KORG MINILOGUE // Fixing The Useless Knobs
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Why and how to upgrade the poorly designed knobs on the KORG MONOLOGUE and KORG MINILOGUE synths or any other synthesizer, keyboard or DJ gear.
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If only it was as easy to replace the ones you regularly find in the CZcams comments section!
Nice to add a splash of a personal touch! They look like little espresso pods to me!
haha, none of those in our community!
@@WoodyPianoShack Damn right, one of the many things to love about it, similar vibe to Floyd Steinberg's one too!
@@WoodyPianoShack I appreciate how thick you use your British accent in this video. I get the same vibes listening to you talk that I felt when I watched all the Sharpe movies in a 1 week binge.
Love content like this occasionally mixed in with the tests and demos
Woody fixes his knobs. Nope. Can’t think of any joke I could insert here…
Thanks Woody. This is very relevant to my Minilogue. Bring on the colour.
I bought them also by Ali express....cost nothing. But I switched them back to the original XD knobs. The color ones looks so cheap. All knobs come from china. Woody keep on playing love your video's.
glad to see Korg still has decent pot meters made of metal, not plastic like the expensive Arturia
Useful video, Woodie. Thanks.
thank you Woody. I'm now going round all my synth/Midi Devices to see what I need!
Very practical. Looking forward to more vids.
Thanks for a nice video again. Please put links in the description for the shops, as I have tried buying knobs from china that didn't fit anything (too small hole to fit the pot-meter) - and that makes me hesitate to try again.
Subscribed ! Happy to see some knobs !!
I first noticed this channel when you did that knobs mod for the Electib2, A very striking thumbnail. I followed suit and then did the same for the Push 2... Great to see the same advice again.
Not just Korg, but you hit a pet peeve of mine. A practically no- cost option for a manufacturer, why the hell don’t they have marked indicators on synth knobs??
I don’t think the color-coded sliders on the original ARP Odyssey have ever been matched in terms of showing the user, especially beginners, what is going on on the synthesizer.
That monologue is a keeper
Hi Woody I did exactly the same to mine, Minilogue XD, full set of dayglo orange and a grey one on filter... Not cheap when you tot it up BUT for older eyesight very useful. Top vid. 😊
the xd has a nice white stripe on the knob tho, so don't see the same necessity, unless you just want to color code the various sections or functions!
@@WoodyPianoShack I just like orange and dim rooms 😁
The back of the Microkorg XL is like that. It has moulded raised lettering to label the inputs and outputs but you would almost have to paint them white to see them without a bright light.
There are several points which need to be checked before replacing the knobs:
1. - shaft diameter. All Japanese and Euro synths use 6mm diameter. Unlike American and guitar knobs which use quarter inch = 6.35mm - which will fall off the 6mm shaft.
2. - type of shaft. D-shaft, or D-type, or sometimes called flat sided. And spline shaft, or push-on or star shaft. On D-shaft knobs relation to the indicator line is important as outlined in the video. For spline shaft it isn't because ther is 36 degrees at which indicator line can be set (as opposed to just one on d-shaft).
3. - recess on the knob. Can see that at 11:10 how the yellow knob sits much higher than the original black because the yellow one has no recess for the mount. Too high recess on the knob and it wont turn the shaft to much positve recess and it will look like the knob doesn't belong to the device.
4. - diameter and height of the knob (also in relation to the recess for the d-mount). There is usually a bit of allowance here, in most cases knobs can be wider which helps with more precise setting before it starts overlapping the inscription or getting too close to adjacent knobs (Volca and Modal Craft2, Aira, etc). Too short knobs will make the pots look like mushrooms and a cheap mistake.
In regards to painting-over the indicator lines - it is the least expensive solution. Obviously don't do it mounted on the synth (why would you do that anyway: you want the synth to look better not worse) and don't do it if you have monkey grip with a finesse of a hammer. Otherwise take a trip to your local modeller shop and peruse the selection of paint applicators for model making. There is 10s if not 100s of colour options to choose from specifically for precision marking. On my monologue I opted for aluminium silver colour indicator lines so it matches the aluminium switches. Horses for courses.
I resemble that remark!
I really like the Chroma Caps, and would not want to steer people away from them as they are such high quality. But understand they are expensive and if they are out of reach, then seems like these could be a passable alternative.
black and yellow is nice
Well the KORG MONO/MINI LOGUE need some modifications but this is nice. I will see if I can do it with my PSR-E473
Some nice differently coloured (and shaped) alternatives available from Thonk for 6mm D shafts
I’m amused you like this potential rainbow arrangement but was put off by the a lot more subdued red and black of the Minilogue Bass 😂
Other than looking a little cheap and taking the premium construction and aesthetic down a notch, the skirting covering some of the labels is a bummer. Look forward to your demos.
you can change the panel and knob color, but don't mess with the black keys! yeah, fair points, but something must be done with these useless knobs. this synth is all about programming so this still seems the best option.
@@WoodyPianoShack true, tactility is so important for a device like this. Maybe you can source some quality metal ones with clear indicators. We’re on a slippery slope here, this is how mechanical keyboard enthusiasts keep trying to find the ultimate keycap and never be satisfied.
If you’re going to mod a keeper, don’t use a white marker, use actual white paint (perhaps like a plastic model paint or maybe an artist’s acrylic paint, probably not industrial stuff with harsh thinners unless you know it won’t melt the plastic) to fill the grooves, then wipe the surface clean. (In ceramic arts this technique is called mishima.) This should work and there’s almost no way to not get clean lines because how clean the white lines get would depend only on the shape of the grooves and the grooves are clean lines
Nice. What about the cutoff knob which is bigger, is that also included?
sadly that is hard to source. might just keep it and put a white dot on it or something.
I call these knobs (the ones you had already) the "yamaha knobs" because these are on almost every Yamaha synth I have. But now they are using ruberry knobs that I find quite uggly (on my Montage M6) but that's a matter of taste. The chines knobs you just received are a little less nice because of the white base I prefer the colored base on the Yamaha knobs :)
yeah, i was not completely convinced on the white base either! will be interesting to see the final effect.
Yo Woody, those knobs are completely servicalbe. Just use Eddoing 751 paint marker, it's not that hard. Otherwise it looks like a Moog Grandmother in reverse. LOL
I end up taking a paint pen, and I painted the lines on both my monologue which I sold and my Minilogue which I kept
I do like the knobs that you bought, though those are very cool. Think I’m gonna purchase some.
Thank for a great idea 💡
Regarding colour-blindness: you missed the lavender (purple) knob in the line-up. It does look a bit like grey, though.
I've been wanting something similar for my Native Instruments A49. I always get confused with visually mapping the onscreen KK controls with the A49 controls ... is it knob 5 or knob 6, or knob 7? So you're constantly counting from the left to right! Even worse when Komplete Kontrol decides to miss a controller out and you have a gap in one of the bank of 8. Yes the A49's controlls have touch feedback but that's only for the tiny screen. Sorry for the long rant but I hope you see my point. Thanks for another useful video Woody
yeah, the counting a row of same knobs at a glance not very good, color code them in 2 groups of 4 for example
I never noticed this problem, as the Monologue is such a simple synth I seldom look at the knob positions. What bugs me about the stock knobs is that (despite a nice feel) they are dust magnets, and dust that lands on them sticks to them and chemically integrates into the knob.
I know what you mean... I added fingernail polish to my Minilogue knobs!
Yeah, they look kinda cheap. But that's fine. It's not like the Korg ones look luxurious or collectible... I'd be happy with some grey, red, green and yellow knobs ❤
All you do is take liquid paper draw the lines in and gently wipe the overspill with a q rip and alcohol. Looks slick after
I would like to see the Korg Monologue with all yellow knobs. 🟡🟡🙂🟡🟡
Great video Woody, Have you seen if these knobs fit any other gear? Nord, Yamaha?
have not tried them so i don't know. as long as they are standard shaft size and right orientation should be fine
@@WoodyPianoShack OK thought you have like a dozen synths at any one time in your "Shack" to try
They also have a "rubberized" lyer sprayed on 'm. That will turn into sticky goo.
yeah, i did read about that too, thanks for bringing it to our attention
Anybody know the knob size of a Korg volca? I tried getting some little knob caps for that but the shaft wasn’t the right size for them.
no idea, except small! get yourself a micrometer and measure
Hi Woody,
I think I found the ones on Alibaba but it’s offering 90° and 180° what’s the difference? Do you know I’m a little confused.
i covered it in the video in depth, please check again instead of me repeating myself in a long comment
Ok
I see now
I guess I skipped that part.
Thanks 🙏🏻
You missed the light grey knob at 7:18 but I'm not mad at ya lol It happens.
Those cheap knobs do look cheap to me. All the same size too so not so great for the Korgs.
I can not believe I watch a video on color knobs. 😀
Electribe 2 is a usual suspect... so many knobs that could easily been deep in the menu, and vice versa... i think that Minilogue have more useful functions that really need colored knobs!
I would try the white stripe approach personally. I really like the look of the smooth, black knobs Korg uses more than these colored knobs.
Or just 3d print them :)
I just put a @ $100.00 worth of those caps in my shopping cart.
We've got a lot of these in our government if you could help. 😂
The worst synth I've seen is the Modal Skupt, I had to use a magnifying glass. Modal has since gone out of business and I'm stuck with it, who's going to buy a synth that has no support?
Awhh, not what I thought you were going to advise me on Woody ...... as I could have done with that for work environment...(🤣🤣)
Fisher Price colours, in my opinion. Would be good to see a more sophisticated end result
well you could just order in black, white or grey, the choice is yours!
I thought you were going to pick up a soldering iron. Also the replacement knobs don't really look very good. They look kind of cheap.
yeah, maybe! but they look as cheap as the expensive chroma caps knobs, except they are cheap!
Yeah I was going to grab a blow torch to change the spark plugs on my car but… WTF are you talking about ?
Do understand your point, yet... With pots an actual position indicates what setting you're actually having. With encoders (like on the Korgs) they are giving pulses that are recorded and stored if desired. Recalling a sound may have a knob lets say at 12 o'clock while the actual setting may be 5 o'clock. Hope this makes sense 🤣🤠
it does make sense and you are right. but say I take a factory preset and tweak it, i want to see at a glance at what position I left the filter and cutoff at! hope that makes sense too :)
@@WoodyPianoShack 🤠
I don't need to see my knob to know it's pointing left...
Hanging to the left, shriveled?