Reviewing ALL of Kubota's Zero Turn Mowers
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Great review! I’ve got a 2009 ZG 222. What a great mower. Only 550 hours but no issues or complaints!
I've had a z726x for 3 years now and have put 400 hours on it, and the mower is an absolute beast!
I run the ZD1211 every weekday, working through 100 acres every week. Great, comfortable machine. The spring cushion seat eats up the jolts and the heavy blades hold a good edge for quite a while. Got over 700 hours on it now and all I've had to replace is rear tires, fluids and filters. Highly recommend, although it won't mow nearly as quickly as the old Hustler Super Z - that thing is a hotrod and will beat you to death!
As always - informative and educational in a very nice style.
Great explanation- thanks for the video!
Another very informative video Neil! I watched it four times, and was able to narrow it down to the series for my application 👍🏻
I'm actually gonna try out their stand on model hopefully this mowing season
I really like my ZD1000 particularly the fuel economy. I can fill up in the AM and cut all day and rarely use 2-3 gallons of diesel. Since I use farm diesel, the cost is cheaper than gasoline, at least before the Wuhan. The only complaint I have is that the drive shaft requires grease at three spots, one of which is back under the transmission and it is an absolute pain in the arse to get to. The front wheels axel’s also require grease as well as the top insert for the wheel spindle. If you cut a lot of grass, the screens in front of the radiator will require cleaning so that the motor doesn’t overheat. So watch the temp gauge. Other than requiring about 50% more scheduled service on the chassis than gas models, the diesels are well worth the effort and cost.
The main thing though is once you get north of the 3000 hr range you will find all your chassis parts are rebuildable where other mowers you have to start fabricating parts for the mower because they should of been non wear items.
I build the Z200, Z400, and Z700 mowers at the plant in Georgia. Orders coming in faster than we can put them together!
Some of those are mine!
@@MessicksEquip keep on ordering, im enjoying all the overtime!
Just bought one. 😎
Are in Jefferson or 365 location?
Any good?
ZD326 owner. It has 1000 non commercial hours. Having an air seat is the only way to improve them. That's why the 1211 looks so much like my 2008. They hit it out of the park.
Check out the suspension on that Ferris mower behind him. That is what Kubota needs.
I'm loving my 421 so far the right size for the application
Kawasaki engines are great! 👍
Kubota ZG127S has served me well on my 5 acres for the last 7+ years. Besides belts I did have a starter bend its shaft and a deck pulley wear out. Otherwise no problems and I have nothing bad to say about the kohler 27hp engine. I my only complaint is the low profile rear tires are a bit rough and the led lights are useless. Its built tough and I don't see any reason to go up a class of mower for a residential use. The 54" deck is plenty for 5 acres so I don't agree with the ratings given here. I would recommend the kubota mowers and would buy one again.
Just got a Z724X from a daughter who's father died of COVID. He had 47 hours on it. It is a beast!
What did him dead from covid have to do with the mower? Could have just said he passed away
@@joem8875 It's a fact. If you don't like facts then go back to your sad life.
Love my ZD 221, now. Before I was used to it I didn't like it, all I could think was how am I going to tell my wife we spent 10 grand on a lawn mower and I don't like it. Then my mind thought, you're NOT going to tell her that because that would make for a bad bad day, well month really. Anyway thankfully I got used to it and now I don't think I would take a tractor type mower if they were giving them away.
Wow...... very very good run down.
Excellent overview, thanks Neal...
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Love Kubota stuff. Had a mx5200hst for a few years. Fantastic stuff. The Kubotas are all over priced. The 42” with the Kawasaki is 3900. For the same money I can get a bad boy, gravely, hustler, with the same Kawasaki or the next hp up plus a 54” deck. The Kubota 42” should be 3200 to be competitive
the zero turn market is way, way over crowded. You also need to check things like seat quality, transmission, tire sizes, frame material, deck spindles, etc. Add to that the financing package, ZTR companies pass most financing costs along to the dealer and buyer, Kubota has those costs already baked into the price of the mower. We sell 6-7 lines, its really hard to do an apples-apples comparison.
@@MessicksEquip Then why don't you do an apples-to-apples comparison for us? :-)
Y'all are the pros and have a lot of visibility into different models.
I take a bad boy any day over a Kubota.
@@timtommy9984 I’ll take a craftsman T110 over a bad boy any day
Just bought a z231kh-48 yesterday beautiful machine
That's exactly what I got. Are you happy with it? I get mine delivered tomorrow.
How much 💰
Had a ZD326 for a few years. Generally a good machine but would overheat and needed a lot of water top ups. The radiator screen would constantly get clogged with grass dust. Question have there been any improvements in their designs over past 10 years in keeping the radiator free of dust? eg. Wider fins? better screens? Finless radiators?
Yea, the newer models have more surface area on the screen.
Great video Neil! I'm torn between the ZD-1211 and the Z-781i ... believe it or not its the seat ... when is Kubota going to put that awesome 781EFI seat on the ZD-1211?
Not sure, but there is a better seat on the ZD1511 that can be made to fit on the ZD1211.
I really think the ZG227 and that whole series is way underrated, I would have like you to tell folks how the ZG series has a Kubota air cooled V-twin engine. I have had mine for 10 years now and have NEVER had one mechanical issues and I mow 3 acres. "Back in the day" it was the lowest priced Kubota zero turn at $10K! I wanted a diesel in the worst way but now realize I never did need it. My 27 hp Kubota cannot be "bogged down" with a 54" deck.
Agree with them being underrated. Always a tough sell for us, they're a little pricey.
@@MessicksEquip Yup, you are right!
We have an older ZD28 with a 72” deck, that thing is an absolute ANIMAL. We had a Hustler zero turn with a diesel engine and a 60” deck, it was a good mower but nothing compared to the ZD28.
Yea, people underestimate how diesel torque feels when mowing. Too much focus on horsepower.
I would love to buy a ZD. My L2501 is just about paid off. Spec that one for road maintenance and snow removal. Currently using a too small zero turn on more acres than it was intended for. I know my refuel point in the yard.
it doesn't matter which model, i have to say the best mowers all round!!
The 726x, having the dial indicator for deck height adjustment. Does this typically become an issue with mowing uneven or rougher lawns? Example, the deck being pushed up while mowing and the height adjustment slipping to a lower height?
I mow rough pasture fast and have never had an issue. I mow a bit under launch speed.
I was looking at some of the Kubota zero turns. Just curious, why aren't higher HP options available? I know diesels are restricted by emissions but the Z1511 has ~30HP which is probably fine. The ZG300 looks like a well built, heavy duty machine but the 26HP seems like it will be a little underpowered. If I was Kubota and I built these HD machines, I'd want to advertise them as the heaviest duty and most powerful.
No one answered you, which I always find weird from a dealer who posts the video. My guess to your question is, diesel has double to triple the torque of gas. All the motor is doing is running hydraulic pumps basically. On something that goes 9 MPH, my guess is torque is more important than HP.
@@grantparnes Well said.
Horsepower is bragging rights. I look at the torque and at what rpm it’s coming in at.
Me too!!! They need 72 and 84 inch models
I thought that was Allen Harper 😂
When they come out with one that has a cab and AC, sign me up!
Deck forward ....all yours
I currently own a ZD1211 , which has been great . Does the ZD1511 have a good reputation ? ( I have heard mixed reviews )
I'd also give mixed reviews. We have several out that have been trouble free, there has also been one that I know thats had emissions problems.
My uncle has a large farm and used the ZD1511 series and is switching because of the constant emissions equipment problems
Would you recommend a ZD model for someone with hills to mow? I’m assuming the extra torque would be helpful.
Yes
Absolutely. I cut hills in cemeteries and it hauls my arse up and down with no problem. If you have mud though, be careful, you will get stuck.
My zd326 will out do my 36inch walk behind mower on hills sideways. If you have extremely steep hills you will cut ruts over time and a 54/60inch walk behind or stiner/ventrac mower would be better. If you are using a garden tractor now, a large zero turn would be an upgrade and the cub cadets with a steering wheel would another upgrade from a zero turn.
Zero turns handle slopes well... Unless the ground is wet. Remember with Zt's, no traction, no steering. Can get you in trouble if not carefull.
@@rocknral that is true. Many mowers have ended up in a lake cause they could not stop due to wet ground. One of my ztrs has fluid in the tires and that does help with the weight transfer
What series of kubota would compare to exmark lazer e series? Shopping for new zero turn wanting to compare apples to apples? Cant get a straight from anybody. Thanks
You made one error regarding the 200 series saying from 42” to 52” all run the same chassis.
Incorrect.
Both Z231 models that run the 48” and 52” decks are the same larger chassis.
But the 42” is a completely different mower, is smaller, lighter, more plastic parts, cheaper hydrostatics and is a stand-alone smaller and cheaper mower. It has an unsprung cheaper little seat, smaller fuel tank, smaller drive wheels, no headlights, no tow hitch and more.
I compared the z231KW 42” and Z231BR 48”(Briggs and Stratton motor) and Z231KH 48” (Kohler motor) side by side and the 42” is a toy compared to both 48” models.
I’m really surprised that you said they were all on the same chassis and made out as if they were the same, when the 42” is a completely different mower.
enjoy your videos...how about general price ranges for them?
Videos are on here for years, prices change
Kubota.com has prices if you build one on the web. 200 series is about 6k, 400 is in the 7-8k range, 700 is 9-11k 1000 series 12-13k 1200 is 15-17k 1500 is 21k. I should be in the ballpark. That is MSRP and dealers usually run 10% cheaper than MSRP and there might be manufactures incentives.
just build them on sight or check out nearest dealer they are usually pretty helpful
Nice looking New Holland in the back round. Put a mower deck under that and now your talking LOL.
Neil @Messicki, yall need to get Mike with outdoors with the Morgan in a Kubota Z400 or big his fleet look odd with the utter guy mowers.
You include the price of equipment in your videos.
hi, great info. always watch your vids are enjoy. here in Australia we don't get any reviews etc. I'm looking to purchase a z422 54 inch . I have a 5 acre property. is this the right machine? cheers Vince. appreciate some feedback on this
For 5 acres, I'd want larger. All depends how much time your willing to take.
@@MessicksEquip thanks for answering my question. the other issue here in Oz is we only get a 54 inch in the 422 . I may have to go for another brand.
What material is the seat made of on the z 231 series mowers?
Vinyl
The welds at 9:22 are pitiful. Yikes. Is that in all the models? The proprietary diesel engine and transmission seem to be robust. That turn crank height adjustment is unique. Kubota makes a good diesel. I’d definitely want the machine for its diesel drivetrain. I didn’t know much about Kubota. Good machine and good review. 👍
Where does a zd331 with a 72 inch deck fall in this range of new models?
That is an older model that they haven't made in a few years. The ZD1511 is the closest replacement of it.
I run a zd28 and I have zero complaints
I currently have the z421 and I’m mowing about 12-15 decent large yards. Do you think it would be smart to upgrade to the 726? Or do you think the z421 can handle what I’m doing over time?
its not a commercial mower, you will wear it out eventually. If its working for you though I don't see why I'd change it.
Hey there Trey, I am shopping around and saw the 48" Z421 with suspension seat. I have 3.5 acres (probably 2 that is mowable) with some rough bumpy slopes but no big hills. I'd only be mowing my lawn, but I wanted something durable. If you see this, could you let me know what you think? The hydros are 3600s and engine is the Kawasaki 22hp. I could get a Sparta 60" rt pro for similar price and 27hp briggs, but I'm skeptical based on their longterm reviews.
@@anewsteb Hey man. Yeah I think it would be a great mower for you. I’ve been using it for three years. It’s now my back up on my trailer but it still gets used weekly. I’ve had no major issues but a few little (annoying) issues over the past year. I am not a fan of the deck adjustment knob,the Pin is a much better option. Also One of the sensors for the controls broke and wouldn’t allow the mower to start But they were all covered by warranty. All in all It’s a solid mower. But For you I would also consider a scag patriot. They have some features I wish my kubota had. And they are comparable in price.
@@tmills631 thanks! I have looked at the Scag Patriot online but haven't found any dealers yet around my area.
@@anewsteb that definitely makes it tough. dealer support for me is probably the most important thing when buying a mower. So whatever dealers you have around you I would check out what they have and pick what comfort and features you like best. All mowers now are great some just have different comfort features.
I have a BX2380 with mid mower deck, can I get a better cut with let’s say a entry level Z200 zero turn? My BX2380 seems to floating the lawn.
entry level, no. The BX cuts more like a $6-8,000 zero turn.
I am currently looking at a new Z251 that is a leftover model from last year. It has the 54in deck and the Briggs and Stratton motor. My local dealer offered it to me for $5699 today. My only concern is I have read a few bad reviews on the Briggs and Stratton engines, should I spend the extra to get a newer model with the Kawasaki engine? I mow about 2 acres
Personally, I wouldn't. The difference between the two is not what it was a decade ago.
@@MessicksEquip thanks for the reply!
How does the 12 and 15 series compare to a lazer z x?
The best analogy is a tank versus a Ferrari.
👍👍
Is the Kubota ZG327 still being made? I bought one from my dealer two years ago and wasn't sure if it's still being produced. I love that mower
It is not.
Should’ve done the price for each one
Hi neil
I think the z781i 60” 29.5 hp Kawasaki is kubotas best zero turn. Just about it bought it and wish I had in some ways but went scag last minute.
Me: so whats the problem just get the top of the line.
The little me on my shoulder: Dude it's showing around $26,000 for the zd1500 on the CDN web site.
Me: ughhhhh, lets have a look at the Z200 again.
Is the z726x great for 10 acres?
If you want gas, yes. For that much mowing I'd want a ZD1211
@@MessicksEquip how about the z781? Zd1211 might be out of my price range
What engine do you prefer for residential < 2 acres.
honestly, its harder and harder any more to really recommend one gas engine above another.
Kawasaki is the best gas engine
I'd tend to agree with that. The gap has narrowed from what it was years ago.
nfavor I want a zero turn so bad. My pops has a Ferris and absolutely loves the suspension.
Messick's my pops has a Ferris and uncle has John Deere. Pops loves his Ferris suspension. I want a zero turn mower so bad. Kubota mower looking more attractive for sure.
What is the price comparison between petrol (gas) and diesel in the USA in the UK petrol is way cheaper than diesel it’s taxed more due to diesel emissions
Same here, by 20-30%. We can buy off road diesel with no tax
Messick's we can here as well it has red dye in it. I work for the local government authority cutting grass all our machines have to run the road diesel as we as a company do more than six miles a day on the road I use a new Holland T5.85 with a hydraulic 7 gang unit behind that costs about £1500 ($1850) a month to run petrol machines are not very popular here I’m not sure why that is years ago I used to work on a golf course it was all petrol machines now you don’t find any unless there old I heard there was talk of electric machines coming to the uk market is that the same in USA
So which one replaced the ZD326H?
1211
Have to wonder if any of these Kubota zero turn mowers have the option of lights for late hour mowing or tail lights so others
can see you on a large piece of property. Kubota has a fine reputation, and one wonders how durable and reliable each range/model
zero turn mower really is.
you can add work lights to the ROPS of any mower.
I added an LED bar to the front of mine.
I guess since my post was deleted I won’t count on getting an answer to my question here.
Whats that?
Messick's I wanted to know since Kawasaki and Kohler both make engines in their home countries and China how can I be assured of where my engine was built? I stated that in order to get the quality transmission and a durable engine the only choice was the ztd. Is that a correct assumption?
I did not delete anything that looked like that.
Honestly, I have no idea what those brands have been doing for sourcing. I'd absolutely agree though that the quality and durability of a ZD is superb, it's also 2x the price of a mower like a Z400 though too.
@@John-lc1uq To be honest you will have an engine that will run 50 hrs and grenade or it will last 800 hrs on the low end or north of 1500 depending on maintenance. I am on a landscape forum and if there are issues with engines you hear about them fast. There really hasn't been any major issues that I have heard of in the last 10 years. If you are worried, take the engine you are thinking of buying and throw that engine model number in google and see if what you find. If you find a never ending trail of issues then you might want to stay away.
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I want to promote some of your products on my lawn and garden website.
Dancing feet we see.
Stop prancing around…..
Useless advice.