ATI Omni Hybrid 5.56 & 300blk | Can a PLASTIC AR Get the Job Done???

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Komentáře • 899

  • @50Cal_Actual
    @50Cal_Actual Před 11 měsíci +333

    "Sniffing like Hunter in the White House" LOL. Well played sir, well played.

  • @StealthSueYou
    @StealthSueYou Před 11 měsíci +236

    For that money, just get a PSA on sale. It'll last longer and runs quite well in comparison! Though to your point, a polymer setup could be ideal in some situations like you mentioned.

    • @rebelscumspeedshop8677
      @rebelscumspeedshop8677 Před 11 měsíci +31

      And the PSA of today is far better than the PSA of 5 years ago.

    • @sliderkitz
      @sliderkitz Před 11 měsíci +11

      Yeah he’s vouched for PSA before. Good to see him go to the extreme budget option. This is literally the cheapest ar out there

    • @edgarburlyman738
      @edgarburlyman738 Před 11 měsíci +6

      I saw these for $260 on rural king guns before.

    • @Roboticdoughbull3k
      @Roboticdoughbull3k Před 11 měsíci +4

      Anderson manufacturing am15, all metal all the time. Less filling, tastes great, no failures or smoking pipes of any sort and I'm very happy to promote a American made firearms manufacturer.

    • @weinowei143
      @weinowei143 Před 11 měsíci +6

      PSA for best bang for the buck and for the win

  • @sjoracer2934
    @sjoracer2934 Před 11 měsíci +121

    When you can get a blem psa for 499, there is no reason for one of these. Love the Videos you put out

    • @IAmBeowulf701
      @IAmBeowulf701 Před 11 měsíci +7

      When you can print an Orca for under $400, there's REALLY no reason for one of these.

    • @xavierh.5102
      @xavierh.5102 Před 11 měsíci +11

      around a week ago you could get complete PSA upper and lower for 330 all said and done.

    • @itsjustjoe3790
      @itsjustjoe3790 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Complete Bear Creek rifle or pistol AR can be $349 on sale 2x a year. They also have uppers @$199 complete with BCG for .22LR to 50 Beowulf

    • @The_Professional_Hobbiest
      @The_Professional_Hobbiest Před 11 měsíci +5

      currently you can get a blem psa upper and components kit for 300 and a lower for 30 bucks. so if you are smart enough to find a build video somewhere you can have one for 330 dollars

    • @StandardAmerican623
      @StandardAmerican623 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Psa actually just had a sale and the had a full Ar for 360$

  • @schmelzeroutdoors4426
    @schmelzeroutdoors4426 Před 9 měsíci +10

    Just picked up the Omni-Hybrid in 5.56. Was a police trade in, came with a fire field multi color/reticle optic already fitted. Took it home and cleaned it very well and so far I personally have no complaints!!

    • @iceman12451
      @iceman12451 Před 3 měsíci

      There is no way law enforcement would trust this rifle

    • @charlessandoval3765
      @charlessandoval3765 Před 2 měsíci

      @@iceman12451it’s not a bad one

    • @iceman12451
      @iceman12451 Před 2 měsíci

      @@charlessandoval3765 looked it up. They are in fact not police trade ins. They were just cheap stuff thrown on a cheap rifle

  • @leadhead7338
    @leadhead7338 Před 11 měsíci +17

    Bought the ATI Omni Hybrid multi-cal 5.56 back in 2015'ish and it still hasnt failed me and its my son and wifes favorite gun to shoot, its so light and a great little shooter! the Omni Hybrid is only polymer lower, the Omni Max is with a polymer upper! mine since the lower is the only polymer part its pretty accurate but i dont really shoot over 250 yards

    • @frigglebiscuit7484
      @frigglebiscuit7484 Před 10 měsíci +4

      ive got the max, it shoots great.

    • @TruthGotGunz
      @TruthGotGunz Před 9 měsíci +2

      Holy shit I didn’t know that!!! I have the Omni, 5.56 16 inch rifle (I customized TF out of it) and I have a OMNI 300 blackout ARP, Both runs flawlessly, even before I did my upgrades on my 5.56. I’m going to do the same upgrades with my 300 blackout as well. But man I wonder if ours being just lower polymer the reason why ours function well.

    • @leadhead7338
      @leadhead7338 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@TruthGotGunz probably

  • @OldManJeff
    @OldManJeff Před 11 měsíci +71

    With the sales running on PSA right now you can put together complete ARs for around $320. It's insane.

    • @johnlombardo7816
      @johnlombardo7816 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Can you point me in a direction of where to get that ? Even a little more $ but in that range. Always wanted an AR but didn't have the money for the $1000 plus or 1500 models I see around here.. thanks

    • @jonboy9734
      @jonboy9734 Před 9 měsíci

      @@johnlombardo7816freedom lower is 129$ and a decent upper from them is 300 and some change. It’s what I spent. I also live in sc and just walked into psa and bought it in person.

    • @reiniergarcia
      @reiniergarcia Před 8 měsíci +4

      The legend says he is still waiting for your answer. 😂

    • @johnlombardo7816
      @johnlombardo7816 Před 8 měsíci

      @@reiniergarcia yep 🤣

    • @jonasbaine3538
      @jonasbaine3538 Před 8 měsíci

      @@johnlombardo7816 there's probably a factory in china pumping out black market ARs for $50. 🙂

  • @nitroglycerin26
    @nitroglycerin26 Před 11 měsíci +67

    Used to work at a gun shop/ range and saw a bunch of these come though. I’ve seen receiver cracks where the buffer tube gets screwed in. Also some versions ship with polymer fire control groups that wear out over time. I also saw a few with loose gas blocks. ATI makes some aluminum ones for not much more called the Mil sport and are slightly better but would go with an Anderson at the bare minimum or a PSA which would be preferred for a dirt cheap AR

    • @kevinhovis4
      @kevinhovis4 Před 11 měsíci

      I own the 5.56. It was sent back with a loose gas block and a bad bolt carrier group. Got it back and still had problems so I put anderson byo lower parts kit in and got rid of all the plastic pins and plastic trigger group. The upper is still the same but it seems to ride really tight like it's shrinking down. But it does run after a little tinkering

    • @leadhead7338
      @leadhead7338 Před 11 měsíci +6

      bought the Omni Hybrid 5.56 in like 2015 and havent had a problem with it and i shoot mine in below 0 weather here in the North East

    • @frankiejames650
      @frankiejames650 Před 11 měsíci +10

      ATI started reinforcing the lower with aluminum.

    • @leadhead7338
      @leadhead7338 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@frankiejames650 I bought mine in 2015 and it was reinforced then

    • @kevinhovis4
      @kevinhovis4 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @frankiejames650 I have the omni maxx and they do have a metal ring the buffer mounts mounts in. BTW my maxx is pretty accurate at 350 yards haven't been to a longer range to see any farther

  • @nooneyouknow8359
    @nooneyouknow8359 Před 11 měsíci +20

    when i was in the market for an under 400.00 ar15,
    the ATI in this video and
    the RADICAL FIREARMS FR16 were the only choices.
    I bought the RADICAL FIREARMS FR16 for 395
    The lower, upper, and rail system are all aluminium
    and the current prices i see are still under 400 bucks
    I threw on a SIG green dot from amazon which cost under 80.00
    and perfect working ar with dot, for under 500 bucks!

    • @grinningDEATH76
      @grinningDEATH76 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I have well over a thousand rounds through my 7.5 in Radical and have never had a stoppage of any kind even when bump firing. Well worth the price.

    • @ljguitarwizard
      @ljguitarwizard Před 11 měsíci +2

      Just got me a fr16 and loving it. Got a buttstock pad and some iron sights. Gonna get a holosun with the acss and a magnifier soon.

    • @nooneyouknow8359
      @nooneyouknow8359 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@grinningDEATH76 i bought mine in january 2023, ive done a little over 4600 rounds, my only problem was magazine related. I had bought old military 30 round magazines.
      So the rifle, has had no issues.
      the magazines i bought were so old hey didnt have the anti tilt followers so I'd get jams galore.
      but other magazines have worked superbly.
      The rifle, I am amazed with it still.

    • @chrisromero3803
      @chrisromero3803 Před 2 měsíci +1

      i also got the radical firearms 400$ AR and its been great

  • @carsonmontgomery4515
    @carsonmontgomery4515 Před 11 měsíci +14

    I bought one a few years back as a first AR and I still shoot mine. I've been swapping out parts as I can afford it (new trigger, rail, barrel, stock) but the rest of the parts are original and so far haven't had issues with it. Me personally, I'd say for a beginner on a budget, not a bad rifle to start with.

    • @eagleone5456
      @eagleone5456 Před 11 měsíci

      You built out a poly receiver set? Honestly with what PSA offers, it just wouldn't make sense to buy anything like this now.

    • @carsonmontgomery4515
      @carsonmontgomery4515 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@eagleone5456 my gunsmith said the same thing lol but I was new to guns and didn't know what I didn't know. Right now I'm saving up for a new upper and lower and basically just morphing the gun into something else lol

  • @Edge1775
    @Edge1775 Před 11 měsíci +13

    just received "The Warrior Poet Way" a couple of days ago and I couldn't put it down, well done!

  • @sethrogers8473
    @sethrogers8473 Před 11 měsíci +17

    Love the shout out to Scott. I'm sure he would love to have you back to try out more guns you'll hate... that 4-bore would be a wild ride

  • @mattshiznits
    @mattshiznits Před 8 měsíci +6

    bought my ATI Omni Hybrid back in 2018. I've had no breakages in shooting, but I cracked my upper at the front takedown pin when I was tightening the barrel nut after replacing the handguard. But it was reasonably accurate for me. No wobbles like the one John showed here. Poly lower still going strong years later

  • @silverenigma7729
    @silverenigma7729 Před 11 měsíci +35

    The Ruger 556 was my first AR and as a budget rifle it is unstoppable. Back when I bought mine, it was a higher end low budget AR and i have no regrets!

    • @hw951
      @hw951 Před 11 měsíci +6

      I’ve had one of those for nearly 10 years now. It was my first AR. I now have some “higher end” rifles. But I can’t let that one go and I still shoot it regularly.

    • @diver165
      @diver165 Před 11 měsíci +4

      I have one. I’ve never had a problem with it. It’s always gone bang and hit the target when I pulled the trigger

    • @kyleja23
      @kyleja23 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I love my ruger 5.56

    • @mookieo8094
      @mookieo8094 Před 8 měsíci

      The ruger 556 is great I’ve got about 3 deers maybe 600 rounds thru it runs flawless deadly accurate last deer was a headshot at 78 yards enough said 💯

    • @HelterSkelter117
      @HelterSkelter117 Před 8 měsíci

      That was my first AR. Well, not quite true. My first was an M&P 15-22. So I will say my Ruger was my first "real" AR. Got it in carbine length. That thing is rock solid and cycles every round I throw at it. Love my Ruger AR556!

  • @spicyguacc
    @spicyguacc Před 11 měsíci +21

    I’ve seen quite a few melt at the front takedown pin. Cool concept though.

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 Před 11 měsíci +4

      i cant understand how the barrel nut is able to lock up tight enough. not to mention when its 400 degrees.

  • @KyleC2OO7
    @KyleC2OO7 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I had a ATI OMNI Hybrid 5.56 AR pistol, it ran flawlessly. Probably about 500 rounds and then I got rid of it. But didn’t have all these jams like he has. The real plus is these can be had easily for under $400. With it being the Omni Hybrid it does have metal reinforcements inside where it counts.

    • @shelomonscales7273
      @shelomonscales7273 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I have one. Had it since March of this year. Only issue was the mlok hand Raul twisted like his, not the barrel, just the rail. I ran it dry for a couple hundred rounds, it did jam after the first 3 of 30 mag. Put the lucas gun grease that came with it on and now she shoots good. Just use good ammo.

    • @AlexM-gx8tt
      @AlexM-gx8tt Před 6 měsíci

      ​@shelomonscales7273 literally just got myself a hybrid but the 7.5" model from a buddy that kept it in the back of his truck as an extra hog rifle so it is pretty dirty but still functions, gonna give it a complete clean down and proper oiling along with a new trigger assembly and fresh paint job, for a less than $350 rifle I can see no harm in adding it to my safe 👍

  • @the_og_rocklee_154
    @the_og_rocklee_154 Před 11 měsíci +6

    John did Scott dirty😂

  • @nathanstotts1585
    @nathanstotts1585 Před 11 měsíci +3

    ...I have one...love it.

  • @mattfountain7481
    @mattfountain7481 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Put a .22 lr conversion kit in it for my daughter and it runs good. But nice and light and a great way for her to learn the controls of an AR-15. Don’t have to worry about breaks or cracks with the power of a .22!!

  • @walkercustoms
    @walkercustoms Před 11 měsíci +13

    I have and like polymer lowers. Uppers I don't think are there yet. And even with lowers there's a few things that should be done certain ways to avoid failure.

    • @leadhead7338
      @leadhead7338 Před 11 měsíci +1

      The ATI Omni Hybrid is only polymer on the lower, the Omni Hybrid Max is a polymer lower and upper not sure if he realizes that, i have the original Omni Hybrid with the polymer lower and its not bad at all other than maybe a hair crack on buffer ring/not sure if its a crack or o blemish but it has steel inserts under the polymer so it should be fine and has been since 2015'ish

  • @top-hat-roach8116
    @top-hat-roach8116 Před 11 měsíci +34

    You should do Bear Creek Arsenal (BCA) next . There’s not a huge difference in the price between the two brands for the most part. However, their quality seems to be better plus they are American made and offer what I can only described as a copious amount of options.
    Everything from 223 to 30-06 in an various AR platforms.

    • @winnon992
      @winnon992 Před 10 měsíci

      Also you can get a 410 from Bear Creek that’ll fit !

  • @louiscapasso4452
    @louiscapasso4452 Před 11 měsíci +7

    You can't go wrong with a PSA. Same price or cheaper if you watch the sales, and very well put together. Do have to shout out Bear Creek Arsenal I have two of their uppers and they shoot great. In fact the heavy barreled 20 inch upper shoots less than 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards. Best 220 dollars I've spent in a long time.

  • @nickstarks22
    @nickstarks22 Před 11 měsíci +10

    KE Arms lower is pretty legit. Get the WWSD2020 rifle and you'll be impressed. Polymer lower, carbon fiber handguard and a pencil barrel. Right around 5.0 lbs for a 16" barrel and all.

    • @Topher7527
      @Topher7527 Před 11 měsíci +3

      And on the more budget friendly side, their Civil Defense Rifle is also great.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Před 7 měsíci

      Whats the full name or part number on this one

  • @sjoracer2934
    @sjoracer2934 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Love the videos!

  • @joeanderson4474
    @joeanderson4474 Před 11 měsíci +12

    I would love to see John collab with Hoffman and do a review of the Orca.

  • @exodusz19
    @exodusz19 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Love that you pointed out that there are some redeeming factors in even the cheapest firearms

  • @timothyvandenhoek4326
    @timothyvandenhoek4326 Před 10 měsíci

    My copy of your book just got here and I can’t wait to read it! Thank you again for your service and for your hard work.

  • @theblindsniper9130
    @theblindsniper9130 Před 11 měsíci +10

    The Omni Max I had on my channel over the years I got up to 8k or so rounds. Still ran. Though it was fairly unreliable, every few mags was a stoppage. But it did keep going.

    • @theblindsniper9130
      @theblindsniper9130 Před 10 měsíci

      @willyberg123 Held zero pretty well, but the front sight block was canted so, the rear sight had some extreme windage adjustments going on. About 4 ish MOA with the steel i normally ran through it.

  • @handlebarslim78
    @handlebarslim78 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. You answered a lot of questions.

  • @brettelizabethspore
    @brettelizabethspore Před 10 měsíci +3

    Polymer is not my first choice, but I like that manufacturers are looking at different resources and build materials. I can see the potential in the future for home builds should the need arise.

    • @winnon992
      @winnon992 Před 10 měsíci

      Polymer is not my choice in handguns either. Will they be here in 50 or 100 years for my heirs to enjoy ?

  • @jth_printed_designs
    @jth_printed_designs Před 11 měsíci +16

    Hoffman Tactical has a 3D printed AR design, I'm sure an injection molded polymer gun is fine.

    • @BenReese
      @BenReese Před 11 měsíci

      Hoffman redesign the lower off the specs just for 3D printing. The polymer lower in this video appears to be the standard metal design just in plastic. Same with the upper.
      The Orca is what John should check out and give his opinion on though. Polymer upper and lower, but designed to be stronger where needed.

    • @Xpnential999999
      @Xpnential999999 Před 10 měsíci

      Brownell’s is selling KE Arms lowers for $69.99 on sale. No need to spend time/effort to print anything unless you wish to do so to remain off a list.

  • @DanielMartinez-wj5dy
    @DanielMartinez-wj5dy Před 11 měsíci

    Just got your book for my birthday yesterday! Very excited to read it 💪🏻👍🏻

  • @fullmetal_vet
    @fullmetal_vet Před 11 měsíci +3

    Have had mine for a few years now. I love it

    • @leadhead7338
      @leadhead7338 Před 11 měsíci

      Do you have the Omni Hybrid with only polymer lower, or the Omni Hybrid Max with polymer lower and upper?

    • @fullmetal_vet
      @fullmetal_vet Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@leadhead7338I have the one that is steal reenforced polymer upper and lower. I did put a trigger and a ambidextrous safety on it as well as an ambidextrous charging handle, I am left handed.

  • @masonwright8754
    @masonwright8754 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Have been using the WWSD rifle by KE Arms, sold on Brownells. It has a monolithic polymer lower and metal upper. So far no issues or worries with breaking or accuracy in all my shooting with it. I will be attending 3 days of classes with it soon.... will have to see how it runs there

  • @minimanr5052
    @minimanr5052 Před 11 měsíci

    Good review. Been seeing these all over.

  • @lylewalters909
    @lylewalters909 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Oh ya..thanks for the great review. It's good to see goo honest gun reviews.

  • @DaveL9170
    @DaveL9170 Před 11 měsíci +60

    The polymer lower plays very, very little role in the viability of the gun itself. 99% of the work is handled by the upper.

    • @leadhead7338
      @leadhead7338 Před 11 měsíci +6

      The ATI Omni Hybrid has a polymer lower only, but the Omni Hybrid Max is polymer lower and upper, i have the Omni Hybrid which is a Polymer lower and have had it since like 2015 and its a great shooter, i only had a couple stops with it on the first few mags and its been great ever since, and it darn sure does not twist like his did, i shoot it out to 250 yards all the time and its plenty accurate and when i bought it, it was the lightest AR on the market

    • @guruthossindarin3563
      @guruthossindarin3563 Před 11 měsíci +5

      I question this a bit, since the manufacturers of polymer lowers have all had to beef them up quite a bit from the milspec design, in order to stop breakage.

    • @HoffmanTactical
      @HoffmanTactical Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@guruthossindarin3563 It's mostly true, but there is still significant stress do to handling.

    • @obsidianet
      @obsidianet Před 10 měsíci

      @@leadhead7338🤮

    • @sheepdog457
      @sheepdog457 Před 10 měsíci +2

      The first polymer lower I had experience with cracked at the area around the rear takedown pin where the material is very thin and not reinforced. The lower/firearm had not sustained any significant trauma which would have contributed to the failure. It had less than 100 rounds through it. An unexplainable and unacceptable failure, in my opinion.

  • @SchinzonofRemus
    @SchinzonofRemus Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great training item as it has so many issues! I need one!!

  • @Jrichards30
    @Jrichards30 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Great to see more weapon reviews

    • @JordanJimmyDavison
      @JordanJimmyDavison Před 11 měsíci

      This is a paperweight review not a firearm. 🔥 🔥 🔥

  • @2ATranA
    @2ATranA Před 11 měsíci +3

    Love your content! Thanks for being a great teacher 🙏🥰

    • @762x69
      @762x69 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hello There - Ben Kenobi

  • @OffGridandOutdoors
    @OffGridandOutdoors Před 6 měsíci +1

    I've got an older ATI Omni FrankenAR hybrid. Plastic hand guard replaced with 7" metal MLOC. The polymer lower got scraped for a Core 15 CXV with upgraded and tweaked trigger. Runs pretty good now .

  • @sedevri864
    @sedevri864 Před 11 měsíci +13

    I would never choose a polymer upper, but I'd be willing to try the KP-15 polymer lower because its monolithic so it should have fewer structural weaknesses. I would like to see more reviews on the mid/lower end spectrum because the economy sucks and times are uncertain. Might help people who are new to the space.

    • @thunderfisk309
      @thunderfisk309 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I first started with polymer Cav-15 lower and while the first generation wasn't trouble free it was replaced with a Gen 2 and ran great, Russell has improved the design under the KE-15 and I wouldn't hesitate to throw on a 5.56 or 300 BO normal metal upper and pit it against a metal lower.

  • @SAUCE_DADDY
    @SAUCE_DADDY Před 10 měsíci +1

    Haven't had any experience with polymer, but for about $100-$200 more, PSA always has a sale. I love my Palmetto State Armory AR-15

  • @bare-footjo35
    @bare-footjo35 Před 11 měsíci +4

    You could try Ian McCollum's, from Forgotten Weapons, polymer rifle. The WWSD ultralight carbine.
    It's manufactured by KE Arms using the KP-15 monolithic polymer lower. I'm not sure if the upper is polymer or not though.

    • @drmaudio
      @drmaudio Před 11 měsíci +2

      The upper is a standard aluminum. I have two KP-15s. They run great and can stand up to a good deal of abuse. An important difference is that they have a fixed polymer stock, so you eliminate the problematic interface at the buffer tube.

  • @hasgunwilltravel6840
    @hasgunwilltravel6840 Před 10 měsíci +1

    My step dad has one in 300 blk. After throwing away the stock mag, using pmags, and replacing the trigger with a timney it’s worked great the little I shot it (only like 200-300 rounds). He doesn’t shoot but maybe 50 rounds a year combined through all his guns so will last him forever . He just buys guns, ammo, and accessories, then shoots like 5 rounds through it then lets me shoot a little sometimes.

  • @aliceburte9278
    @aliceburte9278 Před 10 měsíci

    Always great info 👍🇺🇸

  • @akcustom7838
    @akcustom7838 Před 7 měsíci

    I don't even know why someone would consider this option. Just get a sub $400 AR at PSA, they are on sale there all the time. Sure its not a Danial Defense but I have one from PSA that cost $350 and it has ran flawless. Made in America with great warranty. It's a no brainer.

  • @prongATO
    @prongATO Před 11 měsíci

    One of the few people that their assessment is the gospel for me.. TY

    • @prongATO
      @prongATO Před 11 měsíci

      @Warriorpoetsociety- nice try scammer

  • @djbray7
    @djbray7 Před 11 měsíci +5

    My buddy has one. I genuinely think it's a fun el cheapo gun, but it's scary in the long term. I feel like the pins will walk, the plastic metal/binding does not seem ridiculously rigid, the handguard mating up with the barrel, the castle nut as he described, etc.

    • @themightycrixus1131
      @themightycrixus1131 Před 11 měsíci

      About 1000 rounds in for me, the only thing bad that happened was my gas block came loose which is a maybe $10 fix.

  • @Joel.Leavelle
    @Joel.Leavelle Před 9 měsíci +3

    I'd really like to see you make a video with Hoffman Tactical, who designed the Orca 3d printed AR15. Leaps have been made with the 2A 3D printing community, and I'd argue Hoffman is among the leaders in innovative design. It would be a cool spotlight on the community, showing the advancements made by comparing some of the earlier designs, and talk about the challenges that spurred changes that led to the current iteration. Maybe some stress and accuracy testing, as well as talking about improvements that could be made going forward without losing the ability for it to be made by the average citizen in spite of a tyrannical government, which I would argue is the most important aspect of 3d printed arms.

  • @northeastrebel439
    @northeastrebel439 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Ive heard mixed reviews about these omni hybrids so this should be interesting..

  • @alhovde19
    @alhovde19 Před 11 měsíci +4

    To be fair the first thing you should have done was properly torque and stake the castle nut. Then properly torgue the barrel nut and handguard clamp screws (with loctite).
    THEN throw them in the dumpster.

  • @brandtjustsayin
    @brandtjustsayin Před 11 měsíci +3

    Picked up a Radical Firearms 5.56 AR w/metal upper and lower, m-loc handguard, mil-spec trigger, etc for $379 on sale a few weeks ago. After shipping and FFL transfer fees it was just slightly over $400 total for a well equipped hand-off or SHTF rifle.

  • @robertshearer6573
    @robertshearer6573 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Ive had great luck out of PSA, and Bear Creek Arsenal, had an ATI omni and finally changed everything out or other parts, so now my ati is actually a Frankenstein gun made out of many different companies including PSA, BCA, AERO Precision, Bravo company, midway usa, and CMMG. And honestly its the best running ar that i have. But i do like building them myself.

  • @jocularitch1231
    @jocularitch1231 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I have 2 lowers from Tennessee Arms that have worked really well. The one hasn't seen a lot of rounds yet, but the other has had several thousand. Like, John, mentions the upper is what takes the force. Might not mean much coming from me, but I recommend Tennesse Arms if you're looking for a polymer lower. I haven't tested the durability by throwing em around or jumping on them, but there are videos of them being run over by trucks.

  • @denniscrouch1711
    @denniscrouch1711 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I've owned the ATI Omni in 5.56 for roughly 5 years. I use Magpul magazines with Federal ammunition. I have to say I haven't had many issues with it. A couple of slight hiccups, but nothing to cry about. It is, after all, a budget gun. I shoot out to 100 yards at times, shooting groups around 7 inches. I've done many, many mag dumps with it. For what it is, I like it. Oh, I use Balistol to keep it lubed up. I also paid $320.00 at the time. Great video, by the way!

  • @lancesmith5313
    @lancesmith5313 Před 11 měsíci +2

    KE Arms has good reviews on their polymer lower and WWSD rifles.

  • @frankstabler1920
    @frankstabler1920 Před 11 měsíci

    I have the 5.56. It came with the loose barrel that you found. I sent it back for repair (lifetime warranty). Since it came back I have had only one stoppage in several hundred rounds and it was caused by a blown primer in a batch of Lake City surplus ammo.

  • @davidhague1619
    @davidhague1619 Před měsícem

    Bought a Ruger AR556 in 2020 for just north of 600 and for a budget AR it has been GREAT. A little overpasses,it has been 100 % reliable

  • @duckduckglowie9619
    @duckduckglowie9619 Před 11 měsíci

    Much love every one !

  • @matthewhegstrom8478
    @matthewhegstrom8478 Před 10 měsíci

    I got the pistol version just for fun and never had any problems with it. I would not bet my life on it but, to have around for plinking is fine.

  • @AllAboutSurvival
    @AllAboutSurvival Před 11 měsíci

    Great concept but I have seen quite a few from my friends that have been sent back because there are problems. But if i had chance, i would definitely try one out though

  • @jasonmerrifield6342
    @jasonmerrifield6342 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I bought an ATI a few months ago, couldn't pass it up for the price. So far I haven't had any problems out of it and certainly not loose parts or anything. So far I'm a thumbs up for the most part. I do plan to change the upper on mine tho just for sence of mind.

  • @diyrob6563
    @diyrob6563 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks John, for all the informative and entertaining content. " Sniffing like Hunter in the White House," lol literally.
    A polymer upper scares me.
    I purchased one of the early ATI polymer lowers after watching an advertisement where they ran over the unit with a truck, and it didn't break, but aluminum ones did.
    I have seen people have had trouble with the lowers cracking in the rear where the buffer tube threads on, but so far, mine hasn't. That being said, I have probably run less than 1000 rounds through it. I have since purchased a second AR-15 with a forged lower.

  • @richardoliver1468
    @richardoliver1468 Před 5 měsíci

    Back in February of this year I bought the ATI MilSport chambered in 5.56. The first time I shot it,it failed to eject, and tried to reload which caused a follow up round to get jammed. I cleared it and tried again, and once again had the same issue. Upon looking at one of the cleared casings, I noticed that ejector was actually chewing on the rim. I took it back to my FFL where I purchased it. They tested it using some of the Irma ammo I was trying. The issue was with the ammo. Since then I have had no more issues with any other ammo. I will be keep my ATI, and enjoy shooting it.

  • @scotticus26
    @scotticus26 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I have been running a ATI hybrid polymer lower with a 10.5 standard upper with no issues at all. It has a CMMG lower parts kit. It has eaten every round I’ve fed it.

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 Před 11 měsíci

      thats vastly different compared to this though.

  • @libertycosworth8675
    @libertycosworth8675 Před 11 měsíci

    Ok John... That testing using the costume suit of armor was absolutely hilarious....

  • @TsandLman
    @TsandLman Před 11 měsíci +1

    I see others making the same recommendation, but here's another vote for the KP-15 lowers from KE Arms. I picked one up a couple months ago, and I've been trying out some different uppers. I did get some failures to lock back on an empty mag when firing 55 gr through an upper tuned for 77 gr, but I suspect that might resolve itself after the buffer spring has cycled a few hundred more times. .300 BLK ran flawlessly with everything from 110 to 220. (Yes, ATF, it was a 16" barrel on the lower with a fixed stock.) So far, I'm pleased. It's a very light lower and it seems very sturdy.

  • @RoninOperator
    @RoninOperator Před 10 měsíci

    I have one in .22lr run the upper on my binary trigger and it is a kick. My daughter has a ball!

  • @rbbeac
    @rbbeac Před 11 měsíci

    Try a lower from Tennessee Arms. I have built a couple with them and they work great.

  • @user-bq2hk5qt5s
    @user-bq2hk5qt5s Před 10 měsíci +1

    Because we keep coming back for more. Think and about that.

  • @drysori
    @drysori Před 11 měsíci +1

    The KP-15 polymer lower is a very high quality piece of kit IMHO. I would be skeptical of a polymer AR upper.

  • @joehuff4025
    @joehuff4025 Před 11 měsíci

    Bought one of these 2019, 7.5 inch gun, so far it’s still running pretty well but it’s really a range toy. I live close to PSA plus we have some local gun builders in my area so I can get a great deal on some well built guns. Now is the time to stockpile, price is right, right now.

  • @adamjohnson6506
    @adamjohnson6506 Před 7 měsíci

    That crazy I have an Omni hybrid 7.5in pistol I never had an issue with it. I didn't like the pistol configuration with 556 caliber so I made it a carbine and used quality parts like brownells wylde barrel, new blitzkrieg Nickle boron bcg, act trigger group and more quality parts. I love the polymer receivers, but I would recommend just buying the receivers and building around them the only parts original to mine are the upper and lower and the forward assist everything else has been changed. And I would recommend lots of oil if she ain't spitting she ain't happy lol

  • @terryderush2657
    @terryderush2657 Před 10 měsíci

    Now we know. Thanks 👍

  • @Normjohanson
    @Normjohanson Před 6 měsíci

    I built one from parts. After a bit of fitting it runs pretty well. The upper has a metal insert in the front for the barrel nut to retain the extension. I lapped the inside of the upper and the front of the receiver true. The lower also has a metal insert in the rear to mount the buffer tube. It needs set screws to keep the pins from walking out, but they provided them and it works.
    I cannot attest to them properly assembling the components, but the components I have used are nice and light with a bit of polishing. I run all my AR rifles dry with milspec ammo for 500 rounds. In the old days it was important to run 500-1000 rounds through a gun to break it in.
    The boutique rifles can skip this process because they're fantastically built by good well trained armorers.

  • @tylerbennett3057
    @tylerbennett3057 Před 2 měsíci

    Acquired one very cheap, and I had the same experience with the barrel fitment and barrel nut torque concern. I sent it in, and ATI did the repair and a "once over" very quickly. I can torque down a barrel /castle nut, but I'm not gonna chance messing up the Plastic Fantastic. With light grease on the BCG, i haven't had a stoppage since it's return from service. (About 500 rounds post repair, Gen 2 Pmags, and only brass cases)

  • @darrellcollins877
    @darrellcollins877 Před 11 měsíci

    Mine works well . I did have to replace the ejector, it does not have high quality parts in it, but if you have knowledge of an ar-15 you can tweak it some and have a good rifle. Certainly not a choice to carry in battle, but it can serve a purpose. Accuracy is fine

  • @walterbryan1798
    @walterbryan1798 Před 9 měsíci

    This is the first I have heard of a polymer lower AND upper AR-pattern rifle.
    I considered a polymer lower at one time, but a trusted friend persuaded me to stay with metal.

  • @jughead8988
    @jughead8988 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I built a AR with a ATI lower to cut weight so my granddaughters could shoot it easier. Its ran fine for the past 5 years but i spent all the money on the upper and barrel.

  • @jimziogas8978
    @jimziogas8978 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I like the concept. WWSD has good ideas with that lower too. Carbon fiber is also interesting.

    • @noahbama3308
      @noahbama3308 Před 10 měsíci

      James Madison Tactical (JMT) made a very nice carbon fiber 80% lower. They were much easier to mill out than the Polymer80. Unfortunately, they stopped making them when the owner recently passed away.

  • @rhinolife13
    @rhinolife13 Před 11 měsíci

    I have 2 of the older models. They do not like steel ammo and I have not had issues with using oil on them. With the ones I own the barrel does not have the looseness in the barrel. Though definitely a budget AR it does what I need it too.

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand Před 11 měsíci +2

    I have a Bushmaster Carbon 15 I bought about 20 years back. I shot a couple thousand rounds through it with no problems. But I wound up making it a permanent 22 conversion because I didn't trust the poly upper for long-term 5.56 use.

    • @charlessalmond7076
      @charlessalmond7076 Před 11 měsíci

      Have one sitting in front of me with a little over 10k. Changed out the upper so I could put a 13" handguard on it. Original bbl., bolt, drop in rize armory trigger.

  • @doronspencer2177
    @doronspencer2177 Před 10 měsíci

    Oh great vid, BUT I have the 5.56 version and you could build your own on their site about 8-10 years ago. I have the best barrel, my own bolt carrier group and charging handle . Forward asset, metal pins , pined gas block, my our controls , and kept the trigger . Mine eats anything, has never failed and it more accurate then my service M4. So it's best to build it off of their parts kits

  • @axe609
    @axe609 Před 10 měsíci

    I have the older Omni with poly lower and aluminum upper, got it back in 2016 when it was the only option available. It shoots really well all considering. Only a few stoppages and those were at the start. I don't think I would ever want to shoot it supper hot. I have pounded 3 mags through it pretty quick and it was ok. My wife loves if because the weight. Had to go to the Christensen Arms CA-15 with carbon fiber barrel to find a quality rifle she like the balance of.

  • @kfsrmn
    @kfsrmn Před 11 měsíci

    I needed a light gun so I picked up an ETI that is running well so far. Hornady One Shot. Bridge the upper and fore end with a 1/2"X6" riser. Had to do this with my M&P 15-22 and thought it would need the same. Allows the use of standard scope rings and low mounts.

  • @elegymusic
    @elegymusic Před 11 měsíci

    my first AR was an ATI but with the aluminum upper and lower. I did end up changing the barrel, bolt carrier, and trigger though to something a little better. The price was about the same 600 out the door with fees. The cerekote is fine on the outside. Inside it did need to get used to smooth it out and did make it a bit rough to cycle. Ran fine out of the box. maybe just skip the polymer and go for the aluminum reciever.

  • @jonathanhollinger7524
    @jonathanhollinger7524 Před 11 měsíci

    I have Anderson lowers as well as Palmetto State Armory, but my favorite one's are Aero Precision.

  • @user-rs1fo2dd9b
    @user-rs1fo2dd9b Před 11 měsíci

    the medieval suit of armor + modern gun is a vibe

  • @dieselfrk13
    @dieselfrk13 Před 10 měsíci

    I love the idea of WWSD that Ian did from forgotten weapons

  • @StealthSueYou
    @StealthSueYou Před 11 měsíci +3

    Hey John, love your stuff, but WPS store could have better customer service! It's quite difficult to get in contact with someone. I love you stuff, but find it hard to get support at times. Please help!
    Love what you're doing!

  • @patrickward6386
    @patrickward6386 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Much love to the Warrior Poet Society, Personally I'll pass on a full polymer upper and lower. I'd rather deal with the extra poundage forgoing the polymer. Great video on what not to purchase.

  • @novemberlima1025
    @novemberlima1025 Před 11 měsíci

    I know you put the front sight post as humor and to get more comments but it was funny to watch move as you shot

  • @canjo4588
    @canjo4588 Před 9 měsíci

    Put many rounds through mine haven’t had one hickup yet shoots straight only thing I did do to mine was swop out the polymer safety the trigger group take down pins mine has metal in key parts like the stress points maybe I got lucky I still bust it out at the range and still runs good

  • @jgray4567
    @jgray4567 Před 11 měsíci

    I got an upper/lower combo from them and built a rifle with the intent to run it as a .22LR using a CMMG kit. No issues at all and it's a nice little plinker. As for whether I'd throw a BCG in it and fire off 5.56, eh... If my other rifles were lost in a boating accident, maybe? But it's FUN shooting it as a 22.

  • @weshayward7939
    @weshayward7939 Před 11 měsíci

    Pls review a WWSD rifle from brownels. I’d love to see your take on it.

  • @knightcustombuilds6988
    @knightcustombuilds6988 Před 10 měsíci

    Anderson Manufacturing enters the Chat!!

  • @nuclearfish010
    @nuclearfish010 Před 10 měsíci

    And too actually sometimes polymer can be stronger than cheaper metals as polymers bind together versus the cheaper metals may not be perfectly machined or casted

  • @loganbewley8859
    @loganbewley8859 Před 11 měsíci +3

    The WWSD 2020 by InrangeTV, and Forgotten Weapons seams to be the only polymer lowere that gets consistently good reviews.

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 Před 11 měsíci +1

      thats because the designer of that lower solved the main issue, which is the buffer tube connection point, by completely doing away with it. lowers are one thing, uppers.. completely different lol

  • @Successautodetailing
    @Successautodetailing Před 10 měsíci

    Didn't Beretta do an awesome job with the ARX series of polymer rifles? The ARX series has truly revolutionized the firearm industry with its innovative design and exceptional performance. Beretta's commitment to excellence is evident in every aspect of these rifles.
    The ARX series stands out for its use of advanced polymer materials, making it lightweight, durable, and incredibly versatile. Whether you're a professional shooter or a casual enthusiast, the ARX rifles offer unparalleled accuracy and reliability. The ergonomic design ensures a comfortable grip, allowing for precise aiming and swift target acquisition.
    One notable feature of the ARX series is its modular design, which allows users to easily customize and adapt their rifles to meet their specific needs. From different barrel lengths to adjustable stocks and rails for accessories, the ARX series provides endless possibilities for customization.
    Furthermore, the ARX rifles incorporate cutting-edge technology, such as an advanced piston-driven system, ensuring smooth operation and reduced recoil. This enhances the overall shooting experience, allowing for faster follow-up shots and improved control.
    Not only did Beretta excel in the design and performance of the ARX series, but they also prioritized user safety. The rifles are equipped with various safety mechanisms, including a secure ambidextrous magazine release and a reliable trigger system.

  • @calebneff5777
    @calebneff5777 Před 10 měsíci

    Windham makes a polymer rifle, and it’s dead in reliable. Also has a decent barrel. I no longer have one, but I had one for about 5 years. I trained hard with it and had 0 stoppages in maybe 2,000 rounds. I’d highly recommend it.