How I use my vintage HP 200LX today.

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
  • The Hp 200LX is part of my daily life, even though I run a product team for an internet-based company and have access to any modern technology I need. Sometimes it's nice to not have access to the internet and get work done free of distractions. In many ways there is no similar device that can outperform it today.
    In this video, I demo wireless IR printing and the software I use.

Komentáře • 185

  • @bogamanz
    @bogamanz  Před 3 lety +5

    If you want to experiment, these drivers are still hosted online: www.mizj.com/
    IRDA DOS Print Driver
    IRDA Printer Drivers
    There are separate drives for DOS and for the internal HP apps.

    • @HPPalmtopTube
      @HPPalmtopTube Před 3 lety

      Hi bogamanz, when looking at that page, did you use these 2 drivers or something else ???
      * IRDA Printer Drivers (20 KB) added 10/13/1997 (Driver) (Drivers and TSR to allow the HP 200LX to print using infrared to printers like the HP 5P. Only works with built-in apps. These drivers have a new maintaner and he has made some improvements since their initial release. Freeware - unsupported.)
      * JetEye Infrared Printer Driver (224 KB) added 08/02/1998 (Driver) (The JetEye driver will enable your HP 100/200LX to print to infrared printers from DOS applications. It was actually made for HP laptops, but there are instructions included that address the 200LX. Copyrighted, unsupported freeware.)
      Is there anything else I should know about when trying to use a Pentax PocketJet 2 (which i have) when trying to install these drivers to be able to print to it from DOS and the 200LX TSR apps ???

    • @saifal-badri
      @saifal-badri Před 2 lety

      Can you share some details on the word like program you are using here? I have been trying to run something like this on my 200lx thanks!

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi Před rokem +6

    This must have been really impressive for its time. Having such pocket computer was my childhood dream in the 90s.

  • @DavidWildgoose
    @DavidWildgoose Před 5 lety +13

    I loved my HP200LX - I had the 2MB version. Used it for years. One of my apps was a reading app that rotated the screen so that you effectively held it in your hand exactly like an open book. 40 hours life on 2 AA batteries!
    The built-in apps were held in ROM compiled as "Execute-In-Place". They didn't have to be loaded in to the RAM, switching to them was instant.
    It was just fantastic.
    You can't beat having a keyboard (and which is why I now have a Gemini PDA phone).

    • @kublaikhan1253
      @kublaikhan1253 Před 4 lety +1

      I think the reading app was Vertical Reader.

  • @PRH123
    @PRH123 Před 4 lety +9

    Great overview, thanks. Like that you are a real user, and not some guy just unboxing one he bought on EBay :) HP handhelds were awesome devices when they were DOS. Windows CE was so terrible it just killed that whole market segment.

  • @MrJamesthurston
    @MrJamesthurston Před 7 lety +8

    Thanks for posting this video! I have just been going through my old stuff and I came upon my HP-200LX. It's the 2MB version. I threw 2 AA batteries in, and it still goes just fine! (Apart from the complaint from the device about the backup battery)
    These little devices were ahead of their time. I had a ball just going through all the old data still there on my HP from the late 90's (lol) I'll NEVER throw this away. Great little keyboard.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 7 lety +2

      Your data was saved on a PC card? I thought most of those ram cards were battery backed. That's great that the data was still there after all these years. Thanks for the comment.

    • @MrJamesthurston
      @MrJamesthurston Před 7 lety

      I have an adapter in the unit for a Compact Flash (CF) card. I have a backup and restore batch file, so the unit can be stored without any batteries and retain data.

    • @Mistraker
      @Mistraker Před 7 lety +2

      The one I got at Goodwill, I had doubts about it working, but when I stuck in batteries, it fired right up. I stole the CR2032 out of my Neo Geo Pocket Color, and then the backup battery error went away, and all was well. I ran the self tests later, and everything checks out. I'm super stoked about this little machine.

  • @W4OP
    @W4OP Před 2 lety +2

    I recently purchased an HP 200LX 2M model. I started with a 95LX back in the day and moved up to a 100LX. I seamlessly moved my phone book database off of my HP 800CT. Loaded a large digit clock program and use the APPT program daily. Also have ZORK and Adventure on it for fun. Very portable and useful.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 2 lety

      Very interesting use cases for today. Not many folks are managing their phone database off of their cell these days. My calendar changes too often to not rely on a cloud-based solution. I don't use either of these features. Glad you are still getting use out of it!

  • @ruim8590
    @ruim8590 Před 3 lety +3

    Dude, this is actually one of the best reviews I've seen ever on anything. It's exactly what I was looking for, congrats. Gave you a follow

  • @tibfulv
    @tibfulv Před 4 lety +2

    HP used to make really high-end calculators. No wonder this one's so good. It clearly came from the same department that made the HP-48.

    • @macieksoft
      @macieksoft Před 2 lety +1

      The keyboard looks a bit similar in style to 48GX.

  • @jvolstad
    @jvolstad Před 6 lety +4

    I owned one of these back in the days. Very cool.

    • @tibfulv
      @tibfulv Před 4 lety

      I wonder if blueprints and schematics are available for it. Perhaps we could open source it and make it available again. I'd love to have a Unix palmtop computer.

  • @gate9595
    @gate9595 Před rokem +1

    Only God knows how much I truly miss legacy/vintage technologies! They are irrelevant today, but still too darn cool!

  • @Mistraker
    @Mistraker Před 7 lety +6

    I recently found one of these at Goodwill. I absolutely love old computers and video game consoles, and this was quite a find for me. I enjoy using my TRS-80 model 100, but it's a bit limited in what it can do, and I don't currently have an effective way to transfer data with it. This device, though, being a full DOS computer, is far more useful. It's been a while, but I'm far more familiar with DOS than BASIC devices.
    I saw your video demonstrating CAD software on the machine. It showed just how flexible and capable it is. I got a CF card and PCMCIA adapter for it, but I found out the card I got needs a driver. I ordered a smaller capacity card that should work without one, so hopefully I can use it to install the driver I need.
    I might want to ask you about your setup, if you're willing. But, after I learn a bit more about the device, and install some software on it.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 7 lety +1

      Feel free to ask any questions. Cad on this thing is actually more capable and easy to use than AutoCAD 360 designed for modern phones/tablets. I have a smaller capacity CF card. It works great with no driver.

    • @silicatewielder1128
      @silicatewielder1128 Před 7 lety

      I purchased a 95LX to use for school purposes, and I was wondering, do you need drivers to use the Pocketjet or did you have to find some homebrew ones to get it working?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 7 lety

      Yes, there were special drivers. I have them in an email I sent to another youTuber. I can send along to you if you need them.

  • @robertst-louis7164
    @robertst-louis7164 Před 8 lety +2

    Loved your exposé on the 200LX, a device I myself have been using on and off for over 20 years, for work or personal use. I just today bought a HP Omnigo 100 palmtop which was to be an evolution from the 200LX but is unusable, whereas the LX will continue to be usable for decades to come, for any application that uses text and numbers. Thousands of DOS applications and utilities to use. Sure, my iPhone does things the LX could never do, and is also very useful, but I like the standalone functionality and information processing capability of the LX. Thanks again, I'll start using my LX again, inspired by your video (and finally look into getting software carrousel, which I should have got years ago)

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      I'm glad you enjoyed the video! The story goes that Stanley Kubrick called the software company to request that they adapt software carousel to the HP. It is very well adapted to the machine. I actually had an Omnigo in 90s as a student. The best thing about is was that teachers had no idea what it was, so let's just say that it gave me an unfair advantage in my math class. I don't have much else positive to say about it.

    • @robertst-louis7164
      @robertst-louis7164 Před 8 lety

      +bogamanz Yeah the Omnigo 100 is a nice-looking little device, similar looking plastic to the 200LX, but in spite of the ahead-of-its-time stylus and GUI, it's frustrating to use. The 200LX in contrast, feels to me like a well broken in pair of favourite shoes. Interesting story about Kubrick. I'll have to find a copy of Carousel somewhere, to finally try it out. Cheers.

    • @lorumipsum1129
      @lorumipsum1129 Před 5 lety

      Robert St-Louis if it had enough ports, you could probably use it as a cash register. That’s how several dos machines are used near me.

    • @lorumipsum1129
      @lorumipsum1129 Před 5 lety

      Robert St-Louis does yours have that crack around the hinge that these are known to get? I just got one for on the go quicken and retrogaming.

  • @jbecerrat
    @jbecerrat Před 8 lety +5

    El mio, desde Mayo-1998, HP 200 LX con 4 MB RAM, todavía lo considero insuperable, varias hojas de cálculo Lotus *.wk1, compatibles con Excel, agenda, calculadora financiera, y con otros programas instalados, uno de ajedrez (PowerChess v5.3 de 1989!). Uno de los mejores computadores que he usado en toda mi vida!

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety +1

      +Jairo Becerra Torres Gracias, PowerChess es un muy buen programa de ajedrez. ¿Dos personas pueden jugar PowerChess?

    • @jbecerrat
      @jbecerrat Před 8 lety

      +bogamanz No, dos personas no pueden jugar PowerChess, un programa de 1989, ni siquiera se conocía el Internet por aquellos años y el HP 200 LX no existía aún.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety +1

      +Jairo Becerra Torres Gracias. Estaba pensando en dos personas en un solo computadora. (Sin el internet)

    • @jbecerrat
      @jbecerrat Před 8 lety

      +bogamanz Del manual de PowerChess v5.3: " 2) Player-window. In this window you see who es next (WHITE/BLACK) and if multimove is on or not (ON/OFF). Multimove means that the computer does not make its move automatically after your move. So it is possible for you to make decisions on your partner´s moves and to choose a special variation, eg. the Sicilian Opening" 3) Analyse-window ...." Saludos.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      Gracias, yo quiero jugar al ajedrez con mi novio.

  • @MrGlibguy
    @MrGlibguy Před 7 lety +1

    You can also write macros not only in Lotus 123 but you can also write macros that allow interaction between all the built in apps. This is useful if you want to share info in quicken with database and a spreadsheet program to do extremely complicated and repetitive tasks. Extremely useful and time saving for all sorts of problem solving or report generating tasks.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 7 lety

      Very cool! I don't think I'll ever get to that level with Lotus, but it is amazing that spread sheet applications today don't have many killer features that didn't exist in the 80's. I feel that software is getting more locked down as we move to the cloud.

  • @Turborider
    @Turborider Před 8 lety +22

    The 200LX came out in *3* models: 1MB, 2MB and 4MB

    •  Před 6 lety

      Turborider uwu the 4 MB model sounds so cutting edge nwn

    • @lorumipsum1129
      @lorumipsum1129 Před 5 lety +1

      Turborider thier was also a variant with 6 mb with a daughter board, though the others can have this board installed too.

    • @tibfulv
      @tibfulv Před 4 lety +1

      And could be upgraded to 64 MB.

  • @IIIJFRIII
    @IIIJFRIII Před 8 lety +1

    That is so awesome that you still use that thing. Cheers man!

  • @saifal-badri
    @saifal-badri Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much! I love this little dos PC, After a long eBay hunt I found the 4MB versions which was the last one HP made before switching to Windows CE 1.0 on Palmtops.

  • @drothokkroc4061
    @drothokkroc4061 Před 8 lety +5

    These Palmtop PCs are great!
    Sad that they don´t make them anymore.

    • @tibfulv
      @tibfulv Před 4 lety +2

      I wonder if blueprints and schematics are available for it. Perhaps we could open source it and make it available again. I'd love to have a Unix palmtop computer.

  • @kippie80
    @kippie80 Před 5 lety +1

    I still have mine. Used it for 10years, HP had excellent support for this the whole time. For 200$ they'd send u a new one and u send the old one back to them in same box. IPhone 2G killed this one for me. Only thing it lacked was global search capability - iPhone had this and this was the 'killer app' for me. To this day, my personal contacts originated from this device.

    • @kippie80
      @kippie80 Před 5 lety +1

      Oh yeah, i still use it as a programmer for 68HC11 micro controllers. Have cross compiler and utillities on it for that.

    • @dlarge6502
      @dlarge6502 Před 2 lety

      I find phones are just too slow. Devices like this, or even simpler personal organisers are essential for me as if it is slow, or has too many steps, I will end up forgetting to unlock the phone and do "it" whatever that is.
      For example. My Fitbit. I can use that maybe a month before I have lost the plot and stop logging food items etc. The workflow is too slow and coupled with the slow steps like getting the mobile out of the pocket and opening the case, unlocking it, locating app, watching app draw it's UI and animate things needlessly just makes it so boring.
      Even on my core i5 Dell laptop, logging in is a chore. Full of spinning dots, welcome messages, icons that constantly refresh, background jobs eating 90% of the CPU. It feels like I'm booting win 95 on my old 486, literally nothing changed! Linux on my PC however, login, BOOM there is the desktop.
      These devices are fast. Old, 16 bit, running dos, no nonsense, fast interface. Why do "modern" device's replace this with flashy animation and usability barriers?

  • @oldtwins
    @oldtwins Před 6 lety +4

    Nice, had one back in the day but had to sell it later to put food on the table. Hope to scavenge for one again.

  • @tibfulv
    @tibfulv Před 4 lety +1

    DJGPP is a 32-bit compiler designed to output 16-bit code. It's a port of GCC to DOS. There's also OpenWatcom, which I also think is maintained.

  • @sergeymishchenko9596
    @sergeymishchenko9596 Před 2 lety

    Great machine! I use it to this day. I use it as a notebook, I use the COM port (I connect an external ADC). Thing!

  • @TuNnL
    @TuNnL Před rokem

    That's amazing you were able to install the full version of Lotus on this device. It's pretty sad how the UMPC form-factor was abandoned by major manufacturers like HP.
    Hopefully they make a comeback, and not on Android, which I only use because iOS is even worse. 💁🏻‍♂️

  • @Ioshka1
    @Ioshka1 Před 4 lety

    Still my favorite device!

  • @NewbieGeek123
    @NewbieGeek123 Před 8 lety +1

    My father has one of these, i used to play a labirynth kind of game in first person when I was younger, I re discovered the device some days ago, but the screen is broken, and I cant find a replacement... I wish I could use that to writing to, I just loved that.

    • @Mistraker
      @Mistraker Před 7 lety

      Was it "Lair of the Squid"? You wander around in a maze finding letters to make a password to get to the next level, and squids occasionally murder you. It's a game built into the ROM software, along with a minesweeper clone.
      200lx.net claims to have screens for sale, but for $80. I'm seeing 100lx and 200lx systems for about $100, so it's probably better to just buy a new system. If you do, though, you should sell your old system for parts. Good to keep them in the mix, so other people with broken systems can fix them.
      By the way, if you get a new system, the 100lx and 200lx are nearly identical. You probably shouldn't get a 95lx. It's not that it's a bad device, but the resolution is lower, which means it's compatible with far fewer DOS programs. The 100lx and 200lx systems do CGA graphics, and work with way more programs as a result.

  • @michaelcloutier2225
    @michaelcloutier2225 Před rokem

    I have a vender moded 5MB ram and CUP over clocked unit(they sold them with either or both. I got it back in the day and have a 2 modems and a ethernet card that all work great. I can do very limited internet access. I take it out once in a while. I do wish I had a printer like that one.

  • @cleverson_sa_
    @cleverson_sa_ Před 8 lety

    Hello, really nice video! Glad to know someone else use using this really nice device nowadays. I have a good tablet, laptop, desktop and smartphone, but my novel writting productivity increased a lot when I started to use this thinny device again to draft some scenes. I have the 4MB RAM model with a 256MB CF Flashcard. I ran WordStar 5.5 and Windows 3.0 just for joy, but the built apps are really functional for my needs! Just fit into the pocket and use it everywhere! Thanks

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      Another great tool for writers is the palmOs based Dana. m.czcams.com/video/OCuLIC9IPqM/video.html Here you get a full size keyboard, simple connectivity, and great battery life with no modern distractions. I'm very glad you are still using a HP 200lx. It sounds like you have the top of the line system (I only have one Meg).

    • @cleverson_sa_
      @cleverson_sa_ Před 8 lety

      bogamanz Indeed, I was a hard PalmOS user into 2000's, Documents to Go was my main tool. I heard about the alphasmart, nice keyboard, but I really needed a thin device to write outside home. I saw at Amazon's a device called Pomera DM100 that writes only text without distraction. Thinny, portable, maybe a good option. By know, my restored HP 200lx are taking the joglb very well. Thanks for reply

  • @kilrahvp
    @kilrahvp Před 6 lety +4

    Nice! Nowadays you need a GPD Win 2, full featured PC that's basically smaller than this :)

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 6 lety +7

      I have a GDP Win, I agree that it is similar, but miss the fact that the HP can run for 30+ hours on 2 AA batteries (that one can find anywhere) and turns on instantly. If you want to take notes or keep a spreadsheet going, and not worry about constant charging, the HP 200lx is still more useful today than anything I've used. I would like a really dumbed down modern computer with an outdoor readable display that is optimized towards needing one charge per month. Even something with a Netbook's performance would be interesting.

    • @lorumipsum1129
      @lorumipsum1129 Před 5 lety

      kilrahvp it’s not really smaller. Is much thicker. But a little shorter

    • @kilrahvp
      @kilrahvp Před 5 lety +1

      Xinless Vice yeah but it's a real full featured PC like we always wanted, not a reduced feature set thing like "handheld pc" and "pocket pc" were...

    • @lorumipsum1129
      @lorumipsum1129 Před 5 lety

      kilrahvp true. But that’s also what the hp 200 and 100lx were. It wasn’t until the hp omnigo that they became real actively meh pocket PCs, this was the gpd win 1 and 2 of its day, but it also came with pin apps.

    • @kilrahvp
      @kilrahvp Před 5 lety

      @@bogamanz ​ @Xinless Vice Just grabbed a mint 2MB 200LX on eBay to play with, will be fun!

  • @roostersideburns3440
    @roostersideburns3440 Před 5 lety +2

    that small printer is way cool

  • @Samson1
    @Samson1 Před 8 měsíci

    Personally, I prefer a world where I can press 'send' on a device, point it at another one and send whatever I want without fuss with the knowledge that the device I'm sending to is the ONLY device that is aware of mine's existence and of the data being transferred.
    Considering IrDA was running at gigabit speeds before Bluetooth took over, IrDA in my opinion is the most secure, reliable and the fastest way of sending and receiving files outside of WiFi. I find convenience highly subjective.
    -Psion user

  • @HPPalmtopTube
    @HPPalmtopTube Před 3 lety +2

    you should consider getting a Psion Series 5 MX, it has an amazing keyboard that you can touchtype on just as fast as a normal keyboard,
    and it also has a word compatible WYSIWIG word processor, spreadsheet etc... it would be much better to use for typing stuff than the clunky little keys on a 200lx ;)

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 3 lety

      I do admire the Psion devices. I also have an Alpha smart Dana, which is a great distraction free device with a full sized keyboard and a lit screen. Today, I use my Microsoft folding keyboard with a phone or tablet when traveling light.

    • @HPPalmtopTube
      @HPPalmtopTube Před 3 lety

      @@bogamanz i bought a pocketjet 3plus and there is a complete driver for EPOC (Psion 5/5mx) which works just like a windows driver and you can print graphics embedded in the word documents on it etc... it works with all EPOC apps :) it's really cool...

  • @UdoKrawallo
    @UdoKrawallo Před 5 lety +2

    Interesting device, having a real Pocket-PC with DOS, today Windows devices in that size are rather rare to non-existent.
    That it runs on AA batteries is also a good thing. I have one of the successors, the Jornada 680, as collectible. Unfortunately not really usable anymore. The specific battery(Li-Ion or NiMh it was) is dead, and not sold anymore(or for outrageous prices), therefore a disadvantage.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 5 lety +1

      New pocketable computers came out since I made this video. Gpd win makes a few models and the one mix yoga is a solid little build with an 8 or so hour battery. None of these use AA batteries though, so they won't likely be usefull in 20 years. The HD color screens are much better though.

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 Před 8 lety +1

    That thing looks pretty sweet

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      Great to see another palmOs fan. I love the IIIc and tapwave zodiac.

    • @Sb129
      @Sb129 Před 8 lety

      +bogamanz Thanks, I've been using them for about 15 years, just like your HP 200LX, There's just a few things a Palm can do that the everyday smartphone can't

  • @jfairplane8520
    @jfairplane8520 Před 4 lety

    My Nec 780 was the best thing i ever get !!

  • @Desprogramando
    @Desprogramando Před 7 lety

    Beautiful!

  • @joyschtik
    @joyschtik Před 4 lety +1

    I’ll stick to my iPad now. Thanks for the video

  • @retrotechnical
    @retrotechnical Před 8 lety

    Great demonstration. Not only still functional but useable and practical 22 years after it was made - we will be able to say the same for an iPhone in 2038?

    • @Mistraker
      @Mistraker Před 7 lety +1

      The limiting factor for a lot of modern electronics is the battery. An iPhone won't have a usable battery in that time, and likely no one will be manufacturing new batteries. The battery also isn't easily replaced. I suppose you could plug it in and use it, if it still worked otherwise. Being massively more complicated, there's a lot more to go wrong on it, though.
      The same issues will begin to affect some electronics that I already have, like my GBA SP, Micro, and DS. I wish we had standardized lithium ion batteries for these sort of devices, for the sake of longevity.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 7 lety

      Yeah I complete agree with you, although replacement batteries are sometimes surprisingly still being made. For example, you can get a new battery for a palm IIIc device. Besides weirdos like me, I'm not sure who's restoring these. I wonder if with 3d printing and such if this problem might one day be solved. Perhaps we will be able to order obsolete batteries from a database. (Create a stock battery in a number of sizes/voltages. Embed in a 3d printed shell to the exact dimensions a certain device requires. Build in or attach the required connector.) Until then, long live AA batteries!

    • @Mistraker
      @Mistraker Před 7 lety

      bogamanz: Some batteries can be refurbished. That is to say, you disassemble them, remove the old dead cells, and replace them with either cells of the same type still being made today, or some equivalent that will still fit in the assembled battery. That being said, I don't think that's possible with most phone batteries, as they don't use any kind of standardized cell.
      But yeah, some future tech might make reproduction of these batteries easier, and a niche market could continue to support aging devices like this. With devices, like the palm device you mentioned, they continue to get supported because some companies just don't have the cash to spend to resupply all employees with new devices. I recall seeing a video on the channel Techmoan which detailed a video format that used tapes around the size of an audio cassette, and how small airlines were using them for long, long after they were obsolete, with some maybe even still using them for in-flight movies.
      I saw someone else pick up a 200LX that was locked into a custom hard case with a built in adapter to turn the serial port into a standard RS232. It was being used as a data collection device well after most companies had switched to newer machines.
      So, if you like old machines, and would like to still have parts and so on available, looking for stuff that was used commonly in business isn't a terrible idea.

  • @WXLM-MorganNicole619
    @WXLM-MorganNicole619 Před rokem +1

    I’m surprised that the thing doesn’t have y2k issues

  • @activelow9297
    @activelow9297 Před 2 lety

    You forgot to demonstrate the "killer app" for the HP 95/100/200LX series.... "Lair of Squid"!

  • @dimitrioskalfakis
    @dimitrioskalfakis Před 2 lety

    that era is gone forever ;-( . modern crap is devoid of fun and inspiration!

  • @ihatecrooks
    @ihatecrooks Před 6 lety +3

    Are you able to print via infrared from Lotus 123? I can print from the other built-in apps, but not Lotus.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 6 lety +2

      ihatecrooks yes but I installed the "real" version of Lotus via dos. I even use that sideways print program.

  • @dbbyres
    @dbbyres Před 3 lety +1

    Nice, I have the 100LX. What is the make & model of that printer? I've never seen one like that.

  • @jmadd1000
    @jmadd1000 Před 2 lety

    Still use mine everyday.

  • @gincoba
    @gincoba Před 3 lety +1

    Hi there! Nice video! I prowdly own an HP 200LX. Could you share where you managed to get Software Carousel, in order to have multiple instances of DOS? Thanks! Cheers!

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 3 lety

      I purchased this copy from Thaddeus Computing INC. Also this vendor sells some custom setup of this software: www.rundel.net/palmtop/hp200/software_carousel.htm

    • @gincoba
      @gincoba Před 3 lety

      @@bogamanz Thanks a lot for the info!

    • @bmckim
      @bmckim Před 2 lety

      @@bogamanz I am not having any luck finding any way to access Software Carousel. Any advice would be appreciated.

  • @MrGlibguy
    @MrGlibguy Před 4 lety

    Bogamanz, which DOS version of Lotus did you load tothe 200LX ? I became an expert in writing programs within Lotus using MCL (Macro Command Language) and wrote intense applications that solved many a problems for folks in sales. I also wrote macros within the 200LX to switch back and forth between 123, DBase, Quicken, etc. It was amazing what I was able to accomplish in a very short period of time using the progams I wrote using 123's build in MCL. But the ultimate would be to run the commercial version so I could utilize my most progressive, very complicated spreadsheets. I started repairing these units and consequently have a large assortment of parts, motherboards, etc. I also have a large quantity of special made crystals for double speeding that I would solder to the motherboard, and came up with a lot of unique fixes for the unit as it has quite a few weakpoints.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 4 lety

      I'm using release 2.4. I imagine there are other versions that would work just fine. One of my 200lx's screens gave up the ghost, so I'm a lot more careful with the remaining device and no longer use it regularly. These things aren't as cheap as they were when I made this video. I'm not sure I'd recomend the device if bought at today's prices as one will need spare parts like you mention.

  • @laurentd9980
    @laurentd9980 Před 5 lety +1

    I'd love to get one of these, but I'm really scared by the small size: at only 6.3 in / 15.9 cm wide, it looks the screen is hardly legible in 80x25 text mode (although it seems it can optionally boot with a larger text font / less lines). It really looks like this screen is a strain on the eyes, isn't it ?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 5 lety +2

      I haven't had much of a problem. Someone older or with vision problems may have issues.

    • @laurentd9980
      @laurentd9980 Před 5 lety +1

      @@bogamanz Thanks for your feedback. I actually ordered one just yesterday, so I will soon "see for myself" :-)

  • @virajdhananjayadinuviraj

    Great video 👍
    I have found one.
    can you plez tell How can i change the language ?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 2 lety

      I don't know if you can. At this point there was limited ROM size.

    • @virajdhananjayadinuviraj
      @virajdhananjayadinuviraj Před 2 lety

      I mean, I need to change the system language of the palmtop.
      The one I have has Latin so I need to change it to English.
      Do you know how to do it ?

  • @jon87386
    @jon87386 Před 8 lety +3

    You mentioned it took quite a while to get the printer working. What settings/drivers are you using?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety +1

      I can send the files via email. It is tricky since the dos drivers are different from those ones to use when loading HP software. Go to my about page on CZcams to find my email and I'll reply back with conf files and drivers.

    • @jon87386
      @jon87386 Před 8 lety

      Awesome, will do

    • @jon87386
      @jon87386 Před 8 lety

      +bogamanz Heya, your about section no longer has the email (even though it says it does?)
      As such I'll be idling on Freenode in the channel #waitingforbogamanz

    • @ScottSpeed95
      @ScottSpeed95 Před 5 lety

      @@bogamanz if the drivers are still available I would love it if you could help me out. I just got the exact same setup minus my pocketjet isn't a plus model
      Thank you!!

  • @STANI420
    @STANI420 Před 4 lety

    amazing

  • @NathanHassall
    @NathanHassall Před 11 měsíci

    Its been 8 years and Im curious how many times being able to carry a printer in your backpack and print thing has come in handy? Im guessing 2000 times?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 11 měsíci

      To be fair, I don't travel for work much (since the coronavirus) and no longer carry this computer wherever I go or need the printer when traveling. This little printer is great for someone who occasionally prints and works on modern computers too. Last time I checked, they were still making them.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 11 měsíci

      Latest model: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1743473-REG/brother_pj_822_pocketjet_8_200dpi_thermal.html/?ap=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAjwgZCoBhBnEiwAz35RwsmULBicQqdeYz5Db6XEfirPb_if3ylyY_wxAKGZ5H12_GU0WEd07BoConcQAvD_BwE

  • @jon87386
    @jon87386 Před 9 lety

    I just ordered a 95LX off Ebay :D
    Yeah it's only half-CGA res so I can't run windows... but I might get a 200LX if I like it enough.
    My phone has an IR transmitter (no receiver though). I wonder if I could do one-way file transmission....

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 9 lety

      Maybe! Especially if you can write your own drivers or find one. These devices appear to use a non-standard ir driver (hence the special printer driver I installed). A PC Card to Compact Flash adapter has proven to be the easiest way to interface with modern devices for me.

  • @waterup380
    @waterup380 Před 10 měsíci

    when printing what paper did you use

  • @williamlove3087
    @williamlove3087 Před 4 lety

    Hi,
    I purchased a HP-200LX. I wish to obtain information from you about using this pocket computer as a Word Processor. Are there any programs to purchase?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 4 lety

      Microsoft released word 5.5 for free some time ago. Please check this link out for more info: social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/a677155e-412e-4598-878b-6aa6f5464dc3/word-50-for-dos-or-word-55-for-dos-download-location-on-ms-site?forum=winservergen

  • @regenceaudio
    @regenceaudio Před 2 lety

    Is there an application that will do a full 200LX backup to CF so it can be easily restored?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 2 lety

      I save everything to the CF card, so I can simply save an image of the card on a modern computer. I recall modifying the AUTOEXEC.BAT to make it my working directory.

  • @petemoss2840
    @petemoss2840 Před 2 lety

    Is there any way to connect HP 200LX to a MacBook?

  • @JohnBilkey
    @JohnBilkey Před 4 lety +1

    The real question... can it run Doom?

    • @tibfulv
      @tibfulv Před 4 lety

      Only if a PC/XT can. But they have put Doom on a HP 50 so maybe?

  • @miyawuh9084
    @miyawuh9084 Před 4 lety

    I got 620 LX its still works though the screen is a bit shady. How do i replace the screen?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 4 lety

      I do not have a 620 LX. With the backlit screen, it might be a challenge. Many old back lights were florescent tubes, which can age. I wonder if that is what is shady?

  • @obsidian9998
    @obsidian9998 Před 6 lety

    Wonder if iclick can fit into that?

  • @garfieldepicmoments
    @garfieldepicmoments Před 5 lety

    Do you have a copy of Software Carousel? Can't find anything about it online.

    • @robertgormley7602
      @robertgormley7602 Před 4 lety +1

      www.palmtoppaper.com/store/asp/prodtype.asp?prodtype=57

  • @MrGlibguy
    @MrGlibguy Před 4 lety

    I can fix your HP200LX with the screen problem if you want. Won't charge much other than postage and $10 for the screen. I have hundreds of spare parts for the unit.

  • @Zeloverevolution
    @Zeloverevolution Před 8 lety +1

    Couldn't you just connect to a portable bluetooth printer?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      +Inceptual Games This old device does not have bluetooth, but Bluetooth printers are great for modern devices (in unsecured locations). Most 8.5x11 Bluetooth printers are not portable though. Printers in general will be obsolete for the masses soon (if not already), but I love being able to print wherever. This printer also works with a modern computer.

    • @Zeloverevolution
      @Zeloverevolution Před 8 lety

      bogamanz
      Yeah that's kinda what I meant, an x86 notebook or tablet these days are pretty damn useful, and battery life is fairly decent too, at least a few days without any need for charging.

    • @someguy3032
      @someguy3032 Před 8 lety

      what interface does this printer use to connect to the computer?

  • @ryanstevens3822
    @ryanstevens3822 Před 2 lety

    huh can this run qbasic or frotz

  • @whutwhy
    @whutwhy Před 8 lety

    you might be able to do that business card thing with NFC

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      Without a doubt! I am unaware of a widespread, modern version of the "beam" though. Seems like a great product for LinkedIn to develop.

    • @leisergeist
      @leisergeist Před 8 lety

      +bogamanz dang, I'd back that

    • @0xbenedikt
      @0xbenedikt Před 8 lety

      Maybe QR would wrk too. There are apps that can easily generate a QR code from a Business card and the other person could just scan the QR with their phone and get the vCard this way. Might be more widespread than using NFC.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      Maybe, but there are limitations. The minimum recommended size for a QR code is 1.2 inches square, so that is going to take up a lot of real estate. The max file associated with that small footprint may be rather small, you aren't going to want to put too much data on there. If you do, a device with a smudged camera or a user in a dim room might have issues. I'd guess you could only get 500 bytes of data or less. Some professions do not allow camera phones (like defense contractors). Plus you are still using a business card, why are these still mandatory in the modern age?

    • @0xbenedikt
      @0xbenedikt Před 8 lety

      bogamanz I thought more about letting the other person scan the QR code right from the display of the first one.
      Of course nowadays, business cards could be shared using means like email.

  • @OfficialRetroPlayCast
    @OfficialRetroPlayCast Před 3 lety

    But can it run doom?

  • @paulm64
    @paulm64 Před 3 lety

    Where do you get the paper for that printer?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 3 lety +1

      Search for Brother LB3788 Thermal Paper 8 1/2 Inch.

    • @paulm64
      @paulm64 Před 3 lety

      @@bogamanz Thanks!

  • @wrryleopared485
    @wrryleopared485 Před 8 lety

    i use a hp OmniGo 100 for notes in 8th grade

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety

      That's fantastic! I had an omnigo 20 years ago when I was a 9th grader. I saved up for a year to buy it. It was ultimately stolen, but I don't think you will have that problem today.

    • @Mistraker
      @Mistraker Před 7 lety

      I saw a video for hacking the omnigo to be able to boot DOS, so you can use it to run DOS software. You need the serial cable to do it, though.

  • @alexmaley1810
    @alexmaley1810 Před 6 lety

    Can it run Windows?

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 6 lety +1

      Alex Maley Yes, but I wouldn't recommend Windows without a pointing device. Here is more info: gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/hp200lx_e.htm#win

    • @alexmaley1810
      @alexmaley1810 Před 6 lety +1

      That's awsome! I wish my HP 600lx would run Windows 3.0 or Windows 95 rather than Windows CE. But that's still pretty cool for you to use. Still, Windows CE is cool too.

  • @intuitiveexplorer
    @intuitiveexplorer Před 9 lety

    I have two of these I'm selling. I've uploaded videos of them operating.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 9 lety

      +intuitiveexplorer Good luck! I'd add the eBay link to my videos instead of the item number so folks can find your auction.

    • @intuitiveexplorer
      @intuitiveexplorer Před 9 lety

      That's a good idea. Thanks. I sold a couple of these the past spring, then took a break from messing around on eBay over the summer. These are the last of them that I have.

  • @AndrewGray1987
    @AndrewGray1987 Před 7 lety

    NFC or QR code to send vcards.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 7 lety +1

      Or today send a MMS with your contact info attached. Still with PalmOs, this was a one button transaction. If I have a business phone, making a new contact should be as simple as possible instead of an awkward set of steps. Most of the time, folks are drinking heavily when exchanging contacts (in my industry at least). Compare to this: "After the initial setup, the fastest and most impressive way to exchange your business card is to simply press and hold the Address Book button on your Palm for just a few seconds. If your unit is off, the system will first turn on. Then, after about two seconds, your PDA will initiate the beaming to any neighboring unit that’s within range." You could easily beam any note, calendar event or file on the device using a few keystrokes.

  • @Waoweens
    @Waoweens Před 8 lety

    Y U DO DIS / Y U WUD U DO DIS 2 MEEEEEEH

  • @webgpu
    @webgpu Před 2 lety

    Th, th, th, that's all folks!

  • @user-ky7yt2km9h
    @user-ky7yt2km9h Před 2 lety

    You know, you know, you know, You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know…..

  • @briandeeb6378
    @briandeeb6378 Před 8 lety

    YOU KNOW

  • @ezegl7520
    @ezegl7520 Před 4 lety

    Rasberry pi4 +win 10 y a la mierda

    • @dlarge6502
      @dlarge6502 Před 2 lety

      Hmm, no screen, no keyboard, doesn't run on AA batteries. So far the RPI lost. Also, why the hell would anyone run win 10 on a Pi??

  • @someguy3032
    @someguy3032 Před 8 lety

    I am better , smaller and in color :-D
    for those who did not get it look at my profile picture and name ;-)

    • @0xbenedikt
      @0xbenedikt Před 8 lety

      I own and really like both, my ZipIt Z2 and my HP 100LX (which has the same hardware as the HP 200LX) :P

    • @moofymoo
      @moofymoo Před 7 lety

      not sure if that is what she wanted.

    • @MihaiPruna
      @MihaiPruna Před 6 lety

      sorry, no, you are too buggy with Linux and your keyboard lacks some important keys

  • @geemailMossman
    @geemailMossman Před 4 lety +8

    Hard to listen to

  • @TrueYears
    @TrueYears Před 8 lety +2

    Your pros for it make no sense at all "Because it lacks the ability to use internet it's a great device! Because you don't get distracted" yeah so does turning airplane mode on

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety +6

      +TrueYears For many, sure. Computer users in general have shifted from content creators to consumers. Who writes or programs on a tablet or phone? There is a growing movement today around distraction free devices (especially for writers). Having the entire world at ones fingertips can be a distraction for some of us. The temptation of turning wifi on is too much. I certainly get more reading done with a kindle compared to a tablet for instance. Others are are building new devices to solve this problem. You can buy an overpriced $500 modern digital typewriter now. As a rule, today's devices are built for content consumption, not creation. With older computers, the user can configure/install/hack/program anything. Regardless, the battery life on my cutting edge Note 5 is less than a few active hours. If it's tethered to an outlet, it's not really a portable device. I play games and read email on it, but hardly do any real work on the phone.

    • @TrueYears
      @TrueYears Před 8 lety +1

      +bogamanz then it's subjective. I run a Amazon and eBay business and with out my iPhone/G3/S6 I wouldn't get much done. I also use a Bluetooth keyboard to write letters and have Bluetooth printer which I use to print labels. Even if I wanted to, I wouldn't be able to use this 200XL. Now I've owned before I sold it on eBay. its great novelty product but let's not kid ourselves you're using it for mere novelty of it. You tried really hard to justified this on your video "no internet so no distractions" the only pro I saw was maybe the battery life because on a device thats running off a 80186 Intel from 1982, driving a CGA 640×200 screen, it's what we should be expecting. Now had you said, "I use this device because I want to" I wouldn't be dissecting your reasons but you didn't. "eh no backlight" you know where a lot of work gets done? In bed and you're telling me this thing gets work done? I will say this 22 years ago this device was great and very innovative and my uncle owned one and it's the one he gave me. But as soon he could he upgraded to something better. If you like it and gets work done then awesome but dont make a con and try to pass it as a pro here.

    • @bogamanz
      @bogamanz  Před 8 lety +4

      TrueYears Neither of us are going to win an argument here because we both feel strongly our own way. I would not recommend this device as a primary computer or laptop, but is is super useful on a trip. I can take this device with me camping and spend the weekend writing a C++ program that will be useful for personal or business needs. Or I can take occasional notes while leaving my phone for an emergency. No, this computer cannot run an online business or modern software, but it can teach the user about the fundamentals of computing or take notes without the user being tempted into responding to folks on youtube :) I'd trade it in today if there was a modern pocket device (readable in direct sunlight) that ran windows XP for 30 days on 2 AA batteries.

    • @Mistraker
      @Mistraker Před 7 lety +3

      Yeah, but are people going to actually do that? Having a device without the option is more effective at eliminating distraction. Makes pretty decent sense to me.

    •  Před 6 lety

      TrueYears its a cool device for its time, and very useful even today

  • @noth606
    @noth606 Před 4 lety

    Otherwise would be good but I can't listen to this style of talk, repeating every other word 2-3 times. I'd walk out if this was a presentation and I'm doing the virtual equivalent by not finishing the video. You do realize you don't have to spit out 120words a minute? Speak slower and you'll have enough time to not do this repeat thing.