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For the size class change argument, No retool has ever changed the size class a figure goes into. All of the examples people give have a massive amount of accessories added on to do that. Springer by himself is still a voyager. Retools are a way to cost save because they cost significantly less to produce than making a new mold. So no he didn’t become a leader due to anything related to remolding.
My main issue with a retool argument some people might make to justify cost is that Wreck-Gar had two complete retools and they didn't increase size class at all, so Hasbro's essentially saying the weapons give us Leader value.
The entire reason Hasbro does retools is because it SAVES costs. Being a retool should NEVER be a reason for a figure to be MORE expensive. The fandom is being incredibly weird lately.
The arguement is that the retooling make him: more complex, taller, and more articulated. This isn't like SS32 to SS44 where the only change was aesthetically, it became an actively more expensive figure to produce. Now does that still justify the price? Eh not really for me but it's not nearly as bad of an argument as you're presenting it.
The extra accessories are kinda cool but this guy just feel like 86 Starscream to me even though they're very different. It's almost just the WFC figure but with more accessories just like Starscream. At least this guy is retooled a lot, that's way better then Screamer. I'm probably not gonna get it unless it gets discounted eventually.
I’ll say this at least they actually tried to change this up. Starscreams only change was opening hands. Hell Soundwave isn’t going to be changed besides the paint job.
Same. I'm a newer collector (really properly started collecting WFCT/SS/Legacy stuff in 2020-2021 (iirc of course)), and have zero Springers. And, this guy's perfect. So, easy pick up!
This and the siege mold never really spoke to me. The thrilling 30 one I have is still super solid, and that mold (especially the Sandstorm retool) is one of my favorite toys of all time, so I'll keep that one lmao
The Thrilling 30 version is epic. I'd love to see an improved version of it with slightly better articulation (it's already pretty good), and better tabbing/tolerances in the alt modes.
@@KodyCrimson yes but BIG SWORD. And, while Hasbro is milking incredibly hard rn, this is an improvement in more ways than 98% of leaders that were recolored, repacked, or upgraded have been.
@@basedtruther1020 I agree that Hasbro should have went all out. And I agree that the accessories could have been more height. But it’s still cool to see them make so many changes, much less any at all.
@@KodyCrimsonNot a fair comparison considering those 2 retools don't add anything significant really nor change the overall plastic quality and improves the toy, it is more worth it than the leader Soundwave they want to release i will say that
For me, I have the original Siege version, and yet, the changes really make me want it anyway. The knees being fixed, and chest being more cohesive makes it kinda worth it for me. (need to find him though).
i was debating getting ss86 springer, but i think you've convinced me to get him. my inner gee-wunner loves him so much more than the siege one and i felt a wave of relief when i learned siege springer having bad knees was a common thing and wasn't just on mine lmao
Well I'm sold. It was really just seeing him side-by-side with the Siege mold. I would have liked _more_ differences, like maybe hiding the back wheels in copter mode, but this is enough. Always a favorite character of mine, so it's worth it to have him be this purty.
As a Collector going on many years my only Springer on hand is the Thrilling 30s release. Surprisingly good update for that era, but the 86 Springer is a no brainer as it fixes many problems of the original, looks better overall, and has a fantastic cache of accessories. That hammer though could have used some silver paint or at the very least been molded in grey and not the same color as his hands. Looks totally worth the preorder.
I definitely feel like this didn't need to be a retool. Like, it just makes it feel a bit more scammy than I'm comfortable with. Siege Springer, as much as I love him, is not as cartoon accurate as you'd think at a first glance, and this figure doesn't change enough to be close enough to the show model for it to be really worth $20 usd more imo. I feel like a new mold that shared engineering with Siege would have worked way better than just a simple retool.
I say this as someone who owns Wreck N Rule and T30 Springer: SS86 Springer is very cool, and I wish I had him. That being said, Since I already have two Springers. I don't feel a need to get the 86 one, even though I would love to have that extra engineering and accessories in hand. Wreck N Rule remains cool to me because he has the Wreckers emblem, and T30 remains cool to me because he is a nostalgic and great figure.
Tear a little piece of paper, I used a piece from that random white slip all these figures come with, and slot that inside the knee and that'll work as a fix for the knee issue on the siege/wreckers version.
I consider it a lesson learned. I should have waited for the studio series. Pass for me. So many things on that they SHOULD start off with instead we got it 3 figs Late.
I'm getting him, but he still does not beat the generation's 30th anniversary sprinter. That is the true wrecker, Springer. This one should never have come with the hammer.
Love it, voyager Hot Rod at deluxe size was worth it, this is the same in my book, but granted im going for a screen accurate collection. If you dont mind the subtle differences you wont care, but I had the extra cash to butn
I also got the previous version and I am totally sold that hey fixed everything about the older version... when I see him on sale. I don't mind spending more on things I really want, like the diobots, commander classes, exclusive redeco packs of molds I don't own already etc. But I can wait on that guy, for now. And I got to save up for Superion, Devastator and the 13 primes next year.
Man, with everything he comes with as well as the mold changes, I'm definitely gonna try and get it- with how many people aren't buying it, I BET I'll get it on clearance-
I know that they are different scales, so they aren't really an apples to apples comparison. But it kinda blows me away that this guy is basically the same price as Robot Hero Airwolf (3rd party MP Springer). I'd be tempted to get this guy if I didn't already have the siege version. Might still pick him up if I see him on sale.
The triple changers need a scale between voyager and leader. This, Blitzwing and Sandstorm would be great $40-$45 toys, but at leader price plus being a retool I can' personally justify it, even if though its clearly the best version of G1 Springer.
This guy looks amazing! I need him! I don't have a Springer yet, and this guy's perfect! So, easy pick up! Great bot- and alt-modes, and great accessories, and great detailing, and not-terrible price! What more can I ask for!?
Another case of a better figure coming out after I've gone to the trouble of upgrading and customizing the previous figure and therefore reducing my need of the new figure.
So basically.......the Springer we should have gotten first time around but it was far better for bottom lines to serve up two inferior versions (which most of us have) before going to the well again. I'm not usually on the HaSBlo SuCkZ train but this one is frigging ergregious.
I bought the Siege Springer just shy from a day or two from when they revealed this one. I think I'll stick with that instead, 86 has a lot of new parts sure but at the end of the day, it's still just a reshaped and redone Siege Springer that is more expensive.
While it DOES fix the tolerances that were my only issue with the Siege mould, I much prefer the Wreckers deco, not to mention I find the new accessories completely superfluous, had they kept the original accessories (or maybe swapped entirely instead of redundancy) AND KEPT THE VOYAGER PRICE I would've gone for it, but as is, unless I find it for dirt cheap I'm not gonna bother with this one, the price is insulting, look at all the huge amounts of retooling other moulds get and they don't see a price increase.
It looks like a great figure overall, but it doesn’t justify the leader price since it’s nearly identical other than in color to the already existing voyager
The added features might just justify the purchase for me. I love Siege springer, but the propeller kinda bugged me and the chest annoyed me a lot. Not to mention a tab on one of the legs chipped off and while it's still functional, it's even more fiddly to transform and it irks me
What’s the white hands and the white accessories like the hammer. It looks like they’re glow-in-the-dark, are they ? That would be cool if they are. I did pre-order Springer, been wanting to get a Springer for a long while, timing worked out perfect, for the release and me finally being able to get a version of him.
As long as the pin in the foot is nice and tight I’ll be happy. Siege springer was heartbreaking in his lameness. I just want a decent springer for my 86 sheld
I really do like Siege Springer. The only thing that bugs me is the battle damage. If there was no battle damage on Siege Springer, I would not even look at the 86 one. Oh well, I will still hold onto Siege. Afterall, Apeface, Astrotrain, ER Megatron all have battle scuffings too, so guess its OK.
i just wish they increased the size of the figure, like if you upscaled Kingdom Airrazor for ROTB SS Airrazor, ya could have done the same with Springer
i am really glad i waited for SS86 springer. i was happy when the siege one came out but i was never a fan of the battle damage paint or the wreckers coloration. when SS86 became a thing i figured that eventually we'd get a springer. waiting for a SS Rodimus prime. dont get me wrong the kindom one is great, i am just holding out to see how the SS one is. also glad i waited for the SS Springer and didnt get a 3rd party one
when they revealed this figure I went out and bought the fans project Springer out of spite 😭 honestly that figure is sick but I need to fix like every joint
I sold my Wrecker one once I saw this SS86... i hated the flash colors of the Wrecker one but got it cause i couldnt find the Siege one and now, ill be happy in a few weeks
Personally I didn't have problems with the knees on my copy of the siege version nor with the arms coming off. But with the arms I also never pushed them: I first lined them up then closed the chest on them and was always very solid (the one time I tried to peg the arms after closing the chest I couldn't do it).
I sold my Siege Springer and I certainly like it more than the original. But I like Springer, if u really don’t care and just want a slot filled in than holding onto the old one isn’t the worst. But the 86 is a higher quality version, undoubtedly.
I hope this guy shelf warms so it'll be easier to find him for a good deal. I like him, but I'm not entirely willing to soend $55 on this guy. Especially since i already have Wrecker Springer
Something about this one just isn’t hitting the same as siege for me. Maybe its the colors, maybe its the sculpting, maybe its the fact its $50, i dunno but im perfectly happy keeping the siege one
I’ve owned Wrecker Springer since I’ve first saw him at a GameStop and he’s saved me from souring my mood on the Wreckers line after my preorder for Bulkhead got cancelled. Mine still manages to hold up to this day so I do appreciate your opinion on this man but for now I’ll stick with my main boy.
This makes me really wish I hadn’t bought Siege Springer, especially because mine has some sort of QC flaw that prevents it from correctly transforming into helicopter mode so it may be difficult to sell on the aftermarket.
I dunno what, but i think i have a perfect copy of legacy springer cause mine's leg transformation joints stay in place and i don't have any issues with him
I have Thrilling 30 Springer and Wreck n Rule Springer. SS86 Springer will look great with them. The only people that would complain are those that only like to have one version of a character
Looks good but not a day 1 purchase. Literally just bought the t30 because I really loved the wreckers saga. If the new comics continue to be good I may look to get this one eventually
Usually i prefer a smaller leader with mlre accessories as im nkt that big of a fan of huge figures, so SS Primal and SS DOTM Optimus were so far my favourite leaders. And i think i'd have the same opinion on springer if it wasn't for the fact i have the wreck n' rule one. I still think he's worth it for all the stuff he comes with, but personally i just don't like the toon accurate tooling fompared to the siege mould
I'm fighting demons on this figure cause I forced myself to stop getting repaints/retools, but my Wreckers Springer was so disappointingly terrible in its structural integrity that I would raise an eyebrow whenever anybody would bring up Siege Springer as an amazing gem of a figure. In the end I'll probably see if it goes on sale anywhere online, because I REALLY want to like this mold and Wreckers didn't give me many reasons to.
I still think the propeller sword looks asymmetrical in copter mode and it appears that the hole on his back for copter mode isn't a straight 5mm peg hole, meaning I can't just sub in a Thrilling 30 sword. I still don't like the green rims in front and grey in the back. I also don't like that the legs aren't retooled as much as they could have been. Some detent ratcheting on the ankle joints would have been nice. That aside, I'm really wanting to get this guy because the colors are great over all, the added intakes on the car and copter mode are great and I like what they retooled for the most part.
“They fixed the knees” goddamnit that’s all I needed to hear, he’s worth it
But not the feet
For the size class change argument, No retool has ever changed the size class a figure goes into. All of the examples people give have a massive amount of accessories added on to do that.
Springer by himself is still a voyager. Retools are a way to cost save because they cost significantly less to produce than making a new mold. So no he didn’t become a leader due to anything related to remolding.
My main issue with a retool argument some people might make to justify cost is that Wreck-Gar had two complete retools and they didn't increase size class at all, so Hasbro's essentially saying the weapons give us Leader value.
The entire reason Hasbro does retools is because it SAVES costs. Being a retool should NEVER be a reason for a figure to be MORE expensive. The fandom is being incredibly weird lately.
those retools didnt add parts count or engineering costs, not really a fair comparison
@@JohnDoe-wl5xm Scrapheap added parts
The arguement is that the retooling make him: more complex, taller, and more articulated. This isn't like SS32 to SS44 where the only change was aesthetically, it became an actively more expensive figure to produce.
Now does that still justify the price? Eh not really for me but it's not nearly as bad of an argument as you're presenting it.
@@CrimsonAzure-fh6yb it isn't any more complex of a figure than wreck gar
"They fixed the knees" Well I'm sold
The extra accessories are kinda cool but this guy just feel like 86 Starscream to me even though they're very different. It's almost just the WFC figure but with more accessories just like Starscream. At least this guy is retooled a lot, that's way better then Screamer. I'm probably not gonna get it unless it gets discounted eventually.
I’ll say this at least they actually tried to change this up. Starscreams only change was opening hands. Hell Soundwave isn’t going to be changed besides the paint job.
I had buyers remorse immediately after getting him but I’ve learned to appreciate him as a figure.
Still not exactly worth the leader price imo
You can get Robot Hero Airwolf (3P MP Springer) for the same money. So yeah, this guy does feel expensive.
As a new collector with 0 past versions of Springer this one is a must get for me
Same!!!
Same. I'm a newer collector (really properly started collecting WFCT/SS/Legacy stuff in 2020-2021 (iirc of course)), and have zero Springers. And, this guy's perfect. So, easy pick up!
Yeah this figure is basically a reissue
It's why I'm interested in picking one up, especially since it seems like a lot of qc issues got fixed
I have wrecker springer and I just got 86, needless to say I'm giving Legacy Springer the hammer and selling him on eBay.
It's the Irish Springer soap hammer!
Haha that's actually funny 😂
You're not full clean
Actually if you push the head back you can get up and down. And side to side. But I also love that the knees are fixed on this version
This and the siege mold never really spoke to me. The thrilling 30 one I have is still super solid, and that mold (especially the Sandstorm retool) is one of my favorite toys of all time, so I'll keep that one lmao
The Thrilling 30 version is epic.
I'd love to see an improved version of it with slightly better articulation (it's already pretty good), and better tabbing/tolerances in the alt modes.
Thrilling 30 Springer is still superior in my eyes.
T30 Springer is the GOAT!
You darn right it is
Stupid to not think it’s worth it if you don’t have a springer. That’s so much improvement for the same as the wrecker pack
It's not worth Leader Price after Wreck Gar's two complete retools not increasing price
@@KodyCrimson yes but BIG SWORD. And, while Hasbro is milking incredibly hard rn, this is an improvement in more ways than 98% of leaders that were recolored, repacked, or upgraded have been.
Still not worth an extra 30 dollars for a few more pieces of plastic, slightly different paint job and articulation. Save your money
@@basedtruther1020 I agree that Hasbro should have went all out. And I agree that the accessories could have been more height. But it’s still cool to see them make so many changes, much less any at all.
@@KodyCrimsonNot a fair comparison considering those 2 retools don't add anything significant really nor change the overall plastic quality and improves the toy, it is more worth it than the leader Soundwave they want to release i will say that
For me, I have the original Siege version, and yet, the changes really make me want it anyway. The knees being fixed, and chest being more cohesive makes it kinda worth it for me. (need to find him though).
9:55 yeah, that's an issue in my siege copy too. What I do is push those wing things in slightly so they sit snug against the vehicle.
i was debating getting ss86 springer, but i think you've convinced me to get him. my inner gee-wunner loves him so much more than the siege one
and i felt a wave of relief when i learned siege springer having bad knees was a common thing and wasn't just on mine lmao
"Why would I buy Springer again?? It's the same damn toy! Besides, were would I put him? On my _Seeker shelf??"_
Well I'm sold. It was really just seeing him side-by-side with the Siege mold. I would have liked _more_ differences, like maybe hiding the back wheels in copter mode, but this is enough. Always a favorite character of mine, so it's worth it to have him be this purty.
Those freaking wings in chopper mode are loose on both sides for me and drives me nuts. They definitely fixed the knees though for robot mode.
Just got him, didn’t have the other. LOVE the color scheme. 🔥
Green boi (no other reason to get him needed)
As a Collector going on many years my only Springer on hand is the Thrilling 30s release. Surprisingly good update for that era, but the 86 Springer is a no brainer as it fixes many problems of the original, looks better overall, and has a fantastic cache of accessories. That hammer though could have used some silver paint or at the very least been molded in grey and not the same color as his hands. Looks totally worth the preorder.
0:10 Sir that rhinox
That's the point
He's green and yellow, close enough.
@@LonelySpaceDetectiveoh, so all green and yellow cybertronians look the same to you?
I definitely feel like this didn't need to be a retool. Like, it just makes it feel a bit more scammy than I'm comfortable with. Siege Springer, as much as I love him, is not as cartoon accurate as you'd think at a first glance, and this figure doesn't change enough to be close enough to the show model for it to be really worth $20 usd more imo.
I feel like a new mold that shared engineering with Siege would have worked way better than just a simple retool.
I say this as someone who owns Wreck N Rule and T30 Springer: SS86 Springer is very cool, and I wish I had him. That being said, Since I already have two Springers. I don't feel a need to get the 86 one, even though I would love to have that extra engineering and accessories in hand. Wreck N Rule remains cool to me because he has the Wreckers emblem, and T30 remains cool to me because he is a nostalgic and great figure.
Tear a little piece of paper, I used a piece from that random white slip all these figures come with, and slot that inside the knee and that'll work as a fix for the knee issue on the siege/wreckers version.
As someone who skipped all of them, im definitely picking the 86 one up😊
me too can’t wait for mine to arrive
I consider it a lesson learned. I should have waited for the studio series. Pass for me. So many things on that they SHOULD start off with instead we got it 3 figs Late.
I'm getting him, but he still does not beat the generation's 30th anniversary sprinter. That is the true wrecker, Springer. This one should never have come with the hammer.
Love it, voyager Hot Rod at deluxe size was worth it, this is the same in my book, but granted im going for a screen accurate collection. If you dont mind the subtle differences you wont care, but I had the extra cash to butn
kinda wish he came with some blast effects instead of the hammer and the artillery shell.
3:14 THANK YOU. This is the only thing I needed* to know 🎉 *it’s already on preorder and I wouldn’t cancel it but you know…
I also got the previous version and I am totally sold that hey fixed everything about the older version... when I see him on sale. I don't mind spending more on things I really want, like the diobots, commander classes, exclusive redeco packs of molds I don't own already etc. But I can wait on that guy, for now. And I got to save up for Superion, Devastator and the 13 primes next year.
As someone who doesn't have any stringers at all this totally seems worth it
Got him at target with 20% coupon. I didnt have him plus i am collecting the 86 line... he was a no brainer for me
Man, with everything he comes with as well as the mold changes, I'm definitely gonna try and get it- with how many people aren't buying it, I BET I'll get it on clearance-
I know that they are different scales, so they aren't really an apples to apples comparison. But it kinda blows me away that this guy is basically the same price as Robot Hero Airwolf (3rd party MP Springer).
I'd be tempted to get this guy if I didn't already have the siege version.
Might still pick him up if I see him on sale.
The triple changers need a scale between voyager and leader. This, Blitzwing and Sandstorm would be great $40-$45 toys, but at leader price plus being a retool I can' personally justify it, even if though its clearly the best version of G1 Springer.
Can't wait to see more! 🌟🍄
This guy looks amazing! I need him! I don't have a Springer yet, and this guy's perfect! So, easy pick up! Great bot- and alt-modes, and great accessories, and great detailing, and not-terrible price! What more can I ask for!?
Another case of a better figure coming out after I've gone to the trouble of upgrading and customizing the previous figure and therefore reducing my need of the new figure.
If you take a shot every time he says new you’re gonna think it’s actually raining springers
Probably gonna get him, since i lost most of the weapons for my Siege Springer. Plus, i love Springer, and this guy looks great!
So basically.......the Springer we should have gotten first time around but it was far better for bottom lines to serve up two inferior versions (which most of us have) before going to the well again. I'm not usually on the HaSBlo SuCkZ train but this one is frigging ergregious.
I bought the Siege Springer just shy from a day or two from when they revealed this one. I think I'll stick with that instead, 86 has a lot of new parts sure but at the end of the day, it's still just a reshaped and redone Siege Springer that is more expensive.
While it DOES fix the tolerances that were my only issue with the Siege mould, I much prefer the Wreckers deco, not to mention I find the new accessories completely superfluous, had they kept the original accessories (or maybe swapped entirely instead of redundancy) AND KEPT THE VOYAGER PRICE I would've gone for it, but as is, unless I find it for dirt cheap I'm not gonna bother with this one, the price is insulting, look at all the huge amounts of retooling other moulds get and they don't see a price increase.
It looks like a great figure overall, but it doesn’t justify the leader price since it’s nearly identical other than in color to the already existing voyager
The added features might just justify the purchase for me. I love Siege springer, but the propeller kinda bugged me and the chest annoyed me a lot. Not to mention a tab on one of the legs chipped off and while it's still functional, it's even more fiddly to transform and it irks me
What’s the white hands and the white accessories like the hammer. It looks like they’re glow-in-the-dark, are they ? That would be cool if they are. I did pre-order Springer, been wanting to get a Springer for a long while, timing worked out perfect, for the release and me finally being able to get a version of him.
The falling Rhinox made me laugh 😂
As long as the pin in the foot is nice and tight I’ll be happy. Siege springer was heartbreaking in his lameness. I just want a decent springer for my 86 sheld
"That's it, I only have 2" wtf happened to the T30 one you selled it? I can't believe that
I don’t have any springers so I might get him because I’ve never experienced one and it’s quote unquote: *”NEW”*
I really do like Siege Springer. The only thing that bugs me is the battle damage. If there was no battle damage on Siege Springer, I would not even look at the 86 one. Oh well, I will still hold onto Siege. Afterall, Apeface, Astrotrain, ER Megatron all have battle scuffings too, so guess its OK.
I’ll be getting it because I don’t have any modern version of Springer and I need him to complete my 86 autobots
Thrilling 30s Springer is the best
i just wish they increased the size of the figure, like if you upscaled Kingdom Airrazor for ROTB SS Airrazor, ya could have done the same with Springer
I absolutely love this figure!! It’s really starting to make G1 designed grown on me.
i am really glad i waited for SS86 springer. i was happy when the siege one came out but i was never a fan of the battle damage paint or the wreckers coloration. when SS86 became a thing i figured that eventually we'd get a springer. waiting for a SS Rodimus prime. dont get me wrong the kindom one is great, i am just holding out to see how the SS one is. also glad i waited for the SS Springer and didnt get a 3rd party one
when they revealed this figure I went out and bought the fans project Springer out of spite 😭 honestly that figure is sick but I need to fix like every joint
I sold my Wrecker one once I saw this SS86... i hated the flash colors of the Wrecker one but got it cause i couldnt find the Siege one and now, ill be happy in a few weeks
A good review better than prime Vs prime since he never shows the box as you always do since your reviews always makes me buy the figure afterwards ❤
Take the arm issue multiply it by 2 on my copy and the hands don’t tab into the top flaps.
Wow, new product good, who saw that coming? Maybe on a sale, the upcharge from the higher size class is too much.
Personally I didn't have problems with the knees on my copy of the siege version nor with the arms coming off. But with the arms I also never pushed them: I first lined them up then closed the chest on them and was always very solid (the one time I tried to peg the arms after closing the chest I couldn't do it).
Cool thing about the helicopter sword is that it could be flipped around and become a Kopaka type sword
If I see him at Ross I guess
I sold my Siege Springer and I certainly like it more than the original. But I like Springer, if u really don’t care and just want a slot filled in than holding onto the old one isn’t the worst. But the 86 is a higher quality version, undoubtedly.
I hope this guy shelf warms so it'll be easier to find him for a good deal. I like him, but I'm not entirely willing to soend $55 on this guy. Especially since i already have Wrecker Springer
Good figure. Good improvements.
But I'm okay with my siege Springer.
But ss86 optimus prime is a must buy. No matter the cost
Given that I have no version of Springer, I'll definitely pick up the 86 version just to have him in my collection 😅
I got one almost entirely for the proper helicopter blades/sword. The Siege one was so good except for the crappy way it handled that.
It's kinda crazy that SS86 has literally zero Leader molds that aren't Dinobots or retools of older WFC trilogy figures.
*Still trying to get IDW Springer for a decent price*
Something about this one just isn’t hitting the same as siege for me. Maybe its the colors, maybe its the sculpting, maybe its the fact its $50, i dunno but im perfectly happy keeping the siege one
This is gonna go great with my 86 dudes
I was sold when I saw the knees fixed
I’ve owned Wrecker Springer since I’ve first saw him at a GameStop and he’s saved me from souring my mood on the Wreckers line after my preorder for Bulkhead got cancelled. Mine still manages to hold up to this day so I do appreciate your opinion on this man but for now I’ll stick with my main boy.
What annoys me about the rotors is they're both facing the same way when they should be opposing eachother.
This makes me really wish I hadn’t bought Siege Springer, especially because mine has some sort of QC flaw that prevents it from correctly transforming into helicopter mode so it may be difficult to sell on the aftermarket.
major upgrade across the board, totally worth it
I dunno what, but i think i have a perfect copy of legacy springer cause mine's leg transformation joints stay in place and i don't have any issues with him
just bought it today
I surely dont regret it
I’m happy with Thrilling 30 Springer
They needed to bulk up the legs. They look really undersized with the bulkier chest
you're not supposed to pull the knees apart. twist them in opposite directions.
Yeah, if you Don’t have springer already then get it.
Not me though, feel ripped off.
I have Thrilling 30 Springer and Wreck n Rule Springer. SS86 Springer will look great with them. The only people that would complain are those that only like to have one version of a character
Could it be summarized as: If you have Siege mold and are happy with it, is not worth it, if you don’t, then it is.
Looks great; now to wait for a buzzworthy one that gets rid of the clear plastic.
Looks good but not a day 1 purchase.
Literally just bought the t30 because I really loved the wreckers saga.
If the new comics continue to be good I may look to get this one eventually
Usually i prefer a smaller leader with mlre accessories as im nkt that big of a fan of huge figures, so SS Primal and SS DOTM Optimus were so far my favourite leaders. And i think i'd have the same opinion on springer if it wasn't for the fact i have the wreck n' rule one. I still think he's worth it for all the stuff he comes with, but personally i just don't like the toon accurate tooling fompared to the siege mould
Not worth the price but never hade him so it would be nice geting him
I'm fighting demons on this figure cause I forced myself to stop getting repaints/retools, but my Wreckers Springer was so disappointingly terrible in its structural integrity that I would raise an eyebrow whenever anybody would bring up Siege Springer as an amazing gem of a figure. In the end I'll probably see if it goes on sale anywhere online, because I REALLY want to like this mold and Wreckers didn't give me many reasons to.
Just got mine. 55 is pricey but for the 86 SS, I'm spendn.
I still think the propeller sword looks asymmetrical in copter mode and it appears that the hole on his back for copter mode isn't a straight 5mm peg hole, meaning I can't just sub in a Thrilling 30 sword. I still don't like the green rims in front and grey in the back. I also don't like that the legs aren't retooled as much as they could have been. Some detent ratcheting on the ankle joints would have been nice. That aside, I'm really wanting to get this guy because the colors are great over all, the added intakes on the car and copter mode are great and I like what they retooled for the most part.
Daenerys Targaryen: ” Bend the knee! “
Siege Springer: “ I can’t! “
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I have the siege for 25 bucks more he's a pretty easy passbut i will say he does look good
I'm on the fence. Maybe if he goes on sale then I'll get him.
Good review and thank you, was wondering if he was worth it.
I was genuinely under the impression this was a voyager until I watched this