Swede here and we can seem direct because we don't look at titles when addressing people. I was in a business meeting with Americans and had two of my employees with me and one on them asked the American CEO questions directly during the meeting, the CEO looked at me like "When are you going to punch your employee in the face for speaking to me?". After the meeting one of the americans tried to explain to me the "right" way to talk to people that are "better" than you. I just looked at him and said "Welcome to Sweden!"...
Finn agreeing this, at work place people address boss exactly same as anyone else. No need to do extra a-kissing. For example, what I have noticed is that people greet cleaning workers the same way as anybody else at the work place.
There's little bit of "... and then everybody clapped"-energy to that anecdote, but knowing the social culture and the emphasis on a flat organisational structure in companies here in Sweden as well as having been through some situations that rang similar in retrospect I believe all of it. I was at a meeting where the head of product development was talking about and demonstrating a new piece of tech in conjunction with a service that a company I was working at were going to start offering the customers. I didn't say it in so many words, but I asked the guy a very pointed, and to anyone working closer to customers, obvious question that made him look quite stupid 😅He didn't have an answer and just mumbled something about "That's a very good question, we'll have to look into that". And my teamleader gave me a pat on the back after the meeting, and a "Good question there, I like it.". So yeah, no need to feel hesitant about speaking your mind in the Nordics. So yeah, if you have a good piece of info to add to a discussion you ought to share it.
As a Dane I also think it's a question of respect, but opposite to how Americans would consider it. You speak directly to people you respect and you mince your words to those who're sensitive for one reason or another or literal children.
Very reasonable. Socialism, just like market economy, is a greyscale. No boolean variable or dichotomy. We were socialist to a higher degree than USA, especially before the 1980s. USA is much more leftist today, and Sweden had some extreme liberal reforms in the 1990s. But the society is still largely socialist. It's a mix, just like in China.
@@herrbonk3635 I know that some people like to use the terms like a sliding scale. I personally find that very misleading. However you want to use these terms, there is NO case to be made that any of the Nordics, let alone Sweden, has a socialist economic model, and to compare it to China is just absurd. It is true that the social democratic model of private enterprise and public services has it's roots in the early socialist tradition, but that is not to be confused with saying that this model constitutes a socialist economy. You might say that social democracy is a compromise of sorts, between the liberal free market model and the command economy of the USSR. I would argue that it actually derives more from early welfare models in capitalist economies like the US, UK, Germany and the Nordics themselves, and can thus also be seen as a continuation of a social-liberal tradition, but early social democrats did see a kind of socialism as their ultimate end-goal. That is not the case today. In the end, social democracy is a political project built ontop of the foundation of a free market economy. China, even with all of it's reforms, is still a command economy of sorts. It is the Inverse of a Sweden or a Norway; elements of free market capitalism built into a command economy (socialist model). These are fundamentally different, and describing them both as just "mixed economies" does a diservice to the social democratic model and all of it's accomplishments.
actually the Nordics are not "Social democracies" and yes Americans often used that term about the Nordics , each country in the Nordics is diff. from each other so I'm not sure how every country will describe themselves , however in Denmark our system is called "Social Liberal" because that is the center of the political spectrum in Denmark , Socialdemocrats are a political party on the left not the name or ideology of our country as such , you can say it was between 1960-1980 where the Socialdemocrats dominated the policies
I think this happiness ranking was locked older than than the war. The war is only been going on for just a couple of months., I know that there’s always been problems in the Middle East, but with Palestine but not the way it’s been now
We kinda cherry picked capitalism and socialism. Which is why it worked. Neither system actually works so cherry picking the best parts that work and don't colide = Nordic model
It’s not really that complex. Balance the interest of as many stakeholders as possible, to generate overall productive incentives and avoid unproductive conflict.
Swedes got one rule: We dont care who you are, or how high or low you are. We will adress you as we see fit. Its part of the "Jante" law. Regarding happiness ranking, I believe its a number made up from social security, economics/ education and how long we live - not necceccary how happy we feel in politics. From an international standpoint - we've been open to immigrants, with the baltic war and eastern workers. We hit a low in 2010 and forward due to terrorism and culture shock form the middle east - and its definitly a work in progress to fix public perception and the gang related issues, but by large and all we're a progressive country that welcome people. We will just not talk to anyone 😂
Its BS about janteloven, its from a book with a town called jante, which has 10 laws. Stop trying to plaster it as something people in the scandinavian countries worship and follow. We simply dont
About free healthcare: - my own story: About 4 years ago I saw a kind of blur over right eye. Monday morning I went to the doctor. He suspected a retinal detachment. So he sent me to a specialist. He made the appointment for me. I took the bus an arived early afternoon. THe specialist confirmed the diagnosis an sent me to the hospital, where they specialize in eye operations. I took a taxi to the hospital, was examined and ordred to come the next day at 7.00 next day. At 11.00 am I was operated. It saved my sight on my right eye. Took a taxi home in the afternoon with my wife. Cost around 4 fares by taxi (around 40$) - Im happy to pay about about 35% in taxes
Hello, Eivind! Yes, that's how it works here in Finland, too! Your tax is quite okay. The average tax in Finland is some 30% on a salary of about 3,000 euros a month. That's pretty steep, but it has been going up and down over the last 50 years. There are of course all kinds of deductibles... Myself, as a pensioner with a pension of approximately 2,778 euros a month, I pay 20% in taxes. In euros, my total monthly taxes comes to 463 euros. For this sum, I get personal benefits worth many times more and I contribute towards paying for the benefits of everybody else and towards society as a whole, towards the payment of all those things that you don't see or realize that exist in the city, municipality, county and the country as a whole. As your income increases, so do your taxes. In various online videos about the high taxes in the Nordic countries, percentages of 57% have been tossed around for Finland. Totally wrong. The average is 30 to 33%, and disappears entirely if you earn less than a very modest amount. As I understand it, the percentage of 57 is the highest tax payable and it only concerns the marginal tax, that is, 57% is applicable only to the overlapping amount that somebody earns on top of their ordinary tax bracket. In short, to say that the tax in Finland is up to 57% is not correct. (As this is rather complicated, I hope that I've understood it more or less correctly...I haven't checked. A case in point: I have a good friend, aged 80, who has had cancer for many years and has received treatment for it. As her prognosis has been good, she has been receiving monthly injections of a new drug that costs 3,000 or 5,000 euros a pop. Not exactly at a bargain basement cost. But she, herself, hasn't had to pay a single cent. That's where our shared taxes go, among a lot of other worthy causes.
Not everyone is that lucky though... When I had kidney stone and was in really severe accute pain, I was just sent out in the snow again without even being allowed to see a doctor. It actually happened two times, with 5-6 days in between. Just as an example.
@@Gittas-tube not anymore in Helsinmi, who refuses to hire qualified doctors and nurses and have ridiculous rules like antibiotics are not given if the crp is unger 50. Ever! So good luck for dying from sepsis due to untreated infection in your toe!
I believe he's talking about how the nordics can come across as rude and direct in a professional environment, especially to people who are used to a more strict hierarchal work environment. The nordics often have a very flat hierarchal structure in their workplaces and are accustomed to not having to use a "chain of command" when expressing ideas or grievances.
@@zaph1rax Reminds me of seeing a youtuber from united states, lovely guy and all. But whenever his teenager kids show up in a video they always call him "sir". And it just feels *so* wrong. Not calling your dad 'Dad', what is this, the military?
we are introverts and laid back,and we value personal space and we respect the personal life of other people,and yes we are direct and to the point we don't like small talk,we also dosen't like talking to strangers,some people take that as being rude,that is just our culture,no offence intended.
No nation is purely built on one set of values though, not even the USA, their most celebrated institution, the military, happen to have a socialist structure as an example. Unlike the USA that have tried to force capitalism on most of its sectors otherwise, including education, health care, and even their penal system, the Nordic countries have a social take on those sectors while leaving capitalism solely to the one thing it's good at: the market sector that handle supply and demand. The Nordic model is a healthy mix of socialism, capitalism, and liberalism, not a pure example of any of them. If anything, USA have only proven that too much capitalism result in qualities of a corporatocracy.
@ShadowTani Exactly, we are a mixed economy with strong socialistic roots, that protect markets that should not be privatized and profit-driven from capitalism and corporatism abusing them for private enrichment, that only goes in one direction. Trickle-down economics doesn't work, and USA is proving it.
@@herrbonk3635 China is communist though. While related, the differences between socialism and communism are still significant. China is argued to lean towards stalinism (a more destructive and oppressive form of communism), but the CCP like to paint themselves as something more moderate. Similarly they do not call their economy capitalistic, they call it socialist market economy (SME). But yes, most nations have a capitalistic market sector, including China (even if they insist otherwise). Still, you're right that there are bad forms of socialism as well, like Venezuela.
Hello, Dwayne! You're right. We're not socialist countries. We have a multiparty system which includes a social-DEMOCRATIC party. The guy is American and they have no idea of what a social democratic party is, nor what socialism is. It's too complicated for them. They have no clue.
And the simple fact we have multitude of parties who anyone can vote freely, instead of just two thoroughly corrupt power hoarders smearing and lying about EVERYTHING. Absolutely everyone can read several languages and comprehend all kinds of complicated topics, way too multifaceted for an average american thinking in polar opposites.
Well the war on communism left a deep scar in their society, if you spend many decades under both corporate and government propaganda, almost everything turn into communism... or at best socialism, which is considered the same thing for a large part of their population. Honestly when i lived over there i spoke with a guy who had his life ruined by medical debt and he was constantly complaining about Bernie's desire to become like Denmark... 🤦♂
@@magnuscarlsson9969 👩🏻🌾🏞️🌅🇫🇮 Oh my. Deep sigh. What can one say other than that in reality U.S. citizens are denied many of the freedoms that are taken for granted in the Nordic countries, and elsewhere. We've come to realize how isolated the U.S. is. It hasn't been that obvious because of the ubiquitous presence of the popular culture and attention given to the States in Europe and in other parts of the world. We know a lot about them, while they know hardly anything about us. We speak several languages, while they only speak one (except those immigrants that speak English plus their own mother tongue, like Spanish, for instance.) As to the isolation, I've got three words for you: Education, education, education. That's where it starts. After that, comes all the rest. Without education, brainwashing becomes easy, there's no upward mobility, except in very special cases. Original and individual thoughts and opinions of an opposing nature to that preached to the masses have a hard time getting heard or considered. Besides, how can you discuss anything with people who don't know what you're talking about? So, education is number One. Number Two is Equality in all of its aspects. After that, you have the Law, Justice and Compassion. Followed by all the other freedoms that are made possible by the first Five. You could, of course, categorize them differently. No matter. Reality will show which ones make the other ones possible. I hope that you agree, or can see the point I'm trying to make, Magnus. In the Nordic countries it's frowned upon to brag, as you know. It's definitely not cool. So, we can only calmly note that the facts don't lie and leave it at that. P.S. What a fantastic summer we've had! 🏞️🌅🌲🌳🌷🌺🌹☀️🌤️🍓🍒🍎🍐🥝🫐🍊🍧🍦🍰🍺☕⛵⛱️🛵🪂🚣🏻♀️🚴🏻♀️
@@Gittas-tubedepends, what people want to see and not.. they have been idolised and looked up to, but not for what and who they are, but for what people think they are and stand for.. but it has been obvious for some..
Im from Sweden so naturally I lean towards choosing Sweden but really it doesnt matter which of the nordic countries you focus on. The nordic countries are just the best ;)
China agreed that their ship caused the data cable breach between Finland and Estonia last year. But that it was because of "bad weather" and accident. They really said something along the lines that it couldn't have been on purpose because Finland is not that important for China to care.
In Denmark we also have a model we call 'Flexicurity' (flexibility and security). The model guarantees that the employer easy can fire its employees with short termination notices, while there is an very active labor market policy and a strong social security net. This means that the companies gets flexible workers, while the workers have fair working conditions, without being in total economical ruins if you one day gets fired. This is a model that benefits both sides.
A termination notice for most Danes is from 3 months to 6 months - so it's not short as such. Besides that an employer needs a valid reason to terminate an employee.
Well, we are social democracies. I guess you could call that between capitalism and socialism. But by that definition many other European countries fall into that category as well.
I would say honest and direct. The Dutch also share this quality. As a Finnish person it's always a pleasure to work with them because you never need to second guess their opinions on something.
The "Nordic Model" are also called "The Middle Way" between capitalism and socialism. In Norway we often call it "The Norwegian House", which is fitting in the sense of running a country like a "household" which besides transactions also means to take care of each other. It is just how "Vikings" are, a thousand years later...hahah ;)
Social democracy, which the Nordic countries rely on for their success, is a very different thing than socialism and communism. Especially Americans seem to have a hard time understanding the differences between these concepts. The Nordic countries are not socialist and certainly not communist, we are social democratic, a successful form of capitalism.
Estonia and Sweden have a long shared history. Swedes historically setting up communities along the west coast. Swedish schools, Swedish cultural programmes, centuries of inter marriage and friendships. 1500s onwards was 150yrs or so of Swedish rule in Estonia. Sweden was a huge ally to Estonia during and post WW2 with aid and refugees. Swedish humanitarian aid to Estonia throughout the Soviet occupation. Estonian and Swedish vikings raiding each other. Greetings from Estonia.
Swede here, I think you should do Norway next. Their nature and enviroment is absolutely stunning! Love your videos and legitamate interest in our culture and way of living! We will welcome you with open arms when you visit!
maybe if the politicians wasnt talking in circles and actually answered yes and no and didnt try to speak for everyone else all the time (looking at you
Social vs socialist - I 100% agree. In many ways, we've actually beaten the US at their own capitalist game. As for the happiness indices, those reflect contentness more so than they reflect happiness
I'd love to have you guys here to talk to 🤗 Hope Dwayne makes more Norway related videos! (We Finns have been here with mostly just Swedes, we need some common sense to the discussion! 😉)
@johananas8407 Yikes! Sorry, Sweden dear! But I wanna play with Norway, too 🥺 Maybe we could all three have some fun together? 😇 (Seems like my first joke was too much for CZcams as it got deleted 😅🤭)
I think at the core of the Nordic model is meritocracy. But also to provide every individual with the possibility and support needed to be the best version of themselves, to everybodys benefit. I like the people I meet to be smart, happy, free/safe and healthy, made a career of it in fact. As we aren't that many we need to be at our best, always.
"I think at the core of the Nordic model is meritocracy." No, it's definitely isn't as every Nordic country have a democracy of people NOT based on merits but opinions. It's just that the administrations aren't as political as in most other countries.
China owns Volvo and have a lot of windmills in Sweden😠and they often try to tell us what to do. Putin didn’t want Sweden and Finland to join Nato, but then he should not have invaded Ukraine.Iran is keeping a sharp eye on there expats and so does Turkey, China Ethiopia and many other countries. That’s why so many are silent.
A common misunderstanding - they are not ranking people's actual feel of happiness, they are ranking the countries conditions, services and mechanisms to enable the people to become or feel happy. They are not asking from people in different countries that are you happy, because that would have a big probability to manipulate and lie the answer. The report says that the countries existing structures, laws, services, jobs, wealth being distributed fairly etc. etc. is creating the possibility for people to feel themselves happy of the Life conditions and future opportunities - not directly happy feelings like being in Love or in balance with themselves etc. The most of the Foreign countries twisted the study being of how happy people are feeling as an individual and their sum compared to other nations. Also the word HAPPY includes more in some languages than in other and different cultures understand the word HAPPY and what it covers differently. That's why they measure and compare, that in Finland everything existing in place offers one more possibility or probability to become happy than other countries, BUT does not ensure that that will happen to all people, because people also require different things an amounts to feel themselves happy..
I was born in Denmark and have lived here all my life. I got sick 12 years ago, got primary progressive sclerosis, and my back is worn out with 5 herniated discs and osteoarthritis. What I have been through from MRI scans, spinal cord and blood tests and a sea of examinations by specialists in the last 12 years.. I stopped counting a long time ago... I am now paid an early retirement pension every month by the Danish state . Which means that I can live for rent in an 80 m2 house with a carport and a huge garden... I am definitely grateful to have been born in Denmark, had I lived in a country other than Denmark, which had not had the same social network, I would probably have lived on the streets... If I had still been here ❤️🇩🇰 So love our beautiful old Denmark ❤️🇩🇰
Ok, the thing about "Janteloven", it's from a Danish novel by Axel Sandemose, "En flykting krysser sine spor". This is about a fictional place in Denmark, and this is not a positive thing. Just saying... :)
Precisely. I read the novel when I was younger and there is clearly nothing good about the Jante Law. Yet, over the last ten years or more, the concept has suddenly been turned round as being something good. Very bizarre.
True that, and any one who couldnt fit in the very small society and narrowminded as the town Nykøbing Mors was at that time, the thirthies, would invent the Jantelaw. The "law" is only teached by danish language teacher for foreigners. The jantelaw is a made up law which one dont have to follow.
@@hw-art It is not bizarre.. The Law of Jante is a condensation of the Danish/Nordic mentality and it is at the heart of why we thrive as nations and indivduals. In the novel it is simply turned into something negative because the main character feels it to be constraining.
Finland and Sweden have good relations, but are also competitive and have friendly banter between them. Hockey between the two is a big thing. Denmark has similar relations with Norway and Sweden, and an example of that is that Ikea (a swedish company) has their carpets named after Danish places so people all over the world are walking over Denmark.
We are actually very direct because we don't like talking, so we get straight to the point. Or at least Finns are like this. That's also very big reason why Finns get misunerstood easily, because we seem so rude even to eachother. You have no idea how many times I have cried because other person was so direct that I thought that I did something wrong 🤣
When i grew up we had "little Turku" just right next to us and many of my friends came from there. The kids acted just like any other kid my age, but the moment we went over to "little Turku" it felt like a cold shower everything became too strict and to the point, not to mention Finnish just sound "harsher" then Swedish, so it was a bit of a culture chock especially since Finn-Swedes mix both languages all the time. Funny story is that when i was younger i always swore in Finnish instead of Swedish, there's way more oomph in yelling Perkele then many equivalents in Swedish. I really like Finn's thou so it's more of this kind of brotherly nitpicking then anything else.
@@magnuscarlsson9969👩🏻🌾🇫🇮🇸🇪 Hi there, Magnus! I'm one of those Finland-Swedes (finlandssvenskar)! Swedish is my mother tongue, but I'm also totally fluent in Finnish, English, French - and not so fluent in German. Of course I also understand Norwegian pretty well, and written Danish. But when it comes to needing a really strong swearword, Finnish is the best! Perkele! And roll the R as much as you can! If I get REALLY MAD, I have a whole line of Finnish curse words, or how about these, all in a row: SAATANA, PERRKELE, V..., JUMALAUTA! 😂😂 It has a good rhythm to it, too. If you have some use for it, please be my guest! 😂
Dane here :) This is free -> ALL form of Healthcare, Education (get payed under education), maternity leave (Father and mother gets 24 weeks) and so on. And if we are direct? If you would ask me how i feel... I will tell you Honestly how i feel (keep in mind, I would also tell you if i feel if i feel sad, worried, mad and so on) In that way we are VERY direct. Not like Americans answering "fine thanks, and you".... Remember -> you asked :P AND WE ARE KNOWN FOR MANY THINGS!!! *Bluetooth (named after the Danish King Harald Bluetooth who ruled Denmark and Norway in the Viking age) *Vikings (we are the ones atacked england and at one point ruled whole of england aswell, and concored France, syria and meny more also beck then as i recall) *Vikings tv series ( Ragnar Lothbrok and the sons were real, and hailed from Denamrk) *HC. Andersen (the little mermaid, the emperors new clothes, The ugly duckling and so on and all the other stories) *LEGO (yup) and Many more things :)
The Swedish economy is built on capitalism, but because they are very wealthy, they tried at one point in the 1960s to adopt more socialist policies to give some of it back to the less fortunate, but they never aspired to try and become a socialist utopia that has failed many times for other countries in history. Swedes also have a very high trust in their institutions and politicians to take care of them, and of course a very high trust in each other and treat it like their family, so with a society like that, having some socialism works. They used to call this idea "Folkhemmet," or the People's Home. Today, the People's Home is a bygone time, but the trust culture is still very high. Today, Sweden is politically more centre-right with a conservative government while the social democrats struggle to keep up, and we see a rise in right-wing national conservatism, which represents the second largest political force in the country. When the world became more globalised, the flaws in socialist ideas quickly started showing, for example, in immigration. So you are right, Sweden has never been a socialist country; they are a capitalist country built on a culture of trust, equality and individualism.
The reason you say: "Who would have known" is because you both do talk and looks away from the video when you should be focused on listening and learning. Discipline and dedication is a nordic skill!
As a Swede I have to say that both Norway and Denmark have very good tv series. I just watched Gangs of Oslo, similar to Snabba Cash. Just a recommendation from me to explore Danish and Norwegian tv-series on Patreon.
This video was wrong about several things, for example the "Jante law" (8:02 and onwards). This was coined by the author Aksel Sandemose and it is actually the "laws" that will keep you down: Don't think you are anything special. Don't think you are as good as we are. Don't think you are smarter than we are. Don't convince yourself that you are better than we are. Don't think you know more than we do. Don't think you are more important than we are. Don't think you are good at anything.
THANK YOU! I'm so god damned tirsdag of people from both the nordics and elsewhere getting the whole jantelov thing ass backwards. It's embarrassing as hell. No the law of jante is a bad thing and no we do not follow the law of jante here. And if we do its not something to be proud of. Jeeeez
We have got rid of Chinese companies in infrastructure, not in individual phones. You will not find a Chines owned company supplying mobile cells, but you would never see us forbid anyone for freely buying legal products like a phone or car. Visiting Scandinavian countries you should visit both the south and the far north of them as there are huge differences in culture. You will find the northerners to be a lot more direct...
Actually it's not. When your standard of living reach a certain level, you don't get more happy if it goes up. It's like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Once a level is reached you need something else to move forward. If you are well feed you get little pleasure of a better steak. It might satisfy you here and now, but your overall happiness doesn't go up. The reason the Nordic countries are overall happy is that they are well feed, have good security and trust in their societies. They belong to a well defined group with little social distance between high and low in their societies. Their physiological and other deficiency needs are met with some room to spare and they can concentrate on personal growth.
I would probably say We here in Scandinavia are in some ways positioned in the Middle.., and we are close to having TRUE "Freedom of Speech" and not being "blocked" when speaking and expressing our views.. and that this is something leaders with a need to control and with a lot of power fears ! We can and are used to criticise toward either way of the spectrum.. and one other funny thing.. If we travel East we are often seen as Capitalists, If we travel West we are often seen as Communists,, :D / Peace to and for everyone !
Happy to jump on a call with you so we can confirm that your accusation of AI is nothing more than an accusation. Coincidentally, if you're going to insult the creators of content you're 'reacting' to, it just makes you look a bit silly. I understand that cadence is difficult to understand for someone who's at most learnt one language in their life. AI isn't under every rock you see, even though this is the new fad on youtube. Have a good evening.
He won’t do it, reaction channels like this are a dime a dozen and essentially leech off of proper content like yours. I wouldn’t bother with him, your videos are good, his is essentially just a long line of videos pretending to be interested in things and throwing accusations about AI around like it’s the new thing. I never understood people like this channel who keeps insulting the creators of the content they’re leeching from, when I’m reality they’re in a spot where they could be taken for copyright for every other video.
As with all these reaction videos it's usually just the people 'reacting' using the hard work of others to plug their patreon and donations links. It's like he's so far down the rabbit hole in regards to AI that he can't hear your thick Danish accent. If I was you I'd hammer this guy with a copyright strike, he's even streaming the music you've got licensed in his so called 'reaction'. He won't take your call, and he likely won't retract his BS statement either. Brits and Americans are just not very bright when it comes to language, you'll have to excuse him.
Yes, it is accurate to say that Sweden is a mix between socialism and capitalism, and that the country operates as a social democratic market economy where both capitalist and socialist solutions are applied to address societal issues. This allows Sweden to combine the benefits of both systems to create a society that values both economic growth and social welfare. One example of the capitalist elements in Sweden is the free market economy, where private companies are central to economic growth. Businesses are allowed to operate freely within the bounds of the law, and market forces such as supply and demand determine prices and production. Large Swedish companies like Volvo, Ericsson, and IKEA are global players thriving in this market economy. These businesses are privately owned, and their profits primarily go to shareholders, which is a hallmark of a capitalist system. There is also strong protection for property rights and a focus on innovation and entrepreneurship, encouraging individuals to start and grow new businesses. This is a key part of the capitalist structure, where growth and competition drive the economy forward. On the other hand, Sweden has a robust welfare system that is based on socialist principles of equality and social justice. The state provides a comprehensive range of publicly funded services, including education, healthcare, and elderly care. These services are available to all citizens, regardless of income, ensuring that everyone in society has access to essential welfare. The tax system is also progressive, meaning that those who earn more pay higher taxes. This is a way of redistributing wealth from the richest to those with less, aligning with socialist ideals of reducing economic inequality. Sweden also employs combined solutions that reflect a mix of both capitalist and socialist principles. For instance, the labor market operates under a system of cooperation between employers and unions, often referred to as "the Swedish model." Collective agreements between employers and employees ensure fair wages and working conditions. This represents a balance between capitalist ideas of corporate freedom and socialist values of workers' rights. Additionally, Sweden allows some private actors within welfare services such as healthcare, education, and elderly care, where private companies operate for profit but are regulated and funded by the state. This is an example of how capitalist principles can be combined with social goals to increase efficiency and choice within the welfare system, while still ensuring that basic welfare rights are protected. Another example can be seen in housing policy, where the state supports housing development and provides housing allowances for those in need, while there is also a private market for buying and renting homes. This mix serves different needs within the housing market by combining government measures with market solutions. Housing, like access to education and healthcare, is viewed as a fundamental human right, and the state takes responsibility to ensure that everyone has access to a decent standard of living.
You should learn more about Norway, as a Dane with a Norwegian mom, I can say it is one of the must beautiful country in the world. And like the rest of Nordic countries full of nice and beautiful people
I think it doesnt help to make the difference between left and right. Better would be to call them far ahead. It helps to understand the concepts of time, development and evolution.
I do not know if its all 100% accurate, but i can tell you, that we do all hate selfish diclktators, and i did not know that North Korea hated us that much, makes me happy :D
I work for Swedish biggest company selling consumer electronics. We do not have any Huawei smart phones but we have Huawei routers and smart watches. There is ways to buy Huawei smart phones in Sweden. We also have other Chinese electronic companies like OnePlus and Xiaomi.
Happiness index is actually related to social mobility and trust for government (to not arrest anybody for random reason). Nordic countries have problems to get index score less than 7 (makes it easily to world top 10), because of lack of random police/other citizen violence. Nordics do have free education. Nordics do have social safety network (unemployment does not mean real danger to die for hunger within a year). It is more strange to have have other countries with such pessimistic view of government and other citizens to come for someones help in time of need. Happiness index 7 (usually needed to top 10 ranking) actually means that somebody is not going to break into someones home, rob and mutilate somebody and leave somebody to bleed without any help. Nordics are not actually so happy, they are just not so miserable than the most of others. Test set is 1000 random persons per country.
I think the answer to which country should be learned more about and perhaps visited depends on what you like to do. - Denmark seems (to this Norwegian at least) to be more continental, ie. resembling the Central European countries more when it comes to "the personality". I personally love to visit Denmark. They seem to have a lighter disposition than us Norwegians. Back when I was a kid Norwegians didn't have that much money, so when we went on holidays to Denmark. Felt quite exotic to us. There was even a slogan aimed at Norwegians: "Det er dejlig å være norsk... i Danmark" (it is wonderful to be Norwegian... in Denmark) - Sweden is really good at making everyone feel at home. If you visit Sweden in the summer you can go for a drive in the more rural areas and see people spending time in "Sommarstugan" (the summer home). The weather is better in Sweden during the summer than in parts of Norway as well. - Finland is wonderful if you like a bit more of a low key affair. I have been to Finland a few times. At first they seem even more taciturn than us Norwegians, but if you get to know a Finnish person they are truly nice folks. Also, if you like your landscape with big sprawling woods peppered with small lakes, Finland is for you. - As for Norway, we're just a silly little country that is a little bit of all these other countries. We're kind of an amalgamation of the three other countries. Doesn't seem too exotic to me, but that might just be because I have lived here for all my life...
They got Janteloven (the jante law) wrong. Janteloven comes from autograf Axel Sandemose’s nobel A fugitive crosses his Tracks, and describes the human habit of pushing others down, and not appreciating others success and progress. It’s not a good trait or path to anything good
8:12 I think what he’s trying to say it’s quite hard to pronounce, but I think the all men right law he’s talking about. You can say the Swedish people is an introvert people 😂😂😅 But if you’re going to Sweden, and you want people to notice you , you should live stream
It’s always so funny that Finns rank the highest for happiness because there’s this generalisation about them that they are the very opposite of happy. Like super gloomy 😂😂😂 But maybe it’s a facade. Maybe they rank happiness by safety, lack of poverty, low infant mortality, good elderly care, good schools, and things like that.
There's a proverb in Finnish "Kell' onni on, se onnen kätkeköön", which means something like "the one who has the happiness, should hide it". 😅 (But in reality, it is about those kind of things you mentioned)
The happiness index ranks countries based on metrics like GDP per capita, freedom, education, environment etc. For some reason people think of the surveys, but considering Finns are the biggest complainers on the planet they would never rank number 1 several years in straight on a ranking like that.
Dude, socialdemocracy between 60s and 80s almost ended us were Venezuela is today. Thanks god for the free market reforms in the 90s edit: or thank Göran Persson, it takes a sosse to undo what another sosse have destoyed 😂
I live in sweden. i tried a sea level map. if the sea level would rise 300m most of sweden and finland and denmark would be underwater but almost ALL of norway would be above sealevel. That's pretty cool
On Nordics being considered rude and direct, I think they mean in a corporate setting. In many other cultures, talking back to your superior at work is taboo, in the Nordics, it's common practise.
I'm Norwegian and I watch your videos 😁😀 I enjoyed this video a lot. I recommend visiting Oslo, the south of Norway (Arendal, Risør, Lillesand) the west (the fjords) and the north (Lofoten and Tromsø). If you're in south let me know and I'll show you around 😊 Do more videos about Norway 😁😀 Happy weekend 🎉
Hailing from Denmark here. We also have an interresting geographical placement in the world being at the mouth of the baltic sea, we have historical controlled who sailed in and out. Today it stil have millitary importence. Arctic we have greenland close to US and Canada, with US having an airbase there on top of that a claim to the North Pole increasing tentions with Russia. We used to be neutral but, due to having Germany as a neighbor that was not possible. Denmark used to have good relationship with Russia with cultural exchange before it was shut down by Putin. During the 90 we pulled away from being open country welcomming everybody due to concerns with crime and anti democratic views from some refuges. It is easy to start a buisness in Denmark. We have allot of very small buisneses. We have a few big well known companies as Maersk, Lego and Novo Nordic, We exsport quiete some food products. We have fears of climate change wich can hit us very hard.
As soon as there is a video or few made of norway and tagged, norwegians have a tendency to click in to see what you think of said video and how you will react towards our country. ;)
It was true for Sweden until 2004. The concept was refered to as "mixed economy". Things like stores were privately owned and operated, while areas important for society that could not maintain a proper level of competition in private hand, was operated by the government. Things like schools, hospitals and powerplants. This largely changed under Reinfeldth in 2004, and virtually everything that could become profitable for oligarks was privatized at the expense of the taxpayers. No other nation in the world allows as extreme profits from private schools as sweden (they are all publically funded, with no limits how much profit the owners can take out from the money supposed to be used for education). Sweden has become one of the most extreme, if not THE most extreme capitalist nation in the world. A paradise for profiteers acting like parasites on society.
Europe haven’t been leaning truly left since the 50’s. The whole political spectrum has moved right, which gives that even centre-liberal ideas, is seen as left wing. Sweden isn’t socialist and have never been (nor has the rest of the north). What it has had is a very strong labour force, who to a large part have been unionised. What there is, is an idea that you have a capitalistic economic system, with a high focus on equality , state funded infrastructure and social welfare. In Sweden, for example, this is made possible by, amongst other things, using what’s called the Swedish model (there is no minimum wage, everything is done in discussion between employer and union)
Socialism is about solidarity, that's why our taxes are so high, and we practise capitalism quite freely, which is a free market, there isn't some gestapo telling us what we can or cannot do in most cases. There are a lot of rules in the building of houses though, and we can't just build whichever car or vehicle we would like to, because there are safety to precedence, such as human lives one's own and others. Usually we regard human lives really high, while dictatorships tend to just send people to the slaughter, "oh don't worry we have more, our country is a baby making soldier machine." "/ We don't practise communist values or corporatism values which are the extreme ends of socialism and capitalism. The blend of growing and at the same time actually caring about other people, is what makes us a balanced system.
In Norway the industries like oil and gas are to a large degree owned by the state, which redistributes the wealth via infrastructure and welfare. So yeah, it has some key socialist elements.
Liked your video, live in Sweden for the past 23 years, bur originally Norwegian. Historically Sweden and Denmark are the two main countries... I hate to say so, but its true.
In theory anyone can achieve the American dream, the only problem is that some people start at the 90 meter line in a 100 meter dash. While some start 50 meters behind the starting point.
Dane here and funny how much you leave us out throughout :D We might be a small country until you take in Faero Isle and Greenland :P But we are very simular to Norway and Sweden and the 3 of us have always had each others back throughout history. So maybe a little look into the Denmark wouldn´t hurt you for sure :D
@XpiRai Hello there! Denmark isn't small except for geographically. Populationwise there are just about as many Danes as there are Finlanders. Of course, surfacewise, Finland is much larger, but that's another matter. We've had to work hard to get the term 'the Nordic countries' more widely known so that Finland and Iceland could be included in the group with Sweden, Norway and Denmark, where we belong because of our cultures, history, politics and values. There's only one subject where you miss the mark and that is that you three (Sweden, Norway and Denmark) have had one another's back all through history. One would think so, because of the close relationships between those three countries today. But the truth of the matter is that 'all through history' - until the modern era - the Danes and the Swedes have been fighting each other for the control mainly of the areas of Scania (Skåne), Blekinge and Halland. At times, Norway was also concerned. Finland was an integral part of Sweden, its Eastern Province, for some 700 years, and was thus involved in the fighting as well, mainly by providing soldiers to the Swedish army and by acting as a shield against Russia. Wars were more or less constant and the only longer period of peace in Scandinavia was the period of the Kalmar Union until we come to the modern era, so when we look back, it's difficult to believe that Sweden, Denmark, Finland and even Norway, now so peaceful and close friends, were once enemies and rivals.
@@Gittas-tube Correct, but the point was if someone outside scandinavia tried to get in then all the brothers teamed up and showned them where the door was. And if you have siblings you also know that they fight but it´s never really more then you become good friends again :D I know deaths are not fun and all that but still have a little ironi :D
Maybe do a video about the differences between the Nordic countries. We are kind of alike but there are differences. That might be a good starting point to then look into the different countries
Maybe it’s a thing from when we were Vikings. We are all in the same boat here, we have to make it work, if you have any ideas we can discuss and consider bring them forth.
Ever since the bourgeois government came to power in Finland the happiness has turned downward, during the democratic government there was no such problem. Of course, the national debt increased somewhat, but we were happier then, it seems that we are going to the American model, where pretty soon people won't even get basic health care unless you have fat wallet (of course emergencys are taken care of) but like diabetes insulin you have to pay yourself for example, my medical expenses are around 100€/month, without government help they would be closer to 1000€/month, I would never be able to afford it.
Many Countries especially Americans confuse the meanings of the words Socialism and Communism. Communism is the ideology were no person owns basically anything, but the government owns all and everything in theory is commonly owned - this was as starters good idea, but the greed and selfishness destroyed the concept and it became a government (and power and wealth hungering persons nesting in the government highest roles) acting like a Dictator and the individuals fading into non importance at all and into poverty - mind you, not the ideologies fault, but the faults in human nature and personality made it impossible to follow and for ever will be impossible to carry out (Humans are selfish and greedy as basic personalities, only the level of them is changing from person to person) - like seen in Sovjet Union (USSR) and also in China before them taking also elements of capitalism in their ideologies. Socialism or Social country is when the Government is taking the responsibility to offer the basic Infrastructure, Health care, education etc. and providing them free of charge to the citizens and also having safety nets so that no one falls into total poverty and/or homeless. These services are funded by the taxes collected from everyone, so the taxes are higher than "the land of the free" is having, BUT you also get a lot in return. So Nordic countries is truly a balance or a mix of Socialism and Capitalism, but NOT Communism! People especially in the USA are saying this cannot work, but the Nordic countries have shown, that oh yes, it does work - not necessary if the history of the country has taught people to stump on other peoples heads and summon as much wealth and power regardless of other people and make this as a virtue and an American Dream that every one should follow.. When you settle for average wealth, then a wider range of people reach the same sufficient level, making happiness possible widely. If everyone is hoarding wealth for themselves as much as possible, then more people than themselves will remain in poverty and be unhappy!
"Communism is the idelogoy were no person owns basically anything, but the goverment owns all and everything". Wrong, the literal definition of communism is "A stateless, moneyless, and classless society". Therefore there is no government. Of course a country doesn´t work without a government but communism by definition has no government, thus all current "communist countries" aren´t communist but either state-capitalist or socialist.
In Denmark our government has consisted of a socialist party for like many many years now. Obviously we still have some liberalism and some capitalism even a lot of nationalism aswell. But to say we’re not socialist would be wrong in my opinion.
At least in Finland whenever someone flaunts their wealth or position and make themselves "better" than anyone else, they get called out by literally everyone, including the media. Act like James Corden in a restaurant? You are lucky if you can get a meal from McDonalds after that. Talk down to your empoyees? Your business loses all the clients.
I tragicomic example of this was the controversy of Chinese tourists in Stockholm that refused to leave the lobby at a hostel. They had a booking next day but the hotel was full this day. They wanted to camp out in the lobby but the hostel saud NO. Police was ultimately called and transported them to a park close to other hotels. Should not become world news right? Well guess what... Sczcams.com/video/JVxJ7UKG5XE/video.html
As said in the video it is a mix between capitalist and socialist. You don't think it's socialist because you have only heard of the most pure form of it. But what the nordic countries has done is take the best ideas of both and tried to balance them out to make them function.
There are changes afoot. These dictators have been very successful in destabilizing most of the Nordic countries, especially Sweden. For a couple of decades they have seen huge waves of people from Africa and the Middle East - the least culturally equal - invade the countries. Crime rates are soaring, housing queues are years long in many places and the economic system is under severe strain. Divisions are growing between different religious and cultural groups. So their irritation with our countries up north should have subsided considerably recently.
We could sort all of this out if we stopped bickering and stopped blaming bs for the issues. Our issues have been not dealing with the problems we have and adding people on top of that, we've always had immigration. We ignored issues having to due with poverty, and then adding on to that pressure by presenting an image to people coming here (and people here) that they will get everything they need and then dropping them to sort out everything on their own without knowing how because taking people in made politicians look good, but they don't want to bother actually doing what is needed to use the workforce coming in as resources, and then being surprised that poverty helps kids be groomed into gangs before they are old enough to understand the consequences (even if the research on this is REALLY BLOODY clear, which I say as a librarian), and ignoring gang issues as long as it's not on their doorstep. The problem isn't authoritarians purposefully sending people to try to "sabotage" us (yes, because the one thing we know about authoritarians is that they like to lose the people they control...?), it's that we want to blame everything except the fact that we are unorganized and focus on everything that doesn't require US to change (yeah, I wonder why the problems always stay the same...). Before it was immigrants, it was the white teen gangs(which still very much exist btw, but it is also inconvenient to talk about those), before that it was the hippies, before that it was the mentally ill, before that it was the Catholics or protestants or whatever - or maybe, it's us just complaining, and not doing our part to solve the problems, you know, like blaming others so we don't have to do our part to WORK TOGETHER. I don't know about other places, but in Sweden, we need the labour of immigrants because we don't have enough people. Instead of making sure the people here get what they need to settle, we give them access to an education in Swedish that is so bad that more people (including immigrants from wealthy countries) prefer Duolingo, cause SFI couldn't teach a Swede Swedish, and the people who come here who are doctors etc. but have already lost everything, we decide to make it too hard for them to get what they need to rebuild, so they end up being cleaners and bus drivers, even if we are desperate to have doctors. We are throwing resources away, and we are so exhausted ourselves, that instead of either looking it up, or just looking around, we accept the bs politicians tell is so they don't have to do their jobs - so we don't have to take responsibility in turn. Just look at the grades in school - my parents have been teachers for 30 years, and they have never had less ability to properly do their jobs, than now. That isn't immigration, it's that people don't raise their kids anymore, instead expecting teachers to do that, and that they aren't even allowed to put a kid that's disrupting outside of the classroom anymore, which means it's pure chaos. That's just one example of how we are opting out of our responsibility, and it has effects for all of society, since teachers are now being pressured to give grades to kids that those kids don't deserve (even if it's illegal), meaning our population is literally becoming dumber. Dumber, more entitled, and take less responsibility than people have for about 100 years when it comes to society. My dad is a workoholic, and he is considering retiring early because of this, and he is a teacher at a private school, with mostly middle Class Swedish kids, that are so bad other teachers want him to go with honom their school outings because he is not afraid to be stern and tell them off, and technically teachers aren't allowed to do that anymore. There are entire classes regularly that are so bad that no teacher wants to teach them. But yeah, it's immigration that's the problem, isn't that convenient... Sorry about the rant, the frustration is directed towards the subject and not against you 😅 thank you for coming to my TedTalk 😅🥴
The socialist factors we have in Sweden (which have been reduced progressivily since the economical crisis in the 70s) are for example the Hospitals are owned and managed by the goverment/regional. Schools are owned and managed by the goverment/County. But since private owned schools were introduced a few decades ago they have been taking more and more shares. Pharmacy - same as above. The alcohol market is 100% owned by the goverment. Gambling is 100% owned by the goverment. Except online gambling due to the EU rules.. And very few gambles in shops these days so i guess the goverment lost that market that way. The list can probably go on a bit further.
Swede here and we can seem direct because we don't look at titles when addressing people. I was in a business meeting with Americans and had two of my employees with me and one on them asked the American CEO questions directly during the meeting, the CEO looked at me like "When are you going to punch your employee in the face for speaking to me?". After the meeting one of the americans tried to explain to me the "right" way to talk to people that are "better" than you. I just looked at him and said "Welcome to Sweden!"...
Finn agreeing this, at work place people address boss exactly same as anyone else. No need to do extra a-kissing. For example, what I have noticed is that people greet cleaning workers the same way as anybody else at the work place.
There's little bit of "... and then everybody clapped"-energy to that anecdote, but knowing the social culture and the emphasis on a flat organisational structure in companies here in Sweden as well as having been through some situations that rang similar in retrospect I believe all of it. I was at a meeting where the head of product development was talking about and demonstrating a new piece of tech in conjunction with a service that a company I was working at were going to start offering the customers.
I didn't say it in so many words, but I asked the guy a very pointed, and to anyone working closer to customers, obvious question that made him look quite stupid 😅He didn't have an answer and just mumbled something about "That's a very good question, we'll have to look into that".
And my teamleader gave me a pat on the back after the meeting, and a "Good question there, I like it.". So yeah, no need to feel hesitant about speaking your mind in the Nordics.
So yeah, if you have a good piece of info to add to a discussion you ought to share it.
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No one misses the boss when he’s gone but everyone asks for the cleaning staff as soon they are gone 😂
As a Dane I also think it's a question of respect, but opposite to how Americans would consider it. You speak directly to people you respect and you mince your words to those who're sensitive for one reason or another or literal children.
Americans don't have the word "social democracy" in their vocabulary so they like describing the Nordics as socialist.
McCarty scared them.....
Very reasonable. Socialism, just like market economy, is a greyscale. No boolean variable or dichotomy.
We were socialist to a higher degree than USA, especially before the 1980s.
USA is much more leftist today, and Sweden had some extreme liberal reforms in the 1990s. But the society is still largely socialist. It's a mix, just like in China.
@@herrbonk3635 I know that some people like to use the terms like a sliding scale. I personally find that very misleading.
However you want to use these terms, there is NO case to be made that any of the Nordics, let alone Sweden, has a socialist economic model, and to compare it to China is just absurd. It is true that the social democratic model of private enterprise and public services has it's roots in the early socialist tradition, but that is not to be confused with saying that this model constitutes a socialist economy. You might say that social democracy is a compromise of sorts, between the liberal free market model and the command economy of the USSR. I would argue that it actually derives more from early welfare models in capitalist economies like the US, UK, Germany and the Nordics themselves, and can thus also be seen as a continuation of a social-liberal tradition, but early social democrats did see a kind of socialism as their ultimate end-goal. That is not the case today. In the end, social democracy is a political project built ontop of the foundation of a free market economy. China, even with all of it's reforms, is still a command economy of sorts. It is the Inverse of a Sweden or a Norway; elements of free market capitalism built into a command economy (socialist model). These are fundamentally different, and describing them both as just "mixed economies" does a diservice to the social democratic model and all of it's accomplishments.
actually the Nordics are not "Social democracies" and yes Americans often used that term about the Nordics , each country in the Nordics is diff. from each other so I'm not sure how every country will describe themselves , however in Denmark our system is called "Social Liberal" because that is the center of the political spectrum in Denmark , Socialdemocrats are a political party on the left not the name or ideology of our country as such , you can say it was between 1960-1980 where the Socialdemocrats dominated the policies
No, they're just ignorant. Let's be honest here.
As a Central European (NL) , i love our nordic neighbours
We love NL ,
Best regards from Norway.
I think this happiness ranking was locked older than than the war. The war is only been going on for just a couple of months., I know that there’s always been problems in the Middle East, but with Palestine but not the way it’s been now
We kinda cherry picked capitalism and socialism. Which is why it worked. Neither system actually works so cherry picking the best parts that work and don't colide = Nordic model
It’s not really that complex. Balance the interest of as many stakeholders as possible, to generate overall productive incentives and avoid unproductive conflict.
We are capitalists when it comes to businesses and socialists when it comes to people... and a political warzone when the two meets.
A capitalist market with social policies. Taking the best out of both and putting them together into a system that just works.
Quite spot on.
Swedes got one rule: We dont care who you are, or how high or low you are. We will adress you as we see fit. Its part of the "Jante" law.
Regarding happiness ranking, I believe its a number made up from social security, economics/ education and how long we live - not necceccary how happy we feel in politics.
From an international standpoint - we've been open to immigrants, with the baltic war and eastern workers.
We hit a low in 2010 and forward due to terrorism and culture shock form the middle east - and its definitly a work in progress to fix public perception and the gang related issues, but by large and all we're a progressive country that welcome people. We will just not talk to anyone 😂
You will not even talk to the people actively destroying all nordic countries in YOUR country, that 1.5 tonnes of coke doesn't move it self 😂😅
Its BS about janteloven, its from a book with a town called jante, which has 10 laws. Stop trying to plaster it as something people in the scandinavian countries worship and follow. We simply dont
About free healthcare: - my own story: About 4 years ago I saw a kind of blur over right eye. Monday morning I went to the doctor. He suspected a retinal detachment. So he sent me to a specialist. He made the appointment for me. I took the bus an arived early afternoon. THe specialist confirmed the diagnosis an sent me to the hospital, where they specialize in eye operations. I took a taxi to the hospital, was examined and ordred to come the next day at 7.00 next day. At 11.00 am I was operated. It saved my sight on my right eye. Took a taxi home in the afternoon with my wife. Cost around 4 fares by taxi (around 40$) - Im happy to pay about about 35% in taxes
Hello, Eivind!
Yes, that's how it works here in Finland, too!
Your tax is quite okay. The average tax in Finland is some 30% on a salary of about 3,000 euros a month. That's pretty steep, but it has been going up and down over the last 50 years. There are of course all kinds of deductibles... Myself, as a pensioner with a pension of approximately 2,778 euros a month, I pay 20% in taxes.
In euros, my total monthly taxes comes to 463 euros.
For this sum, I get personal benefits worth many times more and I contribute towards paying for the benefits of everybody else and towards society as a whole, towards the payment of all those things that you don't see or realize that exist in the city, municipality, county and the country as a whole.
As your income increases, so do your taxes.
In various online videos about the high taxes in the Nordic countries, percentages of 57% have been tossed around for Finland. Totally wrong. The average is 30 to 33%, and disappears entirely if you earn less than a very modest amount.
As I understand it, the percentage of 57 is the highest tax payable and it only concerns the marginal tax, that is, 57% is applicable only to the overlapping amount that somebody earns on top of their ordinary tax bracket.
In short, to say that the tax in Finland is up to 57% is not correct.
(As this is rather complicated, I hope that I've understood it more or less correctly...I haven't checked.
A case in point: I have a good friend, aged 80, who has had cancer for many years and has received treatment for it. As her prognosis has been good, she has been receiving monthly injections of a new drug that costs 3,000 or 5,000 euros a pop. Not exactly at a bargain basement cost. But she, herself, hasn't had to pay a single cent. That's where our shared taxes go, among a lot of other worthy causes.
Not everyone is that lucky though... When I had kidney stone and was in really severe accute pain, I was just sent out in the snow again without even being allowed to see a doctor. It actually happened two times, with 5-6 days in between.
Just as an example.
@@Gittas-tube not anymore in Helsinmi, who refuses to hire qualified doctors and nurses and have ridiculous rules like antibiotics are not given if the crp is unger 50. Ever! So good luck for dying from sepsis due to untreated infection in your toe!
I believe he's talking about how the nordics can come across as rude and direct in a professional environment, especially to people who are used to a more strict hierarchal work environment. The nordics often have a very flat hierarchal structure in their workplaces and are accustomed to not having to use a "chain of command" when expressing ideas or grievances.
And we're on a first-name basis with everyone, including the bosses. And we don't use terms like "sir".
@@zaph1rax Reminds me of seeing a youtuber from united states, lovely guy and all. But whenever his teenager kids show up in a video they always call him "sir". And it just feels *so* wrong. Not calling your dad 'Dad', what is this, the military?
we are introverts and laid back,and we value personal space and we respect the personal life of other people,and yes we are direct and to the point we don't like small talk,we also dosen't like talking to strangers,some people take that as being rude,that is just our culture,no offence intended.
Agree with you. We are a capitalist countries. With that said, social security is good for business.
No nation is purely built on one set of values though, not even the USA, their most celebrated institution, the military, happen to have a socialist structure as an example. Unlike the USA that have tried to force capitalism on most of its sectors otherwise, including education, health care, and even their penal system, the Nordic countries have a social take on those sectors while leaving capitalism solely to the one thing it's good at: the market sector that handle supply and demand. The Nordic model is a healthy mix of socialism, capitalism, and liberalism, not a pure example of any of them. If anything, USA have only proven that too much capitalism result in qualities of a corporatocracy.
@ShadowTani Exactly, we are a mixed economy with strong socialistic roots, that protect markets that should not be privatized and profit-driven from capitalism and corporatism abusing them for private enrichment, that only goes in one direction. Trickle-down economics doesn't work, and USA is proving it.
China is also capitalist. But still socialist, just like us. You can have both, for good and for bad.
@@herrbonk3635 China is communist though. While related, the differences between socialism and communism are still significant. China is argued to lean towards stalinism (a more destructive and oppressive form of communism), but the CCP like to paint themselves as something more moderate. Similarly they do not call their economy capitalistic, they call it socialist market economy (SME). But yes, most nations have a capitalistic market sector, including China (even if they insist otherwise). Still, you're right that there are bad forms of socialism as well, like Venezuela.
@@ShadowTaniif its named communist, doesn't mean they practice any for of communism, communism is socialism before it evolves...
Hello, Dwayne! You're right. We're not socialist countries. We have a multiparty system which includes a social-DEMOCRATIC party.
The guy is American and they have no idea of what a social democratic party is, nor what socialism is.
It's too complicated for them. They have no clue.
And the simple fact we have multitude of parties who anyone can vote freely, instead of just two thoroughly corrupt power hoarders smearing and lying about EVERYTHING. Absolutely everyone can read several languages and comprehend all kinds of complicated topics, way too multifaceted for an average american thinking in polar opposites.
Yes. They seem to confuse socialism with communism. Very strange.
Well the war on communism left a deep scar in their society, if you spend many decades under both corporate and government propaganda, almost everything turn into communism... or at best socialism, which is considered the same thing for a large part of their population. Honestly when i lived over there i spoke with a guy who had his life ruined by medical debt and he was constantly complaining about Bernie's desire to become like Denmark... 🤦♂
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👩🏻🌾🏞️🌅🇫🇮 Oh my. Deep sigh. What can one say other than that in reality U.S. citizens are denied many of the freedoms that are taken for granted in the Nordic countries, and elsewhere.
We've come to realize how isolated the U.S. is. It hasn't been that obvious because of the ubiquitous presence of the popular culture and attention given to the States in Europe and in other parts of the world. We know a lot about them, while they know hardly anything about us. We speak several languages, while they only speak one (except those immigrants that speak English plus their own mother tongue, like Spanish, for instance.)
As to the isolation, I've got three words for you:
Education, education, education. That's where it starts.
After that, comes all the rest. Without education, brainwashing becomes easy, there's no upward mobility, except in very special cases. Original and individual thoughts and opinions of an opposing nature to that preached to the masses have a hard time getting heard or considered.
Besides, how can you discuss anything with people who don't know what you're talking about?
So, education is number One.
Number Two is Equality in all of its aspects.
After that, you have the Law, Justice and Compassion.
Followed by all the other freedoms that are made possible by the first Five.
You could, of course, categorize them differently. No matter. Reality will show which ones make the other ones possible.
I hope that you agree, or can see the point I'm trying to make, Magnus. In the Nordic countries it's frowned upon to brag, as you know. It's definitely not cool. So, we can only calmly note that the facts don't lie and leave it at that.
P.S. What a fantastic summer we've had!
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@@Gittas-tubedepends, what people want to see and not.. they have been idolised and looked up to, but not for what and who they are, but for what people think they are and stand for.. but it has been obvious for some..
Germany has most of these as well. We're not as good at it as the nordics, but we try.
Im from Sweden so naturally I lean towards choosing Sweden but really it doesnt matter which of the nordic countries you focus on. The nordic countries are just the best ;)
China agreed that their ship caused the data cable breach between Finland and Estonia last year. But that it was because of "bad weather" and accident. They really said something along the lines that it couldn't have been on purpose because Finland is not that important for China to care.
In Denmark we also have a model we call 'Flexicurity' (flexibility and security). The model guarantees that the employer easy can fire its employees with short termination notices, while there is an very active labor market policy and a strong social security net. This means that the companies gets flexible workers, while the workers have fair working conditions, without being in total economical ruins if you one day gets fired. This is a model that benefits both sides.
A termination notice for most Danes is from 3 months to 6 months - so it's not short as such. Besides that an employer needs a valid reason to terminate an employee.
ngl I'm kinda proud they don't like us it's like the biggest compliment ever😅
/love from Sweden ❤❤❤
Well, we are social democracies. I guess you could call that between capitalism and socialism.
But by that definition many other European countries fall into that category as well.
I would say honest and direct. The Dutch also share this quality. As a Finnish person it's always a pleasure to work with them because you never need to second guess their opinions on something.
The "Nordic Model" are also called "The Middle Way" between capitalism and socialism. In Norway we often call it "The Norwegian House", which is fitting in the sense of running a country like a "household" which besides transactions also means to take care of each other. It is just how "Vikings" are, a thousand years later...hahah ;)
I am from Norway
We make jokes about the other Nordic countries, but we do genuinely love our good neighbours.
All good fjeldabe,, ❤ ha det greit
@@AbsSolut 🤪🤣🇳🇴❤️🇩🇰
Så sant Norge 🥰
Social democracy, which the Nordic countries rely on for their success, is a very different thing than socialism and communism. Especially Americans seem to have a hard time understanding the differences between these concepts. The Nordic countries are not socialist and certainly not communist, we are social democratic, a successful form of capitalism.
Etonia, Latvia and Lithuania have strong ties to Scandinavia. We even provide troops over there to help
Estonia and Sweden have a long shared history. Swedes historically setting up communities along the west coast. Swedish schools, Swedish cultural programmes, centuries of inter marriage and friendships. 1500s onwards was 150yrs or so of Swedish rule in Estonia. Sweden was a huge ally to Estonia during and post WW2 with aid and refugees. Swedish humanitarian aid to Estonia throughout the Soviet occupation. Estonian and Swedish vikings raiding each other. Greetings from Estonia.
@@EEX97623and we the Danes was there before ;) ,, going to Estonia next year, history nerd*
Swede here, I think you should do Norway next. Their nature and enviroment is absolutely stunning! Love your videos and legitamate interest in our culture and way of living! We will welcome you with open arms when you visit!
Well, because we, the Nordic countries are closest to the real democracy!
maybe if the politicians wasnt talking in circles and actually answered yes and no and didnt try to speak for everyone else all the time (looking at you
Im shocked - keeping Denmark out ….. im disapointed
Social vs socialist - I 100% agree. In many ways, we've actually beaten the US at their own capitalist game. As for the happiness indices, those reflect contentness more so than they reflect happiness
norway here, I have looked at your videos, they are good, hope you will learn more about norway :)
FEAR US!! :D Greetings from Norway. :) We are actually pretty friendly up here.
I'd love to have you guys here to talk to 🤗 Hope Dwayne makes more Norway related videos!
(We Finns have been here with mostly just Swedes, we need some common sense to the discussion! 😉)
@@Sinivalkoseepra-yz1ke Hehehe...don't know how much common sense we can bring to the table. :D
@@Sinivalkoseepra-yz1ke Ey! As a Swede, I’m offended. I thought we had something 😒
@johananas8407 Yikes! Sorry, Sweden dear! But I wanna play with Norway, too 🥺 Maybe we could all three have some fun together? 😇
(Seems like my first joke was too much for CZcams as it got deleted 😅🤭)
I like the Norwegans and the people of Iceland ( Icelandics? ) We are like a great family. Love from Denmark 🇩🇰
I think at the core of the Nordic model is meritocracy. But also to provide every individual with the possibility and support needed to be the best version of themselves, to everybodys benefit. I like the people I meet to be smart, happy, free/safe and healthy, made a career of it in fact. As we aren't that many we need to be at our best, always.
"I think at the core of the Nordic model is meritocracy." No, it's definitely isn't as every Nordic country have a democracy of people NOT based on merits but opinions. It's just that the administrations aren't as political as in most other countries.
China owns Volvo and have a lot of windmills in Sweden😠and they often try to tell us what to do. Putin didn’t want Sweden and Finland to join Nato, but then he should not have invaded Ukraine.Iran is keeping a sharp eye on there expats and so does Turkey, China Ethiopia and many other countries. That’s why so many are silent.
USA did that, in 2014.
@@herrbonk3635 ah yes USA invaded ukraine in 2014 🤡
We gave you a offer of some oil revenues for volvo i guess it was better selling to china😢
@@twinko3554 Worse, infiltrated it and replaced the government with their puppy regime.
@@twinko3554 The US company running this sajt didn't allow me to answer your question in any concret detail. As always.
A common misunderstanding - they are not ranking people's actual feel of happiness, they are ranking the countries conditions, services and mechanisms to enable the people to become or feel happy. They are not asking from people in different countries that are you happy, because that would have a big probability to manipulate and lie the answer. The report says that the countries existing structures, laws, services, jobs, wealth being distributed fairly etc. etc. is creating the possibility for people to feel themselves happy of the Life conditions and future opportunities - not directly happy feelings like being in Love or in balance with themselves etc. The most of the Foreign countries twisted the study being of how happy people are feeling as an individual and their sum compared to other nations. Also the word HAPPY includes more in some languages than in other and different cultures understand the word HAPPY and what it covers differently. That's why they measure and compare, that in Finland everything existing in place offers one more possibility or probability to become happy than other countries, BUT does not ensure that that will happen to all people, because people also require different things an amounts to feel themselves happy..
I was born in Denmark and have lived here all my life. I got sick 12 years ago, got primary progressive sclerosis, and my back is worn out with 5 herniated discs and osteoarthritis. What I have been through from MRI scans, spinal cord and blood tests and a sea of examinations by specialists in the last 12 years.. I stopped counting a long time ago... I am now paid an early retirement pension every month by the Danish state . Which means that I can live for rent in an 80 m2 house with a carport and a huge garden... I am definitely grateful to have been born in Denmark, had I lived in a country other than Denmark, which had not had the same social network, I would probably have lived on the streets... If I had still been here ❤️🇩🇰 So love our beautiful old Denmark ❤️🇩🇰
Ok, the thing about "Janteloven", it's from a Danish novel by Axel Sandemose, "En flykting krysser sine spor". This is about a fictional place in Denmark, and this is not a positive thing. Just saying... :)
Precisely. I read the novel when I was younger and there is clearly nothing good about the Jante Law. Yet, over the last ten years or more, the concept has suddenly been turned round as being something good. Very bizarre.
@@hw-art Yes, it's kind of strange.
True that, and any one who couldnt fit in the very small society and narrowminded as the town Nykøbing Mors was at that time, the thirthies, would invent the Jantelaw. The "law" is only teached by danish language teacher for foreigners. The jantelaw is a made up law which one dont have to follow.
@@hw-art It is not bizarre.. The Law of Jante is a condensation of the Danish/Nordic mentality and it is at the heart of why we thrive as nations and indivduals. In the novel it is simply turned into something negative because the main character feels it to be constraining.
Yeah, I found the positive spin on Janteloven somewhat strange. The worst thing about that is that parts of the argument almost made sense to me...
Finland and Sweden have good relations, but are also competitive and have friendly banter between them. Hockey between the two is a big thing.
Denmark has similar relations with Norway and Sweden, and an example of that is that Ikea (a swedish company) has their carpets named after Danish places so people all over the world are walking over Denmark.
Carpets, so people all over...😂😂 I hope that the Danes have enough humor to let this pass...
We are actually very direct because we don't like talking, so we get straight to the point. Or at least Finns are like this. That's also very big reason why Finns get misunerstood easily, because we seem so rude even to eachother. You have no idea how many times I have cried because other person was so direct that I thought that I did something wrong 🤣
Yeah, that's definitely not how most Swedes are.
When i grew up we had "little Turku" just right next to us and many of my friends came from there. The kids acted just like any other kid my age, but the moment we went over to "little Turku" it felt like a cold shower everything became too strict and to the point, not to mention Finnish just sound "harsher" then Swedish, so it was a bit of a culture chock especially since Finn-Swedes mix both languages all the time. Funny story is that when i was younger i always swore in Finnish instead of Swedish, there's way more oomph in yelling Perkele then many equivalents in Swedish.
I really like Finn's thou so it's more of this kind of brotherly nitpicking then anything else.
@@magnuscarlsson9969👩🏻🌾🇫🇮🇸🇪
Hi there, Magnus!
I'm one of those Finland-Swedes (finlandssvenskar)!
Swedish is my mother tongue, but I'm also totally fluent in Finnish, English, French - and not so fluent in German. Of course I also understand Norwegian pretty well, and written Danish.
But when it comes to needing a really strong swearword, Finnish is the best! Perkele! And roll the R as much as you can!
If I get REALLY MAD, I have a whole line of Finnish curse words, or how about these, all in a row:
SAATANA, PERRKELE, V..., JUMALAUTA! 😂😂
It has a good rhythm to it, too.
If you have some use for it, please be my guest! 😂
Dane here :) This is free -> ALL form of Healthcare, Education (get payed under education), maternity leave (Father and mother gets 24 weeks) and so on. And if we are direct? If you would ask me how i feel... I will tell you Honestly how i feel (keep in mind, I would also tell you if i feel if i feel sad, worried, mad and so on) In that way we are VERY direct. Not like Americans answering "fine thanks, and you".... Remember -> you asked :P AND WE ARE KNOWN FOR MANY THINGS!!! *Bluetooth (named after the Danish King Harald Bluetooth who ruled Denmark and Norway in the Viking age) *Vikings (we are the ones atacked england and at one point ruled whole of england aswell, and concored France, syria and meny more also beck then as i recall) *Vikings tv series ( Ragnar Lothbrok and the sons were real, and hailed from Denamrk) *HC. Andersen (the little mermaid, the emperors new clothes, The ugly duckling and so on and all the other stories) *LEGO (yup) and Many more things :)
Dental care (part of health care) isn't free in Denmark... It is quite expensive to be honest.
The Swedish economy is built on capitalism, but because they are very wealthy, they tried at one point in the 1960s to adopt more socialist policies to give some of it back to the less fortunate, but they never aspired to try and become a socialist utopia that has failed many times for other countries in history. Swedes also have a very high trust in their institutions and politicians to take care of them, and of course a very high trust in each other and treat it like their family, so with a society like that, having some socialism works. They used to call this idea "Folkhemmet," or the People's Home. Today, the People's Home is a bygone time, but the trust culture is still very high. Today, Sweden is politically more centre-right with a conservative government while the social democrats struggle to keep up, and we see a rise in right-wing national conservatism, which represents the second largest political force in the country. When the world became more globalised, the flaws in socialist ideas quickly started showing, for example, in immigration. So you are right, Sweden has never been a socialist country; they are a capitalist country built on a culture of trust, equality and individualism.
The reason you say: "Who would have known" is because you both do talk and looks away from the video when you should be focused on listening and learning. Discipline and dedication is a nordic skill!
You asked - How are they ranking happiness ? - There is some CZcams videos on that. It's actually a complex thing to make that ranking.
As a Swede I have to say that both Norway and Denmark have very good tv series. I just watched Gangs of Oslo, similar to Snabba Cash. Just a recommendation from me to explore Danish and Norwegian tv-series on Patreon.
snabba cash is so good:) gotto check out gangs of norway now:P love from NOR
@@madsiraver I found it on Netflix 🙂
@@helenalissing6475 ty 😗
This video was wrong about several things, for example the "Jante law" (8:02 and onwards). This was coined by the author Aksel Sandemose and it is actually the "laws" that will keep you down:
Don't think you are anything special.
Don't think you are as good as we are.
Don't think you are smarter than we are.
Don't convince yourself that you are better than we are.
Don't think you know more than we do.
Don't think you are more important than we are.
Don't think you are good at anything.
THANK YOU! I'm so god damned tirsdag of people from both the nordics and elsewhere getting the whole jantelov thing ass backwards. It's embarrassing as hell. No the law of jante is a bad thing and no we do not follow the law of jante here. And if we do its not something to be proud of. Jeeeez
We have got rid of Chinese companies in infrastructure, not in individual phones. You will not find a Chines owned company supplying mobile cells, but you would never see us forbid anyone for freely buying legal products like a phone or car.
Visiting Scandinavian countries you should visit both the south and the far north of them as there are huge differences in culture. You will find the northerners to be a lot more direct...
I believe that happiness is based on standard of living
Actually it's not. When your standard of living reach a certain level, you don't get more happy if it goes up. It's like Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Once a level is reached you need something else to move forward. If you are well feed you get little pleasure of a better steak. It might satisfy you here and now, but your overall happiness doesn't go up.
The reason the Nordic countries are overall happy is that they are well feed, have good security and trust in their societies. They belong to a well defined group with little social distance between high and low in their societies. Their physiological and other deficiency needs are met with some room to spare and they can concentrate on personal growth.
We’re all smooth operators - observe, analytics then action
I would probably say We here in Scandinavia are in some ways positioned in the Middle.., and we are close to having TRUE "Freedom of Speech" and not being "blocked" when speaking and expressing our views.. and that this is something leaders with a need to control and with a lot of power fears ! We can and are used to criticise toward either way of the spectrum.. and one other funny thing.. If we travel East we are often seen as Capitalists, If we travel West we are often seen as Communists,, :D / Peace to and for everyone !
Finland: all the unhappy people too drunk to respond to stupid questions
Lol, good one
"HATE" is a big word here, I don't think anyone would HATE a country
Danish woman here, never heard of the company "Honor". I dont recall last time I saw a Huawei phone for sale in a store. Maybe online - I dont know.
Happy to jump on a call with you so we can confirm that your accusation of AI is nothing more than an accusation. Coincidentally, if you're going to insult the creators of content you're 'reacting' to, it just makes you look a bit silly. I understand that cadence is difficult to understand for someone who's at most learnt one language in their life. AI isn't under every rock you see, even though this is the new fad on youtube. Have a good evening.
He won’t do it, reaction channels like this are a dime a dozen and essentially leech off of proper content like yours. I wouldn’t bother with him, your videos are good, his is essentially just a long line of videos pretending to be interested in things and throwing accusations about AI around like it’s the new thing. I never understood people like this channel who keeps insulting the creators of the content they’re leeching from, when I’m reality they’re in a spot where they could be taken for copyright for every other video.
As with all these reaction videos it's usually just the people 'reacting' using the hard work of others to plug their patreon and donations links. It's like he's so far down the rabbit hole in regards to AI that he can't hear your thick Danish accent. If I was you I'd hammer this guy with a copyright strike, he's even streaming the music you've got licensed in his so called 'reaction'. He won't take your call, and he likely won't retract his BS statement either. Brits and Americans are just not very bright when it comes to language, you'll have to excuse him.
Yes, it is accurate to say that Sweden is a mix between socialism and capitalism, and that the country operates as a social democratic market economy where both capitalist and socialist solutions are applied to address societal issues. This allows Sweden to combine the benefits of both systems to create a society that values both economic growth and social welfare.
One example of the capitalist elements in Sweden is the free market economy, where private companies are central to economic growth. Businesses are allowed to operate freely within the bounds of the law, and market forces such as supply and demand determine prices and production. Large Swedish companies like Volvo, Ericsson, and IKEA are global players thriving in this market economy. These businesses are privately owned, and their profits primarily go to shareholders, which is a hallmark of a capitalist system. There is also strong protection for property rights and a focus on innovation and entrepreneurship, encouraging individuals to start and grow new businesses. This is a key part of the capitalist structure, where growth and competition drive the economy forward.
On the other hand, Sweden has a robust welfare system that is based on socialist principles of equality and social justice. The state provides a comprehensive range of publicly funded services, including education, healthcare, and elderly care. These services are available to all citizens, regardless of income, ensuring that everyone in society has access to essential welfare. The tax system is also progressive, meaning that those who earn more pay higher taxes. This is a way of redistributing wealth from the richest to those with less, aligning with socialist ideals of reducing economic inequality.
Sweden also employs combined solutions that reflect a mix of both capitalist and socialist principles. For instance, the labor market operates under a system of cooperation between employers and unions, often referred to as "the Swedish model." Collective agreements between employers and employees ensure fair wages and working conditions. This represents a balance between capitalist ideas of corporate freedom and socialist values of workers' rights. Additionally, Sweden allows some private actors within welfare services such as healthcare, education, and elderly care, where private companies operate for profit but are regulated and funded by the state. This is an example of how capitalist principles can be combined with social goals to increase efficiency and choice within the welfare system, while still ensuring that basic welfare rights are protected.
Another example can be seen in housing policy, where the state supports housing development and provides housing allowances for those in need, while there is also a private market for buying and renting homes. This mix serves different needs within the housing market by combining government measures with market solutions. Housing, like access to education and healthcare, is viewed as a fundamental human right, and the state takes responsibility to ensure that everyone has access to a decent standard of living.
You should learn more about Norway, as a Dane with a Norwegian mom, I can say it is one of the must beautiful country in the world. And like the rest of Nordic countries full of nice and beautiful people
I think it doesnt help to make the difference between left and right. Better would be to call them far ahead. It helps to understand the concepts of time, development and evolution.
As a Norwegian, I would say we are a sosialistic democracy, but we have been turning slightly more towards capitalism since the world war 2..
Could the oil fund be part of that? Socialist State Capitalism?
I do not know if its all 100% accurate, but i can tell you, that we do all hate selfish diclktators, and i did not know that North Korea hated us that much, makes me happy :D
I like where you're going with your spelling. Let me just adjust one word: dicktator.
Jantelagen. The law of Jante.
Nobel peaceprize is swedish, but the gala holds in Norway. The other galas for Nobelprizes holds in Sweden.
It's given by nob3l committee in Norway on behalf of nobels testament
Anyway the video is wrong politicians have no say in who gets the price
I work for Swedish biggest company selling consumer electronics. We do not have any Huawei smart phones but we have Huawei routers and smart watches. There is ways to buy Huawei smart phones in Sweden.
We also have other Chinese electronic companies like OnePlus and Xiaomi.
Happiness index is actually related to social mobility and trust for government (to not arrest anybody for random reason). Nordic countries have problems to get index score less than 7 (makes it easily to world top 10), because of lack of random police/other citizen violence. Nordics do have free education. Nordics do have social safety network (unemployment does not mean real danger to die for hunger within a year). It is more strange to have have other countries with such pessimistic view of government and other citizens to come for someones help in time of need. Happiness index 7 (usually needed to top 10 ranking) actually means that somebody is not going to break into someones home, rob and mutilate somebody and leave somebody to bleed without any help.
Nordics are not actually so happy, they are just not so miserable than the most of others. Test set is 1000 random persons per country.
I think the answer to which country should be learned more about and perhaps visited depends on what you like to do.
- Denmark seems (to this Norwegian at least) to be more continental, ie. resembling the Central European countries more when it comes to "the personality". I personally love to visit Denmark. They seem to have a lighter disposition than us Norwegians. Back when I was a kid Norwegians didn't have that much money, so when we went on holidays to Denmark. Felt quite exotic to us. There was even a slogan aimed at Norwegians: "Det er dejlig å være norsk... i Danmark" (it is wonderful to be Norwegian... in Denmark)
- Sweden is really good at making everyone feel at home. If you visit Sweden in the summer you can go for a drive in the more rural areas and see people spending time in "Sommarstugan" (the summer home). The weather is better in Sweden during the summer than in parts of Norway as well.
- Finland is wonderful if you like a bit more of a low key affair. I have been to Finland a few times. At first they seem even more taciturn than us Norwegians, but if you get to know a Finnish person they are truly nice folks. Also, if you like your landscape with big sprawling woods peppered with small lakes, Finland is for you.
- As for Norway, we're just a silly little country that is a little bit of all these other countries. We're kind of an amalgamation of the three other countries. Doesn't seem too exotic to me, but that might just be because I have lived here for all my life...
The Nordics are strongly capitalist, and not socialist at all. "Social democracy" has nothing to do with "socialism".
@trottelheimer
👩🏻🌾🇫🇮🏞️🌅🍓 Exactly!
They got Janteloven (the jante law) wrong. Janteloven comes from autograf Axel Sandemose’s nobel A fugitive crosses his Tracks, and describes the human habit of pushing others down, and not appreciating others success and progress. It’s not a good trait or path to anything good
Someone misunderstood the term “janteloven” badly😅
8:12 I think what he’s trying to say it’s quite hard to pronounce, but I think the all men right law he’s talking about.
You can say the Swedish people is an introvert people 😂😂😅
But if you’re going to Sweden, and you want people to notice you
, you should live stream
In Finland we are out much for small talk. We go directly to the core, so yes we are very direct.
Well done mate. Another good video.
The spy guy lived like 200meters from me here in norway. Was a big thing :p
To be fair. The reason the US isn't giving a lot to other countries is because they're protecting all of these smaller countries.
It’s always so funny that Finns rank the highest for happiness because there’s this generalisation about them that they are the very opposite of happy. Like super gloomy 😂😂😂 But maybe it’s a facade. Maybe they rank happiness by safety, lack of poverty, low infant mortality, good elderly care, good schools, and things like that.
There's a proverb in Finnish "Kell' onni on, se onnen kätkeköön", which means something like "the one who has the happiness, should hide it". 😅
(But in reality, it is about those kind of things you mentioned)
Norwegian here watching your videos. ;)
The happiness index ranks countries based on metrics like GDP per capita, freedom, education, environment etc. For some reason people think of the surveys, but considering Finns are the biggest complainers on the planet they would never rank number 1 several years in straight on a ranking like that.
yeah, I will never believe Finland is the happiest country on earth. Makes no sense.
Socialdemocracy is one of the thing's that made Sweden one of the best nations in the 80s
In some respect perhaps, but it also destroyed at least 70% of our cultural heritage, from 1932 and onwards.
@@herrbonk3635 Our economy skyrocketed, almost no unemployment in 1985
Dude, socialdemocracy between 60s and 80s almost ended us were Venezuela is today. Thanks god for the free market reforms in the 90s edit: or thank Göran Persson, it takes a sosse to undo what another sosse have destoyed 😂
@@herrbonk3635 stop acting like ur from sweden, ur not.
No it was the hard work of ordinary swedes and private companies exporting gods.
This is what built Swedens welfare state, not socialism!
I live in sweden. i tried a sea level map. if the sea level would rise 300m most of sweden and finland and denmark would be underwater but almost ALL of norway would be above sealevel. That's pretty cool
On Nordics being considered rude and direct, I think they mean in a corporate setting. In many other cultures, talking back to your superior at work is taboo, in the Nordics, it's common practise.
I'm Norwegian and I watch your videos 😁😀 I enjoyed this video a lot. I recommend visiting Oslo, the south of Norway (Arendal, Risør, Lillesand) the west (the fjords) and the north (Lofoten and Tromsø). If you're in south let me know and I'll show you around 😊 Do more videos about Norway 😁😀 Happy weekend 🎉
Hailing from Denmark here. We also have an interresting geographical placement in the world being at the mouth of the baltic sea, we have historical controlled who sailed in and out. Today it stil have millitary importence. Arctic we have greenland close to US and Canada, with US having an airbase there on top of that a claim to the North Pole increasing tentions with Russia. We used to be neutral but, due to having Germany as a neighbor that was not possible. Denmark used to have good relationship with Russia with cultural exchange before it was shut down by Putin.
During the 90 we pulled away from being open country welcomming everybody due to concerns with crime and anti democratic views from some refuges.
It is easy to start a buisness in Denmark. We have allot of very small buisneses. We have a few big well known companies as Maersk, Lego and Novo Nordic, We exsport quiete some food products. We have fears of climate change wich can hit us very hard.
As soon as there is a video or few made of norway and tagged, norwegians have a tendency to click in to see what you think of said video and how you will react towards our country. ;)
Norwegian here 🙌🙌 we are watching 👀👀 please do react more to Norway 🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴
It was true for Sweden until 2004. The concept was refered to as "mixed economy". Things like stores were privately owned and operated, while areas important for society that could not maintain a proper level of competition in private hand, was operated by the government. Things like schools, hospitals and powerplants.
This largely changed under Reinfeldth in 2004, and virtually everything that could become profitable for oligarks was privatized at the expense of the taxpayers. No other nation in the world allows as extreme profits from private schools as sweden (they are all publically funded, with no limits how much profit the owners can take out from the money supposed to be used for education). Sweden has become one of the most extreme, if not THE most extreme capitalist nation in the world.
A paradise for profiteers acting like parasites on society.
Fun Denmark has always got the title of the most happy country in the world.
Im norwegian and I love watch your videos of the nordic country's❤
Europe haven’t been leaning truly left since the 50’s. The whole political spectrum has moved right, which gives that even centre-liberal ideas, is seen as left wing.
Sweden isn’t socialist and have never been (nor has the rest of the north). What it has had is a very strong labour force, who to a large part have been unionised.
What there is, is an idea that you have a capitalistic economic system, with a high focus on equality , state funded infrastructure and social welfare. In Sweden, for example, this is made possible by, amongst other things, using what’s called the Swedish model (there is no minimum wage, everything is done in discussion between employer and union)
Socialism is about solidarity, that's why our taxes are so high, and we practise capitalism quite freely, which is a free market, there isn't some gestapo telling us what we can or cannot do in most cases. There are a lot of rules in the building of houses though, and we can't just build whichever car or vehicle we would like to, because there are safety to precedence, such as human lives one's own and others. Usually we regard human lives really high, while dictatorships tend to just send people to the slaughter, "oh don't worry we have more, our country is a baby making soldier machine." "/ We don't practise communist values or corporatism values which are the extreme ends of socialism and capitalism. The blend of growing and at the same time actually caring about other people, is what makes us a balanced system.
In Norway the industries like oil and gas are to a large degree owned by the state, which redistributes the wealth via infrastructure and welfare. So yeah, it has some key socialist elements.
Liked your video, live in Sweden for the past 23 years, bur originally Norwegian. Historically Sweden and Denmark are the two main countries... I hate to say so, but its true.
In theory anyone can achieve the American dream, the only problem is that some people start at the 90 meter line in a 100 meter dash. While some start 50 meters behind the starting point.
Dane here and funny how much you leave us out throughout :D We might be a small country until you take in Faero Isle and Greenland :P But we are very simular to Norway and Sweden and the 3 of us have always had each others back throughout history. So maybe a little look into the Denmark wouldn´t hurt you for sure :D
@XpiRai Hello there! Denmark isn't small except for geographically. Populationwise there are just about as many Danes as there are Finlanders. Of course, surfacewise, Finland is much larger, but that's another matter. We've had to work hard to get the term 'the Nordic countries' more widely known so that Finland and Iceland could be included in the group with Sweden, Norway and Denmark, where we belong because of our cultures, history, politics and values.
There's only one subject where you miss the mark and that is that you three (Sweden, Norway and Denmark) have had one another's back all through history. One would think so, because of the close relationships between those three countries today. But the truth of the matter is that 'all through history' - until the modern era - the Danes and the Swedes have been fighting each other for the control mainly of the areas of Scania (Skåne), Blekinge and Halland. At times, Norway was also concerned. Finland was an integral part of Sweden, its Eastern Province, for some 700 years, and was thus involved in the fighting as well, mainly by providing soldiers to the Swedish army and by acting as a shield against Russia.
Wars were more or less constant and the only longer period of peace in Scandinavia was the period of the Kalmar Union until we come to the modern era, so when we look back, it's difficult to believe that Sweden, Denmark, Finland and even Norway, now so peaceful and close friends, were once enemies and rivals.
@@Gittas-tube Correct, but the point was if someone outside scandinavia tried to get in then all the brothers teamed up and showned them where the door was. And if you have siblings you also know that they fight but it´s never really more then you become good friends again :D I know deaths are not fun and all that but still have a little ironi :D
Maybe do a video about the differences between the Nordic countries. We are kind of alike but there are differences. That might be a good starting point to then look into the different countries
Maybe it’s a thing from when we were Vikings. We are all in the same boat here, we have to make it work, if you have any ideas we can discuss and consider bring them forth.
Cos' we are the greatest nations in the world, and we are bad ass 😊... greetings from Skandinavia Danmark 🇩🇰 the lands of the Free....
Ever since the bourgeois government came to power in Finland the happiness has turned downward, during
the democratic government there was no such problem. Of course, the national debt increased somewhat,
but we were happier then, it seems that we are going to the American model, where
pretty soon people won't even get basic health care unless you have fat wallet
(of course emergencys are taken care of) but like diabetes insulin you have to pay yourself
for example, my medical expenses are around 100€/month, without government help
they would be closer to 1000€/month, I would never be able to afford it.
There are a lot of things I would want to change in my country. But this video makes me very proud to be a Swede!
Hiiii from Norway🇳🇴❤️
Many Countries especially Americans confuse the meanings of the words Socialism and Communism. Communism is the ideology were no person owns basically anything, but the government owns all and everything in theory is commonly owned - this was as starters good idea, but the greed and selfishness destroyed the concept and it became a government (and power and wealth hungering persons nesting in the government highest roles) acting like a Dictator and the individuals fading into non importance at all and into poverty - mind you, not the ideologies fault, but the faults in human nature and personality made it impossible to follow and for ever will be impossible to carry out (Humans are selfish and greedy as basic personalities, only the level of them is changing from person to person) - like seen in Sovjet Union (USSR) and also in China before them taking also elements of capitalism in their ideologies. Socialism or Social country is when the Government is taking the responsibility to offer the basic Infrastructure, Health care, education etc. and providing them free of charge to the citizens and also having safety nets so that no one falls into total poverty and/or homeless. These services are funded by the taxes collected from everyone, so the taxes are higher than "the land of the free" is having, BUT you also get a lot in return. So Nordic countries is truly a balance or a mix of Socialism and Capitalism, but NOT Communism! People especially in the USA are saying this cannot work, but the Nordic countries have shown, that oh yes, it does work - not necessary if the history of the country has taught people to stump on other peoples heads and summon as much wealth and power regardless of other people and make this as a virtue and an American Dream that every one should follow.. When you settle for average wealth, then a wider range of people reach the same sufficient level, making happiness possible widely. If everyone is hoarding wealth for themselves as much as possible, then more people than themselves will remain in poverty and be unhappy!
"Communism is the idelogoy were no person owns basically anything, but the goverment owns all and everything". Wrong, the literal definition of communism is "A stateless, moneyless, and classless society". Therefore there is no government. Of course a country doesn´t work without a government but communism by definition has no government, thus all current "communist countries" aren´t communist but either state-capitalist or socialist.
We just see the best and the worst of other countries and embrace the best and ignore the worst. As simple as that 🤷🏼
In Denmark our government has consisted of a socialist party for like many many years now. Obviously we still have some liberalism and some capitalism even a lot of nationalism aswell. But to say we’re not socialist would be wrong in my opinion.
At least in Finland whenever someone flaunts their wealth or position and make themselves "better" than anyone else, they get called out by literally everyone, including the media. Act like James Corden in a restaurant? You are lucky if you can get a meal from McDonalds after that. Talk down to your empoyees? Your business loses all the clients.
I tragicomic example of this was the controversy of Chinese tourists in Stockholm that refused to leave the lobby at a hostel. They had a booking next day but the hotel was full this day. They wanted to camp out in the lobby but the hostel saud NO. Police was ultimately called and transported them to a park close to other hotels. Should not become world news right? Well guess what... Sczcams.com/video/JVxJ7UKG5XE/video.html
As said in the video it is a mix between capitalist and socialist.
You don't think it's socialist because you have only heard of the most pure form of it.
But what the nordic countries has done is take the best ideas of both and tried to balance them out to make them function.
There are changes afoot. These dictators have been very successful in destabilizing most of the Nordic countries, especially Sweden. For a couple of decades they have seen huge waves of people from Africa and the Middle East - the least culturally equal - invade the countries.
Crime rates are soaring, housing queues are years long in many places and the economic system is under severe strain. Divisions are growing between different religious and cultural groups.
So their irritation with our countries up north should have subsided considerably recently.
We could sort all of this out if we stopped bickering and stopped blaming bs for the issues. Our issues have been not dealing with the problems we have and adding people on top of that, we've always had immigration. We ignored issues having to due with poverty, and then adding on to that pressure by presenting an image to people coming here (and people here) that they will get everything they need and then dropping them to sort out everything on their own without knowing how because taking people in made politicians look good, but they don't want to bother actually doing what is needed to use the workforce coming in as resources, and then being surprised that poverty helps kids be groomed into gangs before they are old enough to understand the consequences (even if the research on this is REALLY BLOODY clear, which I say as a librarian), and ignoring gang issues as long as it's not on their doorstep. The problem isn't authoritarians purposefully sending people to try to "sabotage" us (yes, because the one thing we know about authoritarians is that they like to lose the people they control...?), it's that we want to blame everything except the fact that we are unorganized and focus on everything that doesn't require US to change (yeah, I wonder why the problems always stay the same...). Before it was immigrants, it was the white teen gangs(which still very much exist btw, but it is also inconvenient to talk about those), before that it was the hippies, before that it was the mentally ill, before that it was the Catholics or protestants or whatever - or maybe, it's us just complaining, and not doing our part to solve the problems, you know, like blaming others so we don't have to do our part to WORK TOGETHER. I don't know about other places, but in Sweden, we need the labour of immigrants because we don't have enough people. Instead of making sure the people here get what they need to settle, we give them access to an education in Swedish that is so bad that more people (including immigrants from wealthy countries) prefer Duolingo, cause SFI couldn't teach a Swede Swedish, and the people who come here who are doctors etc. but have already lost everything, we decide to make it too hard for them to get what they need to rebuild, so they end up being cleaners and bus drivers, even if we are desperate to have doctors. We are throwing resources away, and we are so exhausted ourselves, that instead of either looking it up, or just looking around, we accept the bs politicians tell is so they don't have to do their jobs - so we don't have to take responsibility in turn. Just look at the grades in school - my parents have been teachers for 30 years, and they have never had less ability to properly do their jobs, than now. That isn't immigration, it's that people don't raise their kids anymore, instead expecting teachers to do that, and that they aren't even allowed to put a kid that's disrupting outside of the classroom anymore, which means it's pure chaos. That's just one example of how we are opting out of our responsibility, and it has effects for all of society, since teachers are now being pressured to give grades to kids that those kids don't deserve (even if it's illegal), meaning our population is literally becoming dumber. Dumber, more entitled, and take less responsibility than people have for about 100 years when it comes to society. My dad is a workoholic, and he is considering retiring early because of this, and he is a teacher at a private school, with mostly middle Class Swedish kids, that are so bad other teachers want him to go with honom their school outings because he is not afraid to be stern and tell them off, and technically teachers aren't allowed to do that anymore. There are entire classes regularly that are so bad that no teacher wants to teach them. But yeah, it's immigration that's the problem, isn't that convenient...
Sorry about the rant, the frustration is directed towards the subject and not against you 😅 thank you for coming to my TedTalk 😅🥴
Denmark and Norway are like Brother and sister
The socialist factors we have in Sweden (which have been reduced progressivily since the economical crisis in the 70s) are for example the
Hospitals are owned and managed by the goverment/regional.
Schools are owned and managed by the goverment/County. But since private owned schools were introduced a few decades ago they have been taking more and more shares.
Pharmacy - same as above.
The alcohol market is 100% owned by the goverment.
Gambling is 100% owned by the goverment. Except online gambling due to the EU rules.. And very few gambles in shops these days so i guess the goverment lost that market that way.
The list can probably go on a bit further.
Sweden having an Embassy in North Korea as one of the few who still have it.