This police captain is visiting Finland to see how their cops handle crime, or if there even is any. This was an interesting one. @maxhaddad / maxhaddad
I live in Turku, finland, Got a few drinks and was walking towards my car, cops stopped near me and I ended up being driven home by one of them in my own car. That's the story; bye
Reminds me of the time I was at a bar and I remember leaving... apparently I was driven home by the cops because I couldn’t find home and she wanted to join me but my mother kicked the police woman out.
Last time I talked to a cop was when I was drunk and walking home (I live about five minutes from the bar I was in). they just asked me if I was ok and if I needed help getting home. I just told them I live right there and they just wished me goodnight and that was it. I appreciate that they checked on me just in case
Just two points: in Finland the respect does not come from superficial things like what kind of car you drive. It comes from how you treat people. People know to respect police officers without a cool car. The van is more practical, it makes sense. I don`t mind you talking a lot, it is your channel. But I would have liked to be able to hear what they were saying.
@@antcommander1367 Totesin, että tämä on hänen reaktiovideonsa, mutta olisi ollut kiva kuulla ensin mitä videolla sanottiin ja sitten hänen kommenttinsa kyseiseen asiaan. Minulla on oikeus mielipiteeseeni. En ymmärrä tätä tarvetta lähteä kommentoimaan ja ohjaamaan muita kommentoijia.
@@tuijakarttunen9164 täälläpäin yleensä vanhemmat kasvattavat lapsistaan kunnollisia ihmisiä(huonoja poikkeuksiakin toki löytyy) toisin kuin jenkkilässä tämä kunnioitus muita kohden on hyvin harvassa
We don’t like American police cars. The minivan thing isn’t a slight. Our cops vehicles assume you’re an angry ape with a knife. I’d rather see a minivan than the sneaky stuff Americans cops do
Greetings from Finland. Our police education is university level education of 3 1/2- 4 years to become an entry level police. Then there is more spesific education for advanced levels as supervisors and different to different job roles. You guys need to educate more your police, you need to have personality, psych tests, as well as physical strenght test, like we have.
Yes. And especially check what`s the motivation behind wanting to become a police officer, the character, attitude towards people from different back grounds, etc. The long education is a good way to see weather a person really is suitable for law enforcement, or not.
Greetings from Finland also. Our police is not an university level degree. It´s an university of applied sciences- degree. Same level as a nurse, or sort of "half an university degree". Of course it´s still way more than in most places in america. The society there is just really different. We nordic people respect the law, authority and the police so much that in here the profession of a police is a really respectable one. The entry to Polamk- school is really difficult due to huge competition. That´s why the school has a possibility to choose the best of the best candidates, and train them with a big funding. The amount of officers per capita is one of the smallest in the world, thus the money goes to the better training of individual officers. A country with 139 million people would not work with so few police officers. And to improve their education would cost just too much.
@@juhovalio5906 It is actually same as university level bachelor's degree. The difference is that you do not automatically continue to master's like in University. But you can always upgrade it later to master's degree. And to police the same school gives both levels where as bachelor from university of applied sciences are in some fields upgraded to master in universities. That is why the school itself in English is called "Police University College". And you can stop university studies at bachelor level too and be considered graduated. So it is in fact university level education as is the one for nurses. That is kinda why the schools are called "UNIVERSITY of applied sciences"... 😉
@@Aquelll That's true. I forgot the word bachelor so what I tried to explain was that it's not automatically a "full" university degree, yet the level is the same.
@Ф.W.M.C Eiköhän niillä ole henk.koht myös ne isommat aseet, eli kulkee kassissa mukana kaiken muun taktisen varustuksen kanssa. Mutua, ei varma tieto.
In Finland basically every cop is armed with a pistol at all times and most of the patrol's do have "support guns" (MP5) and some more tactical gear for threats involving fire arms. MOST of the times even when you see heavily armed officers in Finland the situation ends peacefully and no shots fired. Everytime a police officer uses (shoots) their gun, there is an internal investigation carried out by other "precinct" to investigate if the use of gun was absolutely necessary. And also one difference I think is that most of the time if Finnish cop uses their gun, the "suspect" lives, because they are trained to aim at limbs first (like leg) to stop the suspect, unlike in america they are trained to aim at the center mass, IF I'm correct.
I think Finnish cops are trained to shoot at "non-lethal" areas (saying non-lethal in quotes because there's really no non-lethal place to shoot) if possible, and only shoot center mass if the threat is large enough to warrant taking a life (e.g. getting shot at). Also, getting shot in the leg can be as lethal, if not more, if an artery is hit.
The finnish police has kind of different approach to their equipment. It's not there to be used, it's there only in case shit really hits the fan and you have to protect your life immediatly. In my understanding in majority of finnish police shootings in history, the police has been the second side to open fire. So finnish police usually only returns fire, doesn't attack. There have been exeptions ofcourse but this is the main line.
Finnish police shoot at center mass if it's self-defence (hätävarjelu). Basically that's almost always the case when service weapon is used. With long firearms they are trained to aim at the limbs if there's enough time.
@@aryanbhuta3382 It's true though. It's an industry against the people. Prisons make bank, they're businesses. That's why they don't rehabilitate, since repeat offenders are their main source of income.
In Finland you don't get fined being drunk at public, unlike in usa. Also if you are drunk there few options that police will do. Like dropping you on home door aka sword taxi. or dropping on drunk tank in night, you get to leave in morning with no fines. So long you didn't do anything stupid, when you were drunk.
And if they arrested every drunk here, theyd run out of facilities to put people in every night by 9pm. Sword taxi lol 😂😂😂 yeah. Only once i took the sword taxi to home at night because i was so drunk that i got lost in the crossroads and i just walked around it untill the cops came,laughed at me and asked AGAIN if im really sure that i dont need help getting home. Which was not even a half a kilometer away...
I’ve seen a lot of reactions to the police and prisons in Norway, Finland, etc and everyone is rightfully surprised at the lower rate of violent crime. Yes, the Nordic countries have a very different way of doing things like policing and prisons but you have to remember, these countries have put in place decades ago a system to improve their society as a whole. Guaranteed healthcare, daycare, excellent education that is equitably funded, “free” college, paid sick leave, vacation time, maternity leave, etc. they have very little in the way of poverty. All of this has created a society where many of the causes of crime, violence are addressed long before people become so desperate that they resort to crime. These countries understand that they are all part of a society and everyone should do their part. Unfortunately, the US has an “every man for himself” attitude that leads to massive inequality in wealth, education, opportunity, housing, etc. There have recently been hints at a potential shift in this attitude. At the very least, there is acknowledgement that the US has major problems and it is not the best at everything. First step in rehab is acknowledging you have a problem so....yeah, maybe some hope for the US but change will be a long time coming due to the power of the corporations and the corruption of politicians. Could take a generation realistically if we haven’t totally screwed the planet by then. Lol.
The minivan - on the contrary: it speaks of authority, threat to the perpetrators: they have barred windows - it's a jail cell on wheels. Driving a sedan looks more fancy or dandy than practical for us: are they going to call girls for a date night? Only the chief drives a sedan - he rarely packs anyone in his car. The van means they're prepared to pack you along, if you resist. If there's a faster vehicle running from them, they call a bike of helicopter for the chase. The van is good for about 90% of the situations.
Many times officers don't even leave the van when they talk with citizens thru an opened window. The seat is so high that they are not "looked downwards", you know.
Also most road cars couldn't drag with those police minivans. They've had some work done. It's also a office. They have a lot of equipment in that car. Computers for access to databases, communications, sometimes a dog etc. Point is that finnish police think their cars as a office on wheels. Almost atleast. I've been pulled from the street for couple of questions once and fined once. When you are not committing anything serious they usually take you to the "office" side of the car and not the "jail" side where they write and print your ticket etc.
@@finlay3849 True - like in any van. Yet the sedan versions have them sitting low - and my impression is they speak to citizens just the same from there.. I see the van as a move of practicality: the 'customers' needing a lift fit their easier than in a sedan. Also if they find some items they need to bring to the station, it's betetr to have some space. The van is about the store space. They've just needed to upgrade the engine.
@@Pyllymysli I've been in trouble with them only when I was drunken stupid 16-23 years old, way back in time. Most of the time I've been helped by them, and I've hlped them with info a few times. Like I tend to call help if I see youngster under the influence of some substance - if it looks like they could suffer from the state they are. Young desperation with drugs or alcohol can be so devastating. I survived it with one car crash - after which I didn't end up too bad, just crazy enough to pass for normal. When the life looks less dramatic 'like here and now', the youth usually start to find their legs and learn to keep their heads between their shoulders. Once they notice life carries - it floats you, if you don't drown yourself. And the boys 'n' girls in blue help savve many of them.
Vans are also easier to see in traffic so if you need help you can pretty much just wave them over as they have a better scope of their area. Vans also are really cool and popular amongkids and it's way better to climb into a Maija than into a normal "car-car".
One thing I realized - the American police officer referred to reporting for duty as an LAPD officer in training. In the Nordic countries, you go through a college education which leads to being eligible to work as a police officer, but you don't know WHERE you'll end up getting a job - there's like 3 police academies in all of Norway which educate ALL the police officers, from the ones walking the street in the capital to the ones sitting in a small office in the boondocks. And not everyone ends up working as a cop - because there's no opening at that time, or because the only avaliable positions are in rural communities all the way across the country and they're can't just up and move away from family etc. So there's much less of a "reporting for duty" mindset, and much more of a "this is a useful higher education which will hopefull lead to a job in the police, or maybe I'll end up utilizing these skills in a completely different way".
i remember in school we had cops visit our school to tell about things and show the squad car etc. the other cop had been a cop for over 20 years and i asked him how many times he had used his gun, he said he never had to even take his gun out of the holster in a real situation.
Here another greeting from Finland. One thing came to my mind. In Finland we can ask police for help for example to find a way somewhere. Police is not considered a frightening but a helpful character. How's that working in States?
I'm sure tourists ask police for help. Citizens tend to keep their distance. If you don't know where something is, look it up on your phone, or ask someone who works in the area. Interaction with police is avoided whenever possible. American police tend to aggressively police, including looking for crime where there is none. And they tend to treat people who come up to them as potential suspects, not citizens in need. Hence the phrase "everyone is a criminal, we just haven't caught some yet."
@@TrailRider1200 That is so sad. We teach out children to go to the uniform, if they get lost. Finnish police always tries to make people calm down and definitely not escalate situations. Of course there’s bad apples in every basket, but it’s the general idea that counts. Then again we don’t carry guns around, so the police here doesn’t have to feel the citisens threatent. All in all, iIt’s a question of mutual trust.
I think it depends on where in the US you live. I’m not afraid to ask police for such things, but my brother was a chief of police and my mom worked for a crime lab, so I was around them in a different setting than most.
In the county I live, we're pretty stand offish. They're like some entity that shouldn't be spoken to unless it's an emergency. And doing so isn't illegal, just sort of rude. If you asked a cop here, "Where is this store?" they'd probably give you a rushed answer and a sort of "why are you asking me?" posture.
I live in a small danish town, about 10.000 people here, no cops, no police station, no patrolling. They have an office here that is open 2 hours a week. So relaxed and nice.
"you have to be able to see" lol what a bunch of garbage. also i think he was confused about the switch between finland and sweden, he was talking as if it was one country or something lolol
@Jokutällane Vaa Yup, that's an instant way to spot it. Or if they're on uppers (speed, ecstacy, cocaine etc.), pupils are super dilated and slow to react.
I was in Houston, TX for work when I got pulled over by the police for forgetting to turn on the headlights on my rental car for about 30 seconds in the evening. For reference, most newer cars in Europe have lights that turn on automatically when you start the engine. The parking lot in front of my hotel and the road next to it were very well-lit so I didn’t notice the missing lights at first. About 200 meters after leaving the parking lot, I was approaching a short darker tunnel section and that’s when I saw that my headlights were off. I quickly turned them on but at the same time saw nearing police lights in the rearview mirror. I slowed down and pulled over to the side of the road as soon as it was safe. Knowing how aggressively the American police can approach traffic stops, I have to say that I have never been so anxious in my life. Luckily, the officer was not overtly aggressive towards me as I tried to be as polite and calm as humanly possible. I was told that usually in this situation one would receive a fine and would have to appear in court for a hearing about ”the case”...! But since I was a tourist in town for only a few days they let me go with a written notice. It almost felt like they were annoyed that they did the reasonable thing and didn’t write up a monetary fine. The whole experience was so surreal to someone from Finland. It really drove home the point that American policing and the justice system are money-making operations first, and those who are socioeconomically most vulnerable are the ones who pay the highest cost. 😓
Reminds me of a vacation where my moms friend was driving. She ran three red light in a row because the lights were hidden in the trees on the sidewalk. The cop started laughing because she didn’t see them at all, none of us had (5 in the car). Let us off with only a warning, told us to look around more and said even if yew had to drive slower make sure to see and follow the traffic lights. Then she got massive anxiety and almost had a panic attack when she got on the highway. What was it like 6 lanes!
When you have seen police vans all your life, there is no loss of authority.. Between a van and a regular car, i feel more at ease with the latter, it is the "black and white" that makes your heart start pounding a bit faster.
Funnily, I lived in my cities (5th largest finnish city) most dangerous neighborhood for almost 7 years and I never witnessed anything scary. Tho I did hear about couple of stabbings during that time. Apparently one was fatal.
I've also noticed that in lot of american cop clips the cops have a gun in hand or a hand on gun right at the start. Or a flashlight etc. They make situation immediatly threathening for the other side. Finnish police mannerism is completely different. They come to you, hands visible, usually in front and they aren't like "ready to go." They are there to ask questions first. One shouldn't be fooled tho. Finnish police is quite elite, their training is well thought and long. They are trained in hand to hand, weapons and anything you think police would use. They probably can also sprint you down in an instant. Atleast if you are an average person. Not to be fucked with, but chill as fuck as long as no one fucks with them.
They're different because their society is different. In the usa you'd be shocked how fast and easily a suspect can pull a gun and blow the cop away, I've watched it more than once
@@PPikes Yeah I'm sure that us police faces violence on more daily basis. Still, times when a perp outwitted or outmathced finnish police can be counted with 10 fingers so I wouldn't put it completely on it. It's not like shit never happens in here. It's true that most of finnish violence involving a weapon is a knife or some other device used for stabbing, but the police can deal with them clearly, and it's not at all unheard of a perp having a gun. For some reason they just decide not to shoot at cops for the vast majority of times. I'd like to think that it's because they know that they aren't in a life threathening situation unless they make it so.
Due to Finnish Police's Sword insignia those cars are sometimes referred by general public as "Sword Taxis" since they might take you home if you are too drunk XD
Sorry I didn't read the comments before I entered my comment. I'm glad someone else mentioned this. I basically said the same thing. I guess he doesn't recognize the speech pattern. Must not have any Jamaicans in his small town. lol.
In Sweden they had about 15 years ago a problem with armored trucks getting robbed and some security guards got killed in the process. The solution they had was then to not issue guns any more to the armored truck drivers so the situation wouldn't escalate enough for them to be killed. It kind of worked as no security guards were killed after that although some trucks were still robbed. And also the police did catch those criminals who were making there robberies soon after so that is also the reason why this was solved back then.
czcams.com/video/hdm3uI4Vf9A/video.html czcams.com/video/PT87ihHc7d4/video.html Finnish Police officers use method least needed force to solve problem. Usually it means only speaking or commanding. It is very rare about people carrying guns in Finland and it is illegal to carry weapons exposed at public places. In finland you get help when you call emergency call center and you can inform there if you see something suspicious. Finnish police forces have tactical gear for situations when there is gun involved. Here is link to Finnish police own youtube channel czcams.com/video/PbY6Hc_7p-w/video.html. There is no reason to fear police officers if you co-operate and/or have not done anything wrong. Just do what they say.
It is interesting to note how the LAPD Captain reacts to the differences in schooling. In Sweden the police academy is considered higher education equal to attending university. And my understanding is tvat they are regarded as students , until they do their probationary service, for which they need to apply after completing their studies and then they are regarded as "police officers in training" not from day one as in the US. It is also obvious to me that the most important thing for him is that what happens to "his" officers is more then what happens to a member of the public. A sort of "holier than thou" mentallity that is really sad to see.
I have my own finnish cop story. I was at a bar and got into a verbal fight that might've escalated to physical, so I left the bar. Problem, the designated driver was still at the bar and didn't know I left. So I started walking back home. But it's a really long walk and the shortest path was through a highway. Which my drunk brain thought was the best way. I walk beside the highway for a while and the police pull up on me. They asked for my ID, took me at the back of the car and drove me to close by gas station. And that was it. The designated driver later found me and drove me back home.
if you want to see finnish police show, search for poliisit.. the section in this video about Umeå is in Sweden, though very similar to finnish edu. The city they filmed in Finland they all spoke swedish bc there's maybe a lot of finnish-swedish citizens.. i was amazed that a scandic tv show would include Finland in their show, so i'm happy with this. lol
The police in Norway have guns in their car. They are not allowed to carry without permission. The guns are stored in a gun safe in the armrest. 1 car always has 2 sets of guns 2 mp5 and 2 P30 pistols and there must be at least 2 officers in the vehicle. The language spoken in the video is Swedish most likely by a Finnish guy.
Good that means that there wont be any Philando Castile in Norway, poor guy shot death by a judgmental killer cop just for having his gun in the glove box of his car.
The police here in Norway has carried guns in certain periods in the last 7 years and when there is a perceived increase in threat from terrorism. The police do want to be allowed to carry around weapons all the time.
It is spoken by a Swedish speaking Finn, there are two official languages in Finland, Finnish obviously, and Swedish. A minority of roughly 6% speak Swedish as their native language in FInland.
Well not 100% right, but not far from the truth either. For anyone not Finnish, there is a small native swedish-speaking minority, and this is that ’language’, it’s still swedish but a different accent, sort of like British english and American english
Swedish with Finnish accent is totally different thing from that. Even you would notice the difference. Finnish consonants are pretty hard that can be heard.
dialect is probably the word you guys are looking for. Accent could be interpreted as "broken" Swedish, but in this case it is not. The Swedish dialects of Finland are actually closer to Old Swedish than most dialects in Sweden are.
I honestly can't remember the last time i have seen a cop in any official business. The one time i saw a cop few years ago was when he was getting his lunch in a supermarket.
The sentence "there is someone who wants to prevent me from returning home" is being repeated again and again, even though it is pure BS. Generally speaking, criminals don't want to kill cops. Killing cops does not bring them any income. Criminals just want to avoid getting caught and going to jail. With adequate training of police officers and with different tactics, it would be possible to get the job done with much less shots fired. And this does not mean letting criminals get away with their crimes. Just doing things differently. More importantly, choosing lethal force as a last resort, rather than as a standard procedure would bring police forces the public's trust and respect. This would also help in catching criminals without a gunfight. Most importantly, by having a better society with smaller high school dropout rate, much fewer people would end up doing crimes.
When you are taught to de-escalate situations, you have less reasons to force your way through issues. You need education and practice to do it right,and the results will follow.
20:00 The police officer is from Jamaica. He speaks English. The official language of Jamaica is Jamaican-English. So he speaks English with a Jamaican accent, influenced by American English. Your language is English as well. American English. There's no right or wrong way on how to speak English. It isn't even the official language of USA. You have an accent as well! American accent! So let him say "syrene" as much as he wants!
Swedish is an official language of Finland. In small parts of Finland most people speak Swedish as their first language. It’s a thing since Finland used to be part of Sweden until 1809 when Russia conquered it. And a weird piece of trivia about Swedish. Until 2009 Finland was the only country in the world with Swedish as its official language. 😆
@@PontusWelin There are also quite a few people in Sweden with Finnish as first language who speak Swedish in a similar accent. Fewer now as it usually gets more 'swedified' with the generations.
When I was 19 - 20years old, and stepped out of a nightclub with my mates (they were totally slushed) I got confused where the railway station was at where we had parked our car (I was the designated driver). There was a police van close by so I walked up to it and asked them directions to the car park. Had had few beers early in the night so I also asked them to give me a breathalyser test just in case.... ..got clear readings and good directions as well... Finnish police are absolute professionals.
6:30 holy fuck if that happened in finland the policeman would get tried (like in a court idk if that's the right word) so hard and no one would be on his side
My friends father in law worked at morgue, doing autopsies, that kind of stuff. He always, in evety situation called the deceased "customers". It's a sign of respect
14:40 that is so interesting. it sounds like the police in LA feel superior to the civilians when in the nordic countries i think the police see themselves as just normal people trying to help people and keep the peace
My only encounter with the police in Norway that I can remember, was one time I was on my way home from a party; I was running late for my bus, so I was sort of running, and it was raining, so I had my hood on. Turns out that I happened to be running away from the place where someone had just been stabbed, and I was stopped by armed police with police dogs looking for the stabber.. I really can't fault them for stopping me then - a hooded figure running away from the scene of the crime - but damn, those dogs are scary!
The Finnish cops had handguns at their hips, but I think they aren't allowed to take them out unless absolutely necessary. Showing it to foreign police officer visiting for a TV show doesn't seem like it fell to the category of "absolutely necessary".
Interesting thing that you probably missed because it was said in Finnish and it was not translated: In the beginning when they were showing the equipment you were wondering where gun was. They showed everything else except the gun. That is because the other police officer said to the one, who was showing them, in finnish that don't take the gun out.
Hello from Finland! I assume you’re an American, because you’re calling our police vans “minivans”. I know you guys are very used to civilians driving monster trucks to drive-throughs and beat cops using military class tactical vehicles, but that’s a bit excessive for our taste 😂
As a Jamaican i can say that i am not afraid of the police officers there. You can have a conversation with the officers and sometimes it get heated but they are not going to take your life and arrest you because you happen to raise your voice. However in America one becomes afraid, especially if you a re a black American. The motto of the American police department says to protect and serve , however they have no wish or intention to do likewise. SAD
In Norway the police are only allowed to _carry_ guns if there is some sort of threat. Right now they're temporarily armed because of the threat of terror, but usually their guns are kept in their cars. They need permission to unlock them.
The whole thing about showing up in a suit an tie.. watch the original The Wave movie from the 70s. It gives some interesting insights in peoples group behaviour and more. We watched it at school in sweden and discussed about human flock behaviour and what it creates. Its fascinating really. So it makes sense that the swedish police officers in training arent expected to wear a uniform at all times. They need to remain somewhat human.
The Wave is based on true events when an american professor was asked the question "How could the germans could turn on their own neighbours during WW2". Something like that..dont quote me. Its a great movie.
The amount of crime in Nordic countries being the same as in the US doesnt really matter because the culture is so different. Not only guns but the behaviour of Nordic suspects differs greatly from the behaviour in the US.
One thing what is different in Finland is unholstering a firearm, counts as use of firearm. Police fire their gun VERY rarely. And when they do, it’s usually injured animal which has to be put down.
It seems like the difference starts with the training between Nordic Countries and USA. It seems like in the US cops are trained to be above civilians, but in Nordic Countries they are trained more like social workers with a permission to use force if necessary. This also may in part explain the Finnish police's habit of calling people customers and the lower crime rate in Nordic Countries in general. Cops here are trained to keep everyone safe, even the ones, who are causing trouble. I may be wrong, but this is my opinion and take after watching this video and the series, these clips are from. Also, I live in Finland and have seen cops in action here. They really try their best to de-escalate a situation. They will tackle people if needed, but they keep calm and they talk to the person they are detaining, to get them to calm down, and they usually do.
I was once black out drunk in my home town here in Finland, policeofficers woke me up and asked where do i live, i gave them address, and gave me a ride home, it was about 500meters.. Then once they stopped me at central of this town, and wanted to see my ID, so i asked if i was in any trouble... Answer was you just looked kinda odd, so we wanted to check if you are wanted.. Ok, here is my ID, then they said "have a nice night where ever you are going."
You cant really compare a small city like Vaasa to LA in terms of policing, try Helsinki (Finland) or Stockholm (Sweden) and you would have a rather different experience. Also there definitely are areas in those cities where police are not considered as highly or as welcomed, nothing like full on gang areas in the US of course
The main difference on why he cares so much about his hands is that, you got such ease to access to guns i can understand why he always cares about the hands. In NORMAL countries, guns are a rarity which makes us care more about if they are going to use the rest of their body parts to attack.
An interesting part about this Max is that Umeå was a city hard struck by a very violent serial rapist who attacked women some decade ago. There was basically mass panic in the whole town. Still they are feeling this safe again. Look up Hagamannen (the "Haga" man) goes to show what a good job the police there are doing to make it feel safe and that citizens are so confident.
I'm from Finland, and I just found this really interesting. I've personally never been in trouble with the law here and when I've had to talk to police I've never had any issues with them. Not saying anyone else hasn't, just my personal experience. The worst I ever saw, which obviously was not good, was seeing a police officer break up a fight between two POC by spraying them with tearspray. So this is really interesting to see what the US cop thinks about it as well as seeing more about the cops. I don't know if it's a thing in the US - I know you have shows about prison. But in Finland we have a show that's on its like 11th season called "The Police" that just follows around police units in different areas of Finland doing their job.
I don't really have anything noteworthy to say, but I wanted to comment anyway (if nothing more, at least for the algorithm)! It's really interesting to get your perspectives about these things. :)
That's honestly disgusting. Kids should be kept away from that shit and shown that police are something you need to be very respectful towards and not a fucking friend who will let you get away with anything. Very very inappropriate to bring them to a kindergarten
I mean... Touching the trunk and pushing it down costs you so little effort. So even if the odds are extremely low, it is still worth the effort. I think all police should adopt this little trick.
in denmark we get more of a "fancy" car thing, like a big posh mercedes or such. and we get those stupid 18 year old boys who drive suzuki swifts, cos thats all they can afford the insurance on, which they then kit out with massive spoilers and skirts on to make them look cool. and all it really does is point them out to the police as people who are likely under the influence and not wearing a seatbelt LOL
@@marycanary86 yes sure! There is status in like nice cars in Sweden too, but not really in the way that like a Volvo or a family Toyota would be disrespected or feel underwhelming.
@@martah5369 i will admit i do judge people who drive an old VW golf cos thats just trash LOL the new ones are whatever but if your golf is older than me.... just miss me with that XD
U should have more followers for sure dude. The way you talk, experience with american prison system and reacting to other systems around the world. I really enjoy watching u.
To be fair, in Finland there is mandatory conscription to the forces for a year I think it is. Teaches discipline and respect to everyone as everyone must do it. Also, free education, amazing healthcare and everything works. Source: I lived there, it’s safe as fuck
I Norway the police don’t have tons on their person, but they usually have some guns in locked compartments in their cars. Still they have more training with weapons than American police
Thank you Daniel :) The more insight the better. Kind of crazy that even though they're used less than over here in the states, the police over there receive more training.
Great video and interesting subject. When I saw the board in the American police station with the number of arrests I was reminded back in the days of working in a call center selling book subscriptions and counting every sale on the board 🙃
No, the name "Manda" is different than "Amanda". Amanda is a very common name in Sweden! :) Manda, on the other hand, is not that common. In fact. I, as a Swede*, has never heard that name before haha! :D
Finland has 7,300 officers for the whole country spread over 11 police districts which works out to 663 officers per district, obviously the larger districts like Helsinki, Turku, Tampere, Roviniemi will take more officers leaving less for other districts then you split that number per district into three parts, night shift, day shift and off duty, 221 officers per district at any one time spread across the amount of police stations in the district, I worked it out one time as 6 officers 3 police vans per police station thats two officers per station during the day two police officers during the night shift and two police officers off duty on rotation. It's why interactions with the police are very rare. I have lived in Finland for 10 years and was stopped by the police once for only having my daytime driving lights on when I should have had my headlights on because it was an overcast day with light rain. As an immigrant I have had to go into police stations more because you deal with official documentation, and those counters are usually part of the police station. Passports, immigration documentation etc. Also as a firearms owner I had to go for licenses and police interviews. So I have probably had more interactions with the police than most Finnish citizens will have in their life time. Oh sorry on four occasions I have had to call the police two occasions drunks needed help, one time the alarm was going off in a gun shop that was across from my apartment, and the fourth time a dog was barking for hours in an apartment below mine and I thought maybe the owner had collapsed or something because it was out of the ordinary.
The no beard thing makes sense if your likely to need a gasmask. In nothern sweden its not very plausible. The mask is not airtight if you have a beard.
Its not the police its the population of the country. I could bet that gunviolence in the US would drop down to the same rate as the nordic countries if the ppl in US would start acting maturely.
About the frequency of police cars: I was in central Mexico City and there were police cars every 2 minutes max. Where I stayed in Reforma Ave due to many government buildings and embassies there were policemen every 50m. Also, there were Starbucks every 100 m on both sides of the street
touching the trunk is also leaving fingerprints to the car, in case of escape or casualty of a police officer. also you get an estimate of the payload of the car
12:53 Yeah, if you look at the UK for instance you have longer training then the US to become a police officer, and even then you're still not allowed to wear a weapon till you're both more experienced and have had more training.
I would think as a finn our police officers do think of the people they detain or contact through their work as customers even when they know the persons in questions are caught red handed. Over all difference is that the population isn't that dense and also polarisation isn't that bad as it is in bigger countries with more dense population. Also inequality and social welfare keeps crime in maybe lesser volume and the criminals aren't that deep into that fight mentality when caught. Also the judicial system as in milder sentences with heavy involvement in actual rehabilitation of people sentenced on crime might be in effect. Lots of different factors on this.
No, he literally means if someone was hiding in the trunk to attack him. He said he made sure to push down on the trunk to make sure it's latched so that if there was someone there, they couldn't get out since you can't open a trunk from the inside.
In Norway and the UK for example, regular officers don’t carry guns while patrolling but there are armed response teams on standby. The officers may also be issued firearms when threat levels are higher I think
There's actually waaaay more reported crime per capita in sweden than in US. In 2002 Sweden ranked #2 on the list, as US was #22. Of course this is more of an indication of willingness to report crime and the prevalence of law enforcement.
According to what source? Not saying it's wrong, just want the source. Maybe depends on what type of crime. Worldpopulationreview gives me crime rate by country: US 47.4 Sweden 47.43 Finland 25.53
@@rebeccaed2018 Source: www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes-per-1000 But that is 2002 so yours might be more recent. And my source had only reported crimes, which is probably different than actual crimes committed.
@@SammalAskel Okay thanks. On the "Crime in Sweden" wikipedia page: "Since 2014 there has been an increase in exposure to some categories of crimes, including fraud, some property crime and sexual offences according to the 2016 SCS.[5] Crimes falling under threats, harassment, assault and robbery continued to climb through 2018.[6] The increase in reports of sexual offenses is, in part, due to campaigns to encourage reporting, combined with changes to the laws that broadened the legal definition of rape.[7]" Comparisons between countries based on official crime statistics (i.e. "crime reports") require caution, since such statistics are produced differently in different countries. Legal and substantive factors also influence the number of reported crimes.[14][15][28][29] For example: Sweden applies a system of expansive offence counts for violent crimes, meaning the same crime may be recorded several times, such as in the case of a spousal rape[30] or gang rape. Many other countries employ more restrictive methods of counting.[14][15] In Sweden, crime data is collected when the offence in question is first reported, at which point the classification of the offence may be unclear.[14][15] It retains this classification in the published crime statistics, even if later investigations indicate that no crime has been committed.[14] The Swedish police and the prosecution service are required to register and prosecute all offences of which they become aware. This can be assumed to lead to a more frequent registration of offences than in systems where the classification of offences is negotiable on the basis of plea bargaining.[14][15] Willingness to report crime also affects the statistics.[28] A police force and judicial system enjoining a high level of confidence and a good reputation with the public will produce a higher propensity to report crime than a police force which is discredited, inspires fear or distrust.[14] Large-scale victimisation surveys have been presented as a more reliable indicator on the level of crime in a given country.[14]"
Armed response units exist, yes. Also, cops mostly do have guns but not all of them. The ARU typically are called out when something larger is going on, then they go out decked out.
its so weird watching the part about Umeå because i actually live in that city aswell. now this video is quite old. now we have more patrolling officers walking around in the city centrum. and the Amanda and Manda is two diffrent names, we have girls named amanda aswell
I think the reason American cops want a kidnapped individual to stay in the trunk is if the situation changes to the worst and for example gun is drawn then the kidnapped person wouldn't be in the crossfire as opening the trunk could also make the driver of the vehicle who is possibly transporting a kidnapped person angry leading to a possible shootout. I doubt it's to do with an ambush.
I live in Turku, finland, Got a few drinks and was walking towards my car, cops stopped near me and I ended up being driven home by one of them in my own car. That's the story; bye
WOW xD
Tavataax toril
Reminds me of the time I was at a bar and I remember leaving... apparently I was driven home by the cops because I couldn’t find home and she wanted to join me but my mother kicked the police woman out.
Last time I talked to a cop was when I was drunk and walking home (I live about five minutes from the bar I was in). they just asked me if I was ok and if I needed help getting home. I just told them I live right there and they just wished me goodnight and that was it. I appreciate that they checked on me just in case
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Just two points: in Finland the respect does not come from superficial things like what kind of car you drive. It comes from how you treat people. People know to respect police officers without a cool car. The van is more practical, it makes sense.
I don`t mind you talking a lot, it is your channel. But I would have liked to be able to hear what they were saying.
@@antcommander1367 I wasn`t talking to you.
@@antcommander1367 Totesin, että tämä on hänen reaktiovideonsa, mutta olisi ollut kiva kuulla ensin mitä videolla sanottiin ja sitten hänen kommenttinsa kyseiseen asiaan. Minulla on oikeus mielipiteeseeni. En ymmärrä tätä tarvetta lähteä kommentoimaan ja ohjaamaan muita kommentoijia.
@@tuijakarttunen9164 täälläpäin yleensä vanhemmat kasvattavat lapsistaan kunnollisia ihmisiä(huonoja poikkeuksiakin toki löytyy) toisin kuin jenkkilässä tämä kunnioitus muita kohden on hyvin harvassa
We don’t like American police cars. The minivan thing isn’t a slight. Our cops vehicles assume you’re an angry ape with a knife. I’d rather see a minivan than the sneaky stuff Americans cops do
Greetings from Finland.
Our police education is university level education of 3 1/2- 4 years to become an entry level police. Then there is more spesific education for advanced levels as supervisors and different to different job roles. You guys need to educate more your police, you need to have personality, psych tests, as well as physical strenght test, like we have.
Yes. And especially check what`s the motivation behind wanting to become a police officer, the character, attitude towards people from different back grounds, etc. The long education is a good way to see weather a person really is suitable for law enforcement, or not.
Greetings from Finland also. Our police is not an university level degree. It´s an university of applied sciences- degree. Same level as a nurse, or sort of "half an university degree". Of course it´s still way more than in most places in america. The society there is just really different. We nordic people respect the law, authority and the police so much that in here the profession of a police is a really respectable one. The entry to Polamk- school is really difficult due to huge competition. That´s why the school has a possibility to choose the best of the best candidates, and train them with a big funding. The amount of officers per capita is one of the smallest in the world, thus the money goes to the better training of individual officers. A country with 139 million people would not work with so few police officers. And to improve their education would cost just too much.
@@juhovalio5906 It is actually same as university level bachelor's degree. The difference is that you do not automatically continue to master's like in University. But you can always upgrade it later to master's degree. And to police the same school gives both levels where as bachelor from university of applied sciences are in some fields upgraded to master in universities. That is why the school itself in English is called "Police University College". And you can stop university studies at bachelor level too and be considered graduated. So it is in fact university level education as is the one for nurses. That is kinda why the schools are called "UNIVERSITY of applied sciences"... 😉
@@Aquelll That's true. I forgot the word bachelor so what I tried to explain was that it's not automatically a "full" university degree, yet the level is the same.
Definitely. Also include training on ethics, psychology and racial bias.
Finnish cops carry handguns. They got submachineguns in the car.
niil o smg autos????
@Ф.W.M.C juu mut onse siltiki aika siistii
@Ф.W.M.C Eiköhän niillä ole henk.koht myös ne isommat aseet, eli kulkee kassissa mukana kaiken muun taktisen varustuksen kanssa. Mutua, ei varma tieto.
@@Paheksu1 soittakaa joku bolisi paikalle tarkentamaan :D voi tosin olla etteivät saa turvallisuussyistä kommentoida asiaa, who knows
Correct, they do have more firepower in the car if needed
In Finland basically every cop is armed with a pistol at all times and most of the patrol's do have "support guns" (MP5) and some more tactical gear for threats involving fire arms. MOST of the times even when you see heavily armed officers in Finland the situation ends peacefully and no shots fired. Everytime a police officer uses (shoots) their gun, there is an internal investigation carried out by other "precinct" to investigate if the use of gun was absolutely necessary. And also one difference I think is that most of the time if Finnish cop uses their gun, the "suspect" lives, because they are trained to aim at limbs first (like leg) to stop the suspect, unlike in america they are trained to aim at the center mass, IF I'm correct.
I think Finnish cops are trained to shoot at "non-lethal" areas (saying non-lethal in quotes because there's really no non-lethal place to shoot) if possible, and only shoot center mass if the threat is large enough to warrant taking a life (e.g. getting shot at). Also, getting shot in the leg can be as lethal, if not more, if an artery is hit.
The finnish police has kind of different approach to their equipment. It's not there to be used, it's there only in case shit really hits the fan and you have to protect your life immediatly. In my understanding in majority of finnish police shootings in history, the police has been the second side to open fire. So finnish police usually only returns fire, doesn't attack. There have been exeptions ofcourse but this is the main line.
Finnish police shoot at center mass if it's self-defence (hätävarjelu). Basically that's almost always the case when service weapon is used. With long firearms they are trained to aim at the limbs if there's enough time.
@@Pyllymysli its te same with the military here in Finland. We have well armed forces in case shit hits the fan but we hope we never need them 😄
Peter him self said that he has been in the business of law enforsement, in Finland it’s not a business.
Well its a small, sneakier business. The whole justice system.
It's an idiom in American English, he's not making a political statement.
@@aryanbhuta3382 i doubt that the part about Finland is part of an american english idiom 🤔
@@aryanbhuta3382 It's true though. It's an industry against the people. Prisons make bank, they're businesses. That's why they don't rehabilitate, since repeat offenders are their main source of income.
But they call suspects "customers".
In Finland you don't get fined being drunk at public, unlike in usa. Also if you are drunk there few options that police will do. Like dropping you on home door aka sword taxi. or dropping on drunk tank in night, you get to leave in morning with no fines. So long you didn't do anything stupid, when you were drunk.
And if they arrested every drunk here, theyd run out of facilities to put people in every night by 9pm.
Sword taxi lol 😂😂😂 yeah. Only once i took the sword taxi to home at night because i was so drunk that i got lost in the crossroads and i just walked around it untill the cops came,laughed at me and asked AGAIN if im really sure that i dont need help getting home. Which was not even a half a kilometer away...
It depends on the state
It's illegal to be drunk in the US? What the fuck.
I’ve seen a lot of reactions to the police and prisons in Norway, Finland, etc and everyone is rightfully surprised at the lower rate of violent crime. Yes, the Nordic countries have a very different way of doing things like policing and prisons but you have to remember, these countries have put in place decades ago a system to improve their society as a whole. Guaranteed healthcare, daycare, excellent education that is equitably funded, “free” college, paid sick leave, vacation time, maternity leave, etc. they have very little in the way of poverty. All of this has created a society where many of the causes of crime, violence are addressed long before people become so desperate that they resort to crime. These countries understand that they are all part of a society and everyone should do their part. Unfortunately, the US has an “every man for himself” attitude that leads to massive inequality in wealth, education, opportunity, housing, etc. There have recently been hints at a potential shift in this attitude. At the very least, there is acknowledgement that the US has major problems and it is not the best at everything. First step in rehab is acknowledging you have a problem so....yeah, maybe some hope for the US but change will be a long time coming due to the power of the corporations and the corruption of politicians. Could take a generation realistically if we haven’t totally screwed the planet by then. Lol.
The minivan - on the contrary: it speaks of authority, threat to the perpetrators: they have barred windows - it's a jail cell on wheels.
Driving a sedan looks more fancy or dandy than practical for us: are they going to call girls for a date night? Only the chief drives a sedan - he rarely packs anyone in his car. The van means they're prepared to pack you along, if you resist.
If there's a faster vehicle running from them, they call a bike of helicopter for the chase.
The van is good for about 90% of the situations.
Many times officers don't even leave the van when they talk with citizens thru an opened window. The seat is so high that they are not "looked downwards", you know.
Also most road cars couldn't drag with those police minivans. They've had some work done. It's also a office. They have a lot of equipment in that car. Computers for access to databases, communications, sometimes a dog etc. Point is that finnish police think their cars as a office on wheels. Almost atleast. I've been pulled from the street for couple of questions once and fined once. When you are not committing anything serious they usually take you to the "office" side of the car and not the "jail" side where they write and print your ticket etc.
@@finlay3849 True - like in any van. Yet the sedan versions have them sitting low - and my impression is they speak to citizens just the same from there..
I see the van as a move of practicality: the 'customers' needing a lift fit their easier than in a sedan. Also if they find some items they need to bring to the station, it's betetr to have some space.
The van is about the store space. They've just needed to upgrade the engine.
@@Pyllymysli I've been in trouble with them only when I was drunken stupid 16-23 years old, way back in time.
Most of the time I've been helped by them, and I've hlped them with info a few times. Like I tend to call help if I see youngster under the influence of some substance - if it looks like they could suffer from the state they are. Young desperation with drugs or alcohol can be so devastating. I survived it with one car crash - after which I didn't end up too bad, just crazy enough to pass for normal.
When the life looks less dramatic 'like here and now', the youth usually start to find their legs and learn to keep their heads between their shoulders. Once they notice life carries - it floats you, if you don't drown yourself.
And the boys 'n' girls in blue help savve many of them.
Vans are also easier to see in traffic so if you need help you can pretty much just wave them over as they have a better scope of their area.
Vans also are really cool and popular amongkids and it's way better to climb into a Maija than into a normal "car-car".
One thing I realized - the American police officer referred to reporting for duty as an LAPD officer in training. In the Nordic countries, you go through a college education which leads to being eligible to work as a police officer, but you don't know WHERE you'll end up getting a job - there's like 3 police academies in all of Norway which educate ALL the police officers, from the ones walking the street in the capital to the ones sitting in a small office in the boondocks. And not everyone ends up working as a cop - because there's no opening at that time, or because the only avaliable positions are in rural communities all the way across the country and they're can't just up and move away from family etc.
So there's much less of a "reporting for duty" mindset, and much more of a "this is a useful higher education which will hopefull lead to a job in the police, or maybe I'll end up utilizing these skills in a completely different way".
i remember in school we had cops visit our school to tell about things and show the squad car etc. the other cop had been a cop for over 20 years and i asked him how many times he had used his gun, he said he never had to even take his gun out of the holster in a real situation.
Here another greeting from Finland. One thing came to my mind. In Finland we can ask police for help for example to find a way somewhere. Police is not considered a frightening but a helpful character. How's that working in States?
I'm sure tourists ask police for help. Citizens tend to keep their distance. If you don't know where something is, look it up on your phone, or ask someone who works in the area. Interaction with police is avoided whenever possible. American police tend to aggressively police, including looking for crime where there is none. And they tend to treat people who come up to them as potential suspects, not citizens in need. Hence the phrase "everyone is a criminal, we just haven't caught some yet."
@@TrailRider1200 That is so sad. We teach out children to go to the uniform, if they get lost. Finnish police always tries to make people calm down and definitely not escalate situations. Of course there’s bad apples in every basket, but it’s the general idea that counts. Then again we don’t carry guns around, so the police here doesn’t have to feel the citisens threatent. All in all, iIt’s a question of mutual trust.
I think it depends on where in the US you live. I’m not afraid to ask police for such things, but my brother was a chief of police and my mom worked for a crime lab, so I was around them in a different setting than most.
In the county I live, we're pretty stand offish. They're like some entity that shouldn't be spoken to unless it's an emergency. And doing so isn't illegal, just sort of rude. If you asked a cop here, "Where is this store?" they'd probably give you a rushed answer and a sort of "why are you asking me?" posture.
I live in a small danish town, about 10.000 people here, no cops, no police station, no patrolling. They have an office here that is open 2 hours a week. So relaxed and nice.
Damn, my town has under 6000 citizens (Finnish town) and we have a police station and a patrolling police car.
Pointing the light at eyes is something that i’ve never understood. It makes the situation hostile right away
"you have to be able to see" lol what a bunch of garbage. also i think he was confused about the switch between finland and sweden, he was talking as if it was one country or something lolol
I think it's to assert dominance or to see if their pupils are dilated
@Jokutällane Vaa Yup, that's an instant way to spot it. Or if they're on uppers (speed, ecstacy, cocaine etc.), pupils are super dilated and slow to react.
I was in Houston, TX for work when I got pulled over by the police for forgetting to turn on the headlights on my rental car for about 30 seconds in the evening. For reference, most newer cars in Europe have lights that turn on automatically when you start the engine. The parking lot in front of my hotel and the road next to it were very well-lit so I didn’t notice the missing lights at first. About 200 meters after leaving the parking lot, I was approaching a short darker tunnel section and that’s when I saw that my headlights were off. I quickly turned them on but at the same time saw nearing police lights in the rearview mirror. I slowed down and pulled over to the side of the road as soon as it was safe. Knowing how aggressively the American police can approach traffic stops, I have to say that I have never been so anxious in my life. Luckily, the officer was not overtly aggressive towards me as I tried to be as polite and calm as humanly possible. I was told that usually in this situation one would receive a fine and would have to appear in court for a hearing about ”the case”...! But since I was a tourist in town for only a few days they let me go with a written notice. It almost felt like they were annoyed that they did the reasonable thing and didn’t write up a monetary fine. The whole experience was so surreal to someone from Finland. It really drove home the point that American policing and the justice system are money-making operations first, and those who are socioeconomically most vulnerable are the ones who pay the highest cost. 😓
Reminds me of a vacation where my moms friend was driving. She ran three red light in a row because the lights were hidden in the trees on the sidewalk. The cop started laughing because she didn’t see them at all, none of us had (5 in the car).
Let us off with only a warning, told us to look around more and said even if yew had to drive slower make sure to see and follow the traffic lights.
Then she got massive anxiety and almost had a panic attack when she got on the highway. What was it like 6 lanes!
When you have seen police vans all your life, there is no loss of authority.. Between a van and a regular car, i feel more at ease with the latter, it is the "black and white" that makes your heart start pounding a bit faster.
I walked through Finland’s most “dangerous” places near my work place over 14 years late at night leaving work. Nothing happened, not once.
so your workplace were in Kontula?
Funnily, I lived in my cities (5th largest finnish city) most dangerous neighborhood for almost 7 years and I never witnessed anything scary. Tho I did hear about couple of stabbings during that time. Apparently one was fatal.
@@Pyllymysli Rajakylä?
@@Sotanuija Toppila. Nykyään kai puhutaan rajakylästä. Toppila on siistiytynyt tosi paljo.
I love it that they actually filmed the episode in one of Vaasa's worst districts.
Just out of curiosity, what is the worst district? I´m moving there shortly
@@mikkokuusela5788 at least the building on 6:09 is this: Konepajankatu 11p
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(lived there as a student)
@@mikkokuusela5788 Olympiakortteli. Used to be very desired district but nowaways far from it. It's often called "Little Mogadishu"
Nordics are build to overall trust :) If there is no trust, things gonna go bad really quickly
Refugee: Hold my beer
@@kershaw5351 They will adjust and learn, it might take time, but there is hope 👍🏻
@@TheNismo777 Hahaha vitun hauska vitsi
@@finnicpatriot6399 Eipä tuo yllätä että wannabe patriootti tulee poteen hauskana vitsinä :)
@@TheNismo777 Mikä ihme on wannabe patriootti?
I've also noticed that in lot of american cop clips the cops have a gun in hand or a hand on gun right at the start. Or a flashlight etc. They make situation immediatly threathening for the other side. Finnish police mannerism is completely different. They come to you, hands visible, usually in front and they aren't like "ready to go." They are there to ask questions first. One shouldn't be fooled tho. Finnish police is quite elite, their training is well thought and long. They are trained in hand to hand, weapons and anything you think police would use. They probably can also sprint you down in an instant. Atleast if you are an average person. Not to be fucked with, but chill as fuck as long as no one fucks with them.
They're different because their society is different. In the usa you'd be shocked how fast and easily a suspect can pull a gun and blow the cop away, I've watched it more than once
@@PPikes Yeah I'm sure that us police faces violence on more daily basis. Still, times when a perp outwitted or outmathced finnish police can be counted with 10 fingers so I wouldn't put it completely on it. It's not like shit never happens in here. It's true that most of finnish violence involving a weapon is a knife or some other device used for stabbing, but the police can deal with them clearly, and it's not at all unheard of a perp having a gun. For some reason they just decide not to shoot at cops for the vast majority of times. I'd like to think that it's because they know that they aren't in a life threathening situation unless they make it so.
Due to Finnish Police's Sword insignia those cars are sometimes referred by general public as "Sword Taxis" since they might take you home if you are too drunk XD
As a Jamaican 🇯🇲 we do pronounce Siren 🚨 (Sy-reen) lol. English is our only language. Patois is a dialect of English.
Sorry I didn't read the comments before I entered my comment. I'm glad someone else mentioned this. I basically said the same thing. I guess he doesn't recognize the speech pattern. Must not have any Jamaicans in his small town. lol.
9:01 "Älä ota asetta." "Don´t take the gun."
I think that they aren't allowed to take them out
In Sweden they had about 15 years ago a problem with armored trucks getting robbed and some security guards got killed in the process. The solution they had was then to not issue guns any more to the armored truck drivers so the situation wouldn't escalate enough for them to be killed. It kind of worked as no security guards were killed after that although some trucks were still robbed. And also the police did catch those criminals who were making there robberies soon after so that is also the reason why this was solved back then.
Please react to the finnish series "Poliisit"! You can find clips of it on youtube with english subtitles. 🙂
Your profile pic is giving me strong confusion :D
@@finlay3849 for me too
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Finnish Police officers use method least needed force to solve problem. Usually it means only speaking or commanding. It is very rare about people carrying guns in Finland and it is illegal to carry weapons exposed at public places. In finland you get help when you call emergency call center and you can inform there if you see something suspicious. Finnish police forces have tactical gear for situations when there is gun involved. Here is link to Finnish police own youtube channel czcams.com/video/PbY6Hc_7p-w/video.html.
There is no reason to fear police officers if you co-operate and/or have not done anything wrong. Just do what they say.
"That's how a police hits" made my skin crawl...
It is interesting to note how the LAPD Captain reacts to the differences in schooling. In Sweden the police academy is considered higher education equal to attending university. And my understanding is tvat they are regarded as students , until they do their probationary service, for which they need to apply after completing their studies and then they are regarded as "police officers in training" not from day one as in the US. It is also obvious to me that the most important thing for him is that what happens to "his" officers is more then what happens to a member of the public. A sort of "holier than thou" mentallity that is really sad to see.
I have my own finnish cop story. I was at a bar and got into a verbal fight that might've escalated to physical, so I left the bar. Problem, the designated driver was still at the bar and didn't know I left.
So I started walking back home. But it's a really long walk and the shortest path was through a highway. Which my drunk brain thought was the best way. I walk beside the highway for a while and the police pull up on me. They asked for my ID, took me at the back of the car and drove me to close by gas station.
And that was it.
The designated driver later found me and drove me back home.
Statically neither Sweden, Norway or Finland is nowhere close to the crime-rate of the US. Just wanted to point that out.
Exactly. The same amount of cops per capita, but not the same amount of crime
if you want to see finnish police show, search for poliisit.. the section in this video about Umeå is in Sweden, though very similar to finnish edu. The city they filmed in Finland they all spoke swedish bc there's maybe a lot of finnish-swedish citizens..
i was amazed that a scandic tv show would include Finland in their show, so i'm happy with this. lol
It is finnish show by Svenska Yle.
And they are saying Norden and Nordic
The host has a very distinct finlandssvenskt accent :D
it's a swedish speaking finnish show
The police in Norway have guns in their car. They are not allowed to carry without permission. The guns are stored in a gun safe in the armrest.
1 car always has 2 sets of guns 2 mp5 and 2 P30 pistols
and there must be at least 2 officers in the vehicle.
The language spoken in the video is Swedish most likely by a Finnish guy.
Good that means that there wont be any Philando Castile in Norway, poor guy shot death by a judgmental killer cop just for having his gun in the glove box of his car.
The police here in Norway has carried guns in certain periods in the last 7 years and when there is a perceived increase in threat from terrorism. The police do want to be allowed to carry around weapons all the time.
It is spoken by a Swedish speaking Finn, there are two official languages in Finland, Finnish obviously, and Swedish. A minority of roughly 6% speak Swedish as their native language in FInland.
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In case anyone is wondering what language this is, it's Swedish spoken with a Finnish accent.
Well not 100% right, but not far from the truth either. For anyone not Finnish, there is a small native swedish-speaking minority, and this is that ’language’, it’s still swedish but a different accent, sort of like British english and American english
@@onelyone6976 Well he said it right it was Sweden whit Finnish accsent.
Swedish with Finnish accent is totally different thing from that. Even you would notice the difference. Finnish consonants are pretty hard that can be heard.
dialect is probably the word you guys are looking for. Accent could be interpreted as "broken" Swedish, but in this case it is not. The Swedish dialects of Finland are actually closer to Old Swedish than most dialects in Sweden are.
@@Tapio86 Kinda funny when you think about it.
I honestly can't remember the last time i have seen a cop in any official business.
The one time i saw a cop few years ago was when he was getting his lunch in a supermarket.
Same here, though the one time I DID see them after moving to my current town, it was in my building for some reason. I just said hi and moved on :D
The sentence "there is someone who wants to prevent me from returning home" is being repeated again and again, even though it is pure BS. Generally speaking, criminals don't want to kill cops. Killing cops does not bring them any income. Criminals just want to avoid getting caught and going to jail.
With adequate training of police officers and with different tactics, it would be possible to get the job done with much less shots fired. And this does not mean letting criminals get away with their crimes. Just doing things differently.
More importantly, choosing lethal force as a last resort, rather than as a standard procedure would bring police forces the public's trust and respect. This would also help in catching criminals without a gunfight.
Most importantly, by having a better society with smaller high school dropout rate, much fewer people would end up doing crimes.
When you are taught to de-escalate situations, you have less reasons to force your way through issues. You need education and practice to do it right,and the results will follow.
20:00 The police officer is from Jamaica. He speaks English. The official language of Jamaica is Jamaican-English.
So he speaks English with a Jamaican accent, influenced by American English.
Your language is English as well. American English. There's no right or wrong way on how to speak English.
It isn't even the official language of USA.
You have an accent as well! American accent!
So let him say "syrene" as much as he wants!
19:45 They do speak English in Jamaica... for the same reason people speak English in the US. It was only granted independence from the UK in 1962.
The language in the start is Swedish. Specifically Finland Swedish. :)
Swedish is an official language of Finland. In small parts of Finland most people speak Swedish as their first language. It’s a thing since Finland used to be part of Sweden until 1809 when Russia conquered it.
And a weird piece of trivia about Swedish. Until 2009 Finland was the only country in the world with Swedish as its official language. 😆
Second official language among sami……. Finnish is the main language here thow
@@PontusWelin There are also quite a few people in Sweden with Finnish as first language who speak Swedish in a similar accent. Fewer now as it usually gets more 'swedified' with the generations.
@Big blue whale it is in some places in lapland.
@@eldakka2163 It is official language in five or six communities in Lapland. So not an official language of Finland.
when 4 or 5 bulky police officers jumps out from that mini van they are going to assert their authority pretty quickly.
When I was 19 - 20years old, and stepped out of a nightclub with my mates (they were totally slushed) I got confused where the railway station was at where we had parked our car (I was the designated driver). There was a police van close by so I walked up to it and asked them directions to the car park. Had had few beers early in the night so I also asked them to give me a breathalyser test just in case.... ..got clear readings and good directions as well...
Finnish police are absolute professionals.
6:30 holy fuck if that happened in finland the policeman would get tried (like in a court idk if that's the right word) so hard and no one would be on his side
police training is basically as engineer training, 6 months is guard
That is a van but not a minivan And Finland does have normal sedan And estate police cars too
My friends father in law worked at morgue, doing autopsies, that kind of stuff. He always, in evety situation called the deceased "customers". It's a sign of respect
14:40 that is so interesting. it sounds like the police in LA feel superior to the civilians when in the nordic countries i think the police see themselves as just normal people trying to help people and keep the peace
The minivan is a prisoner transport vehicle.
From day one, recruits in america are immediately made to feel separate from the public they are serving.
Another great video!Keep up the good work!😊
My only encounter with the police in Norway that I can remember, was one time I was on my way home from a party; I was running late for my bus, so I was sort of running, and it was raining, so I had my hood on. Turns out that I happened to be running away from the place where someone had just been stabbed, and I was stopped by armed police with police dogs looking for the stabber.. I really can't fault them for stopping me then - a hooded figure running away from the scene of the crime - but damn, those dogs are scary!
"Mini van" those get from 0 to 100 in under 3 seconds.
The Finnish cops had handguns at their hips, but I think they aren't allowed to take them out unless absolutely necessary. Showing it to foreign police officer visiting for a TV show doesn't seem like it fell to the category of "absolutely necessary".
Interesting thing that you probably missed because it was said in Finnish and it was not translated:
In the beginning when they were showing the equipment you were wondering where gun was. They showed everything else except the gun. That is because the other police officer said to the one, who was showing them, in finnish that don't take the gun out.
Hello from Finland! I assume you’re an American, because you’re calling our police vans “minivans”. I know you guys are very used to civilians driving monster trucks to drive-throughs and beat cops using military class tactical vehicles, but that’s a bit excessive for our taste 😂
As a Jamaican i can say that i am not afraid of the police officers there. You can have a conversation with the officers and sometimes it get heated but they are not going to take your life and arrest you because you happen to raise your voice. However in America one becomes afraid, especially if you a re a black American. The motto of the American police department says to protect and serve , however they have no wish or intention to do likewise. SAD
In Norway the police are only allowed to _carry_ guns if there is some sort of threat. Right now they're temporarily armed because of the threat of terror, but usually their guns are kept in their cars. They need permission to unlock them.
The whole thing about showing up in a suit an tie.. watch the original The Wave movie from the 70s. It gives some interesting insights in peoples group behaviour and more.
We watched it at school in sweden and discussed about human flock behaviour and what it creates. Its fascinating really. So it makes sense that the swedish police officers in training arent expected to wear a uniform at all times. They need to remain somewhat human.
The Wave is based on true events when an american professor was asked the question "How could the germans could turn on their own neighbours during WW2". Something like that..dont quote me. Its a great movie.
The amount of crime in Nordic countries being the same as in the US doesnt really matter because the culture is so different. Not only guns but the behaviour of Nordic suspects differs greatly from the behaviour in the US.
One thing what is different in Finland is unholstering a firearm, counts as use of firearm. Police fire their gun VERY rarely. And when they do, it’s usually injured animal which has to be put down.
It seems like the difference starts with the training between Nordic Countries and USA. It seems like in the US cops are trained to be above civilians, but in Nordic Countries they are trained more like social workers with a permission to use force if necessary. This also may in part explain the Finnish police's habit of calling people customers and the lower crime rate in Nordic Countries in general. Cops here are trained to keep everyone safe, even the ones, who are causing trouble. I may be wrong, but this is my opinion and take after watching this video and the series, these clips are from. Also, I live in Finland and have seen cops in action here. They really try their best to de-escalate a situation. They will tackle people if needed, but they keep calm and they talk to the person they are detaining, to get them to calm down, and they usually do.
vaasa mainittu, siellä ollaanki jo torilla näköjään..
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I was once black out drunk in my home town here in Finland, policeofficers woke me up and asked where do i live, i gave them address, and gave me a ride home, it was about 500meters.. Then once they stopped me at central of this town, and wanted to see my ID, so i asked if i was in any trouble... Answer was you just looked kinda odd, so we wanted to check if you are wanted.. Ok, here is my ID, then they said "have a nice night where ever you are going."
Police from Finland over 20 years here. Yeah mental difference between USA is like we are different breed. Basic training here is 3,5 years.
SALT is a clothing store here in Sweden, lol.
Haha, I figured it wasn't just salt :) Lol.
@@MaxHaddad it's pretty funny because salt still means just salt in swedish, only thing that's different is pronounciation
You cant really compare a small city like Vaasa to LA in terms of policing, try Helsinki (Finland) or Stockholm (Sweden) and you would have a rather different experience. Also there definitely are areas in those cities where police are not considered as highly or as welcomed, nothing like full on gang areas in the US of course
The main difference on why he cares so much about his hands is that, you got such ease to access to guns i can understand why he always cares about the hands.
In NORMAL countries, guns are a rarity which makes us care more about if they are going to use the rest of their body parts to attack.
Are you saying Normal (meaning pure white) countries, there are no guns?
An interesting part about this Max is that Umeå was a city hard struck by a very violent serial rapist who attacked women some decade ago. There was basically mass panic in the whole town. Still they are feeling this safe again. Look up Hagamannen (the "Haga" man) goes to show what a good job the police there are doing to make it feel safe and that citizens are so confident.
How to get sertain 5k views in yt.
Put "React" and "Finland" into the title
5k aint that much for foreign utuber.
@@tomi_9212 For some it is
I'm from Finland, and I just found this really interesting. I've personally never been in trouble with the law here and when I've had to talk to police I've never had any issues with them. Not saying anyone else hasn't, just my personal experience. The worst I ever saw, which obviously was not good, was seeing a police officer break up a fight between two POC by spraying them with tearspray. So this is really interesting to see what the US cop thinks about it as well as seeing more about the cops.
I don't know if it's a thing in the US - I know you have shows about prison. But in Finland we have a show that's on its like 11th season called "The Police" that just follows around police units in different areas of Finland doing their job.
Joissain jenkki kaupungeissa sen kuvaaminen on kielletty, koska se näyttää huonontaa kaupungin imagoa.
@Raimonster Person/people of colour
I don't really have anything noteworthy to say, but I wanted to comment anyway (if nothing more, at least for the algorithm)! It's really interesting to get your perspectives about these things. :)
On average year, Finnish police fires 10 times one's gun, that's all police departments combined
In Norway the police visit schools and kindergardens.And if they are working at a concert they talk and even dance with people!😊
Same in Finland, it is part of their job, they also have designated school polices that visit classes regularily.
That's honestly disgusting. Kids should be kept away from that shit and shown that police are something you need to be very respectful towards and not a fucking friend who will let you get away with anything. Very very inappropriate to bring them to a kindergarten
@@casperix3741 wtf are you on about
@@casperix3741 lol what are you even talking about
@@casperix3741 a wannabe Stalin.
I mean... Touching the trunk and pushing it down costs you so little effort. So even if the odds are extremely low, it is still worth the effort. I think all police should adopt this little trick.
It's neat. Someone explained to me what it was for, I think it's ingenious now. :) I agree with ya.
If your answers would be "I like guns " or "i hate criminals" you really wouldn't be right person to become a police 😂
Police didn't wanna show his gun because its pretty much not a thing in Finland to take out real gun in public.
Don't think the car-status link is as obvious here as to you. Most people here don't drive "intimidating" cars and it's not really a thing.
in denmark we get more of a "fancy" car thing, like a big posh mercedes or such. and we get those stupid 18 year old boys who drive suzuki swifts, cos thats all they can afford the insurance on, which they then kit out with massive spoilers and skirts on to make them look cool. and all it really does is point them out to the police as people who are likely under the influence and not wearing a seatbelt LOL
@@marycanary86 yes sure! There is status in like nice cars in Sweden too, but not really in the way that like a Volvo or a family Toyota would be disrespected or feel underwhelming.
@@martah5369 i will admit i do judge people who drive an old VW golf cos thats just trash LOL the new ones are whatever but if your golf is older than me.... just miss me with that XD
U should have more followers for sure dude. The way you talk, experience with american prison system and reacting to other systems around the world. I really enjoy watching u.
To be fair, in Finland there is mandatory conscription to the forces for a year I think it is. Teaches discipline and respect to everyone as everyone must do it. Also, free education, amazing healthcare and everything works.
Source: I lived there, it’s safe as fuck
How many immigrants do you have from 3rd world countries?
@@atlanticrf what are you talking about? In the UK or in Finland?
I Norway the police don’t have tons on their person, but they usually have some guns in locked compartments in their cars. Still they have more training with weapons than American police
Thank you Daniel :) The more insight the better. Kind of crazy that even though they're used less than over here in the states, the police over there receive more training.
It all depends on the city, state or county. There is no national police system in the USA.
Great video and interesting subject. When I saw the board in the American police station with the number of arrests I was reminded back in the days of working in a call center selling book subscriptions and counting every sale on the board 🙃
No, the name "Manda" is different than "Amanda". Amanda is a very common name in Sweden! :) Manda, on the other hand, is not that common. In fact. I, as a Swede*, has never heard that name before haha! :D
Swedish person in English is a Swede, just like the root vegetable kålrot.
@@-AnjelThanks! Haha yeah, i know.. i got it wrong this time! I will correct my self.
This film are 6 years old and things are changed.
Finland has 7,300 officers for the whole country spread over 11 police districts which works out to 663 officers per district, obviously the larger districts like Helsinki, Turku, Tampere, Roviniemi will take more officers leaving less for other districts then you split that number per district into three parts, night shift, day shift and off duty, 221 officers per district at any one time spread across the amount of police stations in the district, I worked it out one time as 6 officers 3 police vans per police station thats two officers per station during the day two police officers during the night shift and two police officers off duty on rotation. It's why interactions with the police are very rare. I have lived in Finland for 10 years and was stopped by the police once for only having my daytime driving lights on when I should have had my headlights on because it was an overcast day with light rain. As an immigrant I have had to go into police stations more because you deal with official documentation, and those counters are usually part of the police station. Passports, immigration documentation etc. Also as a firearms owner I had to go for licenses and police interviews. So I have probably had more interactions with the police than most Finnish citizens will have in their life time. Oh sorry on four occasions I have had to call the police two occasions drunks needed help, one time the alarm was going off in a gun shop that was across from my apartment, and the fourth time a dog was barking for hours in an apartment below mine and I thought maybe the owner had collapsed or something because it was out of the ordinary.
The no beard thing makes sense if your likely to need a gasmask. In nothern sweden its not very plausible.
The mask is not airtight if you have a beard.
Its not the police its the population of the country. I could bet that gunviolence in the US would drop down to the same rate as the nordic countries if the ppl in US would start acting maturely.
About the frequency of police cars: I was in central Mexico City and there were police cars every 2 minutes max. Where I stayed in Reforma Ave due to many government buildings and embassies there were policemen every 50m. Also, there were Starbucks every 100 m on both sides of the street
touching the trunk is also leaving fingerprints to the car, in case of escape or casualty of a police officer. also you get an estimate of the payload of the car
2:15 To be fair, he did say he was from Jamaica originaly and moved to America and maybe they pronounce it differently in Jamaica? 🤔
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Yeah, if you look at the UK for instance you have longer training then the US to become a police officer, and even then you're still not allowed to wear a weapon till you're both more experienced and have had more training.
I would think as a finn our police officers do think of the people they detain or contact through their work as customers even when they know the persons in questions are caught red handed.
Over all difference is that the population isn't that dense and also polarisation isn't that bad as it is in bigger countries with more dense population. Also inequality and social welfare keeps crime in maybe lesser volume and the criminals aren't that deep into that fight mentality when caught. Also the judicial system as in milder sentences with heavy involvement in actual rehabilitation of people sentenced on crime might be in effect.
Lots of different factors on this.
No, he literally means if someone was hiding in the trunk to attack him. He said he made sure to push down on the trunk to make sure it's latched so that if there was someone there, they couldn't get out since you can't open a trunk from the inside.
Any American sedan car has by law an emergency trunk latch opener, usually a glowing in the plastic handle.
jupp. Stopped the "problem" before it happened.
Remember the whole Finland is the size of about one state
Still, this much competence from a small country is pretty wonderful, I’m sure the US could replicate this with some social and justice based reform
And homogeneous..
In Norway and the UK for example, regular officers don’t carry guns while patrolling but there are armed response teams on standby. The officers may also be issued firearms when threat levels are higher I think
Would have been interesting if they had done this comparison in Stockholm. Both Stockholm and Los Angeles has a population of 3.8 million.
There's actually waaaay more reported crime per capita in sweden than in US. In 2002 Sweden ranked #2 on the list, as US was #22. Of course this is more of an indication of willingness to report crime and the prevalence of law enforcement.
According to what source? Not saying it's wrong, just want the source. Maybe depends on what type of crime.
Worldpopulationreview gives me crime rate by country:
US 47.4
Sweden 47.43
Finland 25.53
@@rebeccaed2018 Source: www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes-per-1000 But that is 2002 so yours might be more recent. And my source had only reported crimes, which is probably different than actual crimes committed.
@@SammalAskel Okay thanks.
On the "Crime in Sweden" wikipedia page:
"Since 2014 there has been an increase in exposure to some categories of crimes, including fraud, some property crime and sexual offences according to the 2016 SCS.[5] Crimes falling under threats, harassment, assault and robbery continued to climb through 2018.[6] The increase in reports of sexual offenses is, in part, due to campaigns to encourage reporting, combined with changes to the laws that broadened the legal definition of rape.[7]"
Comparisons between countries based on official crime statistics (i.e. "crime reports") require caution, since such statistics are produced differently in different countries. Legal and substantive factors also influence the number of reported crimes.[14][15][28][29]
For example:
Sweden applies a system of expansive offence counts for violent crimes, meaning the same crime may be recorded several times, such as in the case of a spousal rape[30] or gang rape. Many other countries employ more restrictive methods of counting.[14][15]
In Sweden, crime data is collected when the offence in question is first reported, at which point the classification of the offence may be unclear.[14][15] It retains this classification in the published crime statistics, even if later investigations indicate that no crime has been committed.[14]
The Swedish police and the prosecution service are required to register and prosecute all offences of which they become aware. This can be assumed to lead to a more frequent registration of offences than in systems where the classification of offences is negotiable on the basis of plea bargaining.[14][15]
Willingness to report crime also affects the statistics.[28] A police force and judicial system enjoining a high level of confidence and a good reputation with the public will produce a higher propensity to report crime than a police force which is discredited, inspires fear or distrust.[14]
Large-scale victimisation surveys have been presented as a more reliable indicator on the level of crime in a given country.[14]"
Armed response units exist, yes. Also, cops mostly do have guns but not all of them. The ARU typically are called out when something larger is going on, then they go out decked out.
Hi Max,
Jamaica is a former British colony, so that's his Jamaican accent...
its so weird watching the part about Umeå because i actually live in that city aswell. now this video is quite old. now we have more patrolling officers walking around in the city centrum. and the Amanda and Manda is two diffrent names, we have girls named amanda aswell
I think the reason American cops want a kidnapped individual to stay in the trunk is if the situation changes to the worst and for example gun is drawn then the kidnapped person wouldn't be in the crossfire as opening the trunk could also make the driver of the vehicle who is possibly transporting a kidnapped person angry leading to a possible shootout. I doubt it's to do with an ambush.
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