These are the 10 Worst Transit Systems...I have encountered
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2021
- A controversial video for sure but one thing is certain: we all love transit no matter what, we just want it better.
Worst can be defined as old infrastructure, lack of a mode of transit, poorly planned transit policies, a large city with no rail infrastructure...
What are some of the worst transit systems you have encountered? What would you define as "worst".
The age old question: is America really that bad at public transit (or other places like Australia/Canada are just as bad...)?
The good news is that most of these issues laid out in the 10 cities are being addressed and thus have a "good news is" following the reason on why the system is the worst.
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Please comment if you have opinions or facts to share about the video or transit in general! Its a learning process for all of us and I enjoy being educated on what in the end we all love: transportation - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Remember though: the worst transit system is no transit system.
Are you saying all transit is still good in their own ways?
@@shanewalters2565 they all have at least some value.
@@Frahamen My point exactly, lol
Like in South Africa
It depends, in countries where you pay a lot of taxes, the least you would expect is decent public transport. In Brazil we pay various taxes, and our transportation system, with the exception of the cities of São Paulo and Curitiba, is precarious.
I can actually forgive cities for using old buses, trains, trams because many places might not have enough funds available to them, granted those systems are neatly maintained.
Yeah! Systems with not so much money can't buy new equipment. It would be a waste and they are trying to do what they can.
Old transport feels better for me
Well in the capital of Sweden we still drive our 50 year old metro wagons. I mean, they work, so why not use them 🤷♂️😅
@@martinherikson6643 In my city we have old Tatra T3 trams, they're still riding but they are not in best condition
Yeah you can forgive NYC for using old cars and them derailing on a daily basis
Arlington Texas: No transit whatsoever for a city of 500K
You have to have a transit system to be on the Worst Transit System list 😂
maybe demand one? start some discussions about it.
@@bigman10239 It would definitely take more than "some discussions".
same thing with hobart, australiia. they have pretty much nothing, except for some buses and ferry services which go nowhere
Wtf aren't they literally right between Dallas and Fort Worth why don't those cities provide services to them. Does America not have metropolitan wide or state wide transit agencies?
I personally like older trains and buses if they’re maintained properly
Same
So true
very true
Like New Orleans Street cars!
Same here
It's a shame to describe transit systems as bad only if they have old rolling stock.
Yes. Although none were bad because of the old models but for other reasons. Old usually means neglected in these systems except that one metro line that had 80s trains bad was not serving the parts of the city it needed.
Old vehicles can be bad for several reasons, including
- Emissions and noise
- Energy efficiency
- Accessibility for the elderly and differently abled
- Uncomfortable for riders
- High maintenance costs and spare parts shortages
- Can have a negative influence on the image people have of a city
@@Virre737 and safety
But having old stock increases delays, reduces comfort and limits Passenger flow headway and ATO
Right.
"Ugly lightrail cars" is a reason for somewhere being in the list of worst transit systems? 😂
Like with everything else...it's not how it works or if it works at all. It's only about how it looks. For the socialists.
@@anglerfish8278 What the f*ck brung up socialism
it’s not even the ugliest in North America!
yeah, if this looks stupid, but works - then it is not stupid, you should keep it in mind
@@bostonrailfan2427 True!
Agree about Wellington. What were they thinking? Perhaps something like: Umm, there is a climate crisis and our streets are polluted. I know what - lets replace our quiet, non polluting, smooth running trolleybuses, which run on local renewable energy, with .....diesel buses! What a bunch of...
I would have put it at #1 for just that reason. Its just unimaginable that in this day in age a city would get rid of environmentally friendly transit like that.
Don't understand why a town as big as Wellington has no tramway or lightrail system.
You are dead right. New Zealand is always going on about how clean and green they are and this is allowed to happen. The people that run Wellington have their heads in an unusual place which is quite hard to achieve. I live in New Zealand.
It was privatised in 1992 and run into the ground. Too expensive and no expansion. It was almost saved and put back into public ownership when the greens and labour got back into power in 2017, but the plans were already in execution by the previous right wing governments. It was literally a hair away from being saved and upgraded.
@@asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791 A light rail network should be peanuts for a city that wealthy though.
I would argue Perth’s public transport is relatively good … though I think it’s probably improved since you visited. The rail network has been expanded; the trains are being upgraded; and frequency is quite good. They’re also building a new line to connect to the airport.
I've never been to Perth but having lived in both AUS and NZ I have always found Australia to have pretty good transport even in small towns.
Columbus having no rail service is a joke. There should be a rail link to Cincinnati making more use out of the stations. Even if not Amtrak then a state network like MBTA or New Jersey Transit.
This person is an idiot. Except cambodia, He/she rated based on rail n Trolley.
In this case, Taipei before 1990 n Vancover has limit rail. That mean Taipei transit was bad before 1990. Vancouver has terrible transit.
I haven been both cities. I know its wrong
I like the free buses in the city centre.
Yea in my personal experience its better than almost any city in the US for example. Hard to organize a truly great transit network on a poor foundation (hyper suburban sprawl). The commuter rail is genuinely pretty extensive and the through city service is very impressive. It's also pretty fast and popular. And the buses have pretty frequent service to train stations and along select routes. You can do a lot of great stuff with buses really, if you use them to their full potential. So I dont think a lack of light rail is neccesarily a bad thing. Although I do think that light rail would be good for the inner part of the city. My main complaint would be that bus service between suburbs is either very infrequent or basically nonexistent. It's often faster to take a detour to the train station, catch the train and take another bus to ur destination rather than go straight. Perth definitely hasnt exhausted the possibilities of truly frequent bus service.
Really makes you realise that even the worst mass transit/ public transport network in Europe is way better than the vast majority of systems around the world.
Seriously?
You only shame us North Americans. Thanks for your ugly SIEMENS!
Absolutely. When I see this I do realise that we are lucky to have decent public transport in most parts of Europe. I did not know that in wealthy parts of the world (America, Ne Sealand, to name just two) they have such low level public transport in reasonable large cities. No I don't say "bad" because even when the level is not to the standards I am used to in the Netherlands it can be pretty good never the less. It is just different: may be less frequent and/or less modern. But when it works it's o.k.
I definitely confirm.
Laugh in Rejkjavik
Yangon's circle line: fun for tourists, not so fun for commuters.
Been there, takes forever to get around the city
Yangon’s transit system actually sucks because the Yangon metropolitan area has 7 million people and it’s only really connected by buses, the circle line is basically just a moving market/glorified tourist attraction at this point /:
@@lhmeow122 Honestly Yangon's commuter rail network is pretty huge. I think a financial district like Strand Road deserve to be covered by a underground multi-purpose (I mean ite could be use for intercity service) rail from Pann Hlaing and built shortcut from Strand Road to Eastern part of Yangon like Thaketa area and from Thaketa to Myittar Nyunt. It would be great too to have connection from Toe Kyaung Ka Lay to Parami and Dagon University-Airport-Gyo Gone/Da Nyin Gone (for regional service to the Airport, prolly legit for commuter rail service too).
@@justshitposting1305 with rising sea levels and the fact that downtown Yangon is actually made up of reclaimed land from the early colonial era…anything underground around there would just get flooded as soon as the monsoon rain comes. Subway from Yangon central to the airport could work though, and would be more convenient if it would connect the cbd with shwedagon/kandawgyi, the embassies, the dense kabaraye-yankin-Bahan region, and the okkalapar and north dagon suburbs, with connections at Parami… mainly just going through areas away from the rivers where it would be prone to flooding. Parami could very well be a transit hub as the proposed elevated light rail system is said to run from west to east along Parami road connecting the two sides of the circle line. I think for the strand and Chinatown area of downtown there could be a metro tram network, like they have in Manchester/Melbourne/Amsterdam..etc where majors road in the town center is restricted to cars for a bigger emphasis on overground transit and pedestrian infrastructure… would be a cheap option as well and it could start from Thaketa and do a loop around downtown, then through Ahlone, Kyeemyadaing, Kamaryut, Hlaing and all the way to Hlaing Thar Yar on partially elevated tracks.
Definetly, as a peruvian I must say Lima because I deal with it every day. The city has a population of around 10 M and has no trams, no subway but a single electric train line, which is of course allways full. It has a dense network of buses but there are so many private transport companies without any regulation. Lima used to have a tram service but they decided to shut it down instead of expand it. That is way evereyone uses cars, generating one of the worst traffic in the world. You can't really use a bike because the mad driving culture we have.
just because a transit systems rolling stock is old doesn't mean that its bad. let alone its visual appeal being a reason.
Exactly.
It's childish to think that old rolling stocks aren't efficient.
It's end-to-end connectivity and reach that matters the most.
Old rolling stock tends to breakdown more often causing delays and disruptions of service, provide a far less comfortable ride, slow, not adapted, has lower capacity, takes longer time to embark/disembark (thus stays longer on each station) and more. You can prolong the life of old rolling stock if you refurbish them but that wasn't the case on the ones in the video. You can say that it is better than nothing but it does make the sistem worst.
@@AL5520 our old rolling stock here in vancouver arguably provide a more comfy ride we have older low floor buses from 2000-2001 [new flyer d40lf] with engines replaced sometime in 2006 or 7 and we have 2000-2001 and 2008 orion 5 high floor buses for suburban routes and both have more comfy seats than newer buses
The purpose is transport not style.
@Oofer Mate i'm talking bus rolling stock but our old trains are pretty pog too
As an American I figured #1 would be somewhere over here… we’re so car oriented that mass transit seems like a foreign concept or something only for big cities like New York.
It's not much better here on Long Island overpriced breakdowns half the time and cars that stink of piss
"Ugly and old trains"
I dare you to say that to Japan as they still operates train dated back in 60s till this day without hitch!
old japanese trains have a really unique look that I love
Or the Swiss 60s 70s Re 4/4
Because US rolling stock is so modern and not box like 😝
@@nixcails yeah right. Trains in europe and east asia look so much more modern then american trains. Even north korean trains look better.
@@ClearsightAltAccount Why compare how trains look in other countries, just let them be
As someone from Colombo, Sri Lanka, I agree our public transport systems needs a massive makeover, but the age of our buses and trains are the last of my concerns. Our biggest issues with our buses and trains is safety. They tend to be quite unsafe to use for commuters, and unsafe for other motorists and pedestrians on the roads.
you do realize that practically all of the cities doesn't have enough money to maintain a healthy network of public transport...
It included a bunch of cities in the US, canada, australia and new zealand, some of the richest countries in the world.
@@vectoor91 riches countries yes, but on average US spends less money on public transport than some of Russia do
@@arthurvonhill7361 ah! The benefits of a capitalist system!
You sound like an agent of some shit government
@@vectoor91 Canada maintains really well.
2:46 "Old trains in service" as a train built within the last 11 years passes by
From the comments it's obvious that there are many more cities which would have made it to the list. A crowded city without a transit system is a nightmare because not only is it difficult to travel but the compensating vehicular traffic creates its own snarls and blockages. The problem mainly is budgetary while in a few cases it is planning.
I had no idea Mendoza killed all the trolleybus routes except for Parque. This is the saddest news I've heard all day. Hopefully they actually expand the light rail because I remember it went nowhere and nobody rode it
Mendoza has an EV line going from Godoy Cruz to Las Heras through San Martin and the new bus network is pretty good actually, he has never been to most Argentinian city to actually criticize Mendoza 😂😂😂
The original Mendoza light rail line was built along a disused main line railway. Second hand Duewag trams from San Diego wet purchased. Not a bad idea for system built on a tight budget.
There’s no rail transit in San Antonio and it’s larger in population (2nd largest in Texas) than Columbus.
It gets funnier as it progresses, like the ugly light rail one in Baltimore
If Perths system is bad, I dread to see Adelaide's score
Maybe the video poster should read this: www.metronet.wa.gov.au/
Although Perth doesn't have a light rail system or subways yet, the trains (effectively a ground level metro system) provide a very good service to outlying suburbs, and buses effectively connect the areas in between stations. It is one of the best managed transit systems in Australia.
Especially since Perth is considered to have Australia's best...
@@Coolsomeone234 transperth may not get you all the way to your destination, but whatever part of the network you do utilise, it's great
All big five capitals in AU are good at public transport, even Canberra and Hobart you can get 10 min frequencies on the main corridors. In Syd and Mel, there are express, limited stops trains and all stops, you can transport yourself to 50 kms away in just one hour from CBD paying the metropolitan fare. I would not complain about Aussie public transport too much, after visiting some big cities in Asia, not to mention similar North American cities.
Another thing is Buses in smaller cities. If you have visited New Zealand, you know what I mean. In AU, towns over 20,000 population could set up a 30min frequency bus system on corridor plus 1 hour frequency commuter routes, you can check Burnie, Devonport, La Trobe Valley towns in Vic, all the towns along the Qld coast. In NZ, you need to get 50,000 cities to achieve hourly buses such as Invercargill, even not good as Burnie(23,000).
9:26 ok, that’s not a valid reason. I don’t even live in Baltimore, but just because you don’t like the look of their railcars doesn’t mean it’s a bad system. Aesthetics are subjective.
I lived there for 13 years. The subway is off limits due to serious crime and every station is overrun with rats.
@@joestewart8914 I’m talking about the light rail, not the subway
@@OliversElevators Yeah, the light rail is also infested with crime but not as bad as the subway. In fact, the light rail is so bad that one of the towns it goes through (Ruxton) refused to allow the light rail system to have a stop there.
@@joestewart8914 The system itself isn't overrun with crime, but the areas the subway serves are. That's not something transit systems can change. The light rail line serves Hunt Valley, BWI Airport and Cromwell. I wouldn't describe those areas as crime-ridden, although other areas the line runs through are rough. Again, it's not the system itself that's dangerous.
To me those cars looked fine. Beauty is in the eyes of beholder.
It’s odd that Wellington would give up their trolley bus system. The buses shown looked rather new/modern. Why would you dismantle a functioning, environmentally friendly system and replace it with dirty diesel? What is behind this change?
There was strong opposition...but all to no avail....but you can't beat the coolest little capital in the world.♦️
Having ridden rail transit in 134 cities including 86 subways, I can say that my home town Boston's Green Line is just awful. Trains routinely make more stops between stations than at them. "Low floor" cars that require the operator to leave the cab to turn a key for a wheelchair ramp. Signals that stop a train when there's nothing in front of it & the next one is green & single level junctions that hold up trains in both directions. If I absolutely have to be somewhere at a specific time, add at least 20 minutes just in case. The excuse: "it's the oldest subway line in America & if ya don't like it, take a cab!
Route 57 is worse than the "A" branch. "E" branch was killed off by a bicycle activist.
A lot of the stop start issues is block chain signaling. An old system of signaling that has to leave a signal gap between blocks. Issue is those blocks can be miles long and because they signal system doesn’t know where the train is, it needs to leave a empty block in the middle for safety. The stop start nature is because there are so many trains at a time, communications based control is the answer to this issue. The wheel chair access is a major issue with the trains themselves, because a ramp is required in certain areas, and because of safety issues it needs to be operated by the driver, it slows down time. The main issue with the green line is the antiquated signaling and the fact it’s at capacity. The nyc subway has the same issue. As a guy who lives close to Boston, I actually believe the orange line is actually worse right now than the green line, in the core section between north station, to Copley square and back bay. Many times the green line is actually faster. Because the orange lines new trains aren’t in service and the trains that are still working are shit. Half the trains don’t work and because of that, every orange line train is like 10 to 15 min apart. Red line, no problem, blue line, not really a problem either, but good news, the t actually has money now and not only is ordering a bunch of new trains, but actually fixing some of the issues I mentioned.
@@interstellarphred the reason why the a branch was axed in the first place was because the branch had no real “stations” a physical platform, just the street. And since the bus can actually go to the sidewalk it’s ironically safer. But I think if you fix that problem, you will be fine, then they can bring the a branch back.
I grew up in Boston and returned there after college in the mid-80s until 1999. I found out the Beacon Street and Commonwealth Avenue inclines out of the tunnel used to be on wooden trestle meaning they originally intended to extend the subway further!
Baltimore has older light rail cars also. Once when I was riding we had a train that only had one operational door.
Their subway line is as you said but for me havibg had a fear of tunnels it was a perfect way to help me overcome the fear. Small line, only partially underground, but it is poorly connected to the system.
Great video!!!
I have been on 45 systems now. On my list:
Norfolk, Va (Hampton Roads Transit):
Pro: the paddlewheel ferry and the MAX (Metro Area Express) express bus system.
Decent variety of vehicles.
Otherwise the rest are all cons.
Buses poorly maintained, low driver wages, General disdain from the management toward drivers and passengers, population of around 1.5 million regionally and routes are mostly at 30 or 60 minute intervals, large sections of the region lack service, poorly planned light rail (thanks Virginia Beach), antiquated and extremely long routes plague the system. Complicated transfer system.
It takes 80 minutes one way by bus to travel 8 miles here, 43 minutes by standard 21 speed bicycle and 21 minutes by car. Service is INEFFICIENT and INCREDIBLY UNRELIABLE.
WMATA: it starts with the management who tend to be very corrupt. Then theres maintenance issues, which often is not their fault but sometimes their priorities are messed up, lengthy delays in getting projects completed.
However the bus system and the connectivity with the neighboring systems is pretty top notch.
Not having a set up for express subway service (Boston has that problem also)
The fare system is too complicated and rather expensive.
You should also remember that some of these cities don't have that many budget to build a fancy transit system
Come to Philadelphia. Sure we got two subway lines, a regional rail network and a lot of busses; but it all is filthy, stations are crumbling and you run a very real risk of getting shot, jumped or mugged. Ride it for a week and it is pretty much a guarantee you'll see someone defecating somewhere, maybe even inside a train car! Ah yes, feces on the seat, the true Philly experience!
That is exactly what I thought when I entered one of Philadelphia‘s subway stations for the first time.
Filthy Philly. People are the cause.
Timosha says SEPTA is the best. Tbh SEPTA is the WORST and lamest. It is so dirty
This sounds similar like the NYC subway, Crime has insanely increased, some of their stations are crumbling apart, what's worse is that they still use 60 year old signals. I say this as a NYC subway user.
@@nyctransitrailfan an Aussie CZcamsr did a series of videos of it a couple of years ago and I was struck at how well kept the trains looked. What a shame.
In Great Britain the London transit system is excellent and surprisingly cheap. By contrast almost all other British cities are awful. and EXPENSIVE. The root problem is that the legal regime for BUSES outside London is unsatisfactory,-and has been so since 1986! A related problem is that very few British cities have transit systems running on rails. Leeds is the largest city in Europe which has neither a Metro or a light rail system. And where rail based systems do exist (as in Nottingham where i live) the rail services are NOT INTEGRATED with buses.
Spot on there.
Spot on! I live in Sheffield where we have an effective tram system and lived in Newcastle where they have a very good Metro but neither are big enough to be truly world class!
I wouldnt call London's public transport cheap (as a foreigner with the high pound)....
@@garrywallace1007 I take your point when you compare London to (say) Paris or Vienna. But compared to other British cities, London public transport is cheap.
As a Loiner that statistic hurts, but it is true and disgraceful.
We’ve had so many schemes over the years promised and Axed, Labour and Tory
As much as I can agree that Perth doesn't have the best transit system, the rail system is actually really good and makes up for a lot of the losses. Yes it doesn't serve much of the city but Perth's CBD isn't very big. Of all the cities you've been to it may very well be number 10 on the list but of all the cities in the world it actually does do a lot of things right.
You should check out Victoria BC, Canada. We ONLY have buses as our public transit, nothing else. We used to have trains but they stopped serving in 2011
Light Rail trains from the 80's and 90's are not that rare. Even Dusseldorf, Germany still has a lot of those in service. However, they replaced the interior and the seats are now even more uncomfortable than the ones they had before.
Oh my god, one time I went to Newcastle from Central in Sydney by train, and the train was delayed for five hours at Hawkesbury River because a freight train broke down. I never want to be reminded of that again.
Yes the now privately run goods trains, especially those hideous second hand imported Danish locomotives.
yeah hopefully the inland rail project should prevent shit like that from happening
For your kind information, all the trains you have portrayed in this video in Colombo part are express and intercity trains. We have suburban railway system also, which services to Colombo and suburbs as long as 100km from Colombo. Moreover, you might say that trains are old, because you don't know that Sri Lanka has recently imported state-of-art trains from India and China. Also old trains are being refurbished. When buses are concerned, in Colombo, i think there is no place without access to buses. People in Colombo travel in buses not because they have to, but because they love to. If you don't believe me, pls visit colombo and try travelling in one of our buses. (That does not mean i discourage rapid transit ) Hereafter, before commenting public transit system in Colombo, pls reconsider it!
You sound like am American defending the US LOL
@@qjtvaddict Yes You are correct! As a Sri Lankan, it is my duty to defend my country!😌😌
@@qjtvaddict You sound like some guy who wants to catch up with the kids
I think it would be good for Colombo to make some shortcut like Kollupitiya-Cotta Road, Welawatte-Maradana-Cotta Road, Wanawasalla-Pangiriwatta, Baseline Road-Dematagoda-Ja Ela-Airport-Veyangoda, Maradana-Kosgama and upgrade the system to be like Berlin S-Bahn or London Overground. The shortcut will be improve so much not just for commuter train but for all the train traffic system in Greater Colombo.
As a Sri Lankan, I must say I use our crappy public transportation because I have to, not because I love it.
Our transportation is very old class. We still use Victorian stations without any upgrades.
Perth had a pretty bad public transport network 30 years ago, but it has come a long way since. It has a well organised, integrated and reliable bus and train network for a low density city of its size.
I really don’t understand how Baltimore made it to this list ,especially with one of the reasons being the light rail was ugly colored ✨
I guess you don't live in Baltimore?... Our light rail system has been beneficial sinxe its inception but our entire system network is crap. Literally an entire northeast section has no rail connections. Hell, some dense area don't even have bus lines.
@@MJofLakelandX I don’t live in Baltimore I live an hour from it and if he said that it would have been ok but no he choose to call the color ugly which makes no sense
Fun fact: Mendoza, Argentina's red light rail vehicles are retired generations of Metropolitan Transit System (MTS) San Diego, California's "trolley" light rail system. I could be wrong, but I believe the next generation after the ones in this video which are now at retirement age also are heading to Argentina.
Tampa Bay Florida.. nearly 3 million people with 3 international airports . No rail ... busses are limited ... and forced to drive everywhere . Shameful .
Come to Kolkata, India to have a glimpse of the nightmarish transport system. It's probably the worst in the world with least comfort and convenience coupled with bone rattling journey. The city administrators are hell-bent in doing away of trams. Also the re-introduction of once Iconic double-decker buses is far away from realisation. God save this city.
I'd also add Plovdiv, Bulgaria, as a bad example: the trolleybus system was abondoned around 2012, ever since overhead wires are still there but there is lack of maintenance and shortly is getting worse. There are 3 private bus companies around and their service is pretty bad - small buses, they don't care too much about schedules, also after 8 pm there are almost no buses in service. There was a attempt to introduce a ring commuter train in 1999 but because of small number of stops wasn't really used. Good news though - we are expecting new trains to be bought and few commuter train lines to be introduced. They'll need better connections with other bus lines in order to be useful
That is sad that Wellington stopped their trolleybuses. What could be more environmentally friendly that trolleybuses ?
I live in a realy modern City in Germany, with almost the most modern Transit System. But the most i wish we have the good old Tatras and Ikarus' from the 80s/90s (Time where i was a kid). Love these old Trains, Trams and Busses...🤫😉😉🙂
We still have those in Budapest 😉
San Diego donated their old light-rail cars to Mendoza. Pretty cool to see them over there
And they were originally made in Germany.
Oh, c'mon! 18 hours?? But I'm bored now!
yeah
Also the suburban rail system in Perth is actually the most reliable in Australia while Melbourne’s metropolitan train network is massive but quite unreliable in comparison! Also a significant majority of old busses running in third world nations are actually second hand busses that were originally used in first world nations when they were first built but they were then sold off at very low prices when they were retired from service by their original owners! For example a lot of busses that were retired in Australia and New Zealand ended up getting sent off to Fiji to continue running services in Fiji! :)
Why does Perth always try to compare itself with Melbourne - it's OVER twice the population (and has a rather extensive tram network as welll)?
@@michaelsinclair8018
Actually Melbourne’s tram network is currently the world’s largest tram network! :)
Baltimore and Cleveland better make their scheduled stop on this list. *They've earned it!*
Yep
What's so bad about Baltimore and Cleveland may I ask? It's something to do with us ignorant American people with cars I bet
@@shanewalters2565 I'm from the US. If you've seen them (especially in comparison to other systems) you'd know.
I mean in comparison to other cities in the US like oklahoma, Las vegas, Milwaukee....Cleveland at least has something despite being pretty ugly, and baltimore also has
@@Neillan I understand that, I've seen better transit systems here in our country tbh, Seattle, Boston and DC are in the top 3 rn
i'm surprised that i haven't seen any comment from peruvians complaining about the terrible and totally disorganized public transport that exists in Lima
When I am on holiday and i see the same generic new trains, busses and trams I am a bit sad, because then it is the same experience as so many other cities.
It is like replacing classical architecture or traditional costumes with fashion.
I also miss the old busses from the 70's here in Odense.
Lima Transit System: am I a joke to you?
If you've never been in Lima, you'll see the awful transport system since you leave the airport.
Fort Lauderdale as well. Bad bus and Train service as well as no monorails to connect buildings at the airport and the rental car area. You would know what I am talking about if you traveled there.
I'm not surprised to see Phnom Penh in this list. Even with 17 lines instead of 3, there's such a trafic that buses can hardly drive. And they can't keep any schedule. 🙄
Is Phnom Penh not planning to build a Manila style LRT system built by Chinese companies?
The curse of motorbike over-affordability.
@@Tonydjjokerit Perhaps it's way too expensive for them. And even if they manage get someone to build them one, a solid bus network acting as feeder and revamp on pedestrian facilities are needed to compete with motorbike over-affordability, which is a herculean task for a country in their current state of development.
I would also expect that they have a vast network of "unofficial" private (mini)bus lines, like many bigger cities in poorer countries. But the chaotic nature of it usually leaves it too confusing for tourists.
If a system is particularly dirty .. vehicles and stations .. it would make it to my list .
Don’t you dare bring up my NYC subway with our cute rats
Paris has a very extensive Metro-Subway, but it is very dirty.
@@peskypigeonx Certainly the NYC subway also has some out dated subway stations, and an old 50 year old signaling system. But they are good at maintaining their rolling stock.
I've encountered some really bad ones.
Orlando, Florida is probably the worst I've encountered - especially since it is very tourist-oriented.
The best I've ever experienced? I'd say the top 3 I've experienced are Tokyo, Stockholm, and Berlin. Osaka was also good.
Much of America is really bad at transit. When I lived in Hartford, I had to get a driver's license to have any kind of social life because most of the system shut down around 7 pm. Hartford does have a busway now, so I'd guess things are somewhat better.
For a lot of routes in Pittsburgh, you have to carry a schedule because many routes run on strange headways like 35 or 70 minutes so they're difficult to memorize.
But I've seen cities in the US that are so much worse.
New York, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, and maybe LA have good systems.
LA is shite. Getting around there is painful.
In Colombo Sri Lanka, those buses are not old buses, those are not actual buses, those are bus bodies built on Indian Made lorry chassis. Yes, somehow you are correct that the structure is too old for the buses.
Adelaide, Australia has also claims. It does have the O-Bahn Busway, but the railways don’t serve much of the eastern, central and southern part of city centre, there is no central bus station, and the interstate rail terminal is about 2km out of the city, as well as 2km from the suburban railway terminal. And there are no rural passenger railways left.
Makes more sense because Quebec City keeps playing with its urban rail transit. First a tram, then subway, then tram again, then light metro and who knows what will serve the city and the suburbs!
find it interesting that the main complaint is the use of old rolling stock, the reason why there's so many is because maintenance is cheaper than replacement and older vehicles have a considerably longer lifespan due to better all round reliability than more modern counterparts.
Well, you sure nailed the inexcusable shame of my home city, Columbus Ohio, right enough! Top of the List in bottomness.
I would say Virginia Beach/ Norfolk has pretty terrible public transport for how populated the area is. only some bus services and a very recently added light rail line that doesn’t connect much
Las Vegas should be on this list. No rail service whatsoever. They think adding BRT is the solution, they say they're looking at rail, but refuse to even try it. Streetcars could easily be built on the Strip, but the casinos cry it would ruin the sight lines to their casinos (answer is, it wouldn't) A Monorail was built, but nobody rides it because it's not even on the Strip. You have to walk ALL THE WAY to the back of casinos to find it. They bought buses that overheat at about 80⁰.
Live north of Detroit. It's unfair our pathetic excuse of public transit didn't make the list. I used to drive an average of 61.5 miles a day pre COVID. For a metro area with almost 4 million people, you would think we could have better systems. But some MAGA nuts in our state legislature want to send us back to the stone age.
Baltimore is not too bad compared to many of the others. It has Amtrak, commuter rail, and local transit that isn't too old.
Excuse me, according to your video colombo uses very old buses and trains. Trains yes and no both cus there old ones and new ones, as for the buses what you showed was fairly outdated footage because those buses are long gone in Colombo ,now there are more modern buses. Lastly Sri Lanka doesn't own big fortune like Australia or America to renew our buses and trains every 2-3 years so, for a south asian country colombo is not that bad.
The Baltimore Metro looks like something the soviets would have built in the 60s
Take a look at Cape Town South Africa. Trains almost never run due to cable & signal cable theft. The private buses are often attacked and burnt. The City's own system (MyCiti) is overwhelmed with travellers. This system has (mostly) it's own dedicated bus lanes and stations, but the rest of he traffic is a disaster.
"..van die blauw van onse hemel"....
Video:- This is worst
People living there:- this is life
4:14 those buses look like the ikarus 250's or 256's
I lived in Kansas City my whole life, and the public transport system used to be pretty awful. First, the stops weren't given good signage that tells you what bus you can catch and where it will go. Second, there is no rail line to the airport which is 20-30 miles away from downtown and the suburbs are as far out as 30 miles. And third, there is not even a bus to Leavenworth which is 30 miles away from downtown. But, the bus systems in the area have been refreshed (including much helpful signage), a streetcar system has been built and is currently being expanded, and public bicycles and scooters have come into existence in the city.
Perth really shouldn’t be on this list
Very shallow reasoning here. I do agree that diesel buses only amounts to no transit system.
I am very sad for my country Srilanka.but 2020 and abowe 10 year Sri lanka government bring some locomotives,powered sets,and carriages to develop railway system but there are many old rumanian carriages used to transport.
The main things that make transit bad in my opinion:
1. Bad coverage: not many lines, or major destinations not served
2. Bad frequencies: every 30 min or worse for most or all lines
3. Poor speed: Generally the result of little to no rail service or BRT.
After this, then I'd consider other things such as Rolling stock quality, sustainability, safety, expansions, etc.
What exactly is wrong with old buses and trains? I personally prefer older vehicles to modern ones because they're so much more interesting and fun to ride in, but that's my personal opinion, anyway I think the public transport network in Belgrade Serbia should be on this list. A lot of busy bus routes don't run frequently enough and only have non-articulated buses on them, trolleybus route 29 also has non-articulated vehicles on it. It has an interval of 3-5 minutes, but you still need to let 2 or even 3 trolleybuses go by before you can enter in the central areas because of how full the vehicles are. There are some train routes that are an efficient connection between the villages Ovča, Batajnica and Resnik located in the suburbs and they go through the center as well. The trams are more efficient than buses and trolleybuses but there aren't enough tram lines and the trams don't always have their own separate right of way, also there are hardly any bus lanes so buses get stuck in traffic a lot. The good news is that the construction of a subway has started, at least to my knowledge, also expansions of the tram and train network are planned, that will hopefully make rail transport the primary mode of transport in the city. This is good but Novi sad, the second biggest city in Serbia does not have a tram network despite the citizens having asked for one and having been promised one many times. I personally hope they get one because I love all public transport, but I love rail transport and especially trams most of all. Sorry for writing so much, I just wanted to share my opinion.
It may seem like that but there are plans to build an LRT for Colombo and Sri Jayawardenepura Kotre.
Good for them!
Why the hell would Wellington get rid of the trolleybuses?
It was privatised in 1992 and run into the ground. Too expensive and no expansion. It was almost saved and put back into public ownership when the greens and labour got back into power in 2017, but the plans were already in execution by the previous right wing governments. It was literally a hair away from being saved and upgraded.
I see that decision was stupid. They will have to bring back trolleybuses anyway when electric vehicle become a common power in the future
The person who posted this video is like one of those who gives bad review to the product just because the delivery guy doesn't look smart.
Ding
The person either dive to take train, work in train industry, or or own rail stock.
We should report this to Google
I don't mind old trams (as in Nishni Nowgorod) or underground trains. It can be even nice to ride. The problem comes if the frequency and connection possibilitiies are bad.
By the way: The only transi system in this list I rode on many years ago was the circle line in Yangon. Quite fun so.
In my city we have old trams but they ride frequently, but tram system is declining because they close routes and buses and minibuses capture these routes
Probably Bogotá deserves to be in the list, because the actual Transmilenio system isnt enough for a 10million people city
yeah they desperately need a metro, embarrassing if you compare to Medellin
The trains in Colombo look interesting. That loco 3:35 looks just like a Class 67.
True, that's my country and I love older models. Together with newer models they look splendid to me
This is far from the worst but it's pretty bad: Cambridge, UK
- Privately owned bus operator (which you can imagine is slow, patchy and unreliable)
- No light rail asides the BRT Guided Busway (a pseudo-tram which disappears as soon as you're near civilisation)
- No (or very little) public interest in new tramways or light rail
+ Decent station (frequent services to London, Ely and Birmingham)
+ Decent bike infrastructure (but there's still room for improvement)
The cars used in Mendoza appear to be ex-San Diego Trolley
Your last comment about Cincinnati’s population as compared to that of Columbus is misleading. The Cincinnati metro population is 2.2 million, with that of Columbus being about 2.1 million.
City proper population ;)
@@timosha21 The city proper population is irrelevant. In some metro areas, most people live in the proper city while in other cities it's just a tiny minority.
Old infrastructure is not bad unless it breaks down and there is low ridership.
The issue is not that the transport is made up of old vehicles, but that they are in a precarious situation. I also like old buses, but nothing justifies riding in one, where the seats are torn, and the interior of the vehicle is all dirty or in a state of calamity.
What's the song at 0:33?
Santiago de los Caballeros, Dominican Republic- City of about 1.3 million without much public transit system despite the fact that about 65% of the cities population uses public transit. Its a combination cars, vans, and even motorcycles that stuff way too many people into them. Even crazier is that there was no formal map of the system until there was an open source project created to let people contribute to mapping out the routes. There was a light rail system that was supposed to start construction in 2008, but apparently studies into the benefits of the system are "incomplete" in all these 13 years since.
Ehm... Speaking of the North American cities where public transit is kinda basic, except maybe Montréal and NYC - a lower population density in a typical North American city, centred around a downtown and the burbs rarely justifies any rail transit at all - you're never gonna get your money back for it. It's not Eastern Europe with those huge multi-storied concrete apartment blocks (luckily ;) ). Moreover, some municipalities are currently investing in the public transit (streetcar, BRT, LRT) in order to limit the sprawl and increase the population density.
Didnt expect USA in that list. But rembered that USA not public transit country, like european country. All people travel with cars, bikes and walking. Sometimes uses metro, if they have. In Europe, most people use trams and buses. If You want move to suburb or other City you use train. That you have to expect from Germany, France, Holland, Poland, Finland... but still a lot of people prefer cars or bikes (more transit than bikes)
I was expecting most of the entries to be US cities considering many US cities outside of the Northeast, Chicago and San Francisco there is often no rail transit and have buses that have headways of up to 3 hours and often have weird routes.
The entire American South except possibly Atlanta should've been #1 on this list. Down here people actually look down on you if you ride public transit. Especially conservative old white people. And since they unfortunately tend to be the ones always elected to public office, that prejudice plays a major role in why most cities in the South never graduated past a few basic bus routes.
3 hour headways? That would make sense in completely rural areas, but not urban ones. Cottonwood, Arizona, manages to have an hourly bus to Sedona, and frequencies that aren’t completely useless inside Cottonwood. Cottonwood and Sedona are fairly small.
You missed Detroit, MI! Yes there is a bus system, but it: never runs on time, buses issued by the FEDERAL government (Detroit was bankrupt at the time), and it only serves within the city limits. Light rail? No. Suburban transit? Yes, but there are usually no more than 5 passengers on a 40+ passenger bus!
Detroit's streetcar ain't that bad, took it more than a few times. There once was a nice plan to have a complete BRT network a la Cleveland but this was turned down by dumb metro voters...
The worst transit systems are in USA in my opinion.
It's because you haven't traveled to Brazil yet
@@adailtonribeiro6023 that is true, I have never been in Brazil
Perhaps some rather bright spots cancel them from being in the very worst position?
In nanning our metro(expect line 1) only goes to places with almost no inhabitants
We visited Quebec City in 2019 October and it had one of the best bus networks. It was shockingly accurate (on google maps) and very comfortable and affordable. It had very nice connectivity to suburbs as well. This video gets it all wrong.
I agree! I'm a Canadian and I know how much the government spends on transit! Not too bad! Timosha is always being so dumb. He hates how there is Rolling Stock on the TTC from the 1980s. Boy is he an idiot
Some years ago I tried to go from Leeds to Huddersfield (GB) by train. I had to wait 50 minutes for a train that was scheduled to run every 15 minutes....
Transport in the North of England is Shockingly bad considering it’s where trains and the industrial revolution originate.
All investment in transit goes to London I’m afraid
Probably they were on strike which is quite normal in the UK
@@danielfield2570 No strictly true. It's more that transport authorities waste money on schemes like bus station upgrades and vanity schemes. The amount of money that has been thrown at Metrolink and Supertram has been significant and with a city of 12-20 million like London and it commuter area without the investment the economic heart of the country would grind to halt. Blame the electorate that keeps voting in Government who believe the country finishes at Wembley and Hertford going North and Reading and Basingstoke going west. Living in Plymouth which has the least frequent commuter rail of any in Britain (8 trains a day Tamar Valley Line serving 6 stations) I agree more funding SHOULD be released to other cities and urban areas.
As a bus driver (not the UK) told my brother when he complained about waiting almost 40 minutes when frequency should be every 10 minutes - "I have plenty of other stops before this one"
But surely worth it to see the station....what say you, Geoff and Vicki.
Without L.A.'s slow rollout of rail service (literally in geologic time) over the past 30 years, L.A. would have made the list, but as a proud Los Angeles resident, I'm glad we didn't.
How is LA doing right now? I heard you have an apocalyptic homeless and garbage problem. And also a huge drug pandemic. Is it a bit better now or is it even worse?
@@Donknowww It depends on the area. Los Angeles is large geographically. Some areas, especially areas surrounding downtown, it's bad. I live in the West San Fernando Valley. Not as bad here, but more homeless are cropping up. As for the garbage, it comes with homelessness. Homeless don't take pride in their neighborhoods. Where there are homeless on the sidewalks, the garbage often spreads into the street. You got to be careful driving. I don't take the subway/light rail often (less since the pandemic), but even before then I've seen homeless on the trains. They'll sleep on the trains (that usually go back and fourth on most lines) until they're kicked out. There's some sleeping in the stations, but San Francisco beats L.A. hands down. Plenty of loitering in the stations there. That said, I wouldn't hesitate telling anyone that L.A. is a good place for a vacation. There's good and bad parts of town, and the tourist spots, even if there are homeless like around Santa Monica, I would say are quite safe.
@@roachtoasties NYC subway has the same homeless problem, it's been a crisis here in New York. Crime has insanely increased in the NYC subway.
Last year's vacation in the Balkans:
In Sarajevo, we had a train to catch at 7:15 AM and wanted our host to call us a cab. He said "No, a tram is much cheaper - go to the tram stop and wait for NUMBER ONE".
Number one never came, some lady told us the service is very infrequent. We took nr. 3 and walked the last 700 m. The tracks leading to the train station seemed out of service for some time. Horrible - there is no schedule, no information, only line is line nr. 3, no one knows what's going on and everyone accepts it.
‘Old trains still operate’ Well you should see the Isle of Wight railway system, they still use the old London tube 1938 stock for the operation until this year. Do you think the railway system at there is very bad?
Sadly the 1938 stock has been replaced and mainly scrapped with the arrival of the 'new' updated class 484s also known as the the underground D stock. Shame really the 1938 stock were old work horses
@@theunknownwarrior632 Dang it!
Actually they retired in January replaced by the Class 484 ex London Underground sub-surface 1979 stock en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_484 It's an efficient little system, albeit reliant on retired Underground stock since the 1960's.
I'd suggest Thunder Bay, NW Ontario, Canada. There's only two ways to visit or leave the city: By car or by airplane. Since Greyhound left there are no bus connections to any Canadian city. Its local bus service is rather dismal and, although there is a railway station it is only used once a year when a special train frequents the city...
Yes! I know how terrible the buses in Baltimore are! The schedules are astonishingly unreliable, and the staff are incredibly rude.
Please visit Antananarivo (capital city of Madagascar). 2 millions inhabitants (maybe more: the total population is unknown). No metro, no suburban railway, no light rail, no tramway, no trolleybus, not even classical buses. Just a small network of very old minibuses... And a lot of projects that never will be implemented or operated despite huge external fundings.
Honestly, Los Angeles has one of the worst public transit systems. It’s not bad overall, but for the second largest city. It’s pretty bad, especially it’s subway system. Washington DC and Boston have more passengers than LA.
When Wellington got rid of those trolleys, - someone must have got a bargain, - surely they weren't scrapped.