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  • The Cold War prompted science fiction to take a turn from the darkness of humanity, to the end of humanity itself. Earth Abides is a keystone novel at this turning point, exploring the viewpoint of a lost hiker who returns to his California residence to find that humanity is gone... and yet, is rebuilding.
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Komentáře • 398

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před 5 lety +364

    Earth Abides revolves around humankind nearly being wiped out not by atomics, but by
    plague. It brings in to sci-fi the post-war question of whether an ever increasing human population is truly sustainable. But perhaps more important to the history of sci-fi, it’ll ask a question that is almost a cliché in science
    fiction today, but was nearly unexplored at the time: the question of how you rebuild after a collapse.

    • @afishwithagun2190
      @afishwithagun2190 Před 5 lety +1

      👌

    • @tobigrussia1372
      @tobigrussia1372 Před 5 lety +3

      METRO 2033 BOIS!!!!!!

    • @maxfieldjoyner5244
      @maxfieldjoyner5244 Před 5 lety +3

      Extra Credits WHEN WILL YOU DO FALLOUT??

    • @floydkirk6783
      @floydkirk6783 Před 5 lety +7

      Um I have a question what books are you all going to be covering because in a little more than a month I will be in basic training and I won't be able to watch the videos but I want to be able to read them when I do have time. If you don't respond I understand and I just wish you all have a good summer

    • @aeronevalerio789
      @aeronevalerio789 Před 5 lety +1

      Hey @Extra Credits can you make an extra history episode about the Philippine revolution and General Antonio Luna

  • @HandmadeGoose97
    @HandmadeGoose97 Před 5 lety +739

    This series really ties the channel together

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Před 5 lety +77

      I'm really glad you think so! I love doing this series so I'm always sad to see that it gets way less viewership than everything else.
      -James Portnow

    • @rachaelconners6496
      @rachaelconners6496 Před 5 lety +9

      It's the least?! But I love the sci fi episodes!

    • @torabisurandomT
      @torabisurandomT Před 5 lety

      *general perfrence is to give to people than media (oops with messaging)

    • @torabisurandomT
      @torabisurandomT Před 5 lety

      Like it's hard to use the scientific model here, in that unlike a game here on youtube you're unable to pause and try out another possiblity; like in extra poltics conclusion noting how policy & poltical design has to be implemented while playing the political game; not that it's impossible or fruitless using the scientific method, quite the opposite, but there's limitations. Hence I guess the combination of methods and the faith we're able to learn & master the system

    • @alexandersteiner213
      @alexandersteiner213 Před 5 lety +3

      Ha, I see what you did there. I like your style, dude.

  • @alexcarter8807
    @alexcarter8807 Před 4 lety +61

    Here's a mind-blower: I grew up hearing about how the Indians up in the Andes were primitive because they never invented the wheel. Well it turns out they never *needed* to.

    • @orkkojit
      @orkkojit Před 2 lety +8

      Necessity is the mother of invention

  • @Googledeservestodie
    @Googledeservestodie Před 5 lety +447

    "Life uh, finds a way." -Dr. Ian Malcolm

  • @JeremiahNanninga09
    @JeremiahNanninga09 Před 5 lety +221

    I'm enjoying the implication that Robert Walpole causes the Apocalypse.

    • @mygills3050
      @mygills3050 Před 2 lety +4

      Robert walpole is guilty for everything

  • @silvertheelf
    @silvertheelf Před 5 lety +123

    Tribe = beginning of city
    Stone = beginning of technology
    Primitive knowledge = beginning of advanced knowledge
    History = future

  • @Crosis101
    @Crosis101 Před 5 lety +116

    And the message came, “ ALAS, BABYLON”! and The Postman rose into the thousand year night, and the vultures feasted that season.

  • @patrickblanchette4337
    @patrickblanchette4337 Před 5 lety +72

    For a post-apocalyptic story, Earth Abides is very optimistic!

    • @pifilixxiv3192
      @pifilixxiv3192 Před 5 lety +7

      yeah... makes me think of wanting to make a game alike this book

    • @RoyalFusilier
      @RoyalFusilier Před 5 lety +13

      Early entries into what they make a huge genre are often unlike what comes after. Like, a lot of apocalypses are content to stay in stage 1 forever, the immediate survival, and just not move on to see how things change or rebuild.

    • @Pandor18
      @Pandor18 Před 2 lety +2

      It´s known as Cosy Catastrophe

  • @billytrespassers3123
    @billytrespassers3123 Před 5 lety +229

    "You can call me the Earth or His Earthness or El Eartharino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

  • @mystuff9999
    @mystuff9999 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I stumbled across this book in my father‘s library in July 2020. As a non-native speaker it caught my attention because I couldn’t get its title to make sense at first. Read it in full that same day. Even though I would say there‘s actually not that much happening in the book I have seldom read a book that has gripped me as much…

  • @gargoyles9999
    @gargoyles9999 Před 5 lety +77

    Earth: Yeah well,that's just, like your opinion man.

  • @AllSeeingEy3
    @AllSeeingEy3 Před 5 lety +249

    PostApocalyptia will be lost if they fail to remember the lessons of Walpole...

    • @greenland5206
      @greenland5206 Před 5 lety +12

      Religion centered around Walpole?

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Před 5 lety +4

      He always has a plan?

    • @frankharr9466
      @frankharr9466 Před 5 lety +10

      @@barrybend7189 "He always has a plan?"
      That was Bismark.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 Před 5 lety +1

      @@frankharr9466 Wapole is the executioner of the plans and witness to all events.

    • @frankharr9466
      @frankharr9466 Před 5 lety +4

      @@artofthepossible7329 "Wapole is the executioner of the plans and witness to all events."
      Walpole does things. But Bismark is the one who always has a plan, even if it's to wait until better odds.

  • @psycologo121
    @psycologo121 Před 5 lety +166

    I love Fallout, so I am always interested in learning where all the ideas got their start.

    • @matthewclark703
      @matthewclark703 Před 5 lety +9

      i always know that war, war never changes

    • @wanderingrandomer
      @wanderingrandomer Před 5 lety +11

      @@GoggleDumb This is primarily a channel about video games, though.

  • @50TNCSA
    @50TNCSA Před 4 lety +12

    Watching this in the pandemic of 2020 scary man scary

  • @commmander64
    @commmander64 Před 5 lety +15

    3:28 that is literally a concept I never heard of today. I need more of that very untouched idea.

  • @rbdriftin
    @rbdriftin Před 5 lety +16

    Earth Abides is one of my all-time favourite novels. Just gorgeous.

  • @IchigoGyuunyu
    @IchigoGyuunyu Před 5 lety +71

    I'd be curious to see you cover "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" if ya wanna get really bleak.

  • @chickensforthechickengod9337

    Extra credits vid?
    *[surprised picka-*
    Wait oh god no PIKACHU NOOOOOOOO

  • @kaydenvera6804
    @kaydenvera6804 Před 5 lety +4

    Knowing our problems with Linear A I fear that not teaching a generation about reading or writing would somehow make everyone forget the english alphabet.

  • @arturowagner4728
    @arturowagner4728 Před 5 lety +32

    Great video. Pretty much the exact same thing happened during the Bronze age collapse and the Fall of the western Roman empire...

    • @donaldobrien9171
      @donaldobrien9171 Před 3 měsíci

      but today all the metal ores are poor quality, and the fossil fuels are hard to get. rebooting technological civilization will not happen.
      the utube channel fall of civilizations has many excellent videos on this subject

  • @djfoof3518
    @djfoof3518 Před 5 lety +132

    Rats be like:*SNAP*

  • @dennisb0019
    @dennisb0019 Před 5 lety +66

    Please do “A Canticle for Leibowitz”

  • @superriley1093
    @superriley1093 Před 4 lety +9

    This is scarily relevent now

  • @ScoffMathews
    @ScoffMathews Před 5 lety +8

    I like all of your series, but extra sci-fi is by far my favorite and the one that inspires me to read all of the books.

  • @DetectiveThursday
    @DetectiveThursday Před 5 lety +7

    Which segues most likely into the next book they ought cover, "A Canticle For Leibowitz" in which all the optimism and hopes at the end of this book are dashed, because war, war never changes.

  • @hiddenhist
    @hiddenhist Před 5 lety +8

    I’m amazed at how many good videos you all have been able to make from this series on science fiction!!!

  • @hcolli
    @hcolli Před 5 lety +69

    Sounds a lot like Horizon Zero and some of those conflicts. Pretty cool, thanks y'all!

    • @PoorMuttski
      @PoorMuttski Před 5 lety +1

      I was about to post the exact same thing. I wonder if they read the book?

  • @Haseri8
    @Haseri8 Před 5 lety +15

    Part of me would love an Extra Literature series, spinning off from the Jane Austen Extra History episode

  • @japeking1
    @japeking1 Před 5 lety +12

    According to "A Canticle for Leibowitz" ( Walter Millar) , next time round will probably be worse.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Před 5 lety +3

    "Three cars in every garage! Three eyes on every fish!"

  • @Icecap13
    @Icecap13 Před 4 lety +4

    Imagine clicking on the video and hearing that people died of a NEW plague....during Covid-19
    🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @Cosmic_889
    @Cosmic_889 Před 5 lety +38

    Mate am loving the art style, really nice visual

  • @elimartin3982
    @elimartin3982 Před 4 lety +7

    Well, this aged well

    • @Yourlocalanglosaxon
      @Yourlocalanglosaxon Před 3 lety

      God imagine that happening though a plague decimated the world that would be scary

  • @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
    @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 Před 4 lety +10

    Covid 19 has entered the chat.

  • @tonysladky8925
    @tonysladky8925 Před 5 lety +6

    I'll echo the voices telling you to do A Canticle for Liebowitz.
    But also, once you get out of the dystopia and post-apocalyptic kick and are open to just doing general sci-fi, Mary Doria Russell's "The Sparrow" could easily fuel a few videos.

  • @reignrevival2689
    @reignrevival2689 Před 4 lety +4

    Honestly I got the majority of the books featured in this series and Earth Abides was pretty low on my list, however after reading it's at the top of that list and even being one of my favorite books of all time.

  • @robertgronewold3326
    @robertgronewold3326 Před 5 lety +15

    I am assuming we'll soon be hearing about "Alas Babylon".

  • @lordsirdragor
    @lordsirdragor Před 5 lety +4

    Probably my all time favorite fiction novel.

  • @christiebailey1479
    @christiebailey1479 Před 5 lety +63

    Man, now I want to see them do a video on Fallout.
    Probably will never come but oh well.

    • @Passance
      @Passance Před 5 lety +5

      Fallout is a common example I bring up when I'm describing games as art. None of the installments are by any measure perfect games, nor are they personal favourites of mine. But how they use the medium to convey their unique message of an iconic problem is a perfect example of games as an art form and I love to talk about them. So don't get me started, heh.

  • @yaumelepire6310
    @yaumelepire6310 Před 5 lety +4

    Well that’s pretty much the most hopeful message you can get out of a post-apocalypse!

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 Před 5 lety +46

    "I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but I know that the next world war will be fought with sticks and rocks."
    Albert Einstein
    EDIT: Also you cannot talk about the Apocalypse genre without doing A Canticle for Leibowitz guys. I'll be really disappointed if you guys never touch on Canticle.

    • @jamesstewart3856
      @jamesstewart3856 Před 5 lety +6

      Canticle is 100% on of the top 10 apocalypse novels, if not top 3

    • @gargoyles9999
      @gargoyles9999 Před 5 lety

      Geoff F. True, but they'll fight WW5 with MIND POWERS

  • @Monarchist123
    @Monarchist123 Před 5 lety +28

    You are my favorite CZcams

    • @TrainerGre3n
      @TrainerGre3n Před 5 lety +5

      CZcams is my favorite youtube too

    • @ez4ed885
      @ez4ed885 Před 5 lety

      Nate Kammerer thanks, really cheered me up seeing this

  • @ResonantLive_
    @ResonantLive_ Před 5 lety +8

    Actually one of my favourite books!

  • @herkles1
    @herkles1 Před 5 lety +8

    *crosses fingers* I hope they cover A Canticle for Leibowitz next :)

  • @nicksmith8293
    @nicksmith8293 Před 5 lety +5

    Stage 2: exist
    Me:plays rdr2’s house building theme

  • @stifflermclovin
    @stifflermclovin Před 4 lety +2

    This story is so similar to Jack London's The Scarlet Plague written in 1912!

  • @youronlinegirlfriend5508
    @youronlinegirlfriend5508 Před 5 lety +5

    With this dystopian trend being featured, we will reveiw harlan ellisons "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream"?

  • @zhubajie6940
    @zhubajie6940 Před 5 lety +8

    "The Earth Abides" (George Stewart), "Alas, Babylon" (Pat Frank) and Canticle for Liebowitz (Walter Miller whose daughter I know) are my favorites. So much better than Mad Max crap or any other Apocalypse pablum (zombies, etc.) Hollywood pumps out today. This tradition actually goes back to Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley's "Last Man" that you should have mentioned.

  • @_gamma.
    @_gamma. Před 5 lety +1

    This has been one of my favorite books since high school, great little video!

  • @brockmckelvey7327
    @brockmckelvey7327 Před 5 lety +2

    PLAYER PIANO!!!! I love that book!

  • @UGMD
    @UGMD Před 5 lety +26

    What have you done to pikachu!?!

  • @peterkershaw11
    @peterkershaw11 Před 5 lety +11

    From what I'm seeing, Earth Abides is almost like an opposite to H.G. Well's The Time Machine. Main character jumps forward in time, in Earth Abides by nature, in The Time machine by science, finds a completely different world than before, an apocalypse and an utopia respectively, the people there have changed with either human instincts or ignorant bliss. And how the world left behind is regarded in both books makes an interesting comparison. While in Earth Abides, it's told but never preserved, and in The Time Machine it's preserved but never told.
    …I love being a sci-fi nerd.

    • @FaoladhTV
      @FaoladhTV Před 5 lety +2

      The Time Machine was by Wells, not Verne, and it's hard to consider many of its ideas as depicting any kind of a utopia. It's more about evolution than utopias, and presented a satirical look at the problems of the social hierarchy of England at the time.

  • @bussyenjoyer6933
    @bussyenjoyer6933 Před 5 lety +6

    You guys should do the graphic novel, "V for Vendetta".

  • @isaacthek
    @isaacthek Před 5 lety +32

    Anyone else thought the title was an oblique reference to The Great Lebowski? I feel like a philistine ...

    • @gmosphere
      @gmosphere Před 4 lety

      Men go and come but the Dude abides.

    • @jeric_synergy8581
      @jeric_synergy8581 Před 4 lety

      Right, because the author was a time traveler. ::eyeroll::

  • @arthurphillips4870
    @arthurphillips4870 Před 5 lety +1

    Hoping one of those books that deals with Nuclear Annhilarion is “A Cantacle for Liebowitz.”

  • @Nordicscholar
    @Nordicscholar Před 5 lety +4

    That feel when you go "I read that book!" during the intro. Feels well red man.

  • @soup5981
    @soup5981 Před 5 lety +2

    It’s also fascinating how British rock during the Beatles era transforms into Ozzy Osborn and Sex Pistols as the Cold War went on. The British managed their fear of nuclear destruction with pop rock and then with metal.

  • @elephant3109
    @elephant3109 Před 5 lety +4

    i know, few will care to notice, but the extra sci fi theme's made by the same guys who made the steven universe soundtracks.
    just a thought to think about

  • @ewfisher89
    @ewfisher89 Před 5 lety +2

    I can definitely see the influence this work had on my favorite post-apocalyptic series of novels, William W. Johnstone's "The Ashes" series. Book one closely follows stage 1 (traveling and documenting events after sleeping through WWIII after being swarmed by bees) and 2 (builds a functional society that works for those who choose to follow the very simple and fair laws), but takes a turn as our main character Ben Raines (a retired special forces soldier and author) leads his followers around the world kicking the shit out of those who prey on the weak and helpless and bringing order and stability. I'm on I believe book 15 out of I think 30-33. Certainly not too thought provoking, but just a simple fun read.

  • @rickimaru915
    @rickimaru915 Před 5 lety +1

    Seems like Metro Exodus took some ideas from this story. There’s a section where you enter a forest full of young and somewhat childlike people who co-exist with nature. Turns out that they’re from a children’s camp in the forest and they revere their (now dead) teacher who protected and taught them.

  • @rexrivers2220
    @rexrivers2220 Před 5 lety +42

    I was hoping for a zombie apocalypse not a government apocalypse

    • @hudsondunn8385
      @hudsondunn8385 Před 5 lety +9

      Senator echo winter
      What’s the difference

  • @Passance
    @Passance Před 5 lety +1

    Inflection point. Wickedly accurate choice of words.

  • @andrewmelnikov292
    @andrewmelnikov292 Před 4 lety +2

    Love the series.
    Gradual reintroduction of technology can be seen in the end of Babylon 5 where a post-apocalyptic mankind is slowly nurtured back to normal by its space survivors.
    And in many fiction works we see how "speeding up the progress" can either not work at all or go horribly wrong. Moreover, some of the more modern Sci-fi (like Star Trek) introduce some social rules directly prohibiting intervention into alien progress because it can have bad and hard-to-foresee consequences.

  • @cuniving7831
    @cuniving7831 Před 5 lety +1

    The protagonist and his wife has to be one of the earliest examples of a positive interracial relationship in relatively mainstream media that I can think of in America during that era.

  • @MrJJBhizzle
    @MrJJBhizzle Před 5 lety +2

    I have never seen a Apocalyptic world book, even 1984, treated with more reverence by people outside the niche market for these books, than Earth Abides. Grandma said it's literature, and THAT'S saying something! XD

  • @naibleron456
    @naibleron456 Před 3 lety +5

    Well, that aged well.

  • @Cramhead43
    @Cramhead43 Před rokem

    THE DUDE ABIDES. god i love the big lebowski 0:19

  • @DD8842
    @DD8842 Před 5 lety

    I drive a lot for work and I'm taking a second to say I have found a few audio books I enjoy from this channel. Just giving props where it's due.

  • @FeralLogic
    @FeralLogic Před 5 lety +2

    I think that deep down, instinctively, we understand we are too many and we have made life in the world complex - thus the appeal for a great reduction in and simplification of who and what we are appeals to us.

  • @thomassmith8741
    @thomassmith8741 Před 2 lety +2

    This is haunting today

  • @michaellewis1545
    @michaellewis1545 Před 5 lety +10

    Cue the Fallout reference.

  • @irishcat318
    @irishcat318 Před 5 lety +1

    You guys make my day everyday!

  • @lashropa
    @lashropa Před 5 lety

    Earth Abides! I've never met anyone else that knows this one. Nice. I think about Ish & Em every time I cross the bay bridge.

  • @Rocketboy1313
    @Rocketboy1313 Před 5 lety

    This book has been on my Audible wish list for 2 years now.
    The list never seems to get shorter.

  • @AntonAdelson
    @AntonAdelson Před 5 lety +1

    "Perhaps, this is a better FOUNDATION to start again."
    I think I know what you did there!

  • @MashZ
    @MashZ Před 5 lety +3

    Pikachu looks different than I remember!

  • @vinegar...
    @vinegar... Před 5 lety +2

    Reminder that Splatoon is a post-apocalyptic shooter game.

  • @kylestacks7197
    @kylestacks7197 Před 3 lety

    Thanks to my uncle I heard this on cassette tape as a kid and I thought it was the coolest thing ever

  • @nerdherdbase
    @nerdherdbase Před 4 lety +1

    Watching this in 2020 is.... Quaint

  • @trippyhare
    @trippyhare Před 3 lety +3

    Came here to forget about COVID.
    Welp, THAT didn't happen.

  • @XzoahX
    @XzoahX Před 3 lety

    That plague opening sounds a lot more realistic now than when this video came out.

  • @hyenaedits3460
    @hyenaedits3460 Před 5 lety +2

    Sounds like a book I have to read! Most dystopias and apocalypses are so dismal; I'm shocked that one of the most influential ones has such a hopeful message!

  • @doom7ish
    @doom7ish Před 4 lety +2

    Immediately realizes the things we are in at the moment.

  • @DeclanMBrennan
    @DeclanMBrennan Před 4 lety

    The illustrations are getting better all the time - each picture succinctly telling an episode of the story like a latter day Bayeux tapestry or Parthenon Frieze.

  • @chingleukdanny
    @chingleukdanny Před 5 lety +2

    Please let one of the following episodes be A Canticle For Leibowitz. So many similar themes treated in insightful ways.

  • @gamenormally9115
    @gamenormally9115 Před 4 lety +1

    me : what is that 3:43 5:18 my brain : it's fallout 3 or 4 the game. Me: oh *sings I don't want to set the world on fire*

  • @Sparkle8205
    @Sparkle8205 Před 5 lety +2

    I need to sleep for a test tomorrow, but I need to watch this.

  • @rawrthedinosawr9659
    @rawrthedinosawr9659 Před 3 lety +1

    oh boy its fun to watch this video in 2021

  • @tommyfox854
    @tommyfox854 Před 4 lety +1

    Considering Humanity in Earth Abides was nearly wiped out via plague and there's currently a plague going on right now, oh boy. {=(

  • @r3kt4u20
    @r3kt4u20 Před 4 lety

    4:57 Wow that slightly hidden history joke like sentence was a *slaps knee* knee slapper.

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts

    Very much appreciated the Frankenstein reference.

  • @vrulg
    @vrulg Před 5 lety

    What the video doesn't capture is that this book is *very* depressing. Like, very depressing even after you consider that it's about an apocalypse.

  • @Giraffinator
    @Giraffinator Před 5 lety

    What an amazing book

  • @thesheepwhisper5068
    @thesheepwhisper5068 Před 5 lety +5

    I wonder if Horizon Zero Dawn took notes from Earth Abides? I'm seeing a lot of parallels between the two now.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Před 5 lety

      Look up Panzer Dragoon. Its a good example of this kind of story.

  • @cinemachild1542
    @cinemachild1542 Před 5 lety +2

    why does the picture in 4:28 remind me so much of the scene in "The Stand" where Mother Abigail tries to protect herself and her food from wolves? (if i remember correctly)

  • @duckgoesquack4514
    @duckgoesquack4514 Před 5 lety

    What a strong message

  • @KeitieKalopsia
    @KeitieKalopsia Před rokem

    This is a surprisingly optimistic post-apocalyptic book!

  • @SgtCandy
    @SgtCandy Před 5 lety +5

    Do 'A Canticle for Leibowitz' please!

    • @davidhueso
      @davidhueso Před 5 lety +3

      Just finish arting that one mate

    • @SgtCandy
      @SgtCandy Před 5 lety

      @@davidhueso awesome, much appreciated!

  • @opentile_minis8659
    @opentile_minis8659 Před 4 lety

    3:41 foooor the brotherhood!!

  • @dariustiapula
    @dariustiapula Před 5 lety +1

    "I don't want to set the world on fire."