Did Celestia/Primordial One save Teyvat from the Honkaiverse? (Genshin Impact/Honkai Star Rail Lore)
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
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im ngl im not a hi3 aficionado so please feel free to correct me. i read everything and pin corrections. anyway making a genshin impact lore video that ties into a small honkai star rail and honkai impact 3 story recap just cause it rquires talking about the imaginary tree and all that. but its time genshin impact lore gives its due respect to the heavenly principles. archons too i know they dont respect them. fear not the same as respect. also why is no one leaking Gallagher gamplay for star rail ive seen like a 1000 acheron leaked gaemplay WHERE MAN?
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Heavenly Principles
1:48 Imaginary Tree (honkai lore)
3:46 Aeons and Primordial One
5:14 Eggshell and Alice
6:36 Heavenly Principles are Right
#genshinlore #genshinimpact #honkai #honkaistarrail - Hry
you almost had it right with the worlds on the Imaginary tree, it's more like Honkai impact is in one leaf, Genshin is in another leaf, Honkai Star Rail is in another leaf, and etc. That was the only thing you said that ticked me off 😅
Yup, This. ^^^
No, what he said was mostly right. The only real problem is that it implied that each leaf on the tree is a star system, not one planet, due to the imaginary energy being around the edges of each star system.
@@Somthing123-js3hb The leaves on the Imaginary Tree are parallel universes. This was stated in the Second Key manga and in the Hi3 main story. Remember that in HSR the Imaginary Tree is just a theory, while in Hi3 people like Otto have directly interacted with it. The explanation about the tree in HSR is from the perspective of people theorizing about it, unlike in Hi3 where it's not a theory.
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859Homulabs made an entire series explaining how the multiple universe idea was mostly due to mistranslations. Also most of what we know in any hoyoverse game including Hi3 is from sources that aren't all knowing so any explanation can still be seen as a theory unless it is confirmed by the devs or a higher being.
@@Somthing123-js3hb Ggz has THE highest beings in Hoyoverse. So that's reliable lore wise. Also the universe functions like a multiverse, so it's not technically wrong to think of it that way. It just doesn't function like you're standard Marvel multiverse.
The primordial one: I do not wish for dominion but I can't watch this common world suffer.
Anyways I also thought about this once while wondering why did the primordial one fight the sovereigns. Maybe back then even the sovereigns were dealing with issues that could almost destroy them and their planet and the primordial one just wanted to help.
I too, have always been hesitant to jump to the conclusion that the primordial one just came to teyvat and declared war off rip. we just dont have enough info
I believe it's very likely that the Primordial One came from a world that was destroyed, similar to the Traveller twins, but their mission was to create a new home for humanity, so colonizing an already populated world was acceptable to them. I think it's gonna turn out to be a similar situation to General Zod in Man of Steel, where they have no issue terraforming Earth for the sake of saving their homeless race. However, they must keep it a secret from humanity, lest they learn of their celestial origins and crave the knowledge that comes from the Abyss, which is what we already know Khaenr'iah did, obtaining knowledge from other worlds and accidentally unleashing beasts from beyond the veil, which caused the Cataclysm and resulted in death and destruction for the whole continent. @@Shush7717
If they are so benevolent,why did they order orobashi to die?
THE PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS IS HERE
Always will be on the side of Phanes no matter how evil they are 🙏
been a while since we talked genshin huh not diluc
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliaWE MISSED IT 🙏
Short answer? Yes. Considering that Teyvat was canonically shown in the main story of Honkai Impact 3rd within the SoQ. Otto viewed Dvalin within chapter 17.
Where can I find this? Please?
@@lakitaharry9715 czcams.com/video/D9UuOpsqI70/video.htmlsi=Z1fg8ZNR0nfAZbus
At 2:12:18
@lakitaharry9715 I sent a link, but those always get deleted for some reason. Look up Honkai Impact 3rd, chapter 17. No commentary. Then, skip to the last minute of the video. You'll find it there.
Bro is sponsored by celestia.
if sustainer says jump I say how high
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia lmao
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia based, all Hail Celestia
i might be crazy but…..
I think he likes the primordial one…..
A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS
:D
Because Celestia are the actual good guys?!
@1:16 These sound effects when bringing up the "Primordial one" with these images are great lol
bwaaa
Get used to it bruv
@@socalnoodle5767 Already am 😎
I kept laughing every time it came up. xD
It's gonna be even funnier when we finally meet the Primordial one and it turns out she's a cute waifu or something
Celestia and the Primordial One aren't natives of Genshin Universe. They came from a different universe, but we don't know the reason why and where.
Then the Primordial One and the Four Shades created Teyvat. I think something happened in the Genshin Universe, which led the Primordial One to create Teyvat. Making me believe that Teyvat is in a destroyed universe, most likely a bubble universe floating in the Sea of Quanta.
***Not every fallen universe in the Sea of Quanta are dead or destroyed.
There's 2 choices: Large Bubble Universe or Small Bubble Universe
1st Choice: Large
- Since, Teyvat is pretty big I will assume that it's a large bubble universe.
Since, large enough bubble universes can syphon energy through their surface to get energy from the Sea of Quanta, and I believe
that's the purpose of the "egg" of the Primordial One (For example like a Solar Panel).
2nd Choice: Small
- But, if Teyvat is more of a small bubble universe it's possible for it to attach to an already existing branch of the Imaginary Tree and syphon the trees energy. I believe this is where the Spirit Trees comes in aka the Irminsul Trees that supports the Primordial One's Pavilion from the Sun and Moon Book.
(For example Teyvat is basically a Tumor on a Branch of the Imaginary Tree).
Unbelievable Choice:
- It's also possible that were attached to the root of the Imaginary Tree, which means were both part of the tree and in the Sea of Quanta.
That's why we need both the Irminsul Tree and the Primordial One's Egg Shell. To syphon the Energy from both the Imaginary Tree and the Sea of Quanta.
teyvat existed before phanes arrived, the sovereigns were here
I think that's the best primordial image to date 0:29
figures u like it lol
Marcus. This opportunity is quite hard to come by. Nice to see you again
@@TheUnintelligentOne stupid boi did u see columbina returned
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia??? Returned?
Theyre my hero thats for sure
Based on honkai impact almost certainly some thing or person has created the bubble universe teycat lives in for this very reason. The recent sa/su thing seemed to be almost directly saying this
Lol teycat 😺
Lmao now its the PURRRRRMEOWDIAL ONE a progenitor cat HAILING from beyond the stars ✨✨✨✨
AHAHA
sa and su are different peoplewhich one?
I sometimes wonder since HSR is one leaf and HI3 and Genshin are other leaves, are the traveller twins traveling different worlds in the Genshin leaf or are they travelers in the sense that they travel to different leaves? Because that is two vastly different powers
yes you are correct. the travelers going between leaves would mean they were far stronger then we had originally assumed
I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be the case. It can definitely work, but at the same time, not work, since the PO came to Teyvat and attacked first (from what we are told), then took the dragon's powers. But if they are the good guy, then Focalors giving Neuvi his full power back is the real mistake.
It makes sense that the PO is a good guy because everyone that got knowledge (FK) or power from beyond the continent of Teyvat only brought problems, so yeah, why not want to keep that shit out in the void.
acceptable loses
Considering this theory and The Aeon of preservation’s efforts to conceal the universe and keep worlds separate from one another… What if the little white orb circling around Qliopath is Teyvet?
u just reminded me qlipoth is also building a wall aint he. my lord.
If you stop to analyze, every time something from outside Teyvat appears it always ends up bringing chaos:
- The Primordial One
- The Second Who Came
- Abyssal Power / Forbidden Knowledge
- The All Devouring Narwhal
- The Abyss's Twin
The only exception at the moment is the Traveler and perhaps the 3° Descender, so the Primordial One having isolated Teyvat from the rest of the Multiverse to keep humanity safe would make sense and explain why Celestia cut off contact after the war with the Second since not only the Primordial One must have been weakened but also paranoid.
now ur getting it
Considering the fact that the 3rd descender(who was the possibly the dragon king juiced on abyss energy) had to be jumped by the primordial one and the second who came,then chopped to bits to produce the gnoses because phanes was injured,its safe to say that he caused chaos too.
@@Artwolf007 im not a fan of nibelung being the third descender
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia it is possible tho. Guess we'll have to wait and see
You're pretty much right. Teyvat is canonically (as in confirmed within Honkai Impact via a cameo and from Mihoyo themselves) part of the Honkai Universe cosmology. There are a lot of parallels between Hi3's concept of bubble worlds in the Sea of Quanta and Teyvat.
Your understanding of what the Honkai isn't entirely right but it's not your fault because it comes from an earlier point in Hi3rd's story. The real explanation is a spoiler. A non-spoilery thing I can tell you is that Honkai energy and Imaginary energy are exactly the same.
ah i see. i plan to either play or watch a hi3 walkthrough so ig ill learn then lol
Don't watch Dawit at 3:00 AM challenge (gone wrong)
AHAHAHAA
jaystations videos be like
@@-Veee- its actually been ages since iv heard that name
The Primordial one doing some Kevin Kaslana shinanigans fr. The moment the Honkai gets there, gotta pull a Project Stigma or pray to Kiana Expy
I think the traveler would be up to the task to atleast keep them on bay for a while. I think they are some sort of anti honkai weapons send out to find s new home for their original people
Akivili’s explorations set the star rail tracks which allow for interstellar travel which is what most people use to travel between worlds.
Do Alice count?
@@amieldelacruz7010probably
@@amieldelacruz7010 alice has been said to be nigh omnipotent, im sure she has her own way. but she could too
This is a Phanes appreciation video 🙏
7:43 AINT NOBODY MESSING WITH PHANES AFTER THIS TUNE 😭
One point is to be careful with the wording as I was a bit confused at first when you were mentioning worlds and universe and planets and using them interchangeably but then I understood what you meant.
the imaginary tree is the foundation of the multiverse. And the HI3 universe is one leaf on this tree as is HSR and Genshin. Welt manages to jump from one leaf to the next. It's said that the universes closest to each other on the imaginary tree resemble each other with slight variations and the further away from that leaf you go the more different that universe is.
The nameless in HSR travel from planet to planet helping people. Afaik they don't traverse the multiverse. They stay on their own leaf.
ah so all the worlds in hsr are in the same leaf, ok
Funny when I mentioned in the last liben event (the one that implied star rail) that the heavenly principles must be protecting teyvat from the aeons whoa I stumbled upon this gem of a video.
FATE
interesting theory, i seen threads about this, or similar to say that's why genshin doesn't suffer as much as it should due to protection of a higher being. Could be primorial one, could be something else... we shall see i suppose as the story goes on. overall tho, nice viideo!
If you want an entire explanation of the Imaginary Tree and See of Quanta, I will give it to you. We might not share the same lord and savior, but yours and his shades deserve the highest of praises for what they done.
YES :D.
Damn
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
The Imaginary Tree itself is interesting because it is considered to have sprouted from the Sea of Quanta from Honkai Impact 3rd. However, everyone is an unreliable narrator in that story because it is all pure hypotheticals. However, in GGZ, the Imaginary Tree is an existence created by "the corpse of a dead god"/"essence" of the Lord of Myriad Gods, who was killed by one of his creations known as Thanatos (the reason why for this death I have no concrete information, but it is probably because the Lord of Myriad Gods wanted to die). However, it is to be noted that we might not be on the same Imaginary Tree as the one in GGZ because even if they exist in the same "continuity", there are multiple beings capable of creating another Imaginary Tree or giving someone else the ability to do so.
The Sea of Quanta, on the other hand, is a vast network of information that most people cannot process because it is scattered and jumbled like crazy. The information can be from any world, dead or alive, but for some reason, the Sea of Quanta is older than the Imaginary Tree. Both cosmic entities try to consume each other with that probably that is the reason why there are so many versions of characters on different worlds because the information is being recycled.
The Imaginary Tree leaves and branches are complicated as, at one point, worlds are shown as leaves and at another time as branches. However, the leaves can be explained as part of a branch in the imaginary tree, so the main world and sub-worlds are bubble worlds in the Sea of Quanta. So the branches are actual worlds while leaves are worlds meant to fall into the sea. And it just so happens to seem that the world of Teyvat is in the Sea of Quanta that surrounds the world of Honkai Impact 3rd. Why do I think this? This is because Otto, a character from Honkai Impact 3rd, actually sees the world of Genshin while using the Cosmic Juggernaut, which seemingly can only see worlds within Earth's Sea of Quanta (Honkai Impact takes place on Earth, by the way). This is where the Primordial One's benevolence can be shown.
The Sea of Quanta is unknown to have worlds fall into it becoming bubble worlds/universes, and what are these worlds known for doing? Dying! So the Primordial One likely noticed this dying bubble world and decided to show benevolence by landing upon Teyvat and saving the entire world by creating an "anchor". An anchor is an object/entity that prevents the Sea of Quanta from tearing a world apart. Whether this be Irminsal or the Eggshell, I do not know. Also, the Sea of Quanta is known to have monsters bleed into other worlds, the Eggshell could just prevent these Quantum "Shadows" from coming into Teyvat. This could also explain why Alice wants to help protect the "borders" of Teyvat because the Eggshell is literally blocking off the Sea of Quanta. Also, it makes sense why Alice and the travelers can go to different worlds because if they were traveling around branches, it would be near impossible, but in bubble universes, you can technically walk/float to other worlds within a short period without traveling millions of miles/lightyears.
However, worlds don't fall into the Sea of Quanta willy-nilly, meaning that the Dragon Race would have likely died out without the benevolence of the Primordial One. Plus, there is a chance that the Primordial one and the humans that were "created" by it were just people who came across the world by drifting and happened to land on it by chance, meaning that they were stranded. The dragons, seeing them as invaders, most likely attacked first, while the Primordial One just fought back. That is most likely why the dragon race still exists because the Primordial One's intention was never to kill anyone. This also explains why the world of Teyvat seemingly is surrounded by the "Abyss", which is just the Sea of Quanta.
Also, since the Will of Honkai looks for life that is intelligent, the more advanced a world is, the more likely it is to attack a race, and by having Celestia nuke/ sending a nail to more advanced worlds might also prevent the Honkai from noticing Teyvat.
TLDR: The Primordial One probably saved everyone from being consumed by the Sea of Quanta, including the Dragon Race. Such a benevolent deity!
Any questions?
Also, nice video!
W poem 9:05 Bro cooked w/ that one
it had been a while since i made one
The agenda is of top priority
maintained :D
You got it mostly right, but Penacony, Jarilo 6, Luofu are all on the same leaf in HSR. We know Aeons and Emanators and Herrschers can traverse the Leaves but apart from Welt and Bianka we have only been doing "normal" space travel in HSR, doesn't mean we can't have a Leaf jump at some point, especially if Welt finds a way back to Earth
Edit: Forgot to mention the Hyperion Crew, really would like to see The Captain being playable in HSR if there is a Crossover
Yeah this was my thought especially with Sampo's presence on Penacony, even though he MAY perhaps be a Fool, I doubt he's an emanator. And I had the theory that Teyvat may exist within one of those Bubble Worlds (if I'm remembering HI3 lore correctly) and that's why the sky is fake
ah ok thanks for the clarifier.
Can't anyone travel the leafs in star rail now due to the existence of the train tracks created by akivili.
I think they said That there is an imaginary barrier around each star system and this was supported in hi3 as well.
@@Somthing123-js3hb Yeah, like I said, Akivili seems to have connected some Leafs with the Trailblaze, but we haven't been to them Yet, we only know they exist and is one of the ways the people in HSR's universe CAN travel to other Leafs, but the Trailblaze wasn't working properly since the Stellarons started popping up, Pompom says that when we land on Jarilo 6 we can't depart until the Stellaron is dealt with because the Imaginary energy is disturbed. So at one point Leaf travel was possible, but we don't know how the situation is at the moment
not all herrschers can travel through the imaginary tree and as far as i know it has never been stated that aeons and emanators can do the same
Let’s go a Dawit video about the Primordial One, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars. I love these
come brother. let us rejoice together
Buddy loves the primordial one more than himself😂😂😂
:D
I loved the sound effect you use when saying "Primordial One"
Bro might be onto sum
3:17 Ummm Ackshelly 🤓 the Imaginary Tree was created Via the Corpse of an Outer God from the game Gun Girls Z, which is the game where the concept of Honkai came from to begin with. The SoQ is the spilled blood of that Outer God and what's in the SoQ now is due to the Herrscher of the End/Finality and Cocoon of Finality taking off branches of the Imaginary Tree. The SoQ came from the Tree and not the other way around. The Honkai was created at the beginning of time and it functions in the Hi3 universe through the Cocoon of Finality drawing Imaginary energy from the Tree and superimposing it onto the "proper world." The entire tree is ruled over by a being known as the Will of Honkai, which is like the god of the Imaginary Tree that is in both Hi3 and Ggz.
I know that probably meant nothing to you, but I just had to type that. W video! 😂
I'm pretty sure that the imaginary tree existed before the death of zues in ggz it was just that their death was what caused it to expand to the size it currently is.
@@Somthing123-js3hb I know it was created via the Corpse of Zeus. That much I know. I did play Ggz before the global was shut down. But yes, the reason it expanded to the current size is because of the blood (SoQ). The tree absorbs it and grows while the SoQ tries to submerge the tree like Otto talks about.
it didnt mean nothing to me, i like reading about lore, thanks :D
Is this story explained in current GGZ chapter or in the beginning GGZ chapter? I dont have time to play that game since this 3(HI3, HSR, GI) are more than enough to me to play and read.
Can you do a theory on why kafka won't text me back?
where were u on september 1st 1939
"Honkai Impact The Third"
..No. No it's just Honkai Impact 3rd.
good to see you too taco
I had a longer comment prepared...but then CZcams comments decided to erase all my efforts and I don't wanna repeat myself...
So I'll basically just say that...eh, you've got a decent enough grasp on the Imaginary Tree and the Sea of Quanta. Maybe next time we dive in Honkaiverse deeplore I'll find the strength to blast of all you with my megaton post.
BRO RIP AHAHAHAA
It doesn´t affect the main point of the Theory but in Star Rail the term World means Planet. The IPC goes from world to world to expand its territory, Topaz traveled to Jarlio VI, Sampo met with Sparkle, Chadwick went from the Herta Space Station to Penacony and more. If they were diferent dimmensions it would mean EVERYONE can do interdimensional travel like its nothing and that isnt the case
ah true
Had me in tears with that beautiful poetry at the end there…
lovely
I noticed that in Genshin they have this thing when some creatures do some actions for good reason but it is hurting humans in someway and I thinks it’s the same for PO. For example Elynas he was trying innocently to discover the world but he was doing damage for humans or that wolf boss (I don’t remember his name lol) who was sending windstorms to humans because he thought they will eat it if they are hungry (I don’t remember the story completely but I think you understand what I mean).
My idea is PO gives tough love to humans that’s kinda extreme sometimes, if you trying to get forbidden knowledge you’re done, if you’re trying to make other species into humans you’re done.But it’s all for humanity sake because PO loves humans in a twisted way
yes :3. although people really should stop going after forbidden knowledge
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeah PO is valid for not allowing forbidden knowledge into teyvat
I think Sa's story in Hi3 intrigues me the most with so many similarities that remind me of Teyvat
HOLY SHIT
PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS????
ALL HAIL PRIMORDIAL ONE
PRIMORDIAL ONE IS LIFE
ONE OF US
Khaenriah is advancing tech. Thats why they destroy it.
Remember Honkai get strong when civilization advances.
Even teyvat solve the honkai remember there's sky people too that harness the honkai energy after the honkai is gone in HI3rd (APHO story)
I love you Phanes, youre the GOAT.
fantastic
Well Teyvat maybe is a bubble world from the sea of quanta which may be created by the destruction of one of the worst wars of Teyvat (probably the first against the second descender). The walls (the false sky) actually protect Teyvat from being absorbed by the sea of quanta.
I can't wait for your future Natlan videos!
lmfao when natlan comes out?
Thrilled! Love this video, man! Love it! 💖
and i love u
Bro was held at gunpoint by Celestia while making this video
i was holding the gun
The primordial one formed teyvat and since it's on a seprate plane and is protected not advance enough to be contaminated by Honkai.
As someone who has never touched Star Rail in any capacity, I’m theorizing that “Forbidden Knowledge” may actually be this Honkai thing on a small scale, and the Abyss is both the general area outside the shell, but also the Sea of Quanta.
could be. i am not to familiar, but these terms seemed similar in the surface level research i did into the topic
THE PRIMORDIAL ONE 🚨🚨🚨🚨⚠⚠
SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST
you should look into the Gnosticism lore that inspires alot of genshin and honkai starrail lore, its very worth it and im currently studying it for some theory crafting.
Seeing how Gnosticism works im not entirely sure that Phanes had pure intent with teyvat.
Phanes seems to be based on Yaldabaoth/ demiurge,
In Gnosticism there are 7 archons (Depending on where you get ur sources can be 12 or 14) Aeons made by an all creator god and the demiurge who was made by an aeon, however the demiurge believes they are a true god/ are the only god as when they were born they did not look right so their mother fucking threw them away lmao) Anyways, they made archons and humans and all this stuff, made a fake heaven that they reside in and yadayadayada.
Phanes could be shielding the Aeons from teyvat yes, but they could also be doing it to live in ignorance, maybe not wishing to come to terms with the fact they arent all powerful, back by how after one of the great incidents they were weakened. If humanity is happy they(Phanes) are, because they arent threatened, they keep that wool over their eyes. I've also seen theories saying that possibly humanity was wipped out elswhere and phanes brought it to teyvat to re-nurture it. For all we know, they are simply playing god in their gilded island, like a child with its toys, the people marked with the visions to insure nothing gets out, the archons held on leashes. Honestly phanes need to get their money up and not their funny up!!! we aint got time for this.
Any civilization that comes close to learning the truth is wiped. The great wars/ cycles could be used to wipe away any doubt of their power.
Idk im just chilling.
Also seeing how they fucked up the 3rd descender so bad, maybe the descenders are an important part of the plan, afterall its heavily theorized that the siblings were summoned to teyvat, but couldnt leave.
Once again i have no idea, might make a video adressing this stuff.
im aware of the demiurge. however I dont think we know enough about Phanes to know whether he foolishly believes himself to be "the one above all" The Primordial One is a name given to it by humans and furthermore the demiurge is one who is ignorant to a higher power, given Phanes came from beyond the stars and set up a barrier to keep things out, id imagine Phanes knows the true nature (and gods) of the universe.
Also the twins being summoned was confirmed right? Otherwise what did the heavens respond to?
genshin always do this take the inspiration and seprate it and mix it with fairy tales and mythos but again phanes would be far more different from what gnostism talks about demiurge
Let's see the incidents according to neuvi 1st and 2nd made gnosis from 3rd's body didn't say they killed or anything so we can't say anything like they fk up the 3rd nah that's just headcanon since the way was actually against nibelung and invaders from beyond
Other is how it is said the creator has yet to arrive means phanes is not exactly on teyvat or anywhere to save sustainer and the world from burning thus the line "sustainer is dying, creator has yet to arrive, but the world shall burn no more for you shall ascend" this line is for traveler (most likely as it speaks to players)
Meaning phanes is not in teyvat
and neuvillette saying the world of past was ruled by formidable father but now the world is covered in filthy feathers
Nahida says now humans have set their eyes on stars and the Abyss
All in all phanes isn't the bad or good guy they introduced humans to teyvat taking dragons home just for humans they lead them for a long time till the war of vengeance where the world system was ruined and them trying to fix it
We can most certainly say whoever is overlooking teyvat's protection has deemed humanity unworthy of saving and only try to protect the land not the people anymore considering humans past deeds
And funny thing is traveler act like a human while they're not everyone thinks they're human except few they don't share their name with anyone on teyvat hiding their true name from all beings so 2 things are possible it's either
Phanes has abandoned teyvat
Phanes true name is known to someone and they're controlling them
2nd throne is the ruler of current heavenly principals
And my most intresting guess phanes has set out for abyss to search for a way to fix the world and got corrupted
@LookingforEmilia Gnosticism core belief is that they believe in something alien that don't give a shit about them. It's a belief that you in the end don't really matter. It's very depressing. Other religions believe that there god actually cares about them while still claiming that it's perfection. What Gnosticism asks is why on earth would something that is perfection care about a lifeform like humans. That is why Genshin is not going to have a happy ending if it does they have not followed Gnosticism. In Gnosticism different type of humans exist that have the ability to become closer to said alien god. Those would be the spiritual the Psychic and the material. Now I strongly suspect this dictates what you are reborn as within Theyvat.
psychic - "soulful", partially initiated. Matter-dwelling spirits. pneumatic - "spiritual", fully initiated, immaterial souls escaping the doom of the material world via gnosis. kenoma - the visible or manifest cosmos, "lower" than the pleroma.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Yeah lol, sorry about any mistakes make in that i was extremely sleep deprived. Im just offering possibilities. About the traveler being summoned, its more so heavily implied, we cant say for sure until is 100% show to us just because of how hoyo works so ill always just refer to non confirmed stuff as theory/ implied sry.
I really hope Phanes is super strong and cool, but it would be interesting if they had a god complex/ inferiority complex when it cam to the Aeons/ Greater powers.
I really liked your video, and will be continuing to watch and follow ur theories.
@@osmial Yeah thats about what i think too.
The leaves in the inaginary tree are universes since if there were worlds then welt yabg would have an easier time going back to his version of earth
I'm happy we're back talking about Genshin and Phanes-senpai
hi bel
Thank youuuuuu❤️
AHAHA HAI TEEMO
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Seems like you learned the hard way who this guy is hehe...
Hear, ye all, our most high priest, Dawit; he speaks truth.
Hail the Primordial One, the Benevolent!
HIGH PRIEST? I LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT
it's not technically verified or anything but HEAVILY implied that the last arc of part 1.5 of Hi3 takes place on the literal planet of teyvat (or what it used to look like) and basically revealed the identities of the big players from teyvat's origin (including THE PROGENITOR GOD lol), and some of the historical events from genshin in real time. makes me crazy that more people aren't talking about this though it could maybeeee be because it would be deemed actually too spoilery.
The idea behind the theory is actually solid, with only some bit of lore scuff here and there. All hail Primordial One! All hail Heavenly Principles!
A world isn't necessarily a single planet per see.
A world is a continuum of space time, regardless of size. It can be as small as a single point, your takeout box, or our universes.
There is an alien race that sustain the pocket dimension they live in by pretending to be newborn world and trick the Imaginary Tree to provide it with child support(?), implying that worlds also naturally expand.
So, a planet like Jarilo VI is not a leaf by itself, it is a part of the leaf that is the Star Rail world, which apparently were originally a bunch of isolated star cluster/galaxy size worlds/leaves until Akivili connected them with each other, according to the data entries of Star Rail.
seems like the word "world" is deceptive then, seems like "universe" or galaxy is more appropriate
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia ye, but universe tend to make people think of infinite size one like our own when it's not necessarily the case.
In CN and JP, a world is occasionally called a universe, but most of the time they consistently use "world" - 世界.
"Universe" - 宇宙 is most consistently used to refer to the entire tree, though it's technically closer to what popular media call a multiverse, due to encompassing all quantum variances of all worlds.
I’m sorry. I rewatch these videos for The Primordial One. The pictures kill me, the lore and style are cool af too, but… The Primordial One, A Progenitor God hailing from the stars! That sh*t is Epic!
Honestly, after this video now i kinda understand a little more the Primordial One. I mean have you seen does god like monsters form HSR? Mf are complete psychos. And not even just the gods of HSR but it’s people
ONE OF US
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia no! wait! WAIT! AAAAAAAH-
RIP KHAENRI'AH
eh
You missed one Primordial One (sound) 😂. Great video!
NOOOOOO SOMEONE NOTICED AHAHJVFUAIHWBFIUARBV
Another one.. thank you.
lol
guns girl z/houkai gakuen 3 is also part of honkaiverse
If it is the case then is the Primordial one as powerful as an aeon ? or they who already lost thier planets or universe through an aeon and knows the tactics to protect Teyvat by defeating the dragons ? One thing for sure, I have always believed that things aren't always the same as they are shown in game. Genshin has always been in a light mode though we have a strong & in depth lore which means we are in the normal human's phase (healed) cycle currently. There is not going to be a villain but the villains or authorities who wants to destroy each other for fulfilling thier own agendas otherwise Focalor's sacrifice would mean to nothing which I hope doesn't happen and plays an important role in the future updates. We have so many new characters getting introduced in game who are really powerful like Skirk and Surtalogi from Fontaine, Deshret, Nibuleng & Sinner from Sumeru and extra extra. The plot is going to thicken for sure especially this year with Natlan. Can't wait..
Imagine 10 years later some celestial being (probably even more primordial than the primordial one lol) will come and say I created those leaves or the whole imaginary tree to protect it's habitants from X (use your imagination to put here even bigger enemy than Abyss, Void or something like that) and it goes on and on like that.
Also, I heard at one event, one Honkai game Idk which one gave Fischl from Genshin for free. It wasn't just an "event" huh? Fischl literally isekaid to Teyvat I guess.
huh, i forgot fischl slithered her ass into hi3. why we dont get anyone from that game for US. we get ALOY?
You forgot that welt managed to travel between Honkai third universe and hsr universe please check up on this.Might make for a new lore vid
im aware of this, but what did it have to do with this vid lol
Bro cooked really well with the storytelling. And please, not Yoimiya & Fishl at 08:08 😭 such a great example to compare, thank you oh The Primordial One, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars!
0:37 You shoudl dive into honkai impact the 3rd🙂
hmmmm
The primodial one, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars
:D
From my understanding genshin's world isn't safe or hidden from the honkai, it seems to have just not advanced enough to be attacked
damn. so what ur saying is an advanced nation is required for the honkai to attack?
i wonder if one of thise ever existed on teyvat
1:16 yo isn't that the library owner big wise owl from Avatar?
been a while max my boy
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia sorry king, I was so busy. Finally I got some time to enjoy your banger Genshin theories once again.
I think you got the basic understanding of honkai impact Lore That everyone came to understand before a certain chapter I just know that after the certain chapter it goes even deeper😅 In its too much to put into a single comment
But I do know it's better to refer to the Chinese text. Because apparently the english text gets some things wrong😅
yea apparently english text uses words wrong lol
What if the Thanes is the Eaon of trailblazing that disappeared ?
Is a good character, has the power to do it and travelled enough to find Teyvat.
akivili is trying to the find the end of the tree, why would it abandon its journey. although it did like to interact with humanity so there is that
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia maybe there is something interesting in Teyvat.
this could also explain why the heavenly principles didn’t go after furina and fontaine even after deceiving them
wdym
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i just thought they would be mad after what focalors and furina did
they should be mad. no one knows why they didnt retaliate following focalors actions, other then they are "sleeping"
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i like ur theory about the heavenly principles wanting to prevents things from the outside getting inside too me it explained why fontaine isn’t a priority for them
no relation with the discussion, but at 1:27 we can se a pilar recently destroyed, obviously by the fight between the twins and the sustainer, the rocks are even "red" or with a "burned" effect...
sometimes i see people theoryzing about this place being destroyed by a war or as a proof that the primordial one or the shades are dead, but actually is just destruction caused by the fight we see literaly in the first scene of the game
pretty sure that scene takes place before we fight the sustainer. Or wait im an idiot, I thought u were talking about the lumine running scene lmfao
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia no, there's a little fight before, in the screen we choose which twin we will play there's literally 2 pillars burning in the background
it's a little more complicated. Kiana Finality solves the issue but the game heavily hints that there are countless worlds and possibilities. Now there is a possibility that the "water" that is called "primordial water" is the sea of quanta, and the properties it has resembles what Quanta could do. But rather than being a vertical type of deal, in Genshin it surrounds the entire world threatening to crush it. So the Primordial one built a barrier called the firnament. But this solution seems to be only temporary already cracks within the firnament visible. 90 percent certain that honkai energy and the abyss energy are related to each other. It kind of acts the same way but on beasts instead of humans. (In honkai impact humans cannot coexist with honkai energy. In Genshin it's more described as a decease in that regard. Suggests that Honkai impact humans were more advanced. Which leads one to think that Genshin takes place before Honkai. It fits with the timeline were Genshin is very much about inventing technology rather than having it on hand. It is possible that this is the origin story for how Honkai energy came to earth. It is also possible that Theyvat is pre historic earth it sure borrows stories as well as geographic from earth. The vessel for it the Abyss gate is already there. The heavenly principles are put in this world to prevent that from ever happening by any means necessary that is why they have a giant tree that can give people amnesia. And I don't think giving the stakes of what honkai energy later does, they give a fk about the people living in this imaginary one. Honestly makes the Cataclysm of this game look like a joke.
is primordial water related to primordial sea in genshin?
@LookingforEmilia sea of quanta is the imaginary sea from honkai impact. Primordial sea is the water that surrounds Theyvat outside of the Firnament. The hole that is being made into the fake sky is what I believe the firnament. Skirk lived outside of the firnament and had as far as I understand no connection with the outside world. It's a little more complicated. Basically the tree Irminsul is upside down and the fruits of that tree are the stars. It is upside down because Irmin is a different way of saying Odin and he hung upside down to learn to decode the runic alphabet. Okay so now you have the stars in the ground instead of a real sky, a fake sky holding back a bunch of water I am not sure for what purpose yet. The real sky should be somewhere in abyss not sure if it's up or down it's confusing. The fruit of that tree become people I think I am not sure I am fairly certain that it's connected to the memories of the Cataclysm. The roots of the tree goes down to the Abyss so it's nurtured through what comes from there. And if the tree is upside down similar to how the abyss order tried to worship a statue of the seven upside down, down should be up because Theyvat is mirrored. There are several proof of this in domain areas the sea level being turned upside down in Fontaine. So now I am thinking the Abyss was the original heaven, but nobody knows that anymore.
I'm a simple man, I see the word 📣📣📣PRIMORDIAL ONE📣📣📣 accompanied with the name dawit, I click the video along with that thumb up icon
LMAO WE ON ONE
I WAS MISSING YOU SO MUCH
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🔊🔊🔊
HI FELIPE LONG TIME NO SEE :D
Now this is what I’m talking about >:)
did u just change ur pfp? u love boondocks huh
0:40 what they never tell... is the timeline 😉
Right or wrong it is pretty clear that Celestia being 'the bad guys' is far to lacking in nuance. Much like the other factions in the game they undoubtedly act with noble intentions. Even if the methods can be or appear to be cruel. I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of characters in Genshin that are at roughly the power of a god are morally grey. Which makes sense given what any entity with a human like ego and godlike powers would have to deal with on a psychological level.
wtf is going on with ur name. first it was fatuusdottore and now its nowaylarry lmao
Odd, I've had the same name on YT for over a decade. I think you've had a bit to much Forbidden Knowledge.@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
yea youtube was tweaking for a sec there lol and just names everyone fatuusdottore
bros cooking 🥘 🥘
COOKIE
THE PRIMORDIAL ONE. A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS.
:D
My lust for Alice can not be contained by some eggshell!!!! The elf mommy that protects us >_
u sound sane
It's not really necessary to bring any HI3 into it; the Primordial One is clearly protecting it's group of humans.
However I don't feel that you need to assume that the Primordial One's goals are incompatible with humanity moving on from Teyvat eventually. As a parent it seems a little over protective maybe but all parents know children must grow up. Also humanity probably made the Primordial One. Hence the Twins as the representatives of the primordial human home world that made the Primordial One, are essentially checking up to see how things are going. This explains why they are at time said to have a mission on Teyvat and other times not. They have a general mission to checkup on human settled worlds ("going from world to world") but nothing is especially interesting about Teyvat at first glance when they arrive. Just another colonized human world like many others they have visited.
ah david we meet again
yes you are correct, but I believe providing a potential reason as to why the Primordial One is overprotective could prove useful in how its perceived and can better help to lend some insight as to why things are the way they are
Wake up bae, new primordial one lore dropped
lets celebrate
What if the primordial one is an aeon and the four shades are emanators
ive been thinking it, but scared to say it
I don't think son ı think phanes is the whose brought the honkai to teyvat how can the elementless phanes can fight with the 7 elements bc phanes used the void the forbidden knowledge(maybe void archive) after the war void corrupted the abyss and light realm and so he needs a new world to create life and he created the ancient tree(imaginary tree prototype)the barrier of teyvat and in the end he reborn and transform to sovereign light there was no void on his body but void still remains in abyss realm,after the war nibelung escape to the abyss and he became the voidal dragon void corrupted his mind and body(holy infant of the abyss reborning in abyss with new body and new powers new constellations)and he became a lord of the abyss,we learned in chasm the master of the abyss has a ring to control the abyssal creatures(der ring'es nibelung) also we saw in genshin manga the ursa the drake can control can rule the hilichurrlls maybe ursa the drake was the soldier of the nibelung's army
phanes didnt bring forbidden knowledge to teyvat- nibelung did.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia nibelung found it the power beyond from the teyvat but we actually don't know who bring to the world maybe nibelung escape to the abyss and he found the remains of the forbidden knowledge leaved by primordial one. primordial one used that power to defeat the dragons but after that he regret what he did and he created the borders bc he wants to protect from affects of the forbidden knowledge we also know that nahida said the forbidden knowledge create the rifts of teyvat and the divine nails fixed the rifts so the forbidden knowledge must be stay outside of the borders in first battle phanes used this power to beat dragons after that he became the sovereign of light and leaved the power bc the power affeting the world he need to leave this power that's my theory and phanes also can rule the abyss chlothar said the one rules the abyss rules the everything
might just like phanes more than the average person
just
I hope Alice is Elysia from Honkai Impact 3rd. She didn't die after all. 😂
Primordial One is Qlippith confirmed
Not Qlippoth who is apathy. But Qlippith who has no path.
I have one question pramodial one can be one of the honkai inmact or honkai Star rail gods😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Honkai impact have no gods, after all "God" us just another life form with something peculiar, thats hi3rd way of thinking
@@abaddon2040 okay what about Aeons
@@eliteAnime_X we still don't know how aeon works, we know pretty much everything about herrschers because we had 9 years of game informations about them, but imo aeons are not to dissimilar, if a supercomputer managed to become an aeon just by thinking it means that there's a way to become aeon
@@abaddon2040 like genshin impact have way became archon but different way😅😅
pramordial one
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baa
If the sky is fake then where is the real sky? And I think I know where it is I think it is above the abyss which is underground but actually they aren’t underground. It’s like the whole world was upside down
r u saying this cause of the caribert quest
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I think I don’t know either because I never played Genshin impact before because I only have android not PC
This video is sponsored by Celestia
OH?
*THE PRIMORDIAL ONE*💥🗣🗣
scream it from the rooftops
any plans to make a discord server? would like to be there even tho i did quit genshin
never used disc sry lol
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa that's sad
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
Dawit, you keep saying the Primordial One came "from beyond the stars". But does it mean the fake stars of Teyvat, or the real stars of the world outside?
And if it's the second option, what does it even mean?
As usual, I think we're missing something important about Kaenri'ah. Clearly, they lived without gods for a long time. They mucked with the world outside of the eggshell for quite a while too, bringing random weird shit from there. The Archons and Celestia clearly had enough time to communicate their concerns to Kaenri'ah. Yet survivors never talk about diplomats from the surface world, messengers from the gods or anything like that. Only about a royal mage arguing with sages about the course they've taken.
And suddenly, gods go to war in full force, with 6 archons out of 7, and the Sustainer too? To me, it sounds more like the gods were there for an emergency rescue or repair operation.
Was it even Kaenri'ah that managed to break things so much? Surely somebody like Rukkadevata would have noticed and warned them in advance, if it was a natural result of the direction their technology took.
the primordial one comes from outside this world, its the first descender
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂can you explain honkai inmact story in short video or what perpose of the honkai inmact
the way you dont even try with ur messages never fails to make me laugh
not to be that guy but I can see what you mean by us HI3 bros coming for you. The Honkai isn't a test. that's an old theory. Honkai is just a cosmic entity/force that is trying to end all of humanity. It happends to attack the worlds that are more technologically advanced. but that is literally irrelevant to the point of the video so who cares am I right? oh and the same thing with the leaves talk. you got it a bit wrong but others allready corrected you so who cares
i care silly, thats why i summoned the honkai players to correct me, and that they did (and u too :D)
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia OMG THANK YOU SO MUTCH
You basically got everything right other than the sea of quanta created the honkai and hsr is one universe not multiple. Good job the honkai impact players won't show up in front your house
WE WON :D
At first I thought this was an meme video until I saw that you are Lore CZcams and that the only jokes you putted on the video were that you may be biased and the sound effect when you talk about the primordial one, so now I assume that you really are talking seriously, at which I REALLY disagree with your take.
1) Celestia probrably has some other uterior reasson, because If Celestia just wanted humanity to be happy, than they would have just killed the people of Khaneriah, or better yet just destroy all the dangerous tech and show them a glimpse of some of the horrors from the outside(not the ones that break your mind, just the ones that are so absurdly powerful and beyond even the gods that Khaenri'ah just has no freaking chance at all), to make them realize how horrible the oitside is and thus make them WANT to stay inside no matter what to avoid dealibg wuth those beings.
However what they did in the canon was unnecessary, counter productive and even something that almost looks like the worst form of sadism in the whole game.
Making them immortal does not help at all bring happiness to humanity, almost nobody aside from the traveler even knows about the curse so it's not like it was even used as an form of showing to others the conseguences of breaking the rules.
It is counter productive becayse instesd of just getting rid of an potential thread to all humanity, they just made them immortal and pissed. On top of probrably wasting a LOT of energy to make an whole nation immortal and even change their forms into that of monsters.
And it even looks like sadism because it made an whole nation suffer an destiny worse than death for no good reasson.
There is also the fact, they did not just punish the ones who were involved in pissing them off, they even cursed INNOCENT PEOPLE who had nothing to do with that, be it somebody who only lived in Khaenri'ah for quality of life, children and etc, all of them got the same punishment despite doing nothing wrong.
And also, Celestia is the one Who made the archon war, they could have made an plain arena for the gods to fight, used the Irmsul to calculate who would win without actually needing to kill anyone and etc. Bit instead what they made was an bloody war that resulted in many deaths include the whole tragedy with the sault god, this whole thing could have been avoided if Celestia wanted to.
2)It is very clear that the primordial one's plan has many holes on it, since forbidden knowledge managed to enter Teyvat and almost corruput even Irmsul itself, the abyss(which is not part of Teyvat) having a huge presence, needing Alice(an human who was probrably not part of the OG plan) having to fix the borders, and the worst one yet is the Narwhal being able to just get into Teyvat with no issue, I say it is the worst because this one didn't even need help from humans in the inside to appear in Teyvat, this thing is literally considered just an pet, the primordial one's plan is so frail that the equivalent of an Pomeranian Lulu can destroy their whole plan.
So at this point, it is really clear that the Primordial one's plan is just an temporary solution at best, and that the horrors of the outside are gonna come at some point. So instead of giving some generations the illusion of safety while dooming future ones, the primordial one should have raised humanity to be the strongest they can be, instead of being mere dust in the universe and having their days counting, they could adapt and deal with all those horrors themselfs, maybe even surpassing the primordial one itself(one of genshin's most prominent themes is that humanity can surpass even the gods if given the right circunstances), because fighting the horrors is inevitable, so they may as well be prepared for it.
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💀, now I am questioning myself wheter this whole thing really is an serious video or not, because Teyvat is far from an Utopia, it has MANY fucked up moments, such as the furnace incident, Dottore's experiments, the actions of the old Knave, the tragedy of the salt god and her people, the Slavery in Mondstadt, the civil war in Inazuma, Varscher's experiments and drug deals, the racial discrimination in Sumeru, people who suffered and died with Eleazar, the very tragic curse of Khaenri'ah that Celestia themselfs made and etc.
Teyvat is REALLY fucked up, I don't know if it is as fucked as the rest of the Honkaiverse because I don't play those games, but it is definitely far from the Utopia you are suggesting at this video.