the teleporter, the version of him that teleported in had no memory of the events his previous selves had experienced. Unless the confession dial is some sort of subconscious trick, in which case the versions of him that 'died' were just his mind coping with the Confession danger.
@@68CastImp That could simply be because the program itself blocked his memories. When one is trapped in a simulation, death is meaningless and memories can be erased or altered.
Exactly. And even if he did physically ‘die’ at the end of each loop, his original consciousness was transferred to the fresh body, because toward the end of every loop he remembers the whole process having happened before.
@@Jazzdumpling The confusion stems partly from the poor writing not making clear enough that the whole experience had been a simulation, and partly from viewers taking things too literally.
@@TheWilkReport I'm not sure if confusion is the right word. Yes sometimes things need to be spelled out, but he was literally trapped in something called "A Confessions Dial", and the General said they only put him there to see what he knew (ie confess) about the Hybrid.
I was sitting in my office with nothing to do, I thought about The Doctor and DING! Good of you to show up Ellie! Perfect timing!
The seventh doctor confirmed the name as part of a census in 'The Happiness Patrol'.
I’d like to think that Amy fixed the entropy issue with Big Bang 2.
Wasn’t the crash of the ship that killed Adric also responsible for life on Earth? No wonder we have the Fermi Paradox! If life existing on Earth is the result of two seperate alien incidents, that goes a long way to explaining why we don’t find life everywhere! 😂
And, finally, I like to think the Doctor’s real name is “The Doctor”. Just like “Batman” is Bruce Wayne’s real name. Our real name is what we call ourselves, both consciously, and unconsciously. Growing up, I had a friend who was called “Trish”. Her real name is now Samira, which is how she thinks of herself, and what her husband calls her, even though she was “Trish” when they were married.
As I remember (and forgive me if I'm wrong, it's been a while) the ship that Adric died on wiped out the dinosaurs, paving the way for mammals and the rise of humans.
Yes, I think maybe the Doctor's original name is the thing we'll never (I hope) know.
Big Bang 2 is the comment I came looking for. 😁👍
What if the first Doctor was a trans guy, and the reason we don't know his original name is because it's his deadname?
@@sheersternfeld1914 The Doctor is always moving across identities. Think of that how you will.
Don't forget, in 'World Enough & Time' Missy says "hello, I', traveler Dr. Who come to help you!" and Bill asks why she called him that. Missy replies "because his name is Doctor Who". When Bill asks the doctor if that's true he seems embarrassed and doesn't directly answer. When asked about it, Moffat later said, "of course that's his name! He even had WHO 1 on his car!"
Thank you Team WhoCulture. I always enjoy these kind of quirky “did you not realise before this?” type of video. As a total fanatic of the series since January 1970, I really enjoy getting to appreciate my favourite franchise from a new perspective. I’ve always been a “cup half full” kind of fan, although not blind to the faults others loudly decry, I really appreciate content like this which only adds to the positive view of the Doctors’ adventures. ❤
me too !! whilst criticism is sometimes necessary for improvement (and a little rant with a friend can be fun), i do like that this channel focuses a lot on the positive aspects too!
sometimes i find that channels can become so bogged down in the negative aspects that it no longer becomes enjoyable to watch? i think it’s because it can end up feeling like the person does not even like the show at all haha 😁😁
0:52 I give you props for that edit right there
4:47 Honestly you can't really talk about this without actually talking about the implications of teleportation technology and how it properly works in the Whoverse. And at that point it breaks down into the Ship of Theseus thought experiment.
Not only do you have to talk about how teleportation works, but also Timelord regeneration as well, since it seems to follow a similar concept of breaking down the body and reconstituting it. To quote the Doctor himself: "If I'm killed before regeneration, then I'm dead. Even then, even if I change, it feels like dying. Everything I am dies. Some new man goes sauntering away… and I'm dead."
Regen is always a weird and fascinating one for me. That's how the Doctor thinks ahead towards regeneration, and how he experiences it in the moment. However, following the act, he picks up straight off, full memories, imploring any remaining companions to accept his authenticity as the same person.
Of course, there's an "out of universe" element of regen from the lens of the outgoing vs incoming actor.
This is a universe where souls and multiple after lives kinonically exists.Yes, yes, it's the same guy teleporter.Regeneration whatever your soul is a physical thing that can be fucking stolen and shit
The Doctor will live on as a biodata.Ghost in the time lord matrix or father half lying in the city of the saved or his mind will go into null space Where he might have a chance to get trapped in the middle and become a ghost
It also retroactively cheapens the death of every companion. As soon as you accept that a teleportation clone is the same person and there's no moral quandary involved, and also there's no "soul" which must be instantly transferred from one body to another with no interruptions, then you have to logical reason not to save and retrieve people from backups if they happen to perish. Therefore, if any companion dies, it only happens because Doctor couldn't be bothered to save them.
It also ruins the Doctor's Daughter plot - Doctor was pretty adamant that time lords can not be cloned because they are more than just a combination of atoms. He ended up being wrong, but there is no way he could have had this obviously wrong belief if that's how teleports work in the setting.
I'd like to also mention that in 'The Doctor's Daughter' we saw that The Doctor's daughter has regeneration - all the way back in David Tennant's era, and that the has left for her own adventures in space - and yet, it was never so much as mentioned again, that unbeknownst to The Doctor, there's another Time Lord running around that is his thought-to-be-dead 'daughter'.
I remember reading that the Doctor is the one person from Gallifrey, who is feared by the rest of Gallifrey. In ancient times, both Rassilon and Omega warned of the Doctor. He's also not as clever as he makes out, as he barely scraped through his PhD
"The name 'Theta Sigma'' has never been used again."
Not true. At the beginning of "The Pandorica Opens," we see River's inscription message for the Doctor on a cliff, and the first two letters are the Greek letters theta and sigma.
Armageddon factor part 5, happiness patrol
"The smarty-pants people of Logopolis" This is the type of writing that keeps me coming back!
The way I handle Kill the Moon is I consider portions canon, and others not canon, and then I don't worry about it. ("You can't do that! Either it's all canon, or none of it is!") It's a TV show; it's not real. Of course I can do that.
This was a lot of fun. At several points I found myself grinning like an idiot. Well done.
So sore throat better? I hope so. I said I'd keep asking, and it's just going to get weird. I can live with that.
In terms of Doctor Who canon, I consider the concept of canon meaningless due to the whole damn show being about time travel
There’s no offical canon anyway, meaning you get to pick and choose what’s canon and what’s not.
Any discrepancies can be explained away with how much Time Travelling The Doctor does (by his own admission, he’s the being that’s time travelled the most in the universe)/ The ToyMaker making a puzzle out of his history.
I mean, there’s now 3 different genesis of The Daleks (if you include that little RTD short with the un-handicapped Davros)
I love this idea, especially coupled with TTC, as it means every time someone plays pretend and is The Doctor, is actually a long lost Doctor or a Doctor from the future/alternative universe.
All those fan made Doctor Who shows on CZcams/social media, they’re all canon if you decide it to be.
Those B-movies made during the 90’s with Tom Baker and the actress who plays Romana 2 (which were heavily implied to be about The Doctor, but couldn’t use the characters names for copyright reasons, so they called him “The Traveller”) those are also canon.
The fact there’s no official canon and is up to the fan getting to choose what’s their Doctor Who and what’s not, deepens the fan base’s connection with Doctor Who in my opinion.
Like, what’s if we’re all The Doctor, but we just don’t remember, cause we’ve got our memories stored away, in a FobWatch???
U clearly don’t understand what canon means… u must think 911 wasn’t canon to human history and didn’t really happen because u don’t like it smh
@@MaouVallkurI'm fairly sure 911 wasn't a TV show.
@@michaeltortorice9876 it literally is lmao
Love how Capaldi's acting is praised two times. Best Doctor.
Love him!!
His name's Basil... Just ask Osgood.
@charleslord2433 - Rathbone or Fawlty? 😂
I thought it was Doctor Disco?🕺🏽
According to Missy, he really is Dr. Who.
@@DoctorLazerbeam2199Doctor who? What are you talking about? - Not Dr Foreman, apparently
You mean petronela
Oh boy, here we go.
{10} No, that was stabilized from the culmination of all the Logopolans' work. It became 'self-sufficient' and thus no longer dying, except in the usual respects of normal decay.
{9} This isn't news. It's mentioned several times, namely whenever K-9 is featured in an episode and somebody doesn't know why there is a 'tin dog'.
{8} In the words of a man called Clarkson, "Oh no! Anyway...".
{7} There hasn't really been anything to dispute that, so I don't see the problem.
{6} Well no, he's not a copy of the original. He's the original, teleported in over nine hundred billion times. He said so.
{5} I think that key was confiscated, so no they can't.
{4} With all the things that have happened to the Earth, this doesn't surprise me, but psychic power in Doctor Who isn't magic. It's a branch of science earmarked under 'evolved traits'.
{3} Yes, and? Nobody forgot this, or about the Silurians. The show just treats them as either done or a 'future me problem'.
{2} You're not even scratching the surface. Jagaroth ship, Racnoss ship, Cyberman ship, the Fendahl, all those cracks in time, all that interference via time travel - all of that has made the Earth and everything on it REALLY WEIRD!
{1} You also missed something else: Theta Sigma was the Doctor's nickname, but there was another different non-canon source - a choose your own adventure book - which features Omega taking over the Doctor's body for his own ends. The book posits that the reason this was able to occur was perhaps due to them being related, as in the solar engineer being a distant ancestor of his. Not proven, but these are Greek letter names, and this was not too dissimilar to the plot of The Arc of Infinity.
There was also Adric's spaceship that fits the pre-human explosion category
Agreed - but that just the Chicxulub impact that killed the dinosaurs. Not the start of life itself.
And, no Chicxulub is not a Doctor Who reference. It is the name of the village in Mexico that sits in the center of the crater.
As the current 'writers' not just ignore Who lore, they go out of their way to break it, what we know about Who is subject to change at any point down to whatever whim the 'writers' happen to have at the time.
You missed the opportunity to use a clip from An Unearthly Child. When Ian first meets Susan's grandfather, he says, 'Doctor Foreman.' The Doctor replies, 'Doctor who?'
The First Doctor said "Yes, exactly" after being asked that again in a different episode.
thought that episode was banned
Peter Cushing introduced himself
'hello I'm Doctor Who'
William Hartnell Original is my head Canon.
One thing most people overlook... BBC made it canon, right after the episode aired, that when David Tennant regenerated into David Tennant after being shot by the dalek, that was an official regeneration. Which officially made him both the eleventh and twelfth Doctors, respectively. Matt Smith was Doctor thirteen, which was the whole point of him constantly seeing the number 13, and being told he would die soon, and being imprisoned and growing old on Christmas, as it was a life sentence... Once he died, that was supposed to be it... No more regenerations. Except the Time Lords lent him the power to keep regenerating, making Peter Capaldi the Fourteenth Doctor.
Aw crap, I didnt know that it was official! Now I gotta renumber them in my head!
Isn't the Canon now that the doctor is the original time lord and doesn't have a regeneration cap and everyone else was biologically given a cap?
Was the season 12 finale I think
@@oopomopoo I mean in the current itineration. I think after the pre-Hartnell agency female Doctor, they erased their memories and locked them into a standard twelve regeneration Time Lord cycle, like with any other Time Lord.
Whether or not Smith would have regenerated after he died of old age without the help of the other Time lords is unknown... It is possible this was locked off as a part of his sentence, since the ones who sentenced him knew they could. It is also possible that their helping him didn't just give him a new set of regenerations, but, rather, removed, or broke, the lock that had been placed on their own infinite regeneration abilities as a part of their twelve regeneration life sentence.
This is just a personal theory.
@@allyndeimos I looked it up after the episode aired, and saw BBC confirmed it in some newspaper article, or, possibly web article... long time ago, not certain anymore... they had over there, likely from all the fans asking if it happened or not. Whether they retconned this decision, or not, since, I'm holding to the original statement made, as this makes Smith's run make far more sense.
@@LlorDrei
I'm more inclined to believe that the fugitive Doctor's memery was scrubbed and the reprogramming after regeneration made them belive that they were the first incarnation and only had 12 regenerations, but because the Doctor is the Timeless Child, really has an infinite amount of them.
The explosion of the Dalek fleet in "The Time of the Doctor" most likley caused by the infusion of regeneration energey, suplied by an ignorant Timelord Council, who didn't know the big secret and it "bleeding off" as the explosion, rather than being absorbed by the Doctor
UNIT is absolutely getting its own TV show in the intermediate future. Nothing suddenly gets such a boost like this.
The doctor will never have an actual name. If a writer chooses a name, the next writer will just retcon that one for another and so on and so forth.
The theory that the "original" doctor is dead only works if you apply a totally linear way of thinking but being that the doctor is a time traveler and the nature of time travel itself that makes it possible for every version of the doctor we have seen to in fact be the "original" doctor just a doctor from a different time and if the old one dies and is replaced just because of a teleport the same thing could be said for any number of characters through out the entire show since they use a teleport almost every other episode it seems
10:10 wait... Douglas Adams!? Like, Hitchhiker's Guide Douglas Adams? That's awesome!
He was the script editor on the show for that season. He rewrote the original script to the point that that person didn't want they're name attached to it, and so a pseudonym is used in the credits. You can see Douglas's work in other scripts as well (off the top of my head: The Pirate Planet, Creature from the Pit, and Shada--which was derailed by a labor strike).
@@B__C__ Davies planned on having him write episodes for the revival too. Unfortunately, he died before any could happen though.
The first Dirk Gently uses the spaceship idea, as well as being based on Adams' script for Shada.
About that teleport in heaven scent episode it works using temporal synchronicity and dimension compression
I think when the doctor is in the Confession Dial his mind is in the whole place, its time lord tec like the watch that makes him human, its his mental energy inside it, thats why death following him and him coming back is the perfect torture for him because death is what was on his mind when he entered it. like how he comes back but the people he loves cant is the worced thing for him to face. and i think he remembers the other times at the wall cause when hes imagining being in the tardis he says" but i can remember clara, you dont understand i rememeber it all everytime and you'll still be gone" and that would make sense cause it wouldnt be a good way to get information out of him if he couldnt remember each time, like the wall is like he remembers and they're like tell us and you get to go home or dont tell us and you have to do it all again. i think in doctor who the mind is different from the body like the master put his mind in a ring once i think and the toymaker put him in a tooth. normal teleport might kill him though i guess unless they send the mind energy like wifi to the new body when they send the info for the new body over but the flesh ganger episodes it shows why it doesnt matter anyway because they're both real people. just a guess, I might be wrong ,thats what I thought when I watched it.
We don't talk about "Kill The Moon".
One thing that's never been addressed is the effect the Osirons building pyramids on Mars would have had on the Ice Warriors. After all they inspired the whole of Egyption civilisation so was Martian society similarly influenced?
@matriculus2 - Something, perhaps, that RTD and Moffat can explore? I'd love to see a show with Sutekh in it!
The Ice Warriors are contemporary to the Silurians. Which means, we are talking millions of years difference.
In the expanded media it is explained that the Osirans sort of controlled early martian civilisation as well as later Egyptian civilisation they used the Ice Warriors to build things on Mars and had a big influence on their culture
Doctor Who as a series, and I’ve been following it since the 70’s, is dead to me.
The fact that he's different atoms doesn't mean much. You aren't made out of any of the stuff you were bade out of when you're born. All the atoms cycle.
Nothing about all humans subconciously murdering the silence and then forgetting about it every time they look away? That has to be the most tramautizing thing noone remembers.
You forgot the cybermen who crashed a spaceship onto earth and killing Adric as well as the dinosaurs, to make place for the mammals evolving into humans.
And the (nick)name of the Doctor (known to River Song) was placed on a cliff-side on some prehistoric world along some coordinates and the greatings "hello sweety" for 11th
Re: #1 - In the episode The War Machines, the computer Wotan said "Doctor Who is required".
A couple of honorable mentions.
Amy lost her parents twice.
Every statue including the Empire State building is a weeping angel. Which if all images of a weeping angel are an angel then by mass production we've accidentally made billions of weeping angels.
That brings to mind, does it matter the size of the statue? The look of the statue? If every single statue is a weeping angel, are lawn gnomes weeping angels? Are figurines? Are toys? Amiibo figures are technically small statues. Are they tiny weeping angels? What constitutes a statue in this definition?
Amelia and Amy lived in two separate whoniversis. (remembering each others lives due to the radiation leak from the crack in thier walls)
=series 5 takes place within two spearate whoniversis and the show jumps inbetween them everytime something wdding related is on screen, (twice in Eleventh hour) and this goes for Donna Nobles when she was seen as a bride in Doomsday-End of time (=series 3 & 4 took place within the new WHoniverse.... as "Doomsday" = same as "Big Bang" which happend outisde the TARDIS as the call with Rose got cut off.... (due to there no longer being a classic whoniverse) and then the new Whoniverse was formed outside around the TARDIS = Donna was "drawn" to the TARDIS as it was the TARDIS first time in the new WHoniverse (our Doctor have been there once before;the 6th Doctor)
Not the Empire State Building - the Statue of Liberty
Strictly speaking the original doctor being dead thing isn't actually true. His deaths take place inside a timelord construct intended to house his consciousness, which is also how (as is explicitly stated) he remembers his past cycles despite the teleporter reproducing him "as I was when I first got here". The confession dial isn't part of the physical universe per se, it's more like a micro-version of the matrix on Gallifrey. Something similar is used in Death in Heaven as well. The technology is used more broadly than just in that one system on Gallifrey.
In terms of humans with psychic abilities, you forgot about Claire in Flux
I have to disagree with the teleporting one. The thing is, the confession dial is a self-contained pocket universe. When you consider that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, and matter is just energy slowed down enough to manifest physically, the energy his body is providing for the teleport means it basically is recreating himself from himself, like a different type of regeneration.
I feel that the teleporter in the confession dial can be a good way to explain the Valeyard. Since the dial was made by Timelords and they are obviously time travelers maybe one of them gotten ahold of the broken one and was able to power up the teleporter to work. However, since the dial was damaged or the Timelords didn't want another Doctor running around with an unlimited amount of regeneration, they gave it enough power to regenerate once to Michael Jayston. Perhaps, this clone doctor was genetically modified to have the darker instincts more dominant. This works with the 12th Doctor, considering that he was originally written as a Doctor with a mean streak. Maybe the Valeyard was created by the high council with the intention to have someone who thinks like the Doctor, but without the Doctor's rebellious nature. Maybe the Valeyard got his start in Division.
Ooh I like your ideas. The concept of the division in itself is creepy and dark for the Doctor. The fact that he was working for them without having memory of it is terrifying probably in his perspective. Valeyard being in the division or part lead of it would make sense.
I would like to add some forgotten TARDIS facts: the TARDIS was designed to be piloted by a team. This is the real reason why there are always turbulences when just the doctor controls it. Newer writers don't know this and there are many scenes where the doctor just pushes one button and the TARDIS works smooth.
The sounds of the TARDIS which we are so familiar about are actually because the doctor travels with handbrake activated.
Nothing can materialize in the TARDIS and nothing can brute force open the TARDIS, which again many writers keep forgetting.
The doctor's name before being called the Doctor wasn't their real name anyway, only what Tecteun gave to the child she found.
Unless there's a note no-one mentioned, that's as real name as it's gonna get...
That's kind of how children's names work...
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I still think that the "timeless child" is the Master due to the fact that he seems to continuously, both in Classic & New Who, manages to escape permanent death at the thirteenth regeneration. To me, it fits better than the Doctor, especially since 11 was "given" another set of 12 regenerations. Why do that if the Doctor has infinite amount of regenerations? Furthermore, it would make the Master more sinister if he *was* the "timeless" child. Just my take on things.
The timeless child as depicted was a young child but wasn't a baby. It would have had a name and would have known what that name was and would have retained that knowledge through all its regenerations up until the Time lords wiped its memory. Hence even if initially it was unable to tell Tecteun its name because it didn't know Tecteun's language it would have been able to tell her later. If it then kept that name then it would have been safer for the Time Lords after wiping the knowledge about the Timeless child to have kept using that same name since otherwise someone might slip up fairly easily by mistakenly using that old name.
10:18 let’s not forget that _the universe_ owes its existence to an exploding spaceship. The starship that was later used to treat Lazars disease in “Terminus” was a timeship that had previously exploded while in the time vortex, and while it survived the explosion (damaged, but not destroyed), that explosion was the Big Bang that started the universe.
The Doctor Who universe is surprisingly dependent on exploding spaceships. 🤷♀️ 😁
Plus without the space ship Crash in Earthshock that killed Adric The Dinosours would have never went extinct
There is an entire warehouse full of K-9s in the TARDIS.
The Zygon treaty was explained. It wasn't the first time a group of Zygons attempted what they did. The Doctor basically returns every once in a while to ensure the treaty is renewed whenever the Zygons act up. The Zygons try to take over, they go to the Black Archives, and the Doctor gives his speech after which two idiots who recently lost their memories hash it out. The episodes are implied to have not been the first time, because The Doctor has it set up too well for it to be the first time. We just never get to visit again, because the matter has been resolved.
It might be an egg but that doesn't make it not a moon.
Doctor who in the confession dial might not have physically happened. It might have simply been a simulation with his mind while his body is timy-wimy temporal paused. Much like some of the movies around a 'prison' being simulated in someone's mind where 1 minute on the outside is 100 years on the inside, the body is unaffected.
Stephen Moffat's finest hour as a writer may be notable, but sadly we've never gotten a moderately competent moment from him as a showrunner.
The biggest problem with "Heaven Sent" isn't that he's creating a copy of himself... it's that, in every one of those loops (several million of them), the Doctor managed to somehow drag himself back to the console and activate it before expiring. Why they added that detail instead of just having him automagically teleport in each time is beyond me.
Extra points for the Blue Mountain State footage.
Honestly everything since heaven sent being 1 long continuous confession dial torture scene would be about the only way most of chibnal era makes any sense and would fix the fever dream of the weird bill pots season
The moon rings like a bell when hit by objects from space. Scientists discovered this phenomenon by measuring moonquakes. They deliberately crashed the Apollo lander to study the effects of the deliberate impact. After the astronauts were safely back in the command model. So when it hit the instruments registered it. It registered a gain a short time later, and this repeated for a while. So it could be an egg.
@indycar1007 - "eggs" don't "ring" when hit with an object. As a person raising chickens, if you hit an egg with an object, it will crack. More likely, it's just the 3% of iron in the moon that is "ringing".
It’s an alien ship that escaped The Doctor’s universe into ours.
Or it’s the Doctor Moon?
It didn't really ring like a bell, that's a bit of an exaggeration. Moonquakes behave differently to Earthquakes due to the different makeup of the Moon's crust and surface. From all experimentation, the Moon is pretty much as you'd expect it--crust, mantle, core.
I think it's amazing enough without it being hollow or an egg!
@@kalinystazvoruna8702yes, but that's because eggs tend to be very small compared to any object that you hit them with. Say an ant fell on an egg, would the egg crack?
@@sheersternfeld1914 If the ant had a big enough hammer! 🤣 Actually, you're correct about that.
The Doctor is also a King Dowager. Married Liz 1. No assertion that they ever divorced. I could say more, but I think Rose beat me to it on some ship that had broken down way in the future.
Actually the first 3 doctors are dead. RIP William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton and John Pertwee. The actors anyway. Yeah - the doctor did die rather a lot in the Confession Dial.
Four if you count John Hurt.
@@MinimalistTheatre333 Of course - I forgot about him. He was brilliant.
6, if you include Richard Hurndall (portrayed The 1st Doctor in “The Five Doctors”) & Peter Crushing (played the human Dr. Who, who invented TARDIS, from “The Daleks” movies.)
Well, one got resurrected, didn't he? And twice, first in "the five doctors" and then in "twice upon a time" 🙂
@ those were not resurrections. They are part of the timeline and may or may not remember (in canon) the events. For example in “The Day of The Doctor” 11 said “Oh I remember this” when the portal opened up and he threw in his fez. The most part of it they don’t remember - I don’t remember the reason why though- I would need to rewatch it.
Theta sigma is more like a rank than a true name. The doctor is the timeless child and his original name is on the other side of that portal he was found in front of.
apparently the doctor and master went back and changed their original names to doctor and master
Personally I'm taking the Daleks at their word and guessing the Doctor's real name translates to "Oncoming Storm" (or "Storm Oncoming" depending on which naming convention you go with),
His name would be in the Time Lord language so his name would mean that in English. Don't think we've heard the Time Lord language (since the TARDIS translates everything). Then again, translations aren't always 1:1. Melody Pond retranslated becomes River Song.
@@Paulafan5it's not because of Tardis's translation, but because in the language of the people of the gamma forest (or whatever it is) "the only water in the forest is river"; and because the soldier from the gamma forest (whatever her name was) embroidered river's first name and surname on each side of the prayer leaf, word order got reversed. This is explained in "when a good man goes to war"
Also number 1 rule the Doctor lies. I don’t think that cradle ever had rivers name on it. In fact it could’ve potentially been a family cradle so The Doctors name would’ve been on there but Prehaps his own children’s names, as he confirmed to be a father at one point. So it could’ve been memory of that family on Gallifrey.
@@shannonsmith924 did he say it had "river's" name on it, though? It may or may not have the doctor's name on it, because it's gallifreyan and the Tardis doesn't translate, but I have to see the episode again, I haven't watched it for over a year now 🙄 as far as I remember, it was river who said it was her name on the cradle, and obviously rule 1 applies to her as well 😁
@@shannonsmith924I thought the cradle did have the Doctors name on it. It was his cradle from childhood. River’s name was on the prayer leaf.
Granted, I’ve been watching for far too long and have forgotten more than I remember.
Even if none of the showrunners have officially commented on it, I feel like the whole community is on board with Kill the Moon being non-canon.
It is canon for one specific reason; Hidden in plain sight our Earth was stolen (this you part you know) what you dont know /realise is that our Earth was "returned" to the wrong whoniverse in end of episode Journeys end.
= Our classic whoniverse/era Earth was taken over into the new (Doomsday/Big Bang) Whoniverse where our mankind (from the classic Whoniverse) will get exterminated in a massive Dalek invasion and the Daleks conqours our Earth and turn it into new Skaro.
(I can show you if you are interessted how we know this above with inshow sources)
As mankind is about to get exterminated our (now former) Doctor have this plan to save us all using his knowledge of how the timeline (for the new WHoniverse) have changed since it had its creation;
Using this knowledge; he/she have been setting up a hidden in plain sight plan to litterly save us all as we die. (to heaven and hell).
This following bit i skip a ton of stuff like how our former Doctor became Romes emperor in 97AD then Merlin etc etc Ashildurs grandfather etc etc living thru history from atleast 4BCE where our now former Doctor gave birth to a child that had to die with a crown of thorns on HER head (this whoniverse around) in southwestern England in around 33AD. (this is most likly the Timeless child for this whoniverse) (the timeless child for the classic WHoniverse was a certain jewish child that went somewhere unknown for "20 years" while growing up)
("John Smith" is actually a variant of Joseph) = our young (1st) Doctor was the Timeless childs stepdad and our Doctor´s original wife was the mother to that child; (This is super sneakily in the show as a female Rassilon once was the original wife of our Doctor; skipping lots of inshow sources for this)))
Just know it will happen to our Doctor in the new WHoniverse while married to his 3rd wife (the new Whoniverse Doctor)
I totally get why you most likly do not get the above its super cleverly hidden in plain sight;
What is not super hidden and possible to see without deep knowledge of the timeline) is the following.
Living thur history (without a working timemachine since atleast 4BCE) (The last TARDIS have died/ascended) (yes thats also in the show)
Our former Doctor in 1948 as the UN got created in New York got elected mankinds president in times of need. (This is where the Williams reuninon will take place)
After that our former DOctor began building a replacement timemachine. (You have seen it thruout the show several times)
And as the Master needed control all of mankind (End of time) he built a harddrive that was able to store our dormant (but still living minds) (Same was seen in Bells of St John; there a another harddrive was used but more on that perhaps later; it involves the dead TARDIS harddrive))
Just for now realise there was a "blank save" made of everyone where everyones minds where returned thier bodies of the "Master-race" as it "died" when everyones souls was returned to thier bodies (including you and me)
This harddrive was implimented into the incomplete new replacement timemachine.
You saw the unfinished controlroom to this new timemachine in the 50th special.
The time moves on toward 5145AD when the first wave of the massive Dalek invasion iss about to take place (rest of time will be attacked shortly after)
and the National art museum (the incomplete replacement timemachine) is sent out into space with Starship UK.
Where it becomes the library.
And with River Songs mind is completed to become a fully functional timemachine ("RIVERS" in lack of a proper name))
There are a few things worth mentioning here before moving on:
Clara when she died (kiled by the Raven) had her "soul" saved to the harddrive. ("the black smoke")
And
Using one of the blank "Master race" saves (most likly the one of herself) she was uploaded into the library as CAL.....(which is to become the 1st Doctor for this new Whoniverse) (Clara unknowingly acepted to become the new WHoniverse Doctor on Akhaten; i can show you how if you want later)
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the completed "RIVERS" we have seen thruout the show under several names...amongst the "Glass people ship" & Church of the papal mainframe Also know to us as "heaven and hell" with thier running simulation that stores everyones souls...(this includes Missy and that robot man PC killed) MIssy is a special case thou that i wont go into right here just know shes an ascended being (the new WHoniverse Black guardian over time)
the original RIVERS then becomes on Trenzalore the "MAtrix" for the new rulers over time......us..... Where the 1st save acts as basestations for the second set of saves the original RIVERS have made of everyone thruout history....
All this (above) also happend to those that became the Timelords (but in the classic WHoniverse) having thier Earth be stolen from a previous whoniverse and it ending up in the classic whoniverse where some tincans killed them all and Rassilion saved them all by building the very first TARDIS ....
=Rose Marion Tyler = Romanalunda
=Her brother = our Doctor
=The Metacrysis = The Valeyard
=The Master = the child of the the Bad wolf girl and the man born out of war and chaos...
+ ALOT MORE
2:02 "The Australian made K9 show that we never ever ever ever talk about." If I hear that show brought up by anyone, I'm grabbing a torch and pitchfork
I hear about it all the time on these types of videos and in reactions to "School Reunion."
Yeah I actually liked it as a kid it feels cheaper now though but it did it's job
Finding out for the first time that the moon has always been a giant egg in the Doctor Who universe is kinda like finding out your own cells are and always have been descended from archaea rather than bacteria, in the real universe :)
I don't really see Heaven Sent as killing the Doctor, so much as sorta rewinding his mind's personal timeline back to a specific point as the old body dies. That's a quibble -- but I definitely think that because it relies so much on vaguely-explained time lord technology, there are many ways to interpret that story, and having each version of the Doctor suffer a permanent death is only one of them.
I am not sure the universe has always been dying applies anymore, we've had at least one universal reboot since thanks to the whole Pandorica incident.
Technically David tenant after jodie witigar was the 16th doctor as matt Smith explains in a Christmas episode
I hate when people say that the Doctor is 4 billion years old because of the time he spent trapped in the confession dial... no he isn't. He is however old he was when he first arrived, plus the span of the last version that managed to escape. And it always annoys me that anybody who teleports is dead, so the original Doctor is long gone xD
Edit: I commented this before all this was mentioned in the vid lol
He is though, He went in, had 4billion years worth of misery and came out. He remembered everything, one continual experiance. As an aside, i dont know how old you are but given a good number of decades under your belt you will have none of the atoms/matter you started with (a lot less really, but thats just human aging). But you have a continual consciousnes all that time. We are all Triggers Broom, but the episode just does it in one go.
I may have this wrong, but I always thought the K9 the Doctor left for Sarah Jane at the end of SCHOOL REUNION was just the version we saw in that episode, but refurbished/repaired. The more advanced K9 (the one that flies) could have been ANY of the ones listed in the video, but is most likely to be the one that left with Leela. Why? Because he's on Gallifrey and even if he's mostly with the Shebogans he's the one most likely to be upgraded and travel through time.
The Doctor has messed with the Web of Time so much, that they've created whole other realities. In some the Moon is an egg, in others a wandering planetoid that scared the Silurians into hibernation. Possibly the Doctor is the singular entity that is responsible for creating the whole of the multiverse in the first place!
To be fair, a giant space bat flying up to your planet would probably be a *great* reason to be scared into hibernation, even if all it wanted to do was lay an egg in orbit nearby. ;-)
For point 6, I respectfully say that time travel is being ignored. I say this because it's not a copy. It is a repeat being a repeat. It is the actual Doctor that repeats that teleportation. From that more specific moment in time that is what is happening, so it's not a copy. It is a repeating of that action and because of the continuation that does occur in the space where he's at that body does disintegrate, the Doctor that arrives is repeating. It's a repeat, so it's exactly that Doctor arriving, it's that same Doctor arriving.
The Moon is an Egg is one of those Doctor Who stories that would’ve been a lot better to set on an alien world. There are several that make no damn sense but if it wasn’t Earth, you’d say it was fair enough for sci-fi.
It was an alien world - when Jack Williamson did it decades before Doctor Who was even thought of.
Oh yeah because the planet with the green goo that can turn you into a wolf monster and a group of spider babies at its core is so normal
So, Peter Capaldi is actually the last Doctor? OK, cool. Thanks for clearing that up.
There was also the exploding spaceship that killed off the dinosaurs making way for the humans setting in on Earth in the story Earthshock. The original explosion created just life in general for planet Earth in City of Death.
Actually, _The Big Bang_ makes a subtle reference to Theta Sigma as well, in River carving her message in the Diamond Mountain.
12:21 isn't that just the avengers stark industries tower with a unit logo slapped on the side?
Yes, and it’s incredible.
Are you forgetting that he was inside the confession Dial? Heaven Sent happened in his mind, so he never really died. If he had died, the Confession Dial would of opened for Missy. The device itself is so the Time Lords can upload Time Lord minds to the Matrix.
Ellie really needs to be on Doctor Who as a one off companion.
I personally have never gotten past the fact that the doctor spent 4 1/2 billion years punching for a wall, dying billions more times and as he says in the episode remembering it everytime. Honestly really makes sense why he is unhinged in Hell Bent… then never mentioned again.
And hate to be nit picky but if Moffett said that he usually spent a month in each cycle, and died times that by twelve then times that by 4.5 billion and its alot more then a few million. More like the continuing adventures of Doctor copy 68 billion!
God...this show used to be amazing.
Another issue is that also might explain why some of the Doctor's reaction to things are different than ours is sensory. In previous episodes we have seen examples of how The Doctor's eyes can perceive more colors (and perhaps a wider spectrum). Another example is when he comments on how the clone version of Martha smells. It is just an example of how The Doctor's experiences of the world is different from ours. In a way, his reality only intersects with out own.
I like it when Ecclestone tells Rose he can feel the planet moving through space. Thats such a great moment of alien-ness.