SARAH KADDOURA: Feminism, Islam & Women in the Arab World | Sarde (after dinner) Podcast #55
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- Sarah Kaddoura is a Palestinian feminist activist based in Lebanon. She is the creator and host of @hakinasawi1184 and Coordinator of Knowledge Curation at The A Project.
In this Sarde, we discussed the following:
- Islamic Feminism
- Societal consequences of removing the Hijab
- Honor crimes
- Islamic revisionism & renaissance
- #MeToo movement: pros & cons
- Relationships between men and women post-MeToo
سارة قدورة هي ناشطة ومنظمة نسوية فلسطينية من لبنان. تصنع محتوى وتقدم قناة "حكي نسوي"، وتعمل كمنسقة المعارف في مشروع الألف.
تحدّثنا في هذه السردة عن المواضيع التالية:
- النسوية الاسلامية
- العواقب المجتمعية لخلع الحجاب
- جرائم الشرف
- اعادة النظر والنهضة المحتملة للإسلام
- ايجابيات وسلبيات حركة ال #MeToo
- العلاقات بين الرجال والنساء بعد حركة ال MeToo
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The Sarde After Dinner Podcast is a free space based out of the heart of Beirut, Lebanon, where Médéa Azouri & Mouin Jaber discuss a wide range of topics (usually) held behind closed doors in an open and simple way with guests from all walks of life.
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Executive Producer Jad Banjarian
Edited by Dana Abdessamad
Translated by Elodie Finestres
Subtitling by Image Production House
00:00 | Intro to Sarah Kaddoura
01:43 | The multiple definitions of Feminism
03:45 | What is a patriarchal society?
08:47 | Dissecting radical feminism
12:58 | Feminism across the years
16:00 | Role of women in the Arab world: post-Arab Spring
21:58 | Israa Ghrayeb and the power of social media
24:50 | Honor crimes
27:14 | What is Islamic Feminism?
41:09 | Societal consequences of removing the Hijab
50:45 | Secular Society vs Secular Agenda
54:34 | Islamic Renaissance
58:24 | MeToo movement pros & cons
1:05:04 | Relationships between men and women post-MeToo
1:09:44 | Sexuality hotline - Zábava
Hey everyone! If you appreciate our content make sure to Like, Comment & Subscribe to our channel! Here are the timestamps!
00:00 | Intro to Sarah Kaddoura
01:43 | The multiple definitions of Feminism
03:45 | What is a patriarchal society?
08:47 | Dissecting radical feminism
12:58 | Feminism across the years
16:00 | Role of women in the Arab world: post-Arab Spring
21:58 | Israa Ghrayeb and the power of social media
24:50 | Honor crimes
27:14 | What is Islamic Feminism?
41:09 | Societal consequences of removing the Hijab
50:45 | Secular Society vs Secular Agenda
54:34 | Islamic Renaissance
58:24 | MeToo movement pros & cons
1:05:04 | Relationships between men and women post-MeToo
1:09:44 | Sexuality hotline
We are all proud of you!! Thank you. Hope you remember me (Layla Azem at LAU)
M on
Thank you for having me! It was a pleasure :)
Love u
The pleasure was ours Sara! We learned so much!
احلى شي انو بتستعمل مصطلحات عربية لكل شي تعودنا نسمعوا او نقرا بالانكليزي او الفرنسي. عنجد شخصية مميزة.
As a hijabi, I cannot thank Sarah enough for talking about hijabis and the importance of giving women the freedom and the right to wear the hijab AND remove it whenever they want.
Thank you for this sarde!
Awesome ep! Sara is so knowledgeable, I felt there is so much more left to be discussed! Invite her again, pls!
She is captivating: her voice, presence, organised thoughts, clarity, etc. I can tell both Mouin and Medea fell under her spell.
حلقه بتجنن مشالله جمالها الخارجي وداخلي وغير هيك قدرت تشرح الي بدها توصلو بشكل كتير واضح وحلو
عنجد شكرا كتير على استضافتها لانو هي حدا كتيير هادي و بيعرف يوصل الفكرة بطريقة مقنعة بتحرم كل فئات المجتمع
It is amazing to meet (not to discover because they always existed but under cover) those, in Lebanon and the middle east, who uncover, and practically live, the value of each human being, in fact of each living being. We finally see bright humans like Sarah become trailblazers same as the team of this show! Thanks to all the team and may the future be bright to all.
Amazing episode !
it's so good and refreshing to see such a progressive and enlightened person .
I wish that Lebanon and the region would embrace a more free ,liberal and secular worldview . That would solve a whole lot of their problems.
What a beautiful episode! I first thank you for the production and efforts. second, for the selection of the great minds.
I haven’t been in the region for 10 years, now just finished my 1 first month, and all I’ve been thinking of during this period is this topic. Well done.
حلقاتكم دائما ممتعة!
وزادة المتعة مع حديث سارة 💗💗
Proud to be her friend 🎉🦋💜
What she like in person? I wished she would talk about marriage more in his one.
حلقة روعة!
Sarah is fantastic. Thank you, Medea and Mouin for giving a platform for someone so thoughtful, knowledgeable, fair, and nuanced! This is exactly what we need in our part of the world (and everywhere). As an expat, it gives me such hope to hear these voices! ❤
She's such a well spoken woman. It was a pleasure listening to this podcast.
I am so grateful for this podcast and what you guys do!
It opens the window for me to learn more about Lebanon and for me to practice my Arabic.
I love the Lebanese dialect ♥️😄
Love it. Very honest conversation, hope it will open more doors for women from all walks of life.
She's right, i am a hijabi and i can feel eyes whenever i talk in politics and feminism mn l tarafen, li biefhamu b hal 2umur wli bi3arduwa, and it really sucks
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Sarahhhhhh so glad to see you on here
I missed you guys, great episode as alwayyyys
We missed you too!
Great episode. Loved ittttt
Such an inspiring podcast 🙏🙏 keep them coming please
شكراً من القلب للهوست و الغست و لجهودكم بحبكم 💛💛💛
Great episode ,as usual ❤
Great Sarde ❤️ She is really cool and so interesting , thank you all 🙏🏼
thank u very much for english sub, this is so helpfull for me to improve my arabic ^^
Waiting 🙋🏻♀️
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Loved it.
ماشاءالله على الثقافة والتوعية و الاحترام بالتوفيق تشرفت بمعرفتكم 😍😍
Amazing!!
I literally love her so much 😭
Great show 👍🏼
Sarah awesome as always ❤️
amazing episode
Sorry Guys i couldnt watch it live!.😔
praping for Halloween tonight with kids,lol, some pumpkins carving, 🙃, I will catch up for sure later today and watch this amazing episode, an amazing topic that need to be exposed without sugar coating.
Women in vasp majority of our society are oppressed and discriminated.. The change can happen only by educating the new generation that woman and man both shall be equal and both are important contributors toward the society and homeland. we do have lots of succesful women leaders in the west and North america, Canada, are arab and lebanese descendant. we can have the same in Lebanon and the arab world.
Good show, amazing people, you guys rock. keep it up.. big fan..❤🇨🇦🌹😘
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The episode is great ❤️ I am from Egypt and I treat the veil as a costume for cultural acceptance because harassment is justified with the absence of the veil. The issue is that people put me in a certain frame of a pre-image of the veiled woman. So far, I suffer from this issue because I am in a male dominated field, so I am always excluded at work, although I am better than most of them.
Nice dialogue, I enjoyed it and I like Sarah's point of view ❤️❤️❤️
شدتني اسمع كلشي عم تحكي كلام حلو ومريح و رااااائعة شلون بتلفت النظر من طبيعي شو عنده ملكة القبول.....ناهيك عن جمالا
Can’t wait!🤗
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sooo excited too watch this episode with Sarah!🥳
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This is my favorite sarde so far.
From the top ones yes 😀
my Canaanite Palestinian girl 🇵🇸✝️
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🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
رائعه
Proud of you !!!👏👏👏👏
A well spent hour💖💖
روعة
💗💗💗
روعة 🥰
برنامجكم أكثر من رائع . بدنا تستضيفوا شي ختيارة تغني فلكلور
Brava Sarah❤
It takes millions of Sarah to grow up males who, in the future, will be loving father, husbands, brothers and will walk together with respect for a better world 🙏
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روعه روعه
Is Feminism Compatible With Islam?
Can Muslim Be A Feminist? Check out this playlist on Islam & Feminism: czcams.com/play/PLgrhw8sbiJg1Vv22K2hmwOCAWGUYGvmvb.html
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سارة الرهيبة للابد 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
Brilliant ❤️
Genuine.
Amazing podcast .
💙💙💙
She looks a lot like the British actress Claire Foy, from the Crown
😍😍😍😍😍
حلقة حلوة ..
لكن كان ناقص يتضوى عالبعد الاقتصادي اللي هو اهم عامل بيأثر بالمجتمع والعلاقات .. المرأة والطفل حلقات ضعيفة واستغلالهم بالعمالة للأبوية هو الاساس .. ومن اجل هذا يجب ان يكونوا تحت السيطرة .. وكل ما يمارس بحق المرأة يندرج تحت هذا الاساس.
She’s amazing 🤩
ايمتى حتستضيفو جمانة حداد؟❤
ياليت😭
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Wow this talk ended too fast
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جميل كلامها بالعربي.
😍😍😍😍😍
Please get Maria Elayan ❤❤❤
عندنا في موريتانيا الموضوع يعتبر لسا “tabou” و انا شخصيا اهتم بموضوع النسوية الإسلامية و مساواة النوع و اشتغل من فترة على هدا الموضوع و كتير استفدت و بدي اتابعك خصوصي عشان استفاد اكثر و افيد غيري thank you ❤️
تابعي اياد القنيبي
Tu es belle sarah
Guys I suggest u to host me u need an episode abt teenagers life in Europe or the US.. I'm Syrian and I suffered a lot here in Germany and Im also feminist I can discuss with u abt Arab women here in Germany there's a lot to say trust me it would be an amazing episode
Im 18 years old studying bac now here
I love it 😍
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Invite Dr Ziad njeim, انسان كتير متحرر
كنت بتمنى انو المحاورين شافوا فيديوهاتا شوي. في أسئلة غريبة..... "بحس انو النسوية اتغيريت" يعني لو الواحد عامل research عل ويكيبيديا كان عرف هل معلومة
اهم شى الكورين الله يعينك
I understand that the point of your show is a discussion with the end goal of learning something new, but some degree of research and understanding is always required to conduct a fruitful discussion. Asking "what is the patriarchy, does it have something to do with dads?" Shows that either you are completely ignorant or you are purposefully trying to dumb the discussion down. A better phrasing would have been: "I know that the patriarchy is XYZ, but how do you feel about alot of women internalizing these patriarchal beliefs and perpetuating them?"
In the place we live in, these "dumb questions" have to be asked, because the "dumb people" would not ask them themselves
@@mohammady7895 yes thats why the interviewers job is to establish basic foundations/definitions. They could have easily explained to the audience what the patriarchy is and then went on to ask Sarah more profound and meaningful questions.
الكثير معتقدين أن النسوية شي معادي للأديان او مجرد مبدأ موجود لـ " قمع" الرجل و أخذ "حقوقه"، وهذا تفكير خاطئ. العداء هو ردت فعل من هم بالجهة المقابلة الذين يتخيلون، أو بقرارة أنفسهم مقتنعين أن نساؤهم ملكية لهم، وأن لا حقوق لهم الا الهبات المقدمة من الرجل مقابل الطاعة و الامتثال لأوامره. وعندما يسمع خطاب نسوي مثل الذي تقدمه سارة بكل تفهم و منطقية يجن جنونه، لأن مره اخرى يظن أن المرأة هذه هي ملكيته الخاص وليس لها أن تظن أن لها حقوق. عموما، لا نطيل. شكرا سردة لاستضافتكم الصديقة سارة التي أضافت لمكتبتكم حديث نَسوي لا يمل منه.
مشكورين عالحلقة وسارة فطيييعة
وقناتها هلق دورت عليها وحضرت فيديوهاتها
ياريتها تجي ع اوروبا وتخلص من قرف لبنان وسورية وقرف البلدان العربية
بالله سؤال مين هاد الشخص الفرنسي اللي بالانترو
Jaques brel , he's a singer
@@lilyalilya9209 merci
@@musallamseif8852 Sorry i was mistaken , his name is "Serge Gainsbourg "
@@lilyalilya9209 مزبوط هاد هو
Great podcast. Just wondering , for the sake of a different point of view, to what extent is it possible to get Dr. Jordan Peterson to be on this podcast? 🤔
If you can reach him let us know :)
@@sardeafterdinner you would do better with someone like Dave Chappelle who is actually a Feminist.
Also aren’t there enough of “Jordan Petersons” in ME 😅
@@sardeafterdinner Still waiting for you guys to get Yasmine Al Masri or Yasmine Hamdan since she actually read my message on Facebook.
سارة مهضومة وحديثها لبق، مهذب بس بضلو حديث نظريات، بيخلط الحابل بالنابل، وسارة عم تحكينا من وجهة نظر غربية ضيقة. الحقوق المدنية للسود بالسبعينات هاي باميركا، اذا بتنزل شوي صوب افريقيا، باستثناء جنوب افريقيا، بتلاقي الوضع مختلف. اي الهيبٌيز كانو مهضومين بس في سبب ليه ميثالييتهم ما استمرت. الثورة الجنسية هي كانت واحدة من الأسباب الرئيسية لتحويل جسد المرأة لسلعة واستخدامه وين ما كان، بالتالي، يمكن ما تكون شغلة عاطلة اذا ما تبنٌينا واستهلكنا هالافكار بمجتمعاتنا... مقارنة ديانة (الاسلام) بطايفة (الكاثوليكية) بضعٌف الحديث. عدا عن انو، ليه الكاثوليكية؟ يللي بالمنطقة عنا اقلية. وعاساس عم نحكي عن قمع النساء، ما فهمت شو خص اذا في سماح للمتعة بالاسلام كيف هالشي بخفف القمع؟ تجحيش المرأة، خدر النساء الخ...مش هولي كانو جزء من نضال قاسم امين؟ عدا عن انو سارة خالطة بين التحجر الديني puritanism والكاثوليكية.
بالنسبة للنسوية اليسارية، مش مطلع عليها، بس حسب ما بعرف انو النسوية ما كانت مبينة بالدول اليسارية -بوقتها- لانو الشيوعية فصلت بين العامل وغيره، ذكرا كان ام انثى... يمكن هيدا الشي الوحيد الحلو بالشيوعية.
الجواب عن جرايم الشرف ركيك وانتروبولوجياً غلط - شو خص اذا المرأةطاهرة بنقل الارض للولاد؟ لازم تعرفي اذا باليهودية او المسيحية في جرايم شرف وكيف تمت معالجتهم، بما انو ذكرتي الديانات الإبراهيمية، والا ما بكون موعضوع جرايم الشرف خصو بالمرأة بل بكون بتطبيق قراءة معينة لدين معين.واخر شي، الحديث عن البطريركية او النظام الابوي، يعني... الافضل لو شرحتيها من وجهة نظر ماركسية، خصوصي بما انك يسارية، كانت وصلت الفكرة اوضح، بس، اكيد، مجردة من النظرية النسوية
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Muslim Feminist/Islamic Feminism is Like Saying Meat Eating Vegetarian
why don't you host Seb Alex Armenian Lebanese activist
المشكلة كبيرة جدا في الأمة الإسلامية . صعب جدا الإصلاح . ف نظروا التنظير جميل ولكن للأسف بدون فائدة .
موضوع حلو كتير والنقاش كان سلس والأفكار واضحة،بس بنفس الوقت هيك موضوع ضروري نحكي في من خلال زوايا مختلفة،كرمال هيدا الموضوع مش نتاج هذه اللحظة..تاريخياً هيدا النظام تجلى بكتير مجتمعات ومن ثقافات مختلفة وكان لتجليه أسباب عديدة،منها ١)الأثر البيولوجي بين المرأة والرجل وعلاقته بالسلوك العام للفرد وباعتقادي هذا الأثر الظاهر هو من أهم الأسباب التي دفعت المجتمعات آنذاك لتبني هكذا نظام..
٢)الأثر السياسي وارتباطه بطبيعة الفرد،فالرجال هم من كانوا يذهبون للحروب بسبب طبيعة جسدهم الأكثر صلابة وتحملاً من جسد المرأة..
٣)غياب العلم،القيم والمفاهيم والأحكام كلها أسباب ساهمت بتثبيت هكذا نظام..
لذلك،النظام الأبوي هو "نتيجة" وليس"سبب"وخاصة في المجتمعات القديمة،فالنظام الأبوي ظهر وتجلى بسبب وجود تلك الأسباب التي تكلمت عنها سابقاً..والتاريخ يشهد على ما قد حصل في تلك المجتمعات من "قمع" للمرأة ولرغبة المرأة ولطموحات المرأة ولأحلام المرأة...لذلك إذا أردنا الحديث في مثل هكذا موضوع علينا أن نتناول الكثير من الأمور..
أما الآن وفيما يخص المجتمعات التي ننتمي إليها أي "المجتمعات العربية" وخاصة بعد نزول الديانة الإسلامية المتمثلة "بالقرآن الكريم"..القرآن هو كتاب أنزل ليُخرج الناس من الظلمات إلى النور..الظلمة هي "اللامعرفة "أو الجهل وهي كلمة تضاد لكلمة النور التي تتجسد "بالمعرفة"..
والقرآن هو الكتاب الذي تناول الكثير من المواضيع التي تتعلق بحياة "البشر"والبشر هنا الذكر والأنثى وليس لفئة معينة من البشر..
هذه الأحكام البشرية المجتمعية هي علوم وحقائق مرتبطة ارتباطاً وثيقاً بسر "التكوين"أي التكوين البيولوجي للإنسان،لذلك الإختلاف بين الرجل والمرأة حقيقة وليس وهم ولا يمكن لأحد أن يغض النظر عن مثل هكذا إختلاف!لأن الخلق يعود للخالق الأعلم وليس للبشر الضعفاء..
لذلك الإختلاف حقيقة ومن خلال هذا الإختلاف يتحقق التوازن في المجتمع بين المرأة والرجل،وخاصة إذا طُبّقت النصوص القرآنية بشكلها السليم..فإن القرآن دعانا إلى العدل،الإحسان،الرفق،المساواة وكل هذه المفاهيم تتعلق بطبيعة العلاقة بين الرجل والمرأة،وهذه الشروط الأساسية لكي يحل التوازن بين هذين المخلوقين المكملين لبعضهما البعض..لم يحث الرجل على القمع والظلم واللامساواة وإيذاء المرأة..كما يحصل الآن في مجتمعاتنا..
وما يحصل الآن في مجتمعاتنا من ظلم وإفتراء للمرأة يعود لعدم فهم مضمون الدين الإسلامي من جهة وعدم تطبيق الأحكام القرآنية من جهة آخرى..
على سبيل المثال وإذا أردنا أن نتحدث اليوم عن الحياة المجتمعية داخل مجتمعات "الدول المتقدمة"نراهم أقرب منا للصواب..فالدولة العادلة في زمننا هذا هي الدولة التي تطبق العدل،التي تهدف لتحقيق المساواة بين كافة أفراد المجتمع،الدولة التي تدفع أبنائها لطلب العلم والمعرفة لتحقيق المنفعة العامة للمجتمع والتقدم نحو الأمام والإزدهار..فالدولة المدنية التي نطالب فيها كشعوب تجسدت في أحكام"القرآن الكريم"..
لذلك ولكي لا نطيل في الحديث أكثر،علينا أن نعترف ونقر بشرعية القرآن ودوره السامي والأساسي في تقدم المجتمعات نحو الأمام، ونسعى لفهم هذا الدين القيّم والإنطلاق من خلاله نحو واقع مجتمعي جديد..
شكلها ساره بدا تسافر على كندا
غريب امر هذا المرأة عليها إجماع كامل...نتمنى ان تستضيفوا القاضي اسامة الرفاعي
مع كل الاحترام
المقابلة ما كتير مفيدة لان طريقة الكلام مو مختصر ومباشر ...اللي بدو يفهم منيح يحضر فيديوهات نوال السعداوي بتحكي بشكل اقوى عن الاسلام والنسوية وحقوق المرأة والتاريخ وكل شي ...
ملحدة نهايتها جهنم
سارة يا حلوه
سردة واللي فيها كثير عاملين اعلام تقليدي بشكل ووجوه غير. يعني الاعلام التقليدي ابن السلطات والانظمة الحاكمة مش معناه نفس الوجوه يطلعوا في يوتيوب وبس. لكن نفس الاسئلة ونفس الاحكام المسبقة ونفس طريقة ادارة الحوار ونفس الفوقية... نفس السردة
liberal feminism not radical. Heirarchy is there wether we like it or not, its definitely important to have, infact its there by nature. the strongest, the smartest, the wittiest get to lead the group. wether it be a father or a mother figure in a family. the person who fits the role will lead by nature, automatically, and is usually chosen by the group.
حبيت المقابلة معها
l quraan ma 7arram l est3bad ?
jibo 7ada msa2af man ...
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We are not Arabs, but under Arab colonialism since French colonialism handed him the keys to power in the middle of the twentieth century. We are the indigenous Amazigh people of North Africa (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia Libya and others country) suffer from racism and identity theft, which is embodied in the repressive Arabization practiced by the ruling Arab dictatorial regimes. Amazigh is the historical identity of North Africa, but the Arab dictatorial regimes are working to make it outside the framework of everything that is happening in this region by coercive Arabization. The abuse of power and the employment of islamique religion. What creates a soil unsuitable for democracy and coexistence between peoples to confront human problems such as the environment and poverty . Media and educational incitement to consider Arabism and Islam as the and sublime identity imposed by law, creates an identity crisis that fuels ethnic and religious extremism and produces, as the world is experiencing, thousands of terrorists who strike inside and outside the borders, not to mention the death of thousands of immigrants fleeing poverty and injustice.We call on the democratic and free world to dig into the true history of North Africa and not to be tempted by Arab propaganda.To stop calling our countries the Arab world or the Arab Maghreb, the racist phrase that Kadhafi made in 1998.The Arab regimes of North Africa has reached the point of banning Amazigh personal names and they do everything in their power to obstruct the Amazigh language from taking its place in state institutions, in addition to dissolving Amazigh parties and suppressing Amazigh militants.Associations and jurists interested in the Amazigh issue have what they present as evidence to consider the actions of Arab nationalists in North Africa amounting to war crimes against humanity.
انتم عرب
يعني انتي كيف بدك تكوني (نسوية) و نفس الوقت بدك تبرري اضطهاد الاسلام للمرأة
نفاق
نسويه وابغى صديقات زيي نو جد جد الموضوع واصل ليينن راسي ابغى اتناقش مع حد بمواضيع زي كذا.. لانه حرفيا صديقاتي اللي معي اذا بس قلتلهم إنني نسويه يقولون كافره ملحده ومانتي راضيه بالدين.. فاهمينن كلشي غلط.. ماعدت ارتاح اجلس معاهم.. عندهم فكر انه لو ماخدمت زوجي اش فايدتي.. قرفف.. اجلس اقولهم فيدوا نفسكم وانفعوا نفسكم وكونوا نفسكم ولا تخلوا يتدخل بمسيرة حياتكم.. بس ما يفهموني ويطول النقاش
حلو الواحد يحدد مسيرته وما يخلي احد يتدخل عليه الا في حالة اذا كان فيه مخالفة للدين
هنا يجي دور اي ينصحك بعدم فعل هالشيء وهذا صحيح لا اشكال فيه
معين انت مقتنع انو ساره راح تهدم نظام الابوي
بدنا حلقة عن الالحاد ايجابياته وسلبياته و شكرا ...
ايش الايجابيات بس اكتئاب والنهاية جهنم
ما فيه ولا ايجابية
TLDR she is heavily biased and ignorant or chooses not to say the truth, also men and women need to have equal value a fair just value but that doesn't mean they do the exact same thing whither you believe in god or look at other animals in biology even though there are special cases we go by the norm and then work with the special cases rather than the other way around. those who believe in a religion should follow it as for those who don't have a religion and are trying different things, they need to try to be as objective and proactive about finding the best system for men and women rather than being reactive again and again, carrying toxicity and hatred witheach reaction. finally and ironically in feminism it seems like what gives a woman value to be "strong" is doing traditionally masculine things even the ones we recognise as toxic. while undervaluing things that are stereotypically feminine and basically going "ow yeah!? you think that such and such are weak? well yes they are and that's why we are gonna do what you are doing" basically rather than letting femininity up, they want to be men.
if you actually listen you can hear many many problems, feminism and the red pill movements are toxic jokes that only hurt our society, and "islamic" feminists and red pill people are even more of a joke and are more toxic.
she talks about things while making it seem as if she is knowledgable when she is far from knowledgable, I'm barely knowledgable and I can tell how ignorant she is which shows how much ignorant/ stuck in an echo chamber she is.
for example, she says extremism comes from going after the root cause when there are feminsist that want all men dead and will lITERALLY abort male babies, they are insane and nothing like she made it seem like.
the feminist and the red pill movmement like any other toxic extreme reactionary movement, they take a grain of truth and then they insert there own toxicity and sell you on something that is much more.
there was a study that have thousands if not 100 thousand women surveyed and over time even with the advancement of feminism and the whole mee too movement, they have become more and more depressed with single women in their 40s working a high corporate job being the most depressed. don't take my word for it you can look it up yourself.
furthermore, after the mee two movement men in the work place act as if they are walking around eggshells when they are around women while women are now feeling like they are being isolated from the group, which they kinda are as you would naturally imagine as one complaint even if not true might end your career while at the same time I'm not saying the metoo movment was completely wrong as there is a lot of harassment that can happen in a mixed work place.
"islamic" feminists and islamic "red pill" people are more of a joke because there is an already made system, the whole "men interpreted text" is idiotic and ignorant to the fullest, as in Islam you have full chains going back to the prophet about most interpretations, the window for modern interpretation of scholars is very small, plus even at the time of the prophet many ahadith have chains all the way back to female companion of the prophet not just aisha the wife of the prophet, she is well known because 1 she is one of the biggest narratures (in volume and context) only second to people like abu hurira which is a big achievement, she also lived a long life which means she had taught many people. their were also many other female companions that also transmitted their ahadith to the next generations with the interpretations.
the problem of "islamic feminists" is that they pick and choose at to what they want which is not something you can do in Islam, either you take all of it or you don't (you can still go against it aka sin but by the fact you see it as a sin means you have taken all of it)
also islamic feminists are two types, 1 who isn't too ignorant and in their own bubble, those ones will for the most part only know there rights in Islam while ignore the rights that men have in Islam, for example they are big on the "my money is my money while your money is my money" yet they will not recognise that the right of the man that the final say in the house is his( although you should discuss with the people in the house ultimately you want a harmonious environment)
2 the second type is totally living in cucu land. many of the things they claim might take them out of Islam as they are fundamental such as saying a major sin isn't a sin, that in of itself is a sin that takes you out of the fold of Islam when ironically most major sins except for kufur and shirk will not take you out of Islam. homosexuality is a major sin in Islam whither you like it or not, guess what is also a major sin in Islam? premarital sex much less adulty, ultimately they are all major sins yet they seem to pick and choose by saying one of them isn't a sin while the is. yes loving other men isn't a sin in of itself as in Islam what is inside of your mind isn't counted BUT it's not like gay men are just gonna hug, and that intercourse between a man and another man is a sin, so airing it out and normalising gay relationships will only normalise doing a major sin, and again don't take my word for it, you ask yourself, how many men with families and children broke their families apart and "came out" as gay? the big problem isn't this, it's with that they did after that which is getting into a gay relationship.
now you might not agree with what I said and that's fine, you don't believe in Islam, the problem is when you say that you believe in Islam then say "but I don't agree with this or that" Islam has AN OBJECTIVE morality and it's anchor is it's ontology, so if you believe in it's ontology and Mohammad as the last prophet then no matter if you like it or not, you will have to go with it and you should probably look into yourself and environment as to why you disagree with it.
the same goes for the red pill movement, they ar ea bunch of toxic manlets that might have gotten ligetamily hurt by women but rather than improving and finding a better women, they become resentful and they start missing with other people's lives, women's lives. you know we have a saying that goes something like " a pot that found its' lid" andi truly believe that feminsim and the red pill movment is that pot and lid..
hopefully with educated you a bit, if I didn't explain something well or you disagree with something, I am open for discussion, the last thing you want to be in is an echo chamber!
Lmao get a job
@@rouba7315 thanks, totally disreguard everything i said as if it's gonna help anybody.
how about you actually do resserch on your environment and the international environment to actually contribute for something rather than being a waste of space.... smh
Ouuu burn HAHAHAHAHAHA
@@rouba7315 lmao are we really gonna keep this elementary school playground back and for for no reason?
in all of what I wrote, what do you disagree with, what do you think I missed or misunderstood?
You are spot on, Islam is a complete teaching from self-discipline to self-driven education إقرأ to marital law, science , economics etc. It’s not seasonal, it is valid in every era and time because of the core values and truths it holds. The issue is people speaking as if they are the rebirth of the Prophet in 1800 or 1990 or 2021 etc, when the interpretation they are promoting is self-motivated to clear them of their guilt. For God’s sake سورة لوط is crystal clear the sin is echoed in Christianity and Judaism. You cannot claim it was taken out of “ context”. It’s quite interesting why “ Muslims” under the name of movements “ Islamic Feminism”, “ Freedom of Expression” etc come up with odd ball interpretations of Islam when we know that Prophet Mohammed (PBUH ) is the last prophet and Islam is the last religion yet they have the constant urge to upgrade the rule and reign of Allah promoting ideas as premarital sex, incest as if they are moral and ethical and written in hidden text in the Holy Quran to say they are right. While Jews and Christians would never make such claims they would simply say we are atheists.