One of the Worst Takes on "Godzilla" Ever
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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2024
- On January 29, 2024, a CZcams channel called Doktor Skipper uploaded a video titled “Godzilla Doesn't Work In America…” and received a ton of backlash for it on Twitter. Being in the general circle of kaiju Twitter, I figured I would watch it with an open mind and it pains me to say this but this is a poorly made video with terrible pacing and little to no research actually being put in.
Link to Doktor Skipper's video: • Godzilla Doesn't Work ...
I don’t want anyone watching this to go and harass Doktor Skipper. I’m not even mad at the guy. I just want him to do more research and to have a better grasp of what he’s talking about. And if you’re watching this Dok, I just want you to know that I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed...
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''Godzilla is public domain in the US''
Meanwhile in Austin Powers:
-''Run, It's godzilla!''
-''It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright laws - it's not.''
But still we should run like it is Godzilla!!!!!!
Though it’s not.
Aahhhhhhhhhh!!!
lol 😹
Yeah Id say most Godzilla fans know how stingy and protective Toho is of Godzilla to a fault. Thats why until Godzilla 2014 they took forever to allow Hollywood to make another film, why there's barely any Godzilla video games, how each Godzilla monster has a price tag if developers want to include them, and how quick Toho is to flag down CZcams videos sometimes that talk about Godzilla movies and include scenes
@bensadfleck9972
See that one scene proves homeboy wrong. I don't know where he got the idea that Godzilla in America is in the public domain.
@@Spongebrain97 hell it's the reason we dont see other toho kaijus besides in KOTM
@@Spongebrain97 well it’s less a toho thing and more of the Japanese company mindset being “nah u do what we want or no deal”
The weirdest part of the video to me is when he says the mutos were a representation of Japan and that Godzilla is a representation of the US. Not ONCE in the movie are the mutos connected to Japan and it’s just kinda weird how he kept mentioning it
He tells people to do research yet he doesn't even do any research of his own either. How hypocritical.
@@iaminsideyourwalls2021The MUTOs were arguably the most un-political and un-allegorical monster in the past decade, like what is bro even saying?
And he wanted to put race on this then he should have known that the male muto was from the Philippines and nested in Japan and the female was found in Las Vegas so he is dumb
Not to mention the MUTOs were an invasive species. If they got the chance to reproduce they'd be flooding whole swathes of the world with their offspring.
@@hansalanson3497 he wanted to sound deep and insightful
and like every other smug person who wants to come off as smarter than everyone else, he made himself look like an ass
When he says that people don't know Godzilla originated in Japan, I knew he had no idea what he was talking about.
Thats probably more dumber than believing the earth is flat
@@kingkoopa64 right lol
@MellowMutant fr godzilla is literally one of japan culture icons and saying that no one knows he from Japan is beyond stupid
@@kingkoopa64 EXACTLY and even if they had never seen a Japanese Godzilla movie, they would've at least come across the EXTREMELY popular phrase "Gojira" everyone knows what phrase it's literally a piece of pop culture
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t the first American Godzilla movie the 1998 one? Does he think that’s what people know Godzilla from? 😭😭
Ever since Minus One came out these fake ass Godzilla fans been bashing my boy MV Godzilla in the head because they watched a Japanese Godzilla movie for the first time.
lmao
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Bu-bu-buu-but... JaPAN BETTer😡😡😡😡
@@davidoblast8291hey buddy most of the japanese Godzilla movies were made for Japan.
It’s the equivalent to weebs saying sub>dub
Mf says that 98% of the movies suck ass when he only watched probably 3 of them
GMK, the Kiryu duology, heck KOTM even grew to be a dearly missed title among fans over the years despite the immediate success of the sequential GvK. The post-54 Showa era made some unforgettable moments and creatures.
The ending of Godzilla Vs. Mothra still makes me cry.
@@hansalanson3497 nah very memorable moments and creatures that changed the franchise
im a showa fan because of how stupid it is i can understand if you say it has bad movie but the dropkick, the dance, gigan, ghidorah, megalon, jet jaguar, minilla all those characters were influential to the franchise
@@otakunthevegan4206 I recently started watching the originals, and man that ending really touched me. Great writing
Well if were being honest ALOT of the Showa era is kinda garbage made for children, hence the dancing, flying with his breath the kenny compilation movies etc. The Showa era is easily the worst era. King Kong v Godzilla is also garbage especially IF your watching the US/Univerdal cut of the movie which was especially made to be "goofier" than the Japanese cut
He said that he doesn't even like Godzilla.
Okay, then, WHY DID YOU EVEN MAKE A VIDEO ACTING LIKE YOU HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT GODZILLA IN THE FIRST PLACE!?
yeah it felt like content just for contents sake
Seriously this is the equivalent of when Roland emmerich made a Godzilla film even though he said he didn't like Godzilla
Bingo you hit the nail on the head.
He literally hate it. Not just don't like it or not a big fan of it,straight up hate it.
He’s just trying to get Minus One views.
Honestly, I'm just really tired of this narrative that's popped up since Minus One that Godzilla absolutely has to be the villain or he doesn't work.
Godzilla become even more popular and lovable when Japan start godzilla vs "something" movies. They knew what they will do with G-man
@@ediakin4993
Godzilla vs taxes
I agree. I like that Godzilla's character is versatile and can be a villain, anti hero, hero etc depending on the vision of the director and the theme of the movie
@@Man_Aslume Godzilla solos by tax evasion + he gets paid a ton so it ain't a big deal anyways
@@ediakin4993Godzilla is literally so loved in Japan that it wouldn't surprise me if one day they just name him Emperor.
I love how the Godzilla fandom all saw that rat spread misinformation and shot his shit down asap
A shame other fandoms aren’t as quick to cap the poison of misinformation from people like him.
I thought it was going to just get a pass I watched that essay and felt dummer 😂 didn’t realize he opened a can of bullshit we all would call out immediately 😭😭s/o to the real ones.
@@ice8erg He was an associate of John Swan, a commentary CZcamsr called out as a lying snake.
normally his videos are pretty cool, but i agree here, this video is trash with clearly no thought put into it
He loves spreading misinformation from what I learned. He went on a slander campaign against John Swan trying to paint John as a pedo without any proof and apparently went as far as to send John a McDonald's application saying he was going to destroy his career.
Now even I know that Godzilla is not in public domain. Toho’s gonna be holding onto him for years from now.
More like an eternity since the public domain only applies to America.
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I believe the original 1954 movie goes into public domain in the US in 2049 which is crazy
@@Robloozway too long from now 😭
@@Roblooz It's usually either 70 (if the author passes away, like a book) then 120 or 95 years after publication if it was "for work." Usually it's 95 bc that comes first lmao
Dr skipper saying Godzilla is public domain is the most foolish thing I've ever heard monster Island buddies made an entire video on Godzilla lawsuits
If Godzilla was public domain, there would be like hundreds of crappy horror films about him.
theres also a short by wikizilla that talks about a godzilla parody that toho took to court since they were under the assumption godzilla was public domain heres the vid czcams.com/users/shortspeAp1-KLkBg?si=TYVQnN5W2D9njI1c
@@RedOctober375And also a dozen or so really high quality fan films.
(We’re better than Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey…at least I keep telling myself that)
@@RedOctober375 and then just ONE singular good one buried in the pile of shit and godawful ones
"I can't believe they stole godzilla!!! It's in public domain!"
Meanwhile Legendary literally asking & getting permission from Toho in 2009 to take on an IMAX film from 2004: 👁👄👁
Always fact check yourself that's all i say to people like that
Exactly. Literally everything Legendary does with the entire Godzilla franchise is monitored and green lit by Toho
Fun fact, part of Toho's agreement with legendary actually prevents Godzilla from dying. the only way American Godzilla is allowed to die is if he has an heir.
Especially when Toho charged 1 million per monster. So you might the entire US military budget and beyond to bring in every single Toho monster into the Monsterverse
@@user-mb6ne3md6kthose are one out of many terms Toho gave to the table. And you wonder why 1998 was consider an abomination?
"america made godzilla into a hero" wasn't the first american made godzilla movie the 1998 one where he was an ACTIVE force of destruction???
Yep, and one of the few that remained faithful to the original's ending where the giant lizard bites the dust.
Not to mention how all but like 4 Godzilla movies portray Godzilla in a heroic role
I don't really understand the hate for Godzilla 1998. I think there are only 2 reasons for why people hate Godzilla 1998:
1. Godzilla's design
2. The movie is probably just bad
Correction: there was no American Godzilla movie made in 1998
@@RegiArt7 yeah there was only that cheap knock off called "Zilla". His son was cool tho :D
“I’m not mad, just disappointed” were the words that I would hear before being screamed at by my parents
Reminds me of when my mom would wait until we got home before she smacked the crap out of me. That entire video was like if I made a poor take on Lord of the Rings even tho I am not even a Lord of the Rings fan or Fantasy fan in general, pure rage bait, nothing more, people need to stay in their lane. At least Roger Ebert (Bless him) had the decency to actually watch the movies he hated.
@@otakunthevegan4206 ah so the whole "parents wait until you get home to beat you're ass" happend to you too
I'm 53, I grew up with Godzilla but those words still scare me when I hear it from my parents. LOL
They sound mad…
So… it's a bluff of a much worse feeling than mad or disappointment. It's pure rage!
Bro that guy is getting destroyed by every corner of the internet he's never gonna look at godzilla the same way 💀
he never did from the beginning, lol
I guess this is the place where I stop being a Doktor Skipper fan.
Unsubbing. 😔
Good, and he better not fucking touch him either
@@andrijajankovic3865why were you ever?
@@eldonte2013 Bcoz I watched his video about Pixar's downfall. That's how I learned about him.
This reminds me of a tweet shortly after Minus One released that said something along the line of "Japan understands that Godzilla embodies the horror of nuclear weapons, the american one fights with a monkey." As if the japanese one didn't also fight with the same monkey decades ago, and hey, at least the american one won against said monkey.
Minus One is a fantastic movie, but it really highlights how people on the internet really don't care about Godzilla as a franchise at all, a lot of discourse around the movie is about how they can understand the obvious metaphor and treat it like it's some of the most profound message ever put to screen, and use it to fuel their culture war. I'd argue that the entire kamikaze angle and character arc of the protagonist is the most interesting part of the movie, as it's something that the franchise never attempted before.
nah it's the monkey's great great great (might be more or less great's but just to be safe) grampa I believe
Is “Godzilla = nuclear weapons” the new “Beauty and the Beast = Stockholm syndrome”? 🧐
@@lordtrigon1733 Beauty and the Beast was made in 1991, Godzilla cam out in 1954 and was created as a metaphor for nuclear weaponry
@@saccorhytus I meant as a phenomenon that many online announce because they think it makes them sound insightful. It was a joke.
@@lordtrigon1733 mimicking something isn’t a very good joke
>doesnt like godzilla
>makes video on godzilla
>puts all effort on ADHD editing
>no effort on research
reminds me of game theory's TF2 vs overwatch video, a video that was very poorly researched but full of edits and jokes by people that barely even played both games
That’s literally just every modern CZcams video in a nutshell
@@merucrypoison296nice moxxie picture, it made me chuckle.
That Overwatch pron bit in the video was cringe af
I’m glad people are coming together to not tolerate the lack of information that people present in videos. Because it’s something that runs rampant in other fanbases.
Fr. Its beautiful.
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It's a balance. Correction and Critique versus Reeing and Raging.
CZcams is hell for nerd culture, all the worst channels are huge who all ragebait/ill informed ignorance on stuff they talk about
Faxs
It feels like ever since Godzilla Minus One was released I've seen horrid takes about the Godzilla franchise from those that don't like or follow the franchise. Dont get me wrong im happy to see more people watch Godzilla-but I've seen some horrible takes about this franchise from people that have only watched Minus One or the Monsterverse universe.
These same new elitist "Wooo Haaa, Japan superb" crowd are probably the same ones that skipped over the Anime trilogy and Singular Point
@@hansalanson3497oh come on Singular point wasn’t, i think it was better paced even though Godzilla wasn’t in it much.
@@hansalanson3497Funny you mention that, Singular Point was my most recent Godzilla watch since 2014.
@@kaijukingdom2686wasn't saying it was bad, I think it was a very insightful and conceptually thoughtful Godzilla media, but there's no denying that it didn't exactly came in with the wave of laudations that -1 got, and it certainly didn't fuel the plebian "Japan is always superb" narrative.
@@hansalanson3497 true
It's kind of sad to see my boy Shin being forgotten like that.
My second favorite gojira movie
@@gooldenpug-yd1tp for me its my 1st
It's probably for the best. I wish Shin was more "unstoppable force of destruction" than "giant monster walks to Tokyo, takes breaks along the way".
also sad thing is that we never get sequel
@@Ryuu1010YT yea
I didn't think I'd see a Godzilla soyjack today...or ever...
>I didn't think I'd see a burgerzilla incomprehensible soy woah jack today or whatever
Soyjira
@@cranberrysaucekrazybloke1.891 or however the burgers are flipped
Billions must work on McDonald's
@@jacaredosvudu1638 newGOD ^
"Godzilla is in the public domain in the US"
Yea tell that to Joel Hodgeson lol.
Along with everyone else Toho has sued over the decades.
When we gonna get the Godzilla in Cleveland movie Toho took from us?@@MrAwsomeness360
I find it funny how he claims Toho is not as money hungry as Disney when Toho were going to sue a trash bag company for calling their product "Bagzilla". The one thing scarier than Godzilla are his lawyers.
@@thememeguy2195 damn
Bros got the gay owl pfp 😭
This is a rare time when twitter actually gets mad at the right person💀
And there’s the fact he’s got a history of his own relating to John Swan from the commentary community.
Why do people act like twitter is one entity? Its just another plataform people use.
@kongzillatoho4558 To be fair, Twitter is pretty much a massive hivemind. Although I like to refer to them as an ant colony instead because hivemind sounds cool and Twitter users don't deserve cool sounding terms.
@@coltonwilkie241 How dare you insult them in such a disgusting way. Ants deserve better than this.
@@kongzillatoho4558 correction, its the social media that brainrotted snowflakes use lmfao.
"Godzilla doesn't work in America"
2014, 2019 and 2021 Godzilla Movies: "Are we a fucking joke to you?"
Yeah he a idiot and a fool
1990 movie: "well I'm a joke"
@@kingkoopa64we don't talk about that one
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the success of these movies why Japan started making godzilla movies again? With both shin and minus one directors being big fans of the movies?
@@nugget3687Not only that, but when watching Minus One, I noticed a few subtle MV references that weren’t in previous Japanese Godzilla media. For example, never once did Japan utilize Godzilla’s dorsal plates being visible when he swam, MV Godzilla started that. And they did it in -1 as well. Not only that, but some underwater Godzilla shots even looked like they shot it the same way they shot MV Godzilla’s looks in GvK.
Godzilla as "giant monster pro wrestling" as he's often reduced to in the US, still works. Japan loves pro-wrestling, and it's kind of cooked into Showa Godzilla's DNA. On top of that, Monarch Legacy of Monsters just proved that Godzilla can still do dramatic even when it's not a TOHO or Japanese production.
One thing I am going to ultimately resent about Godzilla Minus One is how people use it as a point to bash the rest of the franchise and talk about how "not as good" the other movies are. It got old after the first weekend, and is now kind of annoying. We get it, Godzilla Minus One was great, but that doesn't give me a reason to bash the other movies and certainly doesn't mean it's the only take and tone for Godzilla I want to see.
I remember reading something about how Haruo Nakajima (the suit actor for Goji in a lot of showa era films) loved wrestling and wanted to include certain wrestling moves in Godzilla vs. Megalon.
@@FirewoodMediaTVI imagined Godzila as either a sumo wrestler cause ya know the wrestling and brawls he has against the other monsters.
Or a shogun or samurai. It's kinda accurate.?? Cause samurai have guns.
And hypothetically godzilas is kinda like a gun?? Does his atomic breath count?
Certain people are afraid to admit they enjoy something on such a simple level as "giant monster pro wrestling fun" because that would somehow make them seem less "intellectual" and would break their facade of being some sort of higher being who only appreciates things with "deep artistic merit".
@@seanmckelvey6618 Fuck being 'intellectual' or 'artistic', I wanna see a 300ft nuclear dinosaur beat the shit out of a subterranean monkey.
@@seanmckelvey6618 higher being? Lol
honestly, I think the monsterverse starting more grounded and becoming more insane does still work with the nuclear weapons metaphor
because the more you build and use nukes, the more crazy, dangerous, and out of control the world becomes
and the more you make the nukes do more ridicules shit
Even then, the grounded tone never sticks past one movie throughout the entire history of the Godzilla franchise. Godzilla starts off as war allegory in 1954, and not even two movies later he's fighting giant apes while clapping his hands like a kindergarten bully at the playground, play volleyball with Rodan with a rock, twin fairies, space dragons, anti-gravity dropkicks, and flying in the air with his own breath. Starting off grounded only to become more fantastical shortly is part of the franchise's identity, and it should be embraced, not shunned.
@MrAwsomeness360 exactly! And tge same thing happened in the Heisei era too! And I'll bet you that if Shin had a sequel or if Minus One gets a sequel it will happen there too
@@weik-2936Exactly! No matter how grounded you try to make it, you're dealing with giant radioactive monsters. You can't just deal with something like that and not play with it like a kid in a sandbox. The grounded tone is a "One In The Chamber" type deal, it only works for one movie per series. Like, dude, the MonsterVerse starts off in a 9/11-like scenario with Titans and then Kong: Skull Island rolls up with a fantasy island full of flora/fauna hybrid monsters and Hollow Earth theories, which is the big selling point being elaborated further and further as the series goes on.
It's like asking the Ninja Turtles to be "grounded" despite having aliens, mutants, fantasy creatures, mystic magic, interdimensional traveling, etc.-it just ain't happening.
@@MrAwsomeness360pretty much any franchise with insane concepts being grounded doesnt work because of what you just said: aliens, magic and the only one i see being able to pull it off is The Boys mainly because it shoves in real life elements to a world where superheroes exist and not making it entirely grounded in reality
The whole Godzilla community is literally going full-on Destroy All Monsters on Skipper's ass. We're the Monster Island homies, and he's King Ghidorah. And ooh boy, he's getting shitdone.
Edit: thanks for the likes, and also I am genuinely surprised that Firewood's vid got more than Doktor's original take. Just goes to show that he has no idea what he's talking about. Keep up the content, Firewood Media. Also, here's to hoping you can hop on a Discord call with some of your viewers, so we can just discuss this shit take.
Cheers, ladies and gents!
bro's video is getting wrecked in the same vain as godzilla destroying a city 💀
@@discmanthecdlord, except we aren't destroying this city with reckless abandon. This is premeditated, and it is of the first degree.
@@pramusetyakanca1552
The Entire Godzilla Community: Giant monsters!... ALL OUT ATTACK!
**Proceed to jump Doktor Skipper's ass**
"FIGHT BACK SKOPPER, FIGHT BACK!!!"
@@pramusetyakanca1552the Godzilla community is literally the Sonic community all over again right?
"Godzilla doesn't work in America" my brother in christs have you've not watched the animated series
Jared Krichevsky (the creature designer for Godzilla x Kong) said they have to get Toho’s approval for any Godzilla designs they come up with. He’s most definitely not in the public domain.
"Godzilla doesn't work in America"
Tell that to Legendary and their hit monsterverse movies
@The_Mecha_Archivistvery ironic mr skipper called godzilla a American hero when he killed children in that show
@The_Mecha_Archivist im poppin tf off when season 2 drops
The original Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla is absolutely a good movie. Not even from a campy perspctove, its as legitimately as fun as any of the funner Marvel movies.
This guy is just assuming the "deep" ones are the only worth watching.
I'm so sick of people trying to have a hot take just to look smart.
Totally agree with all of this
Godzilla against mechagodzilla (the millennium one) is also really good. I was legit surprised how good it was when I watched it.
@@yeetmareet2353 love that movie, and for another, Terror of Mechagodzilla is one of my all time favorites
Tbh the showa era does what people merely claim marvel is doing.
Also Godzilla vs King Ghidorah 1991, really fun/interesting plot I enjoyed it the entire way through
A Godzilla movie taking place during the Cold War sounds like a good idea, especially since there was a great fear back then of nuclear warfare. Like Godzilla could be taking down battleships in the ocean without any side knowing that it’s actually a giant monster, increasing tensions as both nations blame each other for it until the big reveal.
I guess that SOMEWHAT happened in Godzilla 1985…kind of…
Yeah when I referenced the Cold War, I was referring to Godzilla 1985. You're right, though, it would be awesome to see that concept explored more!
The Russians build Mechagodzilla
I had an idea of a Cold War era film that has godzilla represent the fear of nuclear warfare in the ussr and america
Wasn’t Godzilla vs Biollante very Cold War esque too?
@@randomguy6679 I guess so but the return of godzilla Is a better use for a cold war godzilla
Thank you! That video was embarrassing to watch… Truly baffling to get so many things that wrong.
then again I don’t think the person who made the video actually liked Godzilla
Question: Are you going to make a response video at some point?
You know it’s bad when dangerville agrees with this video, Skipper is getting dunked on by everyone and it’s very entertaining
His video is an insult to all Godzilla fans.
a very weak one
This man want nothing but content and straight up hate godzilla WHY THAT IDIOT MAKE THAT VIDEO I KNOWN WHY BECAUSE HE WANT INSUNT OUR G MAN!!!
An insult to his own fans. I've been waiting for a new Skipper video and he force feeds me lies faster than a pathological liar with a fat fetish.
It didnt even insult me 💀🦟
Yes i use the mosquito emoji dont ask me why
@@SuprisedMars_1954Now I will use the mosquito emoji
yeah, and the character and movie don't even enter public domain in the US until 2049.
so... YEARS FROM NOW.
and that's not just it that one the 1954 VERSION OF GODZILLA not any modern versions just the 1954 one
@@Shadowstriker2018 Ikr, there's literally, like, 50 different versions of godzilla
About 30 years
We need a 2054 film
Not many people mention how Godzilla can represent anything. It is truly what makes Godzilla so appealing to so many people. He can be dark, serious, funny, friendly, emotional. Godzilla is something that everyone kind of owns, in one way or another.
We the people of the godzilla community kind of own godzilla with the responsibility of keeping his image safe
I'm one of those guys that from childhood in the 90's and 2000's I would always get shit on for liking that "stupid rubber suit shit", and would have to defend tooth, and nail for my reasoning behind why I love it. What surprises me is now that Godzilla is popular, I have a bunch of people from my childhood asking me about the new movies. It made new fans, and that's great. I guess what I am getting at is that Skipper's video feels like a new age version of shitting on "that rubber suit shit" except now it seems to come from people who are up their own ass while being stupid. I dunno. I don't know the guy, or have never seen his videos, but that doesn't seem like a good first impression.
The fact he knows steamboat whilly is public domain and not godzilla is beyond me, on what levels do you mess up like that???? X.x
Not doing actual research, which he ironically says, "Do your own"
Steamboat Zilla coming when?
@@otakunthevegan4206 there actually is a post on Reddit where Godzilla fucking kills Mickey while he's on the boat
Because steamboat willy becoming public domain was all over the internet.
@@DaveMiller6042what 🤯
Tbh I'm glad I never watched the video when it was making the rounds, I saw something about Godzilla being public domain in the states and knew to stay the hell away. The downside of Minus One putting a spotlight on Godzilla is that now you have people who don't know shit, and can't be bothered to research things spouting outright incorrect information to a wide audience of other people who also don't know.
What I’m wondering is: if Godzilla doesn’t work in America, why is the 5th monsterverse (4th with Godzilla) movie coming out soon?
Working, and being good are two very different concepts.
If he said “Oh the monsterverse is boring and uninspired with barely acceptable writing.” I might agree, but to say they don’t work when I know plenty of people who like Godzilla King Kong buddy cop fun time.
I DONT, but I know people who do.
@@edwardweaver6869I wouldn't say Godzilla and Kong are buddy buddy
@@edwardweaver6869this is like Sonic doesn't work in 3d
I'm predicting it right now, Toho fanboys,1954 purists and Japanese purists are gonna try to boycott Godzilla X Kong.
@@Sgt.Dornan117 Anyone with a brain wouldn’t because Toho gets a cut of the profits. I’m not interested but I’m glad they exist cus they bring in Toho a lot of passive income.
Animation isn’t a “genre” it’s a story telling medium capable of covering all the actual genres you listed. Please do not make this mistake
Calm down he’s not Amy Schumer.
@@Bobzilla2023nah he's right, animation has been disrespected enough in the industry
@@alexmansfield3268 Bro probably just made a mistake no need to get mad.
Calm the f down man
@@alexmansfield3268 Yeah you’re right.
Why is this dude's editing so hyperactive and fast paced??? Is it because of low attention spans? Zoomers are doomed.
Assuming you are talking about Doktor Skipper, I agree that the editing was a bit fast paced for my own liking too but I wanted to strictly critique the substance rather than the style of his video.
@@FirewoodMediaTV Pinely made a really good video about the "Mr Beastification" of CZcams. This dude's style is really similar to what Pinely is talking about. It's style over substance with very little substance. You outright showed that this dude's substance was crap and misinformation.
Bro thinks he's max0r
I don’t even mind fast paced editing if the video is entertaining tbh. It’s just that this dude is dumb
@@Adum_da_ribs_eater_69, without all the facets that make Max0r entertaining.
That mf has been saying Godzilla platitudes that were tired in the early 2000s
Yes to gate keeping for this
Yeah, people started going all anti gatekeeping a couple years back, and I genuinely think it was a MASSIVE fucking mistake. Sure, sometimes it's kind of dickish... and can definitely be bad/toxic, but it genuinely has its place in society. Fake fans / posers fucking suck. Most of the people adamantly against gatekeeping are the posters that people are trying to keep that shit from.
We also have to remember that if Legendary didn’t convince Toho to let them make Godzilla 2014 and it became a box office success, Toho wouldn’t have made Shin Godzilla and Minus One
It was literally almost dead on the shelf with final war expected to be the LAST film.
It’s really annoying having people come around and suddenly act like they’re experts on Godzilla when they’ve only seen a few movies
Let's be real, most of these guys probably never watched Godzilla because it was just big dumb monsters fighting to them, saw only Minus One because Hollywood bad, and suddenly were experts in Godzilla's cultural impact
Assuming they even saw Minus One and didn't just read the summary on Wikipedia
@@burritomensch1257
It’s so annoying
“98% of the movies suck ass anyway.”
Yeah, this sounds like an opinion I _really_ care about, huh?
I'm also not familiar with Godzilla beyond the TriStar movie, but I appreciate this video for showing how little these "pop culture commentary" channels really know. It's just riding the wave of silly culture wars with poorly research criticism.
He usually doesn't do videos like that though.
He's made good essays on other media's and didn't sound like he just concocted the video that same day.
I'm just really baffled he made a video on a media he doesn't like whatsoever and not even caring to learn about it so he could explain his opinions
Saying Godzilla is public domain is like saying Spider-Man or Darth Vader or the Xenomorph are public domain
At least xenomorphs were ripped off so often I could understand any confusion.
Godzilla? Ask Sega whether he's public domain.
Why is that? Did sega make a Godzilla ripoff or something?
@@gavinsiville9969 Revenge of Shinobi boss.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 Spider-Man was also a Revenge of Shinobi boss & yeah, copyright laws got to that boss as well when it came to rereleases.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633What happened with SEGA?
To call Godzilla ‘public domain’ is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard anyone in my entire life say
Everyone dunking on doktor skipper, including the movie itself LOL
Ty i feel so many people love -1 and forget Shin. Ive seen so many vids and reviews of -1 that hate on the Monsterverse but never mentions Shin.
I think recency bias plays a big factor there. Minus One is still fresh in people's minds and had a much bigger release/more hype here in America. It's like getting a new video game and playing it more than your other games. Shin Godzilla obviously deserves its props because its a masterpiece. If anything, I think its pretty cool we can have three masterpieces in the Godzilla franchise ('54, Shin, -1).
Btw I'm planning on doing a big video on Shin Godzilla later this year!
In fairness, Both SHIN GODZILLA and GODZILLA MINUS ONE wasn’t advertised as much at as to me. I only know about G-1 because of CZcamsr were talking about it.
Shin is also less relevant, with it being a satire on a Japan-only problem, while GM1 is a movie about the horrors of war.
@@gasterthemaster6490”Japan-Only problem”
*Side-eyes US government.*
@@turboDrowsy It was heavy on archaic and slow decision makong of Japanese government and with heavy side jab to the US about how they want to drop a nuke tbf
I saw the title and just kept scrolling. That is one of the dumbest opinions I have ever heard. I mean there have been only really 2 cinema "verses" that have actually been successful: the MCU, AND THE AMERICAN MONSTERVERSE MOVIES THAT WERE LITERALLY STARTED OFF WITH GODZILLA
Same. I saw his video many times and ignored it because I knew it wasn’t worth watching. Thank god I didn’t click it lol
Doctor Skipper’s video is an excellent example of “Do some research on your topic before you state your case.”
Bro people have said that "if you think Godzilla is scary, you should see his lawyers"
I think this review definitely came from a place from wanting to trash on Hollywood by pointing at minus one and going “Look they did a thing”. Not actually coming from any reference or authority on Godzilla and it’s past. A lot of the other “everything in America is woke” brainlet movie reviewers have been doing this and it sucks to see minus one on one those god awful click bait CZcams titles.
Reminds me of anime youtuber who bash on everything non-Japanese and go ape crazy when someone hate there horny slice of life anime
Exactly
You f*king nailed it. These moronic dudebros hate Hollywood and the American internement industry for all of the wrong reasons.
Minus one doesn’t deserve that fate
I think this video exposes a larger problem of video essays on a whole, vapid internet personalities who say a whole lotta nothing for 20+min. More people need to be called out on this. Also Godzilla will always be KING 🤴
2:37 In Toho's defense, they made a list of conditions that the team could follow if they decided to continue with it. As the team outright says, the conversations between them were "pleasant and cordial". Toho didn't force them to adhere to their conditions, the team were given free choice, and they willingly chose to accept said conditions. As anybody who understands copyright and trademark knows, too much unlicensed or misappropriated Godzilla could remove him from the protection of trademark law. They HAVE to be aggressive with their IP if they want to keep Godzilla from becoming generic.
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that's not how copyright (especially dealing with international characters) works
THANK YOU DUDE. I commented on the video because I passionately disagreed with his stance of the original 1954 kotm Godzilla as a movie that strips the Japanese version of its narrative significance. Didn’t expect anyone to share my opinion so I let it go but I’m glad real Godzilla fans agree.
you are so real for this AND youre an RID 2001 fan LETSGOO
@@nebula_em6749haslab hype?
This Doktor Skipper's editing style is actually uncomfortable to watch. Was the whole video made for 10 year olds with ADHD?
Thats basically what zoomers and millennials are
More like gen Alpha
@@thedoctorofcringe05Except the Gen Alpha wouldn't be able to comprehend the atrocious slop coming from Skippers mouth
@@Milo_hAt3r True
This man studied Godzilla for two minutes and made a whole video on it....wow
How hilarious is it right in the middle of this whole community war between the Monsterverse fans and Minus One fans that the only thing Doctor Skipper managed to do is unite both sides into flaming his terrible takes and misinformation.
The reason I'm on both teams (monsterverse and minus one) is no matter which one fails or which one succeeds I always come out on top
Pretty bold of him to say no other film in the franchise had an impact on pop culture when the statue and painted mural outside of Toho Studios as well as the giant head on top of the Gracery Hotel is the Heisei era Godzilla
This guy doesn’t know that most of the charm of Godzilla is the whiplash you get between movies
For one movie he was a serious allegory to horror of nuclear bomb and in another he plays soccer with Angirus lmao.
Fanstastic video! Skipper's video very clearly was made to cash in on the dumb "culture war" "hollywood vs. non hollywood" thing that so many people are trying to do. Because if he actually did even a bit of research his video wouldn't exist because he'd realize, "oh this is just objectively not true."
Godzilla like Batman or Spider-Man or the Gundam franchsie or Superman, can be super serious and talk about serious themes and messages. But they can also just be goofy fun. It's very sad so many people are being elitist about Godzilla because of Minus One. If you prefer the serious films that's fine but to act like the goofy ones can't exist alongside them is elitist and stupid.
I rambled, fantastic video!
Like, -1 and Shin have their way to potray Godzilla. Monsterverse has its way. And guess what? They both worked. Why? Because both are consistant on how unstoppable this guy is
I swear at this point I wouldn't find it too hard to believe if the Skipper guy just made his video as a super big trolling trigger to all Godzilla Stans.
Did doctor skipper forgot that shin godzilla exist?
This is just what happens with a Japanese franchise that also gets American movies. When there's a great movie that is made by the Japanese company, then there's gonna be some people who immediately bash the American movies. Because in their minds "Japan makes everything better" and they hate everything that isn't Japanese. This is just a small part of people but they are a loud bunch
Nah fr that generally goes for most anime fans, especially the annoying ones that try and preach all dubs suck
@@PeruvianPotato yes
@@PeruvianPotatohonestly if they like japan that much they should move there it would do the states a favor
The fact that someone made a Godzilla Soyjak is insane
“that got defeated because water was spilled on the computer”
EVERY FREAKING COMPUTER BREAKS WHEN WET (most liquids)
Doktor Skipper’s video is exactly the reason why not only film criticism and analysis is dying, but the way these “critics” like to act, ie hyperbolic smarmy smartasses with a hint of immaturity and narcissism, is also an example why this type of act is flawed and stupid
So glad it took this one guy’s awful take to essentially unite the entire fandom again lmao.
I love how people think they know everything yet they’re crap at research 😂😂😂 I went to the same article and it does say only the photo is public domain but the movie and the model is private and will be copyrighted if used.
how the hell you gonna use a rotten model? 💀
I bet this guy has never seen the best Godzilla series ever.
GODZILLAND
dr skippers editing style is giving me a headache
he 1954 Godzilla and the one that appeared from 1955-1975 are two different characters despite sharing the same name, as the former died in his debut film from the Oxygen Destroyer. While the second Godzilla started as a villain, he slowly developed into a hero. Plus, throughout the Showa era, they still kept his origin the same, it's just they turned it into something more positive than hanging onto Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but in a more natural way.
Raids Again, he was fighting Anguirus purely for territorial reasons.
KK vs. G, it was for territorial reasons. He was also the villain, there.
Mothra vs. Godzilla, he was the villain,
Ghidorah is the start of his redemption arc, as Mothra persuades him and Rodan to fight the bigger threat which is the space dragon. Here, we also delve into Godzilla's feelings towards humanity in a way that relates to us, as he just wanted to be left alone, but the military kept "bullying" him and Rodan.
From that point forward, as long as humanity left him alone, he did the same. In Invasion of the Astro Monster, he only became a threat when he got brainwashed by the Xilians.
TBH, he didn't become a full superhero until Vs. Hedorah, and even then he still glared at humanity after defeating Hedorah, warning them if they create something like it again, he'll go after them.
Meanwhile, in the MonsterVerse, he was a protector from the very start, and his atomic powers are 100% natural, even before the Castle Bravo tests. Godzilla's character in the MV feels less nuanced compared to the Showa era.
Yeah, the issue isn’t that Godzilla doesn’t work in America. It’s that we quintessentially don’t get or respect him the way Japan does.
To us he’s just a cool big monster doing cool big monster things. We’re so far fucking removed from what he’s supposed to represent or we embody what he represents so we just run with it.
Legendary MV pics aren’t bad Godzilla’s they’re just mediocre movies trying to capitalize on a popular trend in media and it definitely feels that way.
This may come off as heresy, but I actually prefer the Cartoon version of the 1998 Zilla to the Legendary Monsterverse one.
@@edwardweaver6869 "Respect him the way Japan does". You mean the same Japan that made flying jump Godzilla? Atomic jetpack Godzilla? Godzilla being the dream of a 9 year old boy as a way to fight bullies? **You** don't understand Godzilla if you think the Monsterverse is somehow less than Japanese Godzilla
@@farkbett699 Bruh if you’re gonna equate Showa and Heisei era to Monsterverse toy slop.
You’re probably even more brain dead than skipper.
Yeah they might have been goofy and campy but rarely did it ever devolve into JUST big toy selling fun time.
Just stop trying to defend anything that comes out of that crap.
You strip any real directorial vision away and the second you hand Legendary Kaiju or Mechs they make toy pushing slop.
King Kong is a god damn shell of what he once represented, wasted by Hollywood to make a quick buck selling toys, last Kong movie worth a shit was Peter Jackson’s.
They turned Pacific Rim into a toy pushing shit fest once Del Toro left.
Turned Godzilla into a toy pushing shitfest with ZERO nuance. Just big cool monster doing big cool monster shit.
Yeah there were some turds in the Showa or Heisei periods but the whole selection weren’t soulless turds like everything that Legendary has pushed.
And don’t even try to defend that god awful barely watchable (Too fucking dark) 2014 start of the monsterverse either.
@@farkbett699To be fair Atomic Breath Flight and Sliding Drop Kick are the funniest shits I've ever seen
@@edwardweaver6869buddy shut up I go see giant monster fight I get to see giant monster fight if you like Japanese Godzilla that much go to japan we already have enough people like you in the states
I literally turned off that video after a few seconds. Seemed so unformed. So happy you made this video
I wanted to throw my phone at the wall
I'm just gonna go ahead and say I fucking called it. Minus one is drawing out people that this fandom doesn't want and that don't want anything to do with the fandom. this is fine people can do there own thing but when you start spouting off nonsense that's when were gonna have issues. the amount of times I've heard Godzilla minus one called the best Godzilla movie ever because its the least like the other Godzilla movies doesn't exactly make me happy to know the films doing so well. the fact that so much of the anti-hollywood/ anti-disney crowd is championing the movie also isn't a good thing. I think our fandom is about to enter a hefty round of toxicity that I'd have preferred just been avoided.
Yeah as usual geek culture especially the online side of it has become even more fucked at the moment to
Very funny that the American Godzilla movies have nothing to do with Disney or Hollywood
listen from what I've seen its sorta like the original movie, dark depressing and horrifying, the monster verse ain't that, their two different entities who just so happen to share a name and people need to learn that
I'm so glad more people are clowning on that man.
Now we need them to crap on his other videos like his “spider man 2 is not a masterpiece” video and his spider verse still clears elemental video.
Godzilla's versatility in story telling is what makes him so popular and loved. While I grew up watching Showa era goofiness where those are my favorite. Someone will have a completely different experience than me, and that's okay.
I literally just searched for people talking about this video and yours came out as soon as i searched lol
Im gonna enjoy this video
Edit: I did in fact enjoy the video and i agree with the points you brought up, he really did almost zero research and spilled gallons of misinformation about godzilla, and what he represents.
Thanks for watching! I’m really glad you liked it. I really tried to make it a level headed response and didn’t try to let emotions guide my arguments. After all, I am biased and love Godzilla. There’s nothing wrong with someone not liking Godzilla but to outright lie and misrepresent the series is where I draw the line haha
@@FirewoodMediaTVexactly
I understand that he didnt like godzilla, but the all the lies and misinformation in his video were outrageous.
The lies bothered me too. I almost clicked off of his video because of the large number of lies. Not because he didn’t like godzilla, but just because, well, the video was outrageously incorrect, almost as if he didnt do any research and just spat out what he thought was right.
Keep up the good work with your videos, and no, the fact that your biased towards Godzilla doesn’t invalidate anything you’ve said.
Thank you! I appreciate the support!!!
I think where he got the public domain thing from is when godzilla vs. megalon wasn't trademarked in the us dub so many people that it was public domain (which is why there was a bunch of vhs tapes of the movie)
I've got a feeling Skipper didn't even watch Minus One, let alone any other Japanese Godzilla film. Guy just saw some juicy content ripe for exploiting and got to work putting out that half-assed Wikipedia article of a video
His subjective opinion is objectively shit.
Toho is so strict about it’s copyright. They even made a joke about it in the 3rd Austin Powers movie.
“Run!! It’s Godzilla!!”
“It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright law, it’s not.”
“Still we should run like it is Godzilla!!!”
“Though it isn’t.”
“AHHH!!!”
He thee type to say “I’m not racist, my friend is black”
I'm glad that everyone came out to call out the bs on that godawful video.
My only worry is that Godzilla Minus One's legacy would be tarnished because some fans would try to use it to go full-on elitist and discredit any Godzilla movie that came before Minus One. I really love Minus One but also love the Monsterverse as well. I would hate to see either side of Godzilla being discredited.
I honestly couldn’t even finish his video because of the hyperactive editing. I did get confused when he talked about the copyright because iirc Legendary had to follow certain rules set by Toho in order to use Godzilla in the Godzilla vs Kong movie
I love how the entire godzilla community is practically crucifying him
That guys video is the perfect example of what is wrong with modern journalism.
He thinks Wikipedia is a reliable information source, he thinks memes and funny jokes make hia argument full proof, and he thinks he is immune to criticism
This is like saying Cheeseburgers doesn't work in Japan; absolutely ridiculous.
Skipper’s editing style is a pain to watch, how am I supposed to take him seriously if he edits his content like it’s made for CZcams Kids? It just leaves me feeling insulted, if anything.
That guy is making a big mistake of course it was made in Japan 🇯🇵 but they can release the movies around the world
Hard disagree that it's "just his opinion." Roger Ebert once said the following:
"So let's focus on those who seriously believe "Transformers" is one of the year's best films. Are these people wrong? Yes. They are wrong. I am fond of the story I tell about Gene Siskel. When a so-called film critic defended a questionable review by saying, "after all, it's opinion," Gene told him: "There is a point when a personal opinion shades off into an error of fact. When you say 'The Valachi Papers' is a better film than 'The Godfather,' you are wrong." Quite true. We should respect differing opinions up to certain point, and then it's time for the wise to blow the whistle. Sir, not only do I differ with what you say, but I would certainly not fight to the death for your right to say it. Not me. You have to pick your fights."
It’s so frustrating that people refuse to understand that opinions CAN be objective fact.
I think that having an opinion does not mean you have to bring down the people who like the stuff that's the complete opposite of your opinion
And thats pretty much every movie review ever where it ridicules something to make something look bad
For example: Transformers (Bayverse) vs Transformers (G1/Reboot)
Both of them say that the other is bad and it is not transformers enough for their taste and both of them get in heated arguments trying to bring one down simply because one is "mindless entertainment that does not respect the source material and makes fun of it because it feels like a cartoon" and one is "too friendly and too clean for it to be a large-scale action movie where it takes away the magic and raunchyness of action movies and replacing it with disney robots"
And this comes from a person who used to like the Michael Bay Transformers movies but eventually realized that it is not all that good but i not once i tried to bring down people who like the bayverse, but more of pointing out the problems with it, and the biggest problem is that whenever someone criticizes something that they like, they'll just think that you are being a hater
My problem isn't what he presents as opinion. My problem is what he presents as fact. He wants to say a majority of Godzilla films suck, cool. That's how he feels, no right or wrong about it. But when he says that Bernie's flask had water in it or that the MUTOs represent Japan, well then gloves off, wheres the evidence buddy.
@@OBSDCC7 I think the real problem is that so many people either can't or just won't recognise the difference between opinion and fact, and they feel the desperate need to justify their enjoyment if something by overhyping the fuck out of it, or inversely go out of their way to shit on something they don't like even in aspects that aren't actually poorly made.
Like it's one thing to say "I like Micheal Bay's Transformers better than the Godfather" and it's quite another to say shit like "the visual effects in CW's Flash are amazing state of the art VFX work while James Cameron's Avatar films are cheap and look like utter shit".
One is a statement of personal opinion which can't be wrong regardless of the film's quality unless the person sharing this take is lying about their personal preference for whatever reason, while the other is a statement of fact that can easily be disproven.
People act like nothing is objective in films, and while that might be accurate to say about people's response to said films it certainly isn't the case for what actually goes into making them, there are rules and standards to make a film that works, and while rules and such can be broken and twisted for interesting creative intent it still needs to be done with purpose to yield the desired response, just like critics can't just say whatever failing even basic fact checking and expect people to eat it up.
He Will Always Be A Godzilla
couldn't even sit through the original video because of how insane the editing on it was.
If Godzilla being a hero is such a wild concept for Doktor Skipper, nobody tell him about Singular Point 👀
For some reason fans of Minus 1 and Shin seem to think that Godzilla being a good guy is a purely American thing when in reality Japan did it first and WAY more often
One thing I have found annoying ever since Minus One came out is the thought Godzilla needs to be serious movies, and the monstervese is trash. I think you mentioned it, but they’re trying to do their own thing. The monsterverse has alright humans, but the Monsters have the main focus and get the most characterization in the movies. After 2014, they all became super expressive and the main characters. Minus one is about the humans and their interpersonal conflicts, with Godzilla being a force of destruction that people need to work with to defeat.
And a lot of those people forget that the Godzilla movies have been just as silly and ridiculous to an extent, even after the Showa era. I think Godzilla is great as a fun action movie and a fantastic critique of the world. 1954 and Minus One are my favorite Godzilla films, but Final Wars is my third favorite.
For all the toxicity the G-fanbase can have, I am glad we call out misinformation though I do have to question the guy. If he hates Godzilla, then why make a video about him? Maybe he needed clout.
I think its pretty obvious why. Alot of buzz going around Minus One, he checked it out probably with friends. Thought it was going to be silly and goofy because thats his impression of Godzilla, and was surprised at the fact Minus One is a legitimately good movie. And then got salty at Godzilla fans celebrating Minus One success. You can tell he's extremely salty by the fact he starts the video malding at some people saying that Godzilla is the most popular figure in Japan.
@@kongzillatoho4558 who you talking abt? skip-the-research or burnt-wood-videos?