Carbon vs Aluminium Road Bike Wheels Road Test - Fulcrum Zero vs Yoeleo C60

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • I spend the day testing and comparing a set of deep section carbon wheels and a set of traditional aluminium road bike wheels
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    Yoeleo C60 Pros vs Fulcrum Racing Zeros
    The testing including a flat test around a closed track, and a climbing test on the One in 20 Strava Segment out in Melbourne's Dandenong Ranges.
    Prretty interesting comparison - Results at the end of the video.
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Komentáře • 86

  • @melbournecyclingsegments7510

    I am thinking next time I will compare my high-end carbon road bike with my budget aluminium commuter bike. It might be interesting to see the differences between the complete package. Thoughts?

  • @Chitown388
    @Chitown388 Před 4 lety +27

    All I can focus on is the amazing 270+ watts average.

  • @julianwarmington1267
    @julianwarmington1267 Před 2 lety +3

    Awesome. Good honest advice, and nicely presented. Thanks for your work on this clip.

  • @scj350
    @scj350 Před 4 lety +4

    Great video JP. You can clearly see all the work you put into it. And I also agree that a power meter is the purchase to make if you want to become (and quantify you’re becoming) a stronger cyclist. Keep up the great content!

  • @anielyantra1
    @anielyantra1 Před 3 lety +18

    I love these tests of the new tech. So far, disc brakes, carbon wheels, and tubeless tires are all hyped by manufacturers to buy new tech. The results are that they do not perform better enough to warrant the cost, at least for the non racer.

    • @johnnyboy3357
      @johnnyboy3357 Před 2 lety

      I think it may have been better if he chose to climb with a constant speed then compare the wattage output between the two different sets of wheels, the higher the wattage to maintain a constant speed means the slower the wheel right?

  • @YOELEO
    @YOELEO Před 4 lety +23

    Love your bike with our wheels!
    Thanks for letting us know your opinion on our wheels, we will try to make our wheels with higher performance.
    Cheeers!

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 4 lety +3

      They are a great set of wheels, I am extremely happy with them. Top quality

    • @YOELEO
      @YOELEO Před 4 lety +1

      Wow, so happy to know it! Thanks again!

  • @beesplaining1882
    @beesplaining1882 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent information on both wheel sets. I appeciated you calling out at the beginning that the test would be subjective. It was thought provoking just the same!

  • @sand9577
    @sand9577 Před 2 lety +5

    I completely agree with you, first buy a power meter it will make you a better..."athlete" on a shorter time. I'm getting the wheels next, and I'm definitely going for the fulcrum racing Zeros. Thank you for this breakdown.

  • @sazaria80
    @sazaria80 Před 3 lety +1

    good sharing there mate, quantified effort

  • @sapiens7821
    @sapiens7821 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the great video and insight into carbon versus alu. If they made a wheelset combining the two they would be an awesome wheelset. I like the racing zeros thanks

  • @adamkubiak1933
    @adamkubiak1933 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you!
    I’m for simplicity and availability/affordable replace-ability ;)
    Therefore low profile alloy FTW for me!
    Great test.

  • @Junior6502001
    @Junior6502001 Před 4 lety +9

    Thanks for the honest review. Food for thought as some of us believe the hype that more expensive bikes and accessories will deliver vastly superior performance.

  • @ddavanzo
    @ddavanzo Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks, really helpful review. I’m thinking of new wheels and you helped me decide on the Fulcrum Zero Nite option. Was considering carbon but felt aluminum would give me what I wanted plus was concerned with rim brakes on carbon.

    • @rizwana.5420
      @rizwana.5420 Před 3 lety

      Did u buy Fulcrum Nite? I wanted to buy those but didnt because was afraid that the black coating would damaged. Hows your experience?

  • @wazirtan6801
    @wazirtan6801 Před 3 lety

    overall weights is the matter Great Video !Thanks👍👍

  • @mikeclements4548
    @mikeclements4548 Před 3 lety

    Good Honest review thanks 👍

  • @uptown710
    @uptown710 Před rokem +1

    I put on my first carbon wheels this week and did a test ride of 40mi in NYC traffic.
    It did make a difference from my stock wheels imo. I pretty much got from South Brooklyn to the Bronx zoo and back with very little fatigue. I don’t know if I was faster (3 hours round trip), but it sure as hell was easier than when I’ve had my stock wheels on.

  • @rezatoghraee6358
    @rezatoghraee6358 Před 2 lety +5

    This is the video I was looking for. Thanks for that. I'm using the Alloy DT Swiss R470 and being very tempted to upgrade to a carbon wheel to get faster. However it seems the speed benefits of carbon wheels are not much as compared to price point.

  • @12B0692
    @12B0692 Před rokem

    Really interesting. I have noticed a clear improvement in average speed over my 100mi rides after switching to carbon (Reynolds AR58) from the stock aluminum shimano wheels. Difference of just over 1mph faster. Riding a Felt VR40 aluminum frame bike w/Tiagra Disc 2x10.

  • @FRamirez1A
    @FRamirez1A Před 4 lety +3

    Anyone here has any experience with Light Bicycle wheels? Thanks!

  • @robertryan1663
    @robertryan1663 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm really late seeing this, but better late than never. I recently had the opportunity to demo a new bike with all the latest and greatest. In all honesty it didn't feel any faster than my aluminum Trek Domane with aluminum wheels and rim brakes. On club rides we average 17 to 19 mph. At these modest speeds I don't think all this aerodynamic technology makes much difference.

  • @ambat_
    @ambat_ Před 4 lety +1

    Great vid, the one thing I’d like to point out though is that on the velodrome test, your power varied more from what we saw with the carbon wheels.

  • @Aaron-bc6kq
    @Aaron-bc6kq Před 4 lety

    Will the difference in performance be much lesser. If the zeros you have, were the competizione (with cult bearings)?

  • @mbastos1000
    @mbastos1000 Před 3 lety +2

    Very good! Thank you! You have the decency to compare an excellent aluminum wheelset with a good carbon wheelset! This is quite fair! I watched a video before yours by a famous American Criterium racer comparing a set of Shimano rs100 (crap) with a Bontrager 60mm carbon wheelset!!!!!!! Totally BS!

  • @sinisalukic8666
    @sinisalukic8666 Před 4 lety +2

    You need to have the same cadence and power for the real test. But nice video!

  • @GojuRyuPoland
    @GojuRyuPoland Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, but I think when you compare two types of wheels, to make the comparison more fair, you should test the wheels on the same tires. Besides, nice work!

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 3 lety

      Good point, I should've mentioned they were fairly similar tyres. Veloflex Masters for the carbon wheels and Veloflex Corsas for the aluminium wheels

  • @TheMASDrummer
    @TheMASDrummer Před 6 měsíci

    did you use the same tyres?

  • @elliotresnick5433
    @elliotresnick5433 Před 4 lety

    Great video! Where can I find those Fulcrum wheels in the U.S. for the price point you mentioned (i.e., $900)? Cheers

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 4 lety

      That was AUD, which based on the current exchange rate is probably about 700 usd. I'm sure you can find them in US at a good price

    • @elliotresnick5433
      @elliotresnick5433 Před 4 lety

      Melbourne Cycling Segments If you have any ideas or sources for those wheels, I’m ready to order them for US$700!! Also how would those Fulcrums compare to DT Swiss PR1600 in either 21 or 32 in?

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 4 lety

      @@elliotresnick5433 funny when I bought the fulcrums I nearly bought those dt Swiss as I believe they were a bit wider but they were out of stock everywhere. I bought my fulcrums from Bikebug.com

    • @elliotresnick5433
      @elliotresnick5433 Před 4 lety

      Melbourne Cycling Segments I have a Carbon 2014 Synapse with Ultegra. Although the basic Mavic rim wheelset it came with is ok, I’m anxious for a nice upgrade this year! Do you think I’m on the right track?

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 4 lety

      @@elliotresnick5433 absolutely. Both great aluminium wheelsets. You could also go down the hand built path if you have a good local builder

  • @evelinebroekhoff1135
    @evelinebroekhoff1135 Před rokem

    Does it have any sort of warrantee?

  • @robertandrews3055
    @robertandrews3055 Před 3 lety +3

    All I can say is I have studied the "carbon vs aluminum wheels" issue quite a bit and this is literally the first video I have found that didn't favor the carbon aero wheels.

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 3 lety +2

      Perhaps my test was not that scientific, but it still shows that there is not much difference really

    • @Nick-dz4ml
      @Nick-dz4ml Před 3 lety

      Probably has a lot to do with marketing and current trends aswell

    • @binauppal876
      @binauppal876 Před 3 lety

      I have to agree,,great real world test,,i have a pair of mavic krsyiums,,for a non racer these are perfect,,but boy do the carbons look awesome,,you got it spot on mate,they only look better,,its better to change position on the bike instead and cheaper

  • @richardcarr6493
    @richardcarr6493 Před rokem +1

    l have ROLF 38mm deep wheels on my TREK and l weighed them at 1540g so l don t see a real advantage replacing them with equal weight carbons besides l know they brake better :) THANKS FOR THE HONEST COMPARISON

  • @melbman43
    @melbman43 Před 3 lety +17

    Wow, the morale of the story, Carbon wheels only look good and you don't need them.

  • @stevevater8598
    @stevevater8598 Před 4 lety

    I got a pricncipia bike ,and a new cannondale eco 6. On riding them I swore evo6 faster so I did controlled test. Downhill roll from measured distance and timed. The pricncipia was 5 secs faster!!! A big difference at 30mph .but evo6 FELT faster

  • @cristianpauldanet3724
    @cristianpauldanet3724 Před 2 měsíci

    My Fulcrum Zero Carbon wheelset (1330 g) weighs less than 1900 g including Continental Grand Prix TT (190 g) and Supersonic Conti tubes (50g) and is one of the best wheelsets I tested (I tested several high end wheelsets). Your Fulcrum Zero aluminium is also excellent but heavier. Good quality from Campagnolo. No need to buy wheels from China.

  • @ash7774
    @ash7774 Před 3 lety

    Were similar tyres used on both wheels while testing?

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 3 lety

      Yes. Veloflex on both

    • @ash7774
      @ash7774 Před 2 lety +1

      @@melbournecyclingsegments7510 even my experience is same as yours...not much difference between 50mm carbon vs shallow alloy rims...I find my Shimano ultegra wheels more than capable in all riding conditions. Thanks for making the video mate 👍

  • @barlowmccarthy1295
    @barlowmccarthy1295 Před 3 lety

    Almost didn’t recognise hawthorn valedrome in the sun

  • @apv1
    @apv1 Před 4 lety

    Could you use the same tyres for your next test?

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 4 lety

      I actually did use the same tyres. The carbon wheels had Veloflex Masters and the aluminium wheels had Velofex Corsas. Which are the same

    • @MrWesman43
      @MrWesman43 Před 4 lety +4

      @@melbournecyclingsegments7510 Did you use the same tyre size ? same tubes and pressures? Not sure how you managed to get the heavier, aero wheels to be slower on the flat and yet faster on the climb ?

    • @hanifschanel
      @hanifschanel Před 4 lety

      @@MrWesman43 well if you see in the beginning of the video, the carbon wheels is 400gr lighter and when climbing he use 10 more watts on the carbon wheel than the aluminium wheels.
      thats why

    • @LordVilmore
      @LordVilmore Před 4 lety +2

      @@hanifschanel check the video again, it are the alu wheels that are 400gr lighter. So thats why I also think there must be some other variables because the results are very counter intuitive, the lighter alu wheels are faster on the flat yet slower on the hill. *flabbergasted emoticon*

    • @mamneo2
      @mamneo2 Před 3 lety

      @@MrWesman43 Hey I did not notice that! :o

  • @markschmalenberger8301
    @markschmalenberger8301 Před 3 lety +3

    In the real world, the lighter wheel will always come out ahead. Aero doesn't help on a climb. No matter what the material the rim weight counts.

  • @mrexon
    @mrexon Před 4 lety +1

    Which is safer

  • @dsmhiggins67
    @dsmhiggins67 Před 4 lety +5

    You need to test the wheels going down an alpine descent in 30 deg c heat. I know I’d pick the aluminium every time because I value my teeth

    • @stevevater8598
      @stevevater8598 Před 4 lety

      Yes!!

    • @josequilez5449
      @josequilez5449 Před 3 lety +1

      I live in sf. Carbon has never given me a problem. The only people who have ever poped a wheel was due to improper breaking technique . Stop holding them so often and you won't get heat build up. Because if you can make carbon explode your aluminum is going to suffer the same fate shortly further down the mountain 🤘

  • @abstrait1
    @abstrait1 Před 4 lety +1

    One thing of note... You were on the SMALL chainring and cross chaining it. Super inefficient and also nearly impossible to get your best speed out there. Wears the chain out faster as well. Do you normally ride on the small ring on the flats? Could get a more direct chainline with it on big and middle of cassette. Don't know how you didn't spin out even still. The faster you go, the more advantage with the deep dish. Also, when i have Latex tubes and Vittoria Open Corsa or those Veloflex you were riding on my HED Belgium C2, there is a noticeable difference. I've had this combination feel better up to 23mph compared to my ENVE SES 6.7 with Conti tubes. After the speed, the ENVE really start making a difference.

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 4 lety +9

      Ok I'll tell you a little CZcams secret. When I'm filming myself riding and taking those shots of my pedals and stuff, that is filmed seperately. When I'm doing the actual tests it's both hands on the bars and staring at my Garmin for maximum accuracy.

    • @JanKowalski-pe9lo
      @JanKowalski-pe9lo Před 4 lety

      "The faster you go, the more advantage with the deep dish."
      - Point...? Yeah nextt time JP will test deep dish wheels on bike with engine to test them at 70kph to prove your point instead checking them in the region of speeds of mere mortals. Now go to bed boy and don't embarrass yourself.

  • @MrChippinator
    @MrChippinator Před rokem +1

    The cycling industry is gonna hate you for this...

  • @JohnDough-yr2zt
    @JohnDough-yr2zt Před rokem

    If I didn’t see the video, I wouldn’t know wth a “boik” is.

  • @olinjohnson4152
    @olinjohnson4152 Před 3 lety

    thumbs down b/c you didn't use the same tires. gotta use the same tires to compare rims

    • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
      @melbournecyclingsegments7510  Před 3 lety +1

      Actually were the same tyres, veloflex. Masters and Corsas which aside from the tan walls are the same tyres. That bit of video ended up on the editing floor

  • @christerohlsson9034
    @christerohlsson9034 Před 4 lety +1

    That only says don’t ever buy Yoeleo

    • @nachelia
      @nachelia Před 3 lety +2

      Carbon is carbon though, we're testing it as a material variable, not the structural integrity

  • @cliffordbw
    @cliffordbw Před 3 lety +1

    That’s why all pros ride aluminum 😂 this is silly

  • @blackprincegt
    @blackprincegt Před 4 lety

    This man has a bald head. Only I can see this though so need to inform you all

  • @razahassan811
    @razahassan811 Před rokem

    Its a little smelly even with deoderant.

  • @stingray6737
    @stingray6737 Před 3 lety

    I dare not ride on China made carbon wheels

    • @andreytsoy44
      @andreytsoy44 Před 10 dny

      Wait until you realize almost all carbon wheels are made in china.