NATION 2 Iceland - the extreme nation
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Help this series continue @www.justgiving... The second in a series of films with Lesley Riddoch exploring Scotland's inspiring northern European neighbours and what we can learn.
Despite being a sub-arctic island pulsating with potentially catastrophic volcanoes, Iceland's population (334,000 or Aberdeen and Dundee combined) has managed to become one of the most successful societies on earth. To understand Icelander's attitude to risk and creating a positive from the bleakest situation means understanding the volcanic landscape that has shaped this nation and its fortunes. We look at how Iceland has harnessed the power beneath their feet, created a successful media industry by exploiting its lunar setting, how the land has shaped the island's politics and more. The seismic global crash (and subsequent volcanic explosion) could have brought Iceland to its knees but, in fact, regenerated Iceland - empowering it to become a globally recognised, more sustainable, politically engaged nation with a future that looks brighter than ever. Iceland certainly puts any doubts about Scotland's huge potential in perspective as the UK and Europe's political tectonic plates continue to shift.
Independence, freedom, healthy true nationalism, self-determination and true capitalism, all will give Scotland a great future. Why not?
I love Iceland and the way the Icelanders live and think. This small country has a big spot in my heart (glad to visit iceland again in two months :-) ) Greetings from Austria
Scotland just needs to stop being nervous, bite the bullet, and get on with being an independent nation once again. Ireland is a success. Iceland is a success. Scotland will be a success if you just pull your finger out and do it!
Fantastic video once again. Many thanks to all involved in the making.
Iceland is one of the best countries I've ever been to. I highly recommend to everyone about to travel to think about Iceland as a destination.
This is incredible, this national vision and collective thinking is amazing. An example for any nation and population in the world
Just makes me want to go back as well as help Scotland reach this kind of potential.
Excellent, excellent, excellent. Exactly the kind of thing we should be showing our kids in schools across the country. Forward and positive thinking. We had penned in Iceland for a holiday, it’s a definite now.
Steven Kelly this video is filled with errors so maybe not show it in schools lol
Björk OK, I’m happy to be enlightened...
Iceland teaches countries like Scotland that smaller is better, that change can be achieved easier and faster. If Scotland does become independent everything will be almost the same on day one, however, then we will have the opportunity to change our welfare system, immigration, the economy, public services, foreign affairs, defence etc. We could save billions not following Westminsters way of working, we could radically change our institutions to work for all of the people who live and work here. A couple hundred people in Edinburgh are much easier to watch and manage than a few hundred in London.
The ending is really funny where she blatantly tells the viewer that the Scottish landscape is infinitely more beautiful and more diverse than Iceland's landscape, I think most people would disagree with this statement
Ever been to Scotland?
You think you saw Scotland on a two week driving holiday?. Did you visit Shetland and Orkney islands,the outer and inner Hebrides, the cities of Edinburgh and Glasgow, the great glens, the trossachs and highlands, burns country and the borders or the furthest point north? Did you visit the lochs and hundreds of miles of coast. Lonely planet just voted Scotland the most beautiful place to visit and it gets far more visitors than Iceland.
Your previous 'Buckfast' comments gives your game away, as does your opinion on the Lonely Planet vote.
Fine to prefer Iceland to Scotland as it is only your opinion after all but denigrating firstly Lesley Riddoch & then Scotland as 'a horrible place by comparison' & then disputing the respondents to Lost Planet's poll does show a somewhat biased anti-Scottish attitude.
Again you show your true colours. This time by not only denigrating Lesley Riddoch (again) but also by your description of Scotland's First Minister.
One can only wonder why you watched this film in the first place ?
Nevertheless, you can be assured that Nicola Sturgeon & the SNP, along with other independence supporters such as Lesley Riddoch will strive to better those "horrible places" you have seen in Scotland & might I remind you, most of those came about under Westminster's control.
Thanks for your opinions & accompanying swearwords. I will be sure to spread them far and wide. Sounds a lot like those of the EDF.
Another fascinating and inspiring film. Come on Scotland!
Be bold Scotland! If Iceland can do it, so can you!
"Scotland is really the cradle of vulcanology" Tartan Vulcan's for independence .. Live long and prosper :)X
Another excellent vid, independence is the only answer whilst Westminster Tories implode and the Brexit plans implode we must be ready to vote YES
So Kolfinna Baldursdóttir is a filmmaker who hasn't seen "a single Scottish film". I guess she hasn't heard of Trainspotting?
Greetings from Reykjavík
The best Scottish film is Going home 1983. I drove around Scotland. A beautiful quiet country with awesome people and history. I discovered a ruin by the water with a grave dated 1609. Crazy!
I spent 2 weeks in Iceland last month. I loved this place! Just amazing!
Scotland's considered one of the most beautiful countries in the world. Iceland seems ok.
Scotland should have voted for their independence back in 2014. Look at Norway today the happiest country in the world. Back in 1905 it was the poorest country in Europe. Today it is Moldavia, still an independent nation. Norway was a quasi communist country for many years and didn't see prosperity until 1969. The scots used to be known for their fight for freedom but they chose to be ruled by a queen who lives in another country.
Scotland should join the Nordic nations in being independent. Love from a Norwegian Aussie :)
Steve Prince and now the nation is more divided than ever before
Steve Prince or is it the majority's tyranny?
What tyranny are you talking about naive lad?
your bruv joey, that Norway was this dirt poor country in Europe before oil was discovered is an absolute myth. Not only was Norway not THE poorest, it was in fact the complete opposite. Norway has for a long time been among the richest countries in Europe. I've been so tired to the perpetuation of this myth, that I've written piece here describing the actual reality: medium.com/@Jernfrost/no-norway-was-not-a-poor-country-before-oil-was-discovered-b58dd365e5
Erik Engheim your maps gdp calculations is fucked, you're source is Wikipedia, one of the key reasons to why Norway's economy grew in the middle 19th century is because of the mass emigration to north and South America. Which was because there was nothing else but starvation. Norway had one of the lowest population in Europe and still does which is why the gdp map is fucked.
After WWII Norway was a quasi-soviet state in the sense that there was 5 year production plans, rations and state monopoly on almost everything. Do some real research next time.
More than once this film has quite literally brought tears to my eyes. High time that Scotland took the plunge, and what an opportunity now that UK politics are in chaos. It just comes down to one thing, does Scotland really believe in itself? "A nation once again!" or just England's annex?
Be quiet, fool.
Very interesting, just one thing, when it showed the picture of Vigdís Finnbogadottir it says she was the first female head of state in the world but this is wrong. There have been female heads of state for centuries, what it should say is that she was the first elected female head of state.
The picture shown was not of Vigdis but of Johanna Sigurdardottir, the first lesbian prime minister.
On a side note...that picture is not of Vigdís Finnbogadóttir. The picture shown is of Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, the first female prime minister of Iceland
Interestingly Fingvellir has the same word root as Dingwall, they both come from the old Norse "Thingvöllir" which means meeting place of parliament (or "the thing").
"Reykjavík, literally 'The Big Smoke'"
No, that is not what is means.
Bay of mist/smoke? (Cf. Auld Reekie = Edinburgh --- lol!)
Creek of Smoke
Bay of Smoke in old norse i'm pretty sure, creek is bekk (maybe the same word once?). But aye, really wound me up as well. I'm Scottish, live in Norway and have a huge passion for placenames in the celtic and norse worlds so it's my sylttetøy (jam). I live about 30 minutes from Leirvik (mud bay) here in Norway and people always find it interesting that we have a Lerwick in Scotland.
Here's a big fuck off list of Scottish Placenames that were digitised by the University of Toronto if anyone is interested :)
archive.org/stream/placenamesofscot00johnuoft/placenamesofscot00johnuoft_djvu.txt
Edit: I should add that the science of etymology is basically people going 'yeah that's probably it' so can be quite wrong since we have no way to prove a lot of them
I think the confusion is that in the UK 'creek' means a small tidal inlet, whereas in the USA the word is simply used for a small stream anywhere.
In Scotland '-wick', '-vic', '-uig' etc. usually refer to (small?) bays afaik.
They can call it Reekwick in English
Wonderful documentary! Looking forward to the next one - " Episode- Norway". :-)
If you can find a copy of "Cold Fever", the film referenced here, get it and watch it. Very fine and entertaining piece of work.
Thanks Lesley and thanks for the production , hope you got a hotel 👍
Just to adress
The female MP that is shown at 22:12 is not her excellency, Vigdís Finnbogadóttir. She was never a member of parliment.
She is also not the "first female head of state in the world". You guys have the queen, is she not a head of state?
However, Vigdís Finnbogadóttir is the "first democratically elected female head of state in the world", respectfully.
The MP in the picture is Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, who was the first female PM of iceland aswell as the first openly Homosexual PM in the world aswell as in iceland (or something like that). Other than that she has been a vivid player in icelandic politics in the 20. and 21. century.
There were other errors regarding spelling and other information. Others have pointed that out.
Best regards.
- a proud yet somewhat confused icelander.
re: Vigdís Finnbogadóttir is the "first democratically elected female head of state in the world", respectfully.
what about Golda Meir of Israel?
Or Indira Gandhi of India?
Or Margaret Thatcher of the UK?
@@hhefner9659 my apologies, i should have written "first democratically elected female PRESIDENT in the world".
A slight mistake, i hope it did not couse much discomfort or confusion.
@@hhefner9659then again, my definition of a "head of state" may differ from yours.
I would not call Margaret Thatcher a "head of state", she was a leader of parliment and a prime minister.
Id say her majesty, the queen, were the "head of state". Same as in Iceland. We have a president but also a prime minister.
On the former two cases i am not fully aware of the status, the power which follows or the peoples opinion or perseption of the status/embassy which followed these "leaders" in the examples you've given.
In a country where there are two "leaders" or "heads" opinions may differ. Such as in my case and in other european countries. Nordic countries for example.
example: is Angela Merkel a head of state? No, she is a councilour. Germany has a president.
Or
Example: is Donald Trump a "head of state"? Yes, he is also the president.
But, again, it depends on the government form which differs in seperate countries. What power sits at whoses lap and also the perception.
It differs from person and environment. But i think we understood eachother to begin with.
fantastic production
Norwegian here, I totally support Scottish independence. There is this mindless "efficiency" thinking that suggests that one needs to have ever bigger units to be economical. But that is not how the real world works. If this was true then a country should just have one big company for every sector. That is essentially what the communists did. It doesn't work. In the short term you get economics of scale, but in the long term you lose because you don't have competition. The same goes for countries. If being big was so great then China should have been the one creating the modern world and industrializing first. Yet it was Europe, a patchwork of relatively small states where it all happened. Same with tiny ancient Greece. It was a patchwork of tiny city states and yet they came up with more brilliant ideas than huge empires. One should not underestimate the strength of having a market of ideas.
After independence Norway (or rather autonomy in 1814) had the first years quite some economic hardship. It is hard to build your own nation from scratch. But a great economic boom soon followed. This was replicated after full independence in 1905. I think when people are independent it invigorates the spirit of the people. There is a willingness to experiment, try out new things and chart a new course.
So much of the misery in the world is caused by huge national units of people who don't really get a long that well. I believe the world in general would be better of with a lot more smaller national states where people can chart their own future. It doesn't mean that one turns its back on everybody else. You can still participate in global and regional organizations. The EU is an example of that although I think the EU has started going too far towards a political union. People want to cooperate, but they don't want a political union. When you have spent so much time to become independent you don't want to give all of that up again.
I think the EU would be better if scaled down a bit. Get back national currencies and national control of the economies. And reduce the scale of movement across the border.
Steve Prince Having an opinion and supporting a cause is not fascism. Having an opinion and arguing for it is part of any democratic process. Fascism in contrast is a totalitarian ideology, that deems that a strong leader should make the decisions, rather than the people.
Some great points you make there and I agree. Big countries get too centralized and wealth and power flows to certain areas in those countries, mainly capital cities.
Reykjavík means smoky bay.
Vík means bay, literally Reykjavík is "a bay which is smoking"
The two ladies, Rósa Björk Brynjólfsdóttir (19:50) and Katrín Oddsdóttir (38:27) are not telling the truth.
The Icelandic people didn't „sneak“ or „steal“ their independent in 1944.
...In 1918 Iceland gained sovereignty as a free country under the Danished king. BUT in the agreement said
that after 25 years, 1943, Iceland could declared its independence.
...So the Icelanders waited a year ... and so fourth...
If I didn't live here where I am, I would moved to Island. Fabulous nature, wonderful people, perfect place!
I know how things work, thanks. And I'm perfectly happy here where I am at the moment. As someone who has visited Island, I just stated that I like the country and could see my self living there. Unlike some country in africa that I visited and I would never return there.
I am Icelandic, but also 1/4 Scottish. Miss you grandma
Excellent. This programme is inspirational. Scotland can.
Super interesting!
I love Iceland's national anthem. Easily found on CZcams.
I wish i could find dreamland in my country.. great info.
I'm surprised Kolfinna has never seen a film made in Scotland - Outlander, albeit a TV series, has been on 'small screens' worldwide since 2014 and is almost entirely filmed in Scotland. The Scottish landscapes are considered to play a starring role in the series and this has been credited with a significant contribution to the 17% rise in tourism in Scotland last year, aka "the Outlander effect".
I think Kolfinna did not mean "a movie filmed in Scotland", rather a genuine Scottish film, made by Scots with Scottish actors, located in Scotland and, most important, about something that would, could or actually did happen in Scotland.
at 22:10 it is showing a picture of Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, the first female prime minister of Iceland.
Vigdís Finnbogadóttir is the first female president of Iceland.
Does anyone else watch the videos cos of the cinematography
I gotta make a visit to the Ice
21:41 "[...] the Celtic Islands [...]"
Im from iceland🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸🇮🇸
I see these videos and I feel inspired to help Scotland. Haha
Prometheus was also filmed on Skye, at the Trotternish peninsula, where other blockbuster films have been filmed,, but I agree with some comments, Scotland is beautiful,but is it any more beautiful than Iceland, I dont know but each has their own identities that make them unique, I havent been there, but I would love to visit the north of the island where my gt gt grand parents came from, my gt grandfather married my Norwegian Gt Grandmother, one day maybe soon
22:15 Thats is not Vigdís Finnbogadóttir, thats Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir the first female prime minister.
Th evolution of Norway is a pretty example of the usefulness of peaceful negations. The nation did cast its own destiny in peace making its own citizen fall in love with the country, enjoying life in the country. The opposite in many countries did cast very destructive destiny associated with very low-quality life, humiliation, and mass destruction in many cases. Many other countries teach, and urge citizens to go to, and for, war with other countries to win a negotiation and/or natural resources. They call it "Victory." The evidence mounted up over millions of years shows that people shape their own Destiney when they elect a government that citizen do not even know one single person of them. The support to tyranny government, hailing for war, killing each other to win a dominance is prized with high rank "National Medals." It is very much obvious that people cast their own Destiney, sadly to their own destruction. When does that time come when peace, understanding, feeling the beauty of life become part of national curriculum that we teach to our students? Nowadays, students are taught how to advance in technology, producing advanced weapons...other instruments to kill each other. This is what they called "High Quality Education'" and "Technological advances." Every nation must get back to the definition of "Beauty" to have what remains in life goes in peace, harmony, and the enjoyment of very short life.
very good
Phantom Power - Hope you read my reply to Steve Prince below.
Great job. Even better than Eorpa.
The woman depicted here: czcams.com/video/2fyI1V9D5Jw/video.html is NOT Vigdís Finnbogadóttir who was the first female president in the world, elected democratically. This is the first openly lesbian prime minister in the world, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir.
How long have they been using deep digging to warm their houses?
1930 Reykjavík Geo was founded
Reykur (smoke) , Vik (bay). Reykjavik therefore means “smokey bay” or “bay of smoke”. - Google of course.
Yes, it's said that when they first sailed into Reykjavík it was shrouded on a thick fog that resembled smoke. Thus, Smokey Bay.
17:46
Þingvellir, not FING.
22:09 That's not Vigdís. That's Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, the first openly gay prime minister of the world
It sounds all very nice and a dream is as valuable as the physical reality itself but this utopia will be but a dream so long as disparity rules, which we know Scotland is plagued by in its class society. Differentials create conflict and ill health we know this and it is something that will take far longer to alter than a new constitution enshrining independence.
We have saying hier in Iceland...pick or flood it )
Its funny how they all communicate in the English language in these docs
Thank goodness. I don't want to read subtitles.
Scottland must be independent!!!!
'Protestant work ethic' - What a load of absolute nonsense. Ruined the video.
I noticed that bit of subtle bigotry too.
Is this a series about potential conquests for Scotland upon independence?
Þingvellir is not in the center of icland
Þingvellir not fingvellir
Kolbruuun!
vad i helvete?
Im pretty sure that other older nations where with the first parliment before Iceland.
Dude one is on about Pangaea, not sure we can blame ourselves for that breakaway.
Dude two is saying protestant Lutheranism works well for Iceland, that great. I can't really tell any different between what he described and communism. Nothing wrong with that.
It is by no means a 'lying propaganda'.
Iceland has a MUCH better football team than Scotland, of course. Can't blame Westminster for that... ;-)
Rejecting pure capitalism is something that is rarely brought up.
lava land
Reykjavik means Smoky creek.
Arnhildur Valgarðsdóttir Smokey bay, creek means lækur
yea, let's pretend it wasn't an occupation by the British. my people deserve better.
"Protestant work ethic!" Such nonsense. I was enjoying this video up until that sectarian garbage!
I love beautiful Iceland. I I wish to visit there. if any one can help me please. thanks
Maximus Sieger , need some one sponsored from Iceland
thanks friend
my friend, may I know about one week to live in beautiful Iceland. how much totals cost please?? thanks
Iceland is so small and irrelevant that they have to make up stories about their volcanoes having effects on the French Revolution, or in china india etc... 😂😂
Such a shame they go and spoil it all by killing endangered blue whales. I would plan a visit otherwise.
Harrison it's their culture, are you telling me native Americans shouldn't be able to hunt endeared wolves or bears which they've been doing for thousands of years or Indigenous Australians not be able to hunt wombat? Look at everything from perspective, just because something does not meet your standard of being culturally acceptable does not mean it's not morally bad.
Population of about " 100,000 to roughly 119,000" and hunt 191 animals, I would say you are tainted by emotions when you watched free willy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_whale
Are they endangered or aren't they?
You can estimate yourself (without other opinion) population of 100-120k and Iceland hunt 191 out of that. We respect all resourches in the nature (animal or in land) we want to be sustainable as much as possible on one of that is hunting whale, but not so much that it endangers the specie.
I'm guessing whales become endangered because nations like Iceland keep killing them. I'm not just holding Iceland responsible, the UK used to do it too but Iceland are one of the few nations to still kill whales.
As a vegan you're never going to win me round. I think I'll align myself with the 25 countries that protested to the Icelandic govt in 2006, Greenpeace and the International Whaling Commission. Btw, news just today, this whale was a rare hybrid and its meat cannot be sold to Japan or anywhere else because of this. Seemingly, since 1983, only five such whales have been recorded off Iceland - four have been killed by whalers!
Oh and to Kristjan, I've never seen Free Willy? Any good?
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he didnt say god bless iceland
Then what did he say?
Dunsapie he just said the former about standing the storm or something
Sævar Þórðarson ,thank you.
He ended the reding by saying "god bless Iceland" one of the most famous sentences in Icelandic history, thanks to that :D