The General Effects Of Atomic Bomb On Hiroshima And Nagasaki
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I'm the fourth comment, I'm also not making any controversial claims. This video is nice and conveys information. I appreciate you posting it!
According to the Roman numeral "MCMXLVII" at the end credit the film seems to be published in 1947. It's interesting to see how the DoD does not focus on the effect of radiation even though it's titled "general". It seems to reflect a general trend in the early atomic programs where the effect of radiation wasn't really brought to light, which resulted in soldiers being exposed to harmful doses of radiation during nuclear tests.
According to the Roman numeral "MCMXLVII" at the end credit the film seems to be published in 1947. It's interesting to see how the DoD does not focus on the effect of radiation even though it's titled "general". It seems to reflect a general trend in the early atomic programs where the effect of radiation wasn't really brought to light, which resulted in soldiers being exposed to harmful doses of radiation during nuclear tests.
Wayne Patterson --- The science was still somewhat naive about the dangers of radiation in 1947 as demonstrated by the use of X-ray machines in shoe stores to properly determine shoe sizes and fit. Sort of like watching Al (Married With Children) using an X-ray machine in his shoe store in a 1947 setting and fantasy episode. A relative who was a responsible surgeon and physician had his fingers progressively amputated and skin grafts applied in the 1960s to combat cancer resulting from overexposure to X-rays while examining patients in the 1930s and 1940s.
These bombs were designed primarily to maximize blast damage through the use of a "mach stem" This is accomplished by detonating well above ground level which has a side effect of minimizing fallout. That said, while they may not have touched on it in this film the army studied the radiological effects extensively. That is one of the primary sources for understanding the long-term effects of radiation exposure to this very day.
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Nagasaki was a civilian city, too?
Nagasaki was one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great wartime importance because of its wide-ranging industrial activity, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials. The four largest companies in the city were Mitsubishi Shipyards, Electrical Shipyards, Arms Plant, and Steel and Arms Works, which employed about 90% of the city's labor force, and accounted for 90% of the city's industry.
I know for a fact that germany was developing an A bomb before the manhattan project even began (it's kind of funny actually, einstein and a team of scientists sent a card to the U.S. president explaining that the nazis were wroking on a nuclear bomb, explaining the power of such bomb, and that he should be on his guard. The president was very interested on this nuclear bomb, and a few days later, the manhattan project began).
Nagasaki almost was missed and cancelled .It was the last pass running low on fuel after taking too much time and the Bombardier found an opening.The mission was not well run but from the damage maps the Bock's Car plane crew nailed it and destroyed the military factories lacking in Hiroshima.
Nagasaki almost was missed and cancelled [...] and destroyed the military factories lacking in Hiroshima.
Wayne Patterson --- The air bombardment of Hiroshima with the Little Boy atomic bomb attacked and destroyed the Imperial Japanese Army's Headquarters for the Second General Army, 59th Army, the 5th Division and the 224th Division, and their subordinate organizations responsible for the defense of Southern Japan and Kyushu in particular. Hiroshima had served as a garrison for Imperial Japanese Army and Naval troops and as a port of embarkation for the preceding years of Japanese military and naval campaigns in WWII. At the time of the 6 August 1945 air bombardment attack the city served as a garrison for some 40,000 troops of which upwards of 20,000 were killed in the attack. Also destroyed by the attack were many of the significant military supply and logistic depots and transportation systems, communications center and networks, and major and cottage industries manufacturing parts for weaponry supporting the Japanese forces in Kyushu in opposition to the upcoming OPERATION OLYMPIC invasion scheduled for November-December 1945.
Wonderful world of science.
They need to make a movie about tgr bombing s..and show the actual fire storms and chaos that happened...so far Barefoot Gen is the closest to what it was actualization like to be in the city when it hit
This is so clinical.
What devastation! What human loss
No one is an angel at war, but civilian are to be left out of it as much possible. The target were not choices of military importance, but rather of historical importance. Kyoto was a valid target, but was removed.
Just because the enemy has rotten leaders doesn't mean it's okey to be one.
In love and war all is fair. Start a war, get a war. Just two words: Nanking 1937.
False statements. The defender is responsible for the safety of civiolians located within the proximity of military targets. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were in fact locations containing very significant military targets of critical importance in the event of the OPERATION OLYMPIC invasion of Kyushu.
Cool little thing I found with this video while randomly watching and listening to music: If you take the Fallout 3 Ambient Soundtrack by TheMoneill83, start it 40 second into the soundtrack and about 30-31 seconds into the video, it'll weirdly match up. It may just be me- but I think it really works with the subject matter, very sad and ominous
On August 6, 1945, at 8:15 AM local time, the United States detonated an atomic bomb over the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Sixteen hours later, American President Harry S. Truman called again for Japan's surrender, warning them to "expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth." Late in the evening of August 8, 1945, in accordance with the Yalta agreements, but in violation of the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality Pact, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan, and soon after midnight on August 9, 1945, the Soviet Union invaded the Imperial Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo. Later in the day, the United States dropped a second atomic bomb, this time on the Japanese city of Nagasaki. Following these events, Emperor Hirohito intervened and ordered the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War to accept the terms the Allies had set down in the Potsdam Declaration for ending the war. After several more days of behind-the-scenes negotiations and a failed coup d'état, Emperor Hirohito gave a recorded radio address across the Empire on August 15. In the radio address, called the Jewel Voice Broadcast (玉音放送 Gyokuon-hōsō), he announced the surrender of Japan to the Allies.
And that is how we Americans say, "That was that."
The Allies had already demonstrated the abandonment of the policy of not bombing civilian populations with Hamburg, and Dresden and then Tokyo. The American casualties at Okinawa caused by a suicide defensive Japanese army alarmed US Military leaders and the predicted loses of US solders in an invasion of Japan were 2 1/2 million.The Bomb saved lives on both sides. Occasionally. throughout history nations go insane. Japan during this time period was an example, unlike the post WW2 recovery.
Well said!
David Kelso --- The Allies had already demonstrated the abandonment of the policy of not bombing civilian populations with Hamburg, and Dresden and then Tokyo.
Wayne Patterson --- That is incorrect. The air bombardment of Hamburg and resultant firestorm occurred during OPERATION GOMORRAH air raids in the period between 24 July 1943 to 3 August 1943. The RAF bombed area targets within Hamburg with about 2,900 sorties. The USAAF launched about 300 sorties, but only 98 sorties reached Hamburg and bombed its precision targets, which were the Blohm and Voss shipyard and an aircraft engine factory. In the case of the Dreden air raids the RAF conducted night area bombing raids to compensate for their inability to strike precision targets in daylight air raids. The USAAF attempted to strike precision targets in Dresden such as the railyards they previously attacked in 1944, however, the winter weather cloudiness and the smoke from the priorr RAF raids resulted in the USAAF air raids being unable to make visual sightings of the precision targets and in some cases attacked the wrong cities (e.g. Prague etc.). When visual bombing was not possible the USAAF bombers used their HX-1 radar to target the city center on the radar scopes. The objective of the air bombardment of Dresden was to interdict the transportation, communcations networks, command and control, logistical supplies, and war industries Germany needed to transfer combat divisions and service units from the Western Front to the Eastern Front against the Soviets. The USAAF area bombing of Tokyo in OPERATON MEETINGHOUSE and later was due to the incapability of precision bombing to strike the intended targets because of the jetstream over the targets and due to the way in which the secondary war industries were fully dispersed among residential homes and within residential homes throughout the city districts. An aircraft assembly plant could be wiped out by a precision air raid, yet the untouched parts suppliers located within private homes surrounding the aircraft assembly plant remained untouched and capable of quickly resuming operations with a new or rebuilt aircraft assembly plant. Striking and destroying the capability to produce combat aircraft required the destruction of the residential homes in which the parts subsystems were being manufactured for delivery to the large aircraft assembly plants. Only area bombing was capable of striking and destroying such industrial targets widely dispersed throughout the urban areas.
@@waynepatterson5843 bomber Harris and had allready accepted that it was terror bombing . Many reasons to send a message to the citizens that hitler was lying to them and his wars were costing the world a great deal. Remember even Darmstadt was bombed in 1944 . Also the Nazis struck London conventry and other cities. So it was a collective decision. Britain had the capability they used it to save allied lives from a ground invasion.
@@remarkableshailesh --- bomber Harris and had already accepted that it was terror bombing .
Wayne Patterson --- That is an oversimplification which disregards the nature of the targets and the inability of the night missions of RAF Bomber Command to locate and accurately strike many targets smaller than a city. The consequent area bombing was characterized by the NAZI propaganda broadcasts as "terror bombing" while disregarding Hitler's deliberate attempts to inspire terrorism in Britain with the Luftwaffe's bomber blitz attacks, indiscriminate V-1 attacks, and V-2 ballistic missile attacks.
Shailesh M --- Remember even Darmstadt was bombed in 1944 .
Wayne Patterson --- Darmstadt was a legitimate military target system consisting of the railway communications, major chemical plants instrumental in the processing of ferrous and non-ferrous metals for the war industries, and a wide assrtment of ancillary war industries. The RAF Bomber command was incapable of conducting precision bombing attacks upon such a target system, so area bombing of the city was required for RAF Bomber Command to impact those war industries and the railway system supply troops and war supplies between the fronts.
Shailesh M --- Britain had the capability they used it to save allied lives from a ground invasion.
Wayne Patterson --- Britain used the RAF Bomber Command to degrade Germany's ability to mount attacks against the British cities, and the RAF Bomber Command's inability to conduct daylight strategic bombing operations left area bombing in general as the only typical means of doing so.
@@waynepatterson5843 the objective was to create a fire storm . They did it in Hamburg . They trained for it in Darmstadt as it was near the border and they didn't have to fly over enemy territory . Dresden was the grand finale. Also in Darmstadt and Dresden they failed to hit military targets many times. Read somewhere that bomber Harris observed the London bombings through his window and told his colleague that if the Luftwaffe only corrected their tactics they could create a firestorm. He is the brain behind the bombing of German cities.
Hiroshima was a civilian city?
Hiroshima was a city of both industrial and military significance. A number of military camps were located nearby, including the headquarters of the 2nd General Army which commanded the defense of all southern Japan. The 2nd Army consisted of some 400,000 men. Also present in Hiroshima was the headquarters of the 5th Division, 59th Army, and most of the 224th Division, a recently formed mobile unit. In total, 40,000 military personnel were stationed in Hiroshima.
thanks. Truth is a bloody nuisance.
>> But the american government didn't leave time for japan to fall apart,
For several months, the US had dropped more than 63 million leaflets across Japan, warning civilians of air raids. In general, the Japanese regarded the leaflet messages as truthful, however, anyone who was caught in possession of a leaflet was arrested by the Japanese government. Leaflet texts were prepared by recent Japanese POWs because they were thought to be the best choice "to appeal to their compatriots."
When you ask for something sometimes you get it
Yep
Azshole. The world will revenge soon
@@lucius0malfoy give it your best shot and bring all your friends. The devastation seen in this video is what you will get.
On the eve of destruction take a moment to remember. ❤️☮️🙏
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@William Wright
So many innocent people have been affected and killed by useless wars in the past, may the previous wars serve as a lesson to the leaders of big and powerful nations, to appreciate the life of every person or animal in every corner of the world. War is so scary, I hope there is no war - Google translate - probably near enough.
>> The target were not choices of military importance, but rather of historical importance.
Let me give you reasons why Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen as targets and why Tokyo was not chosen.
(1) Tokyo could be the number one target for many reasons because it was the capital city where Hirohito was residing. It could cause the biggest impact on the Japanese military and civilians. But in terms of military perspectives, Tokyo had little importance than H & N.
That's why Tokyo was not chosen.
Old School and remember, Nagasaki was the secondary target that day, the primary target was clouded in.
Hiroshima is the same line of longitude as the British Tests almost 20 years later....which is the same line of longitude that incurred the tilt of the axis....sus the bottom of South America on Google Earth. Can you work it out from there?
What a night
Parameter of science
True, but from what i read, the japanese were nowhere near of finishing their A-bomb, and the reasons for the bombing of H&N had nothing to do with it.
True, but from what i read, the japanese were nowhere near of finishing their A-bomb, and the reasons for the bombing of H&N had nothing to do with it.
Wayne Patterson --- Fasle statements. The Americans did not know how far the Japanese atomic bomb research and development had progressed, but they correctly suspected the Japanese were not yet ready to deploy atomic bombs. Nevetheless, the Americans knew full well that Japan produced and used biological weapons in China, conducted an aerial bombardment campaign against North America with balloon bombs, and had use seaplane carrier submarines against targets in the Continental United States. The Americans suspected but did not know that Japan produced a capability to attack the Continental United States with atomic bombs and/or biological weapons with the world's largest submarines in 1945 once such weapons became available for use. The Americans only knew there was a risk of Japanese use of weapons of mass destruction the longer the war continued and the more desperate the Japanese leadership became to produce and use weapons of mass destruction to change the course of the war.
Actuall opethian were not just going to allow japan to drop a bomb were going to strike back.Yes it was two bombs and we needed this war to end and so we did.
Still scares me
>> But Hiroshima was a civilian city.
I already showed that both Hiroshima was a city with many military bases and facilities. Do you need the sources? Let me know.
so how many japanese military personnel were killed in both bombings then.?
A music at the start only a mouse loves
The city of New York had a harbor that hosted and still hosts naval vessels. That's about it. Had no big army stations or bases. Had no ordinace factories.
A very wrong comparisn, kid.
The Japanese militaries were making desperate actions, they realized that they were going to lose the war. They knew it, they just didn't want to accept it. The thing is, when a nation is over the edge, sooner or later she would give up. But the american government didn't leave time for japan to fall apart, they saw an opportunity to test both of their bombs and the japaneses resistence gave them a excelent excuse.
How did they clean it up, rebuild, and move people back? Russia's nuclear disaster will not get cleaned up ?
How did they clean it up, rebuild, and move people back? Russia's nuclear disaster will not get cleaned up ?
Wayne Patterson --- There was only a very inconsequential amount of radioactive contamination from the nuclear reaction and the radioactive fallout. The atomic bombs detonated well above the ground as an airburst with only a small amount of the fireball at the hypocenter making contact with the material on the ground. Given the very small amounts of fissionable radioactive fuel in the bombs and the minimal amount of radioactive nucleotides produced from contact with the ground, the amount of residual radiation produced was only slightly raised above the normal background levels of radiation. So, the radioactive contamination was too small to produce any deaths or injuries due to exposure to residual radiation. Also, the radioactive isotopes produced by the atomic bombs were types which decayed into non-radioactive isotopes within seconds to 2 to 3 days. All radiation sickness was due to the direct exposure to the radiation emanating only from the initial nuclear detonation. The Chernobyl nuclear disaster was far more devastating due to the vastly larger amount of radioactive nuclear fuel, due to the huge amounts of radioactive nucleotides generated by direct contact with the material in the ground, and due to the radioactive isotopes being of more dangerous types with half lives measured in centuries and millennia instead of fractions of a second, seconds, hours, and days produced by the atomic bombs. When compared to later nuclear weapons which have extensive contact with the ground, more dangerous types of radioactive byproducts in greater amounts, and vastly longer half life decay periods or nuclear reactor meltdowns, the atomic bombs used to attack Japan are about the cleanest nuclear weapons you could ever find with respect to residual radioactive contaminants.
so sad
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After seeing what the Japanese did in Nanking 1937, I don't feel sad for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Pearl Harbor was NOT unprovoked. You need to learn your history. US imposed sanctions against Japan, blocking the trade of scrap metal and oil. Sanctions are an act of war, how do you think America would react if a country blocked its own oil imports? The US knew they were provoking Japan, war was inevitable.
I am glad the US dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. After seeing what Japan did in Nanking 1937 how could I feel sorry for the Japanese?
@Time to make Changes Justification for dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Nanking 1937! That's the justification.
I can show you the source of my argument. Can you show me a source that support you empty words?
Well... This time around we be able to see the devastation in color.
The effect of the atomic bombs was they ended the war.
ended the war with japan which was primarily an american war and had nothing to do with the uk and other allies..this was pure vengeance for pearl harbour which dragged the yanks into the war...the americans couldn't give a stuff about other nations until their own backyard gets attacked.
in debts still
At 18:29, we can see rails that have buckled (become wavy) under some force. This is an effect associated with earthquakes, not any kind of bombs. The photo shown (and many more) are likely from the great Kobe earthquake of 1923.
An atomic bomb is an earthquake.
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life's tuff in the big city, especially the the city disappears, lol.
Lol? For real..? You have so little empathy that the dropping of the atomic bomb provides lol's ?
And?
^^ do you guys still believe in the atomic bomb?
The Hiroshima bomb is puny compared to what we have today.
look at what the soviet union dropped in 1961...indeed the soviets have always been ahead of the americans in terms of nuclear science.
a lot of people die.woman and baby too.
Nanking
@@thebanfflocal2366 And: Korea, Philippines
Y big America not fight in battle with Japan ? At that time
A short answer: the veterans I knew said something like, "I was sure glad I didn't have to fight on Japanese soil. It would have been a bloodbath." That's a bloodbath for the invaders as well as the Japanese, who were prepared to die defending their land.
Besides, what evidence says it's okey to nuke two city? Since this brings a moral point of view, any kind of "evidence" is just an opinion.
If you can't think in an abstract way, than return to your life, and focus on the easy subjects that does not require much thinking.
Christian more people died in the bombing of Hamburg than did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. The use of one bomb put the US at a very distinct advantage. It showed it could bring the entire empire of Japan to a complete end. One city after another, and the emperor did not want that for his people. The US did not have any other a bombs available after fat boy was dropped, and it would have reverted to fire bombing again
Christian The reality is, this is war. There are no moral ethics in war; anybody who thinks that is just kidding themselves. The United States did in fact take the moral high ground. Not using the bomb would’ve resulted in millions dead instead of a few hundred thousand.
The Japanese were ferocious and they were willing to die. That strengthen their resolve to fight because they had nothing to lose. What was going to stop them?
@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 --- The US did not have any other a bombs available after fat boy was dropped, and it would have reverted to fire bombing again
Wayne Patterson === You're mistaken. The next Mark III atomic bomb was scheduled for a combat mission on or about 20 August 1945. Then about three Mark III atomic bombs in September 1945 followed by more each month for a total of about two dozen or more Mark III atomic bombs in 1945 with more in 1946.
The general effect is America will do anything to win
...and payback for Pearl Harbour sucks...doesn't it?
@@ChadLuciano Not really. They advances more than America. Plus, we got anime
@@mrarnold96 Nah...that aint right...I smell communist troll filth here.
Very convincing and touching with empty logic and sources.
Byes.
Japanese planes had no problem shooting at civilians women and children when they attacked pearl harbor so turnaround is fair play
You are brainwashed by war propaganda to control the mass.
@@hayek218 expand.
I never looked upon the slaughter of non-combatants, including old men, children, and pregnant women, with minimal damage to the Japanese military presence as “play”. As for Nagasaki, the Americans vaporized the Vatican of the Far East, with the greatest catholic presence in East Asia.
The Japanese felt no pity for over 300,000 civilians killed in Nanking 1937, by bayonetting, burning alive, burying alive, shooting, beheading. And don't forget the raping. Why should anyone feel sorry for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
@@michaelbrock1392 What about the bestial brutality the Japanese showed in Nanking 1937?
>> Yet, the moral on the japanese side was very weakened.
Maybe or may not. Either way, they were ready to fight and die to the end in the main island of Japan, which was clearly demonstrated ib Okinawa.
Blame the gambler who gambled it anyways from the begining.
This is a moral debate, regarding the action took by your government regarding warcrimes during world war II, all you've done until now is pointing me that japanese goverment wasn't exactly a saint, but you lack to understanding that it is not related to the subject. No nation go to war and is a saint, but there are some actions worst than others (Do you need help from an evidence to understand such a simple concept?), targeting civilians deliberately is a warcrime.
It's called War....who said there are any rules you're sitting at home all safe because of the Brave Americans who died for you you maggot why aren't you thinking of them and their families
The Japanese targeted ONLY civilians in Nanking 1937, and don't feel sorry. Why feel sorry about Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
After the event, it is easy to make judgments.
This is a moral debate, regarding the action took by your government regarding warcrimes during world war II, all you've done until now is pointing me that japanese goverment wasn't exactly a saint, but you lack to understanding that it is not related to the subject. No nation go to war and is a saint, but there are some actions worst than others (Do you need help from an evidence to understand such a simple concept?), targeting civilians deliberately is a warcrime.
Wayne Patterson --- That is a totally false accusation. The atomic bomb attacks were not war crimes. The atomic bombs forcibly stopped war crimes.
Shoulda saved both for a DoubleActionBonusPack for Tokyo.
Game Over.
Next stop.... MECCA.
Hes full
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Look upon the damage of two tiny bombs (15 & 25 kt), think of Chernobyl, and imagine a nuclear war of over 31,000 US weapons plus a 40,000 megaton USSR arsenal. The worse the war, the worse the weapons. Hitler's "Uranium bomb", his aggression, and Japan's aggression caused this, worse damage by conventional warfare, a 50 year occupation, and a decades long terrifying Cold War. Japan came close to being occupied by the USSR. Attacks on China, Korea, the United States, and others by generals and an emperor caused incredible death and destruction to the population while they survived without a scratch. An economy based on conquest can not sustain itself. Where would they be had they pursued peace? Those who point an arrogant self righteous finger learn nothing. Your present day actions affect the unborn.
The destruction of civilization as we know it, and perhaps our entire species, is sitting right now in the White House. Add the one in the Kremlin, in Beijing, and North Korea, and this is the last generation.....the cockroaches, scorpions, and other toxic, irradiated species shall inherit the Earth, as the legacy our political leaders are planning for our children.
The Hiroshima bomb was i thought around 20kt, and the photographic history of the aftermath suggests it did not fully go critical mass, looks like a small fizzle occured.
I was talking about kyoto but nvm.
All right, lets end this conversation, since none of us is getting anywere.
My reproachs to the U.S. government are:
-Target was civilian more than militaries
-Cheap excuse
-An obvious ocasion to test a nuclear weapon on living subject
-Massive deaths + radioact.
I also reproach the U.S. citizens to act like if it was no big deal or as if it was justified.
A war crime is a war crime, don't over abuse your defence mechanisms because it doesn't change the facts.
+Christian ---- "My reproachs to the U.S. government are:
-Target was civilian more than militaries" Hiroshima was the headquarters for the Second General Army and an assortment of subordinate major military commands, and they were responsible for the defense of Western and Southern Japan during the OPERATION OLYMPIC invasions of Kyushu scheduled for 1 November 1945. There is a very long list of military installations and facilities interspersed among the private homes throughout the city. It was not possible to attack the military facilities without destroying the adjoining private homes and businesses. Something on the order of one in five private homes housed machine tools and manufacturing facilities for the production of small arms, parts, equipment, and supplies desperately needed to arm the 900,000 Japanese regular soldiers being assembled on Kyushu to oppose the correctly anticipated American invasions. The Americans incorrectly estimate around 362,000 Japanese troops, and then revised the number to around 600,000 Japanese troops. They estimated wrong, because it was discovered after the end of the war there were to be 900,000 Japanese troops. Nagasaki was located on Kyushu and was another major supplier of a wide range of very critical weaponry. Nine out of ten men, women, and children were workers in these military arsenals producing major weapons of war. Nagasaki's arsenals produced the torpedoes that sank the U.S. Navy battleships during the sneak attack upon Pearl Harbor, the cruisers at Guadalcanal, and the U.S.S. Indiana after it delivered the Little Boy atomic bomb core and assemblies to Tinian. Nagasaki produced the super-battleship Musashi and the ship which became the aircraft carrier Kaiyo. It was busily producing the torpedoes and components for the midget submarine being prepared to sink the military transport ships and landing craft along with tens of thousands of American soldiers, Marines, and sailors during OPERATION OLYMPIC and OPERATION CORONET. I no way were these cities "civilian more than militaries"
It must also be observed that the atomic bombs did not kill any person who evacuated Hiroshima and Nagasaki as they were obligated to do so by the Laws of War after the enemy delivered the required warning to evacuate a city before the announced bombardment of that defended city. About one-third of Hiroshima's population and about one-quarter of Nagasaki's population evacuated those cities in accordance with the warnings about the impending attacks upon those cities. The Japanese Government was conscripting, arming, and training every able bodied adult and many children to serve as combatants in the Volunteer Corps. Consequently, the regular soldiers, Volunteer Corps conscripts, and military-industrial workers were combatants and lawful targets of military attacks. What few noncombatants that remained in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in disregard of the warnings of enemy bombardment assumed the risks of injury and death associated with remaining in proximity to the military targets under enemy bombardments.
+Christian ----- "Cheap excuse"
Your remark is a false, dishonorable, and cheap accusation.
+Christian ------ "An obvious ocasion to test a nuclear weapon on living subject"
Military necessity was reason for using the atomic bombs as the method of compelling Japan to end its war with the least cost in Allied and Japanese lives. Once the decision was made that the military necessity existed, it would have been irresponsible to neglect the investigation and reporting of the effects of such weapons. In less than a year later, the United States used those same reports of the effects of atomic bombs to propose and urge the adoption of an international treaty and organization under the authority of the United Nations to prohibit nuclear weapons, prohibit other weapons of mass destruction, and establish control of all nuclear research and production activities. Stalin and the Soviet Union refused to cooperate and allow such an international disarmament of weapons of mass destruction.
+Christian ------- "Massive deaths + radioact."
That remark or yours is monumentally hypocritical. You object to the deaths of what was likely to be less than 200,000 people, the great majority of whom were combatants and lawfully subject to attack and being killed. Based upon the rates of casualties already experienced in the battles at Tarawa, Saipan, Peleliu, Manila, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa; it was to be expected that perhaps 50 percent to more than 90 percent of the Japanese people would be killed by any combination of air bombardments, naval blockade, and/or invasions of the Home Islands. Such a catastrophe would have resulted in the deaths of something on the order of perhaps 50 million to 80 million Japanese people. The exchange death rate on Okinawa had reached a 6:1 ratio of Japanese versus Americans. So, 1 million to 10 million American deaths is not unreasonable to anticipate in the event such an exchange rate in lives remained valid. You object to the deaths of 200,000 Japanese people who were mostly combatants, yet you express no concern whatsoever for the 123,000 Allied prisoners of war and civilian internees the Japanese Imperial Headquarters had ordered to be murdered and their corpses burned to hide the evidence beginning on 17-18 August 1945 or earlier. The use of the atomic bombs that killed the 200,000 Japanese combatants and noncombatants who failed to evacuate also saved the 123,000 Allied lives the Japanese were about to murder by gruesome means (including burning women and children alive in their palm log huts). You also show a complete and hypocritical lack of regard or interest in the deaths of countless thousands of noncombatants being gruesomely murdered by the Japanese every day and week the war continued.
You also show no concern for the safety of the people the Japanese were preparing to attack with biological weapons. Japan had already killed upwards of 500,000 people in China with biological weapons spreading dangerous diseases. The atomic bombs and end of the war in August 1945 halted the Japanese plans to attack San Diego and other cities in the Continental United States beginning on 22 September 1945 with biological weapons launched from their I-400 Class submarines, which were originally designed and built to deliver the Japanese atomic bombs that were not completed in time.
+Christian ------- "I also reproach the U.S. citizens to act like if it was no big deal or as if it was justified."
We reproach you for demonstrating a dangerous degree of ignorance and neglect of history, and your ignorant repetition of disinformation to incite hatred.
+Christian ------- "A war crime is a war crime, don't over abuse your defence mechanisms because it doesn't change the facts."
The Japanese use of women and children as combatants and to shield their military targets may be another of their war crimes. The American use of the atomic bombs to attack the military targets in Hiroshima and Nagasaki after giving the required and appropriate warnings of the air bombardments were most definitely not war crimes, and that is a fact corroborated by the International Military Tribunal (IMT) and the International Court of Justice (ICJ). Your accusation and false assertion is a baseless smear and not a fact.
How many people died from radiation later?
"how do you think America would react if a country blocked its own oil imports?" *Cough* War on terror *Cough*. Oh and timbum1000, Look up human testing in Japan, and 9/11 debunked. Thank you, have a nice day.
The USA was in the position of nuking its enemies at the end of the war and in Korea, but they did not do so. The USA was caught up in the terrible aftermath of centuries of colonialism in South East Asia, a war it didn't wish, as was shown by internal protests. The USA is a nation which is very vulnerable to manipulation by older nations, but in the larger view, it's strength is that it is made up from those who are from every nation. The US Government even has the power to govern capitalism, which it has demonstrated on many occasions. The USA is as flawed as it's people, but it is still a cut above the rest when it comes to basic honesty, ironically, the very thing that makes it so vulnerable.
Japan showed it's clear disregard for the citizens of China in the 30's, so that is just the way history has always been, we are stuck with wars until we grow up. Iran wants a nuclear conflict, it is a part of fundamental Islamic doctrine to eliminate all infidels. War has always been a conflict between one 'master race' or another.
I have two words..
Pearl Harbor.
I have two words: Nanking 1937.
@@smithpeter3629 Naughty trick; a word and some numbers :) Bojangles wins. I have three words.
"What was that?"
Said by the Mayor of Hiroshima.
Understand that even after a 2ND bomb, they STILL did not surrender right away.. and even was poised to illicit a THIRD A bomb
Japan was crazy drunk at this time. Much worse than Germany
While Japan only attacked military targets USA attacked civilians, is not that war crime?
No...what was Pearl Harbour? Lots of American civilians there.
Well, They need to pay for the Innocent civilians Japan Had Brutality tortured.
They Were lucky, They died in less than 10 seconds, That's better than Being tortured for days.
@@Knee_Ghast if usa does something always Is fine but if someone dare to do the same they are criminals
@@MrDario1971 Criminals are the one who started it, Let Karma Hit them.
Karma is still active Until today, Tsunamis, Earthquakes, Etc...
Japan didn't pay, instead They are hiding it, and calling it Propaganda, These disasters will never stop until Japan is really sorry
@@Knee_Ghast if karma Is real then they should suffer 2 atomics blast on they territory
Don't be a hypocrite, you're only lying to yourself.
Goodbye to you.
>> Don't be a hypocrite, you're only lying to yourself.
Unlike you, I don't say things based on a pure conjecture or imagination. I can give sources of my comments anytime. If you want to continue this debate, provide me with sources that support your arguments. That way, I can understand what you are saying.
That's how I teach my son, and that's how they teach kids at school.
I gotta go now.
Wish you a good luck in your search for any justifications for Japan and sources for blaming the US as the biggest terrorrist.
learn to speak English...... the the word is Justification,, why do people like you put an s where it doesn't belong and no s where there should be one........ emerikinizatiun
@@4june9140 ooooo. An "S" Nazi!! Now THATS uptight! Can you make coal with your sphincter?
@@4june9140 I thought it was Xtian's who write evidence(s) for their mythology where there are only claims and no evidence(s).
I see, your not American so your upset by what I said even though it's facts.. that's okay. not going to argue or debate over CZcams.. and I'm not even American nor dumb "my friend" I have a bachelors in history and education. so next time get the facts before you speak.. good bye "my friend"...
You got you Bachelors by default sonny.... its worth nothing because you learned nothing. The Facts about this disgusting episode including emerikan complicity in Pearl Harbour is well known had been in the public domain for a long time.
SHAME ON YOU TRUMAN!!
Shame on You, just being communist.
Go back to your shithole.... STFU.
@@kennethkustren9381 LoL 🤣😂
truman was a war monger like most yank leaders are...they were late to the party on both occasions and claim sole victory as theirs...!!..quite pathetic actually.