The TDR FAC Is Here! | Full Review & Accuracy Testing
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The Air Arms S410 is one of the most popular PCP airguns on earth, and this is its little brother, the S410 TDR. Up until recently, the TDR has only been available in sub 12 ft.lbs, but I've managed to het my hands on the new High Power or "FAC" version for testing. Man I love this gun!
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Another very nice review! I especially appreciated the comparison of shot count and the fact you were not shy about admitting to tweaking the S 510 Extra to obtaining your very solid performance. Keep up the great work! Virginia, USA
Thank you for sharing your evaluation. I really appreciate the fact you are extremely thorough and cover the various topics in depth. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Troy
hi from the UK.Excellent review. Covered everything very detailed.
Thanks for the review Matt....I just ordered one!!
Akron, Ohio USA.. Always enjoy your reviews Matt.
Another great video Matt. Thanks for the details. I'm currently researching PCP air rifles for purchase and l'm quite intrigued by the TDR FAC.
Wow talk about nice and early in the morning,but it is never a bad time to watch your videos.
What a lovely piece of kit! The 12 foot-pound model was lovely; this FAC-rated model takes it to another level. You added a lot of good insight here as well, Matt. People often forget that a lighter rifle means less stability. Great review- many thanks! Virginia/USA
At last someone who can do a decent review. Top man
great review. keep up the good work.
Great review matt, ,
Oh and love your vids by the way! Keep up the good work! 😊
Very nice informative video Matt, the fact you can pack the rifle away into such a small case that looks nothing like a rifle in a gun slip would make it a very good gun for pest control in sensitive areas though as you said the low shot count might be a problem if you are presented with a lot of targets.
i was looking for a rifle,and because of your review i'll get this gun. thanks mate!
good review man,from Florida in the USA
These are made about 8 miles from my house. I've one of these in 12ft being in the UK. You should have popped in for a cup of tea!
Hi Matt I'm from Australia no such things as silencers here we have very strict gun laws . Pcp Air rifles in this country not as big as other country's but is starting to grow I have a25 Marauder very accurate and powerful and I love it . As always another great video plenty of info .Cheers Dean.
As always nice review of the gun. The Air-arms rifles are very good. I have smahed bottles at 200m few years ago with my AAs410 xtra Fac in .22 and at that time this gun was unregulated,so very stable shots but only beween regular preasure/around 170-120Bar/. For distance at 50meters air-arms rifles does not need regulator,they are GREAT ! Regards Matt !
That's true, but after 50 yd with my s510 you'll get about 20 good shots only...
Yeah he has been a big champion for .20 cal for a long time, I have long been interested in the calibre.
The custom S410 he does is pretty sweet as well
hi from uk ... i think the 12 ft lb is for me of course i do like that i can shrink it into a case and so does not look like a gun case your carrying , people get spooky about such things ... nice review cheers
Certainly well made: I've had my s410 for over 10 years! Replaced the silencer with a Weihrauch though.
thanks Matt
Great Video Matt!, perhaps some tuning and regulator can achieve a great shot count?
i love watching your vids..channel worth watching sir..hello from philippines
nice one Matt. i personally think the 12ftlbs TDR is the better option to go for when buying a TDR, the reason for this is because you mentioned that its not a 100 yard gun so you will us it in short distance pesting like me shooting at the school and i think its more safe to shoot with a 12ftlbs rifle in a urban environment than with a 30ftlbs rifle. great video i really enjoyed it
+AirGunnerSA I love the 12 ft.lb version, and that's a very good point. I think this one will be really nice for shooting hares and springhares though!
Yeah i thinks so to nice rifle that
+AirArmsHuntingSA hi my brother just got a new gun it is a 177 claver it shoots beautiful
Good honest review Matt. I would like to see how the tdr performs with a regulator and adjusted slightly down from 30 fpe to about 18 - 20 fpe. It should cure the string issue making for a nice flat string but I wonder what the shot count would look like.
I guess it's kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to stream new tv shows online ?
This is one of those rifles begging to be regulated. It continues to annoy me that manufacturers push out high priced rifles that are effectively half finished, a regulator fitted during manufacture would cost very little, yet make rifles such as this so much better. That said out of all PCP's I have worked on / shot, I have found that the Air Arms brand (in sub 12 ft/lbs at least) has a far more usable power curve.
I would love to know how to adjust the hammer spring on an S410 on a FAC model. Am in the US; would actually beneficial to see quality sub 12ft/lbs pcps avalible with good shot count
Unless I am mistaken, suppressor rules in the US only apply to powder burners and not air-rifles. Worth checking on perhaps.....! I like the gun.......!
I'm not 100 persent sure but I thought if the suppressor was spot welded on to the barrel so it couldn't be removed you were ok. I remember someone telling me that if you can take it off and use it " once " on a powder burner your'e in trouble. I guess I'm going to do some research to find out.
Suppressors are completely legal in almost all U.S. states(42 states). If you can legally own a firearm, then you can purchase a suppressor/silencer. There is a fee and a waiting period unfortunately. The good news is that in all likelihood, the law will be repealed soon.
Great channel!
Dang, 5 years later and nothings changed.
I think you have done the s410 TDR FAC a disservice regarding it's accuracy... because of the scope cam you were using.... you weren't holding the rifle... yes it was on a bipod but you did not have that weapon under control... so to conclude it is just a bit recoilly and is accurate if shot like 99.9% of users will. It is very easy to see how a FAC air rifle can move before the pellet has left the barrel in the situation you have shown. X
Hey Matt, howzit here from Scotland, its been a while since we last spoke. Its great to see how far you have come with your channel, awesome job.
I was wondering if you could see Louis if he could install a regulator in that TDR will flatten the curve quite a bit.
Also check out Ben Taylor and Son(BTAS)air rifles in the UK, Ben does and awesome job installing regs in AA guns and giving them a sweet all over tune.
Cheers
I thought of installing a reg in the TDR, but I just can't afford it at the moment. I have no doubt that I could get 50+ shots from this gun with a reg installed
I'm a big fan of Ben Taylor and what he has contributed to the Airgun world
Can you do review on a new S510 Carbine Ultimate Sporter next video...?
Is it better to have an FX or a cricket rifle for you and the difference between them in strength, accuracy, performance and a few faults
Cool review matt. I jut wanted to mention accuracy wise don't you think you regulated s510 could be the reason for your tighter groups too as there is a lower deviation of fps in between shots?
I don't think it would make a noticeable difference over 5 shots.
Hi Matt, I'm from Holland and we also have no power restrictions on airrifles. I had the same TDR in .22 cal 12flb but it disappointed me in many ways ! the loose and weird trigger, the case were only 1" scopes can be placed, but most of all.. The bolt.
I had to move the bolt very hard in forward position when loading a pellet, otherwise it get stuck all the time .. Very annoying, overall is is a very nice rifle ! But those little things made me sell it. Groeten vanuit Nederland Cas
Don Casparov
Hallo Cas, mag ik vragen waar jij de TDR gekocht hebt? En zou je deze afraden vanwege de problemen die jij hebt ervaren?
Tristan CF hoi Tristan, de buks is gekocht bij luchtbuks.com.
Mooi geweer maar te duur imo, zoals ik al aangaf is de hele laadcyclus een drama, het klopt gewoon niet. De anshutz rail liet bij mij al los met een harris bipod. De trekker zelf vind is wel een van de slechtste punten, totaal geen gevoel en er zit een heel naar veertje wat kraakt.. Kreeg er kippevel van haha.
Erg mooi geweer maar imo veel te duur voor wat je krijgt. Nu zon €1150,- kaal!
Don Casparov
Ik dacht zelf ook al dat dit geweer te mooi is om waar te zijn, vooral hoe Matt hem aanprijst. In dit filmpje laat hij inderdaad zien hoe tenger dat veertje achter de trekker eruitziet. Welk geweer zou jij aanraden onder de €1000.- ?
Ik ben nieuw op het vlak van luchtdrukgeweren, maar er zijn zoveel opties en ik weet niet welke het best is.
Tristan CF ja dit is gewoon promo materiaal joh, je krijgt ook geen antwoorden aangeZien hij airarms ambassadeur is.
Ik raad je aan om te kijken op de beste site van NL, wwe.luchtbuks.net
Daar zitten alle specialisten op het gebied van luchtschietsport die je goed kunnen helpen.
de keuze van een geweer hangt af van dicipline,budget,wensen,etc
Voor pcp is bv een AAs400 ook prima. Ikzelf ben gek van Theoben, nu Impactair genaamd. FX is ook een goed merk! Zat smaken maar kijk even op de site die ik zei, daar zul je een hoop leren ! ikzelf ben daar ook actief.
Mvg cas
hello from California
Hmm, I've never heard of silencers being illegal for air rifles in the states. I can't speak for every state, but I know there is nothing federal that would prevent it as a blanket law and it's legal here in North Carolina.
Been wanting one of these for a while. Wondering if the magazine cycles some of the longer pellets smoothly. My Ataman magazine will simply not take some of the longer brands like the polymags and jsb heavies, which is really frustrating because my rifle likes them both. They get jammed in the magazine when I cycle it.
very exactly
I would love u to do a review of the bsa super 10 mk 1. But probably will never happen as youve got better guns.
I'm planning to review a friend's BSA Sorpion soon
connecticut USA, Saying hi.
Where can I buy one
Let's see how many folks will tell you where they're from, ...... I'm in Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada.
I have a question here Matt, you've probably told us before, but what is the make and model of the Scope that you are using in this video ?
I like this video a lot,..there is a lot of information here, and it's a great rifle review. Thanks.
It looks like a Hawke Sidewinder. Btw I'm from BC
+Reg Sparkes Hi Reg, great idea about posting where everyone's from! The scope is a Hawke Sidewinder by the way
+Reg Sparkes Norway
Wyoming
+Reg Sparkes Mongolia
Muito bom essa carabina prar transportar ela é primeira
Its a new gun as well mate....needs leading in😊
Hi From scotland
اشكد احبه بس أخ النقود
I have an Air Arams S410 rifle, but I ran into a problem as I pulled the trigger in the middle and immediately accepted the shot, which caused me to hear a sound whenever I raised the rifle or down. I don’t know Can you help me? Thank you.
you have to buy a very very expensive permit but if you want to it could be worth it
Matt what bipod is that on there?
Matt I'm from Arizona. I saw you cooking in the SA heat, for better or worse I think our climates are a lot alike. Question: do you have plans to regulate the S410 TDR FAC to correct the fps consistency, how difficult/expensive would that be?
+Michael Neumeyer The heat isn't too bad here on the coast - But yes, the climate is very similar to Arizona! I don't have plans to regulate it yet, I will see how it goes for a few months before making that decision. It isn't too difficult, and it would probably set you back about $120
+AirArmsHuningsa. love the S410 take down and $120 is not bad for the added performance. BTW we're waaaaay inland, our hot days are 118°F+. thanks for the info, Cheers!
How do I put the power up on my s410 tdr
There is a way of getting a suppressor in the US. The legal way is very expensive,not worth it for one that is only "air" rated. In many states they are outright banned.
I want to combine the laws of a few countries so we all can have the best of both worlds so to speak.
Greece
Hey Matt i was wondering what flip up scope caps you had on your sidewinder in the video at 19:00. It looked like they screwed into the sunshade and eye piece threads. All i have seen are slip on ones but yours seem like a better design. Thanks.
+Matthew Chasten The new Sidewinders come standard with flip up caps - It's a huge improvement!
Thanks guys i will give them a call
is it a .22 or a .177
put head on the stok thats why ! i got 410 tdr and it is very ack !! same as s510 so dont lison thay borth the same
maan you look like Vaas from Far cry 3 :D good video
what do you think is better lead pellets or pba pellets from gamo? please write back and keep the good work up!
Definitely lead. PBA pellets are a gimmick, they carry very little energy and fly too fast to remain stable
Definitely lead! Gamo pellets are quite possibly the worst pellets on the planet
which one would you propose to someone the sub 12ftlb or the FAC TDR?
Personally with this gun I'd go with the sub 12 pound version. With the size of this gun and air reservoir it only makes sense
Oh.. Sorry! Florida USA
Nice job matt, but regulate guns are the future and Air Arms really needs to step up. You have proven it yourself, you're 510 shot good unregulated, but shoots much better now that its regulated.
True, I wish I could regulate my s510...
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It's my understanding that here in Th US if a surpressor is integrated into the barrel so that it can't be removed it's no problem. Otherwise to have one is a pain. It's dumb.
+223rocks It's a bummer...And I suppose there would be little point fixing it to the barrel because it wouldn't fit into the case anymore.
Yeah I really wanted a q-Tec silencer but couldn't get it because of our laws...
Silencers are very common here in uk
Ok thx close enough
I totally understand why people living in other countries want more power than 12 ft lbs. We can buy more powerful air rifles in the UK as long as you get a licence.
However I'm a fan of what we can get over here purely down to the shot count.
17 useasble shots!! Seriously restrictive if you're hunting.
Most sub 12ft lb rifles give you more that 200 now, especially regulated rifles like the new Wildcat :-)
Many of the high power rifles can give you 120+ shots. It's just this one that is particularly bad in that department
Is there a way to "convert" my standard s410 tdr into a FAC version?
I bought it about a year ago when the FAC did not exist :(
Possibly, but you may need to drill out the transfer port which would require some expert help
Possibly, but you would need a new hammer spring and you'd need to drill out the transfer port
MrPeregrines ebay
if you ever want to sell tdr let me know
The Daystate AirWolf has by far the best bolt action of any PCP.
im new to airguns but u gotta sub outta me for how thorough you are for newbies to understand. thanks
I have to ask your forgiveness my man as I'm really jealous of your rifles.
only 240p?
Who cares? Not like you're paying for the video
I have a Benjamin discovery and I was going to upgrade to a bt65 but decided instead to upgrade my discovery. Anyone know where I could buy a bull pup stock for it
Get the hatsan instead, more power and accuracy
+CA Airgunner wouldn't that cost more because my long goal is a wildcat and I would like to spend the least money on my next airgun upgrade
If you want the wildcat then I'd say just save up for it instead of putting money into the discovery. Adding a bullpup stock won't make it more accurate then it already is. The hatsan was an improvements but the wildcat is a huge upgrade!
+CA Airgunner yea I know he bullpup stock won't make it more accurate I just love bull pups, hint why I want the wildcat, but it will be awhile till then and I have gotten a lot more air gunning opportunitys latley and I would like a gun the performs a little better but thank you
It may be awhile but it'll be worth it, it took me like 4 months to save for my air arms s510 and it was worth the time.
Hi ,funny to see u with AA,, Fx rules matt .great work u doing.
yes, it is a good one. He knows what's up.Q)😭 How do you stop a bad guy with a BB gun? A)here in America- with a GOOD guy with a BB gun!😨👻
ok matt will you consider a fx wildcat .25 caliber a 100 yard rifle??
?(New Year?)
410 verses 510. Mechanics diff.
whastn´t the 510 a left hander?? and isn´t at cheap looking ( the spring behind trigger ) ??
will you ever use a delta fox gamo 177cal
When you are over here everything is done federal and government
17 shots is unacceptable.
and woe partner come but once in your channel as a big fan her ... but I wanted to know if you have how you make a gift of a rifle to me? if possible please I do not have conditions to buy a .... I live in Brazil earned ...
Will u let me buy this gun(hand-over)of your at affordable price?😄
Pls hit me back
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im early
+darthbot /dagodz 90th person 6 minutes
you can't be serious.. WHAT recoil?!?!/ that's extremely timid man
This thing is trash! Not worth the $$$$. Benjamin Marauder pistol/carbine is a much better option. Is smaller, equally accurate, more powerful, can be configured for as a pistol or as a carbine, extra magazines cost 1/8 of the AirArms’ magazine cost and the whole gun costs half as much. I enjoy it a lot!
Yes due to design of air arms magazine rotate by rod at chamber, and marauder simplify use spring tension to rotate.